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Ebay have failed to remove undeserved negatives

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Terrance Davis

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Apr 30, 2013, 6:49:21 AM4/30/13
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I recently had an ebay member buy 2 separate items off of me, a common bun
head halfpence and a close to Uncirculated 1944 Canada Victory 5 cents,
both at opening bid of 99p. When it came to sending an invoice, as a nice
gesture I gave the buyer a discounted and combined p&p charge (should have
been �1.99 p&p individually) of �3.00, saving them �0.98 (actual parcel cost
�2.75). I have since got 2 negative feedback replies from the buyer moaning
that they paid 2 charges of postage and that I sent both items in one bag.
I sent a message to the buyer explaining that they got given one invoice to
pay for a combined p&p charge, therefore I had actually saved them money?.
Not sure if the buyer is thick but the response I got wasn't educated???
I thought if I contacted ebay and gave them the details, buyer's ID,
transaction numbers etc...they would investigate, see that I haven't ripped
the buyer with the p&p charge and would remove the unfair feedback. As per
usual, ebay have replied and taken the buyer's side and will not remove the
feedback, also they haven't given a reason as to why they won't remove it,
so now I have a whole year with 2 negative feedbacks that are unwarranted
and unfair? What is a seller meant to do???

PeterD

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Apr 30, 2013, 8:04:02 AM4/30/13
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Don't worry, Frank will be along any minute now to tell you what to do.

And if Frank can't do it, I'm sure someone from the ANA will respond.

Until you get their authoritative answer, you should, under no
circumstances sell anything on eBay as you are likely to be receiving
more negs for being dumb...

--
I'm never going to grow up.

Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke

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Apr 30, 2013, 9:00:49 AM4/30/13
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Terrance Davis wrote:
> I recently had an ebay member buy 2 separate items off of me...

> ...I have since
> got 2 negative feedback replies from the buyer...

> ... now I have a whole year with 2
> negative feedbacks that are unwarranted and unfair? What is a seller
> meant to do???


I'll take care of it for you. I can hack into the eBay
system and remove your feedback. I'll need your username.
Please post your username and the transaction number
in question. Then give me a couple of days. You should
see changes pretty soon after that.


Lumpy

ANA President
Member International Registry of Auctioneers
Certified Bell and Howell Projectionist

www.LumpyMusic.com




BrotherBart

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Apr 30, 2013, 1:26:41 PM4/30/13
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On 4/30/2013 6:49 AM, Terrance Davis wrote:
> buyer is thick but the response I got wasn't educated???
> I thought if I contacted ebay and gave them the details, buyer's ID,
> transaction numbers etc...they would investigate, see that I haven't
> ripped the buyer with the p&p charge and would remove the unfair
> feedback. As per usual, ebay have replied and taken the buyer's side and
> will not remove the feedback, also they haven't given a reason as to why
> they won't remove it, so now I have a whole year with 2 negative
> feedbacks that are unwarranted and unfair? What is a seller meant to do???

Most sellers just post a reply on the feedback threatening physical harm
to the ignorant buyer and that forces eBay to remove the negative feedback.

R. Totale

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Apr 30, 2013, 1:36:46 PM4/30/13
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All your undeserved negatives are belong to us.

googler

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Apr 30, 2013, 2:35:57 PM4/30/13
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My apologies for the responses you've received here. This is,
unfortunately, a marginally useful forum for seeking assistance, as we
have some members who haven't yet grown up.

Good question, though. Sad to say, eBay does not care. It is unlikely
they will even read your communications with them. They do have a
number of reasons detailed in their agreement for removing feedback,
and your case isn't even close.

Buyers being able to hurt sellers with poor feedback is a fact of life
on eBay, and something you have to accept with a grain of salt. IMHO,
you will be fine in the long run; don't let one jerk have any control
over your life (and I include some of our posters!).

You won't get it changed. eBay does not care, and fairness is
certainly not on their list of corporate objectives. Automated
transactions and answers to your inquiries are their norm.

In the end, most everything is far more important than feedback on an
impersonal online selling site. Don't let your life be defined by
something as trivial as this. Thanks for coming to ask, and again
apologies for, and you should ignore, our resident dummy.

Jim Rojas

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Apr 30, 2013, 3:04:12 PM4/30/13
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Ebay is all about fees, plain and simple. At one time, you could pay $25
to get ANY undesirable feedback removed through Squaretrade. Remember
who you are dealing with here. Ebay offers warranty replacement for
items that you sell to your buyer. They offer this directly to the
buyer. This is a form of fraud. But this is ebay, they do no wrong...

If the buyer files a warranty claim with ebay, then all of the sudden
ebay is looking for the original retail receipt to process your claim,
which they clearly know usually does not exist. Again, this is fraud.

Jim Rojas
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d...@doo.xer

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Apr 30, 2013, 3:52:29 PM4/30/13
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Buyers hurt sellers, WTF? Hey Asshole, it is the scams you sellers
used some years back against the buyer, which finally forced ebay to
do something about scam sellers. Retaliatory FB, remember that
asshole. On amazon, sellers can't leave FB for the buyer, no matter
what.

Frank Provasek

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Apr 30, 2013, 6:06:53 PM4/30/13
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We lost our 20% discount due to a buyer who left positive feedback,
but left a "1" DSR for shipping time, even though he paid us March 25,
item was shipped
March 26 and signed for by the buyer March 28. Ebay would NOT remove
it.

Je�us

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Apr 30, 2013, 8:24:22 PM4/30/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 05:49:21 -0500, "Terrance Davis"
<tda...@xilo.co.uk> wrote:

> As per usual, ebay have replied and taken the buyer's side

That's complete bullshit.

>and will not remove the
>feedback, also they haven't given a reason as to why they won't remove it,
>so now I have a whole year with 2 negative feedbacks that are unwarranted
>and unfair? What is a seller meant to do???

Kill yourself?

Alternatively, you could give your potential buyers *some* credit and
let them read between the lines when checking your feedback.
But that would be too sensible for you, right?

Je�us

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Apr 30, 2013, 8:26:14 PM4/30/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:35:57 -0700 (PDT), googler
<googler...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>My apologies for the responses you've received here. This is,
>unfortunately, a marginally useful forum for seeking assistance, as we
>have some members who haven't yet grown up.

Warranted in this instance.

Chris S.

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May 1, 2013, 8:25:40 AM5/1/13
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"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message
news:08o0o89ifdrs2b56c...@4ax.com...
Completely..... (and the birds are circling...)

Chris

R. Totale

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May 1, 2013, 10:08:13 AM5/1/13
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:04:12 -0400, Jim Rojas <jro...@tech-man.com>
wrote:

>If the buyer files a warranty claim with ebay, then all of the sudden
>ebay is looking for the original retail receipt to process your claim,
>which they clearly know usually does not exist. Again, this is fraud.

I guarantee this will never happen.

Frank Galikanokus

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May 1, 2013, 3:19:26 PM5/1/13
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Most buyers are not going to dig deep enough to "read between the lines" unless they have
a tool like this

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs

So your reply isn't sensible.

JAM

Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke

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May 1, 2013, 5:40:42 PM5/1/13
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Frank Galikanokus wrote:

> So your reply isn't sensible.


We only allow sensible replies here.

We have found that opinions from usenet groups
are generally second only to grandparents
for objectivity.


Lumpy

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Sure. Which country would you like?

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Je�us

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May 1, 2013, 7:19:57 PM5/1/13
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My reply isn't sensible because the average person is a moron?

Jim Rojas

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May 1, 2013, 9:24:51 PM5/1/13
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He meant that the average ebayer is a moron... ;)

Jim Rojas

BrotherBart

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May 1, 2013, 11:03:29 PM5/1/13
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On 4/30/2013 3:52 PM, d...@doo.xer wrote:
> Buyers hurt sellers, WTF? Hey Asshole, it is the scams you sellers
> used some years back against the buyer, which finally forced ebay to
> do something about scam sellers.

Didn't stop me. I still scam you fools.


Frank Galikanokus

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May 3, 2013, 1:00:25 PM5/3/13
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Umm... maybe yes, maybe no.

What do you think?

JAM

Michael Benveniste

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May 3, 2013, 10:09:58 PM5/3/13
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On 4/30/2013 8:24 PM, Jeßus wrote:

> Alternatively, you could give your potential buyers *some* credit and
> let them read between the lines when checking your feedback.
> But that would be too sensible for you, right?

Why are you bothering to respond to a "drive-by" from a first time
poster using aioe.org? There's been an established pattern of this
type of anonymous "eBay is evil" post crossposted to rcc and amoe
going back for well over 5 years.

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stranger than truth. -- Annie Leibovitz

PeterD

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May 4, 2013, 7:47:18 AM5/4/13
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On 5/3/2013 1:00 PM, Frank Galikanokus wrote:
>> My reply isn't sensible because the average person is a moron?
> Umm... maybe yes, maybe no.
>
> What do you think?
>
> JAM

Yep, you're right at the 'average' point, that's clear!

Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke

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May 4, 2013, 6:10:08 PM5/4/13
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Michael Benveniste wrote:


> ...There's been an established pattern of this
> type of anonymous "eBay is evil" post crossposted to rcc and amoe
> going back for well over 5 years.

I was telling Franco the pool boy just yesterday -
"That pattern is definitely established. It's
an established pattern. Now lift more of
those chlorene jugs. Oh Franco."


Lumpy

You were the "OPERATION" game voice?
Yes. Take out wrenched ankle.

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Je�us

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May 5, 2013, 4:26:47 PM5/5/13
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On Fri, 03 May 2013 22:09:58 -0400, Michael Benveniste
<m...@murkyether.com> wrote:

>On 4/30/2013 8:24 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
>> Alternatively, you could give your potential buyers *some* credit and
>> let them read between the lines when checking your feedback.
>> But that would be too sensible for you, right?
>
>Why are you bothering to respond to a "drive-by" from a first time
>poster using aioe.org? There's been an established pattern of this
>type of anonymous "eBay is evil" post crossposted to rcc and amoe
>going back for well over 5 years.

Clearly we have different ideas of what this newsgroup is in 2013...
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