The Cell : Surrealism Meets Hollywood
J_M
news:3a2fb571...@news.remarq.com...
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> I have to see it again, but with a joint this time...
>
> I wonder if I could score from the two kids that go past my place
> dressed completely in black...
If they didn't I'm sure they would know where to get some ;-)
J_M
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> I just felt a bit stupid saying, slowly, "Hey man..."
Yea, know what you mean. It would be awkward and there's a good chance
they'd be afraid of you even.
>
> Oh well, I see a new run of "Jesse" is scheduled to start tonight.
> Maybe I'll watch that first.
>
> Then nothing I do will seem stupid.
Your kidding! What an awful show that was. Your right, it don't get much
more stupid than that.
--Jamie
paramucho
I went to see this last night. A pity I didn't have anything to
smoke...
It's an interesting attempt to take surrealism and produce a standard
Hollywood vehicle. It tries very hard to get into threatening mindgame
territory, and while I think it fails on that, the effort was
certainly worthwhile for all the great graphics which depict the mind
of our madman.
Despite it's screenplay weaknesses and the lack of real characters, I
loved it and give it a four out of five.
For Australians: I kept thinking of the SBS station ID "The World Is
An Amazing Place"... Very Salvatore Dali.
I have to see it again, but with a joint this time...
I wonder if I could score from the two kids that go past my place
dressed completely in black...
Ian
paramucho
>"paramucho" <i...@beathoven.com> wrote in message
>news:3a2fb571...@news.remarq.com...
>>
>> I have to see it again, but with a joint this time...
>>
>> I wonder if I could score from the two kids that go past my place
>> dressed completely in black...
>
>If they didn't I'm sure they would know where to get some ;-)
That was my feeling too.
I just felt a bit stupid saying, slowly, "Hey man..."
Oh well, I see a new run of "Jesse" is scheduled to start tonight.
Maybe I'll watch that first.
Then nothing I do will seem stupid.
Ian
paramucho
>"paramucho" <i...@beathoven.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 22:06:08 -0800, "J_M" <J...@sprynet.com> wrote:
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>> >"paramucho" <i...@beathoven.com> wrote in message
>> >news:3a2fb571...@news.remarq.com...
>> >>
>> >> I have to see it again, but with a joint this time...
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if I could score from the two kids that go past my place
>> >> dressed completely in black...
>> >
>> >If they didn't I'm sure they would know where to get some ;-)
>>
>> That was my feeling too.
>>
>> I just felt a bit stupid saying, slowly, "Hey man..."
>
>Yea, know what you mean. It would be awkward and there's a good chance
>they'd be afraid of you even.
>
>>
>> Oh well, I see a new run of "Jesse" is scheduled to start tonight.
>> Maybe I'll watch that first.
>>
>> Then nothing I do will seem stupid.
>
>Your kidding! What an awful show that was. Your right, it don't get much
>more stupid than that.
The same station advertised the new season as a double whammy. The
other program is ultimately even dumber.
Suddenly Susan.
She should stick to playing tennis.
Ian
eve plumb
<3a2fb571...@news.remarq.com>, i...@beathoven.com stated:
Visually it was kind of fun, and I read where the director was influenced by the
look of the decaying quality of the work of Chris Cunningham, David Lynch, the
Brothers Quay and Joel Peter Witkin, among others. Unfortunately, the "maniac
imprisoning a young woman" thing has been done so to death (Seven, Silence of
the Lambs, Manhunter, Texas Chainsaw Massacre II, etc. etc.) that it is very
difficult to take this film seriously since the plot seems to be *such* an
afterthought. But why not enjoy it purely for its stylistic virtues? I did.
interstate5
paramucho
wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 06:02:43 GMT, in article
><3a2fb571...@news.remarq.com>, i...@beathoven.com stated:
>>
>>
>Visually it was kind of fun, and I read where the director was influenced by the
>look of the decaying quality of the work of Chris Cunningham, David Lynch, the
>Brothers Quay and Joel Peter Witkin, among others. Unfortunately, the "maniac
>imprisoning a young woman" thing has been done so to death (Seven, Silence of
>the Lambs, Manhunter, Texas Chainsaw Massacre II, etc. etc.) that it is very
>difficult to take this film seriously since the plot seems to be *such* an
>afterthought. But why not enjoy it purely for its stylistic virtues? I did.
It was impossible for me to take the plot seriously. However, I guess
it would have been impossible for them to *sell* the film in hollywood
without such a plot. It was all about the images. I hope it encourages
them to do more of this stuff -- it needs the kind of budget that
these movies get.
The other thing about the images was how fleeting they were at time.
There is one segment where our heroine walks a corridor that stores
living images of all the "dolls" he has created. Each such figure
would have taken considerable work, but they're seen for less than a
couple of seconds each. This willingness to blast the senses was
impressive.
What I forgot to say was how great the middle eastern music was in
places. It was the first time that I really appreciated how
overpowering massed "flute" music could be. Great music at the end
too.
Ian
eve plumb
i...@beathoven.com stated:
>
>
>What I forgot to say was how great the middle eastern music was in
>places. It was the first time that I really appreciated how
>overpowering massed "flute" music could be. Great music at the end
>too.
>
>
>Ian
>
>
There has been an explosion of Middle and Near Eastern (southern slavic, Arab,
Persian, northern African, and some Northern Indian flavors) music being
exploited in films.
I think I can pinpoint the exact beginning of this phenomenon: Peter Gabriel's
stunning score for "Last Temptation of Christ." I think from a soundtrack point
of view it is one of the most influential films ever made.
interstate5
eve plumb
<3a2f0743...@news.remarq.com>, i...@beathoven.com stated:
>
>On 27 Nov 2000 15:54:51 -0800, eve plumb <eve_m...@newsguy.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 23:16:59 GMT, in article <3a29ea1e...@news.remarq.com>,
>>i...@beathoven.com stated:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>What I forgot to say was how great the middle eastern music was in
>>>places. It was the first time that I really appreciated how
>>>overpowering massed "flute" music could be. Great music at the end
>>>too.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ian
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>There has been an explosion of Middle and Near Eastern (southern slavic, Arab,
>>Persian, northern African, and some Northern Indian flavors) music being
>>exploited in films.
>
>
>
>>I think I can pinpoint the exact beginning of this phenomenon: Peter Gabriel's
>>stunning score for "Last Temptation of Christ." I think from a soundtrack point
>>of view it is one of the most influential films ever made.
>
>
>
>Ian
>
IN a much more attenuated way, yes. George did a lot to open people's ears to
nonwestern sounds. But when you hear Gabriel's score (and also the indigenous
music that he used) it is amazing how blatantly people have borrowed the exact
feeling of his score for subsequent films. On balance the LTOC soundtrack was a
uniquely influential event, with all due respect to Wonderwall.
interstate5
paramucho
Horatio Hornblower
> "Dead Man Walking" comes to mind.
ah, dont talk to me about rebatikas moreh!
eise vlakas!
paramucho
wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 01:16:31 GMT, in article
><3a2f0743...@news.remarq.com>, i...@beathoven.com stated:
>>
>IN a much more attenuated way, yes. George did a lot to open people's ears to
>nonwestern sounds. But when you hear Gabriel's score (and also the indigenous
>music that he used) it is amazing how blatantly people have borrowed the exact
>feeling of his score for subsequent films. On balance the LTOC soundtrack was a
>uniquely influential event, with all due respect to Wonderwall.
I'll have to check it out. I just became a card-carrying video club
member...
Yes, I think George opened the doors, without necessarily going in
very far. It would have been interesting to see what Brian Jones would
have done had he lived. He had already started producing ethnic music
in 1968...
The movie sounds interesting too...
Ian