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George

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Aug 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/28/00
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I just got the following e-mail from eBay. I immediately reviewed the eBay
user agreement and it mentions nothing about posting to newsgroups. I did
not say anything inflammatory, obscene, etc. in my post. It said "check
this out" then had the address of the auction.

Everyday I see auctions posted on newsgroups. Are they allowed or aren't
they? Can anyone point me to the appropriate paragraph in the user
agreement which explains this rule? Should I report others doing the same
thing?

George

***********************
Your account on eBay has been reported for sending SPAM about your eBay
auctions to Usenet/Newsgroups. eBay cannot judge or evaluate the Usenet
post, but we have received a complaint about your posting. We would like to
remind you that unsolicited commercial postings are considered SPAM and that
further violation may result in action taken by eBay against your account.

Your cooperation is most appreciated.
***********************

Mr. Mike

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Aug 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/28/00
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:16:55 GMT, "George" <gmos...@midsouth.rr.com> wrote:

>Everyday I see auctions posted on newsgroups. Are they allowed or aren't
>they?

Sure they are ... just not THIS ONE! Any group with the word "marketplace" in it
is fair game ... otherwise you post at your peril, unless you are an "old-timer"
in that particular group or the group doesn't care.

In for a penny

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Aug 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/28/00
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You really need to know what the content of the forum is before you
post anything to it.

If it is a discussion group, you are generally advised not to post ads
to it. This alt.marketing.online.ebay forum is a discussion group and,
unfortunately, we get a lot of people posting here because they assume
it is a place to post ads for eBay auctions or eBay related products.
It isn't.

All you have to do is, before starting to post to a forum, have a read
of the content first. It should become immediately obvious as to
whether ads are welcome or not. That is a good rule for any activity in
any forum - always sit back and read for a while to get a feel for the
place before jumping in.

Peter

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In article <bDtq5.24507$SC6....@typhoon.midsouth.rr.com>,


"George" <gmos...@midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
> I just got the following e-mail from eBay. I immediately reviewed
the eBay
> user agreement and it mentions nothing about posting to newsgroups.
I did
> not say anything inflammatory, obscene, etc. in my post. It said
"check
> this out" then had the address of the auction.
>

> Everyday I see auctions posted on newsgroups. Are they allowed or
aren't

> they? Can anyone point me to the appropriate paragraph in the user
> agreement which explains this rule? Should I report others doing the
same
> thing?
>
> George
>
> ***********************
> Your account on eBay has been reported for sending SPAM about your
eBay
> auctions to Usenet/Newsgroups. eBay cannot judge or evaluate the
Usenet
> post, but we have received a complaint about your posting. We would
like to
> remind you that unsolicited commercial postings are considered SPAM
and that
> further violation may result in action taken by eBay against your
account.
>
> Your cooperation is most appreciated.
> ***********************
>
>


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goatlike (Mark S')

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Aug 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/28/00
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I think that really depends on what NG you posted to... Peeps are real sick
of advertising in the NG's, and will make you pay the price. It's up to you
to make sure yer posting in the right place.

mark

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Richard Ward

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Aug 28, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/28/00
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I don't know if eBay has a specific rule or not, but if you are posting
in groups that don't allow advertisements, or for the few groups that do
allow ads, posting ads that aren't considered on-topic, you're lucky
whoever complained chose to complain to eBay, not your ISP, or you might
well be trying to find a new ISP this morning.

The number of groups that allow advertisements is a very small
percentage of usenet as a whole. Most groups that do allow ads, only
allow them on a limited basis, in a very narrow product category. The
fact that you may have seen ads posted in a particular group does not
mean the group allows ads. You see advertisements posted here, and this
group doesn't allow ads.

The simple facts of life are that for most types of merchandise, posting
eBay teasers, even in appropriate groups, is not something that
generates any new business, it just wastes time. For most of the groups
that allow commercial posts, the only traffic they get is people placing
ads. No one actually reads them except for spam-bots looking for email
addresses.

eBay used to tacitly promote people advertising to "appropriate
newsgroups", with a warning that the postings should only be made to
groups that allow advertisements. I don't know if that wording is still
on their site, because I can't remember where I saw it. eBay has taken
an enormous public relations black eye among usenet users angry at eBay
users who flood newsgroups with spam. Perhaps eBay has decided to do
something about it.

If you still want to post ads to newsgroups, make sure that each and
every group you post to allows ads, and make sure that each and every
post you make is considered on-topic for the group you are posting to.
Don't try and post retired beanie babies to antique for-sale or
marketplace groups. You have been reported once, which means you have
someone upset with you enough to complain. If you do it again, you
might end up in real trouble.

Richard Ward

Peter T. Davis

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Aug 28, 2000, 10:51:19 PM8/28/00
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#1 Don't SPAM newsgroups. Looks like someone thinks you did.
#2 If you don't know the newsgroup, don't post about your auctions.
#3 Read the FAQ. jeez, how many times have I written that!!!!
#4 After you read the FAQ and have become accustomed to the
peculiarities of the group you will know if it is accepted to post about
your auctions, and if so how should you go about doing it.
#5 If you disregard any of the above, don't be surprised when you
are accused of being a "scum sucking SPAM artist" 8-)
Peter

"George" <gmos...@midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message news:bDtq5.24507

Caroball

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Aug 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/29/00
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>>
>> Everyday I see auctions posted on newsgroups. Are they allowed or aren't
>> they? Can anyone point me to the appropriate paragraph in the user
>> agreement which explains this rule? Should I report others doing the same

Some newsgroups are set up for buyers and sellers. Some are discussion groups.

People will always post "for sale" to discussion groups. Easy answer, don't
read or answer them-they will go away if they get no results.

Pardon me, I got to go answer this post that is telling me I can make $10,000 a
month and work 4 hours a week. Maybe I will work a full 40 hours and make
$100,000.

John

Lillian

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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>Everyday I see auctions posted on newsgroups. Are they allowed or aren't
>they? Can anyone point me to the appropriate paragraph in the user
>agreement which explains this rule?

Each newsgroup has its own rules or charters. Some newsgroups do not want ads,
some restrict numbers of ads they want you to post, and there are some where
you can post your ads away freely.

When in doubt, look for or ask to be pointed to a FAQ and/or charter for that
newsgroup.

But you can always have a link to your Ebay About Me page in your newsgroup
signature line. Just do not post randomly to get that sig line ad out there!

Lillian

j...@reserve.met

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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Good Morning George,

Ebay seems to be more concerned about you posting an ad in a newsgroup. When
they should be digging into the active fraud going on and the posting illegal
items on there auction sties. "Ebay speak with forked tongue" It's ALL about
money.

If you listen to all the advise that was posted per your comment George, one
would think we're in a Communistic country.
Don't do this and don't do that - What the hell happened to "OUR FREEDOMS"
people. And it frankly doesn't matter how long a person has been lurking here
or there, one day or five years. They are no better the next person. I don't
care if they flame me for my opinions, it just doesn't matter. This is still
the "United States of "FREE" America". Yes I know that usenet is world wide.
Go for it George!!!!!!!!!!!

George wrote:

> I just got the following e-mail from eBay. I immediately reviewed the eBay
> user agreement and it mentions nothing about posting to newsgroups. I did
> not say anything inflammatory, obscene, etc. in my post. It said "check
> this out" then had the address of the auction.
>

> Everyday I see auctions posted on newsgroups. Are they allowed or aren't
> they? Can anyone point me to the appropriate paragraph in the user

> agreement which explains this rule? Should I report others doing the same

Richard Ward

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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Following your advice, he will end up with his account cancelled,
according to the email he got from eBay. You are perfectly correct, we
don't live in a communist country, so eBay is perfectly free to set
whatever rules it likes on it's commercial site, within the bounds of
the law. In a communist or socialist country, eBay wouldn't have those
rights. If you do not want to do business under those rules, you are
free to go to another online auction. In a communist or socialist
country, you wouldn't have those rights.

If you want to put your own business relationships with your ISP and
eBay at risk, feel free. Just don't be surprised when people feel it is
foolish advice to give someone else who may actually want to keep their
internet service and their eBay account. After all, you have nothing at
risk making the suggestion, he would have a great deal at risk following
it.

Richard Ward

Sweetdreams

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Aug 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/30/00
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<j...@reserve.met> wrote in message news:39ACFD02...@reserve.met...

> Good Morning George,
>
> Ebay seems to be more concerned about you posting an ad in a newsgroup.
When
> they should be digging into the active fraud going on and the posting
illegal
> items on there auction sties. "Ebay speak with forked tongue" It's ALL
about
> money.
>
> If you listen to all the advise that was posted per your comment George,
one
> would think we're in a Communistic country.
> Don't do this and don't do that - What the hell happened to "OUR FREEDOMS"
> people. And it frankly doesn't matter how long a person has been lurking
here
> or there, one day or five years. They are no better the next person. I
don't
> care if they flame me for my opinions, it just doesn't matter. This is
still
> the "United States of "FREE" America". Yes I know that usenet is world
wide.
> Go for it George!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don't post ads. I just got home from work, I enjoy reading this group
and I just downloaded it and there are 276 messages to read since I read it
last night. If people start spamming the group with ads then there will be
thousands of posts to read instead of worth while ones.
Kimberly


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