Jpv 1043
The arranger of Langham creeks show IS mark Higginbotham....
Did you perform in finals??
Did you perform period??
Unless you were wearing a uniform and out there giving your 100% effort I
suggest you shut your pie hole and stop disrespect all of these programs who on
any given day could have won the contest. Are you a band director?? Most
likely not..so until you have your own program and you can design your own show
I would get off these newsgroups and work on getting a degree so you have the
right to slam these excellent schools for how hard they work on putting a
program together...
In this previous post of yours you have made your self sound extrememly
Ignorant to what you saw. It sounds like you didnt appreciate anything that
was done on that field and all you did was worry about ticks and volume....
Do the group a favor and educate yourself before you go to another competition
otherwise you are just a wasted ticket that was sold.......
ClintF98 wrote:
> Are you a student or what? I don't want to be harsh, but some of your comments
> sound plain stupid to me.
If he was a student, do you think he'd be able to remember back to 1986??? (he
talked about westfield pushing the envelope)
Bugleboy96 <bugle...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Actually...It was MY idea to use some of YOUR
quotes, which I personally find very inspiring.
For example, this from your 1986 speech to the
Competitive Evangelists of America (COEA):
"Thou shalt not bear false Hair!" Or this one to
the International Brotherhood of Cake, Donut,
and Scone Bakers:
"Flesh Colored Underwear? Not in My Lecture!
Get out NOWWWWW!" Or, finally, this one to the
Mothers against Yams, Alabama Guild: "The
Person on the front row who keeps making those
fart noises: stop now or I shall be forced to
respond with a destructive blast of my own!"
While I find quotes these and many more to be a
true reflection of your genius, my cohorts would
not go along with me and insisted on having our
spoiled brat quote Maring Luther King, John
Kennedy, or Abraham Lincoln.
What can I say? They know NOTHING about this
activity!!!!!
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Before you buy.
Ok, first of all, I'm trying to think of a good analogy to use in this
situation but i'll just spell it out. He said this was the best regional he
saw, obviously everyone was good. But the better you are, the more details
there is to pick apart. If everyone was so awful, he would have probably
been saying things like "try to stay in step next time" and stupid stuff like
that. Instead he was critizing over blowing, balancing, and more
sophisticated things like that. I'm sure he appreciated all the shows, or he
wouldnt have come or bothered to write about them. Like some bands are very
critical about horn angles, moving the slightest bit at attention, things
like that while others are trying to figure out what attention actually is
and how you hold your horn. These were minor details that will only make you
even better, think if you made those better the critism will be all the more
detailed. A few things to think about...
> If you don't agree, then you please be the first to shut up and
>give a review of your own. Maybe in your review you'll take the moronic band
>parent approach and say things like "nice colors" or "oooohh.....loud." It's
>high school marching band, not the end of the world. Suck it up.
>
LOL Well I stand corrected..........some out there does sound more ignorant
that Jpv.
Correct it was HIS review so why did you just post on it??
"Moronic band parent approach??" Hardly.....I am a graduate of one of the top
10 bands there that night....I march drum corps....and currently responsible
for 4 middle school trumpet studios in my part of texas....
Trust me..there were things I disagreed with and I have posted a review of my
own stating so, but your friend Jpv went about it the wrong way....that is why
he makes him self sound very low level...but i can understand your
comments...Its very nice of you to act like his big brother and take care of
his mistakes and posts things in his defense...KUDOS to you my friend..
One day when you have your own program, please invite me to a show, I would
like to see it so I can review it and post it as well. Take care Mr. Cheese.
>What can I say? They know NOTHING about this
>activity!!!!!
what does this mean??
Who doesnt know anything about what activity?
]
Would you care to elaborate?
>But the better you are, the more details
>there is to pick apart.
I agree, but his approach was totally wrong....
by saying.."What the hell is...........and saying things in a manner that was
taken entirely the wrong way...I know that you can be more detailed in critique
but he was stating things that A) could have been put in a more mature way B)
He slammed a lot of things as if he was making fun of props and so on...He
should present himself more maturly next time..
Quick point of order: Higginbotham selected the music for LC's show this year
but Key Poulan (CA) arranged it.
Danke.
Click "thread" at the top of one of the messages and you'll see all of the
messages in response to his review. Its the easy way of not missing
anything.
People are so funny when they don't have a clue to whom they are writing. I
could care less about you or the fact that you probably marched Bayou City
Blues. Don't think you can talk down to me, either. I've been involved (and
still am) in this stuff far longer than you have, I've worked (and am
working) with the best in the country at what they do, and I know more than
you about every facet of the activity. So cram it. You obviously aren't a
drummer or you would've caught the name reference too. Stay hard.
$
Bugleboy96 <bugle...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> >What can I say? They know NOTHING about this
> >activity!!!!!
>
> what does this mean??
>
> Who doesnt know anything about what activity?
> ]
> Would you care to elaborate?
DARE YOU QUESTION ME, BUGLEBOY? Do you
know who I am? Do you know how fooooooolish
you are to insinuate that I should explain my
texts? DO THE RESEARCH! YOU WILL SEE
WHERE MY LOYALTIES ARE STREWN ABOUT! For
one thing, I have marched VH, NMN. LUT, C,
BRT, BLT, VCR, MO, JO, and CYR!!!!! Have you?
No I don't think so! I am responsible for
several of the greatest tuba players ever to
blast a low F! I KNOW WHO THE LEADERS OF ALL
COUNTRIES ARE, BIG AND SMALL. In fact, in
some small Arab countries, my name must be
mentioned in Weddings BY LAW. I make millions
of dollars a day in a very lucrative vending
machine industry that covers the greater
Houston- Galveston-Peru triangle. I tell the
many young people who worship my image that
Life is like a Giant Vending machine: If it doesn't
give you what you want-Kick it!!!! Somehow
this relates to band, but I'm not sure at the
moment.
Finally, I go to marching competitions held all
over the country-even Louisiana, where
supposedly I'll be arrested if I show up wearing
my Grandmother's clothes again. Hah! Let them
try!
In conclusion, I am never wrong.
MrCorpsGuy 8564
thanks
>People are so funny when they don't have a clue to whom they are writing. I
>could care less about you or the fact that you probably marched Bayou City
>Blues. Don't think you can talk down to me, either. I've been involved (and
>still am) in this stuff far longer than you have, I've worked (and am
>working) with the best in the country at what they do, and I know more than
>you about every facet of the activity. So cram it. You obviously aren't a
>drummer or you would've caught the name reference too. Stay hard.
>
Well I look forward to your upcoming sequals to pure stupidity that you
continue to display....First off I dont march Bayou City Blues, but have a few
friends that do.... you have been envolved in the activity longer than I have??
Maybe so--its really not relevant to the post, but I would like to compare the
instruction that you have had to mine and I would like to see who has the
better instructions....your right I am not a drummer...why would a drummer
teach trumpet lessons at 4 middle schools? Are you sure you know EVERYTHING
about the activity.....LOL whatever you say....I dont have a clue as to who i
am talking to, if I cared I would have asked right? :-)
Keep trying you keep getting weaker and weaker my friend...
This may very well be the funniest thing I have ever read. Bravo.
Hans Rott
I would like to compare the
> instruction that you have had to mine and I would like to see who has the
> better instructions
Are you two each other's nemisis? Because, if
so, amongst nemisae this kind of bold assertion
is quite clearly "fighting words." Settle this
now, before it becomes bigger than both of you!
Who comes with the better set of instructions?
I think I know....
You have no idea, but it's cute that you think you're better than me. It's
high school anyways. I want to know this great instruction of yours. I want
to have a clue as to whom I am writing. Suck.
Bugleboy96 <bugle...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> In article <qHRV3.64817$Q6.9...@news1.rdc2.tx.home.com>, "cHee$e gRiD"
> <Iic...@farts.com> writes:
>
> >People are so funny when they don't have a clue to whom they are writing.
I
> >could care less about you or the fact that you probably marched Bayou
City
> >Blues. Don't think you can talk down to me, either. I've been involved
(and
> >still am) in this stuff far longer than you have, I've worked (and am
> >working) with the best in the country at what they do, and I know more
than
> >you about every facet of the activity. So cram it. You obviously aren't a
> >drummer or you would've caught the name reference too. Stay hard.
> >
>
> Well I look forward to your upcoming sequals to pure stupidity that you
> continue to display....First off I dont march Bayou City Blues, but have a
few
> friends that do.... you have been envolved in the activity longer than I
have??
> Maybe so--its really not relevant to the post, but I would like to
compare the
> instruction that you have had to mine and I would like to see who has the
What's wrong with Bayou City Blues? Besides, I think Bugleboy march Cadets, if
I'm not mistaken. And how do you know that you know more than him about this
activity, or any activity?
Stephen Bond
May You Never Walk Alone
Madison Scouts Euphonium 99
-----------------------------------------------------
Carolina Crown 97
Bayou City Blues 98
Aren't you a director at haltom?
When did teaching private lessons suddenly become having a "studio"? :-)
Mike
>Maybe you should give up the trumpet lessons for awhile and take up grammar
>and spelling.
>
LOL.....When something gets put back in someones face and they dont have a
reply all the can do is respond with the typical "Grammar
Posts".....Congratulations on once again achieve a lower level.
:-)
Well said mike.....I hope they take your advice on this one......
It just gets me how people can get on a newsgroup and start name calling and so
on just out of nowhere....when this happens I just play a long and see if
someone will type...."Well my dad can beat up your dad....or..."Meet me at the
bikeracks after school.."
Did you go to the BOA regional?
I went and it was a fantastic show, I cant believe how much these kids can
achieve with only eight hours of rehearsal a week. A lot of these texas school
achieve the same level of execution as do the schools up north with 32 hours a
week....that is a big pat on the back to the teachers.
Well I look forward to the next remark thats made in my direction so I can read
it..laugh...and then respond
CAPNWINKEY <capnw...@aol.com> wrote in message
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HALTOM- I'm always fascinated by grey uniforms. Very good sound. I
thought the voice-over was well-intentioned, but somehow took away from
what the rest of your band was doing. Still, I'm shocked that a 9th
place was the end result.
LEANDER- I thought the marching fundamentals were good, good, good. The
props were somewhat extravegant, but they were definitely visible. :)
THE COLONY- Big cohesive sound. Somehow many people have missed what I
think was a great show, a great band, and a great sound. Truly an
ensemble concept has been taught in this band. Congrats to you and
your directors.
LANGHAM CREEK- A show concept which I didn't quite understand. I
think the disjointed nature of this show somehow managed to sour the
audience and the judges. Not enough to deny your band a top 5
placement. Congrats!
Churchill- It's always good to see bands who can put all of their kids
to good use. Sometimes it's hard to have a 'cutting edge' show when
you have 200+ on the field, but you managed to perform magnificently.
RICHLAND- Another great performance. So many good moments. So many
wonderful sounds. The unison trumpet at the beginning still gives me
chills. Wonderful, wonderful.
WESTFIELD- Congrats to Mr. Geiger and his staff. Another wonderful
year, another wonderful band. Such an interesting arrangement of
'Sacre du Printemps'. Drill and guard...two thumbs up.
SPRING- I simply hear nothing but raves about the program at Spring.
What an interesting use of props, synthesizers, guard,
percussion...everything. Truly an outstanding performance which not
only made the audience think, but also pushed the stylistic envelope.
I know my comments are not as inciting as Jpv's or anyone else's, for
that matter, but, I feel it's important to let everyone look at the
positive aspects of what the KIDS are putting out on the field.
Consider: If there is a flawed program design, it is the students who
still must go out week after week and perform said flawed show. If
students play a program which is above their heads, is it their fault,
or the fault of the directors?
While it is convenient, and often self-serving to come onto this forum
and talk about how bad one program was and, how much one band reacted,
and how much another band had horrible sounds, etc, I think we need to
reconsider who and what exactly we're chopping down: kids.
Think twice about what you say before you say it or type it.
More than likely the comment you make will affect a student, not a
director.
Steve
In article <19991107232836...@ng-bj1.aol.com>,
jpv...@aol.com (JPv1043) wrote:
> This was the best B.O.A regional I have ever seen!! All of the
> bands in finals
> should be very happy they were there. There were many crazy things
> that
> happened in the scoring by the judges but the overall placement
> was pretty much
> correct.Now on to finals.CLEMENTS- This program has come a long
> ways in terms
> of marching band in the last few years. This show was not the
> hardest thing
> performed tonight but it fit them very well. Nothing much too say
> but that I
> enjoyed it and thought it was pretty well thought out.HALTOM-Ok
> first off this
> show is WAY BETTER than last years in terms of overall design
> but.. I heard
> they did much better in prelims but tonight they were pretty
> awful. PLEASE stop
> doing so many visuals and clean your sets and work on your form
> development.
> Not one of those stupid visuals was done together. What the hell
> was that voice
> over?? It sounded like a spoiled brat from Beverly hills quoting
> the Martin
> Luther King Speech. Please tell me Mr.Corkle,Corps guy that was
> not your idea!
> This band has so much talent that if they would take a lesson from
> Westfield
> and Richland and do limited visuals and just concentrate on the
> basics this
> band could have been 5th or 6th! LEANDER-This was by far the
> biggest
> disappointment for me tonight. Where in the hell do I start? Let's
> make this
> short and sweet. Terrible sounds, poor marching, bad use of props,
> horrible
> show design and they flat out did not preform-Good luck at
> GN's.Make sure you
> buy seats for the kids at semifinals.THE WOODLANDS-Wow this band
> keeps getting
> better and better.This show was a little too hard for them but
> they gave it a
> good try. This program will keep getting better if they slow it
> down a little
> and still work on some basics.( Westfield was not made in a
> day)THE COLONY- see
> Churchill for the past 2 years.Loud,Loud,phasing,Loud,no movement
> in drill,Loud
> and Loud. This band winning music in prelims is like Friendswood
> winning
> G.E.LANGHAM CREEK-This band came in a close second for the most
> disapointing.Congrat's on putting the crowd to sleep after
> Westfield.This is
> the biggest waste of talent. This show made no sense at all. The
> arranger's
> name started with Hal and ended in Leanord I hope? Please see Jim
> Prime,Mark
> Higginbotham,or hell anyone else.Churchill-Great woodwinds. I
> cannot believe
> what I am going to say next but the brass were very uninspiring.
> First you
> overblow and spread and now you don't play out enough? Please tell
> me that you
> are going to hire an arranger because that was the most boring
> 30000 member
> band I have ever heard. Now my guess is that the guard instructor
> or should I
> say aquatic instructor did all of the work and design before
> he/she knew what
> the music was. My favorite moment was when the band was ending the
> slow section
> with a nice p phrase and the guard was doing tybo in the aquarium.
> A close
> second to my favorite moment was the drum feature were the snares
> were slopping
> through there hack section and the band was doing a passthrough. I
> had a flash
> back of me wearing a Michael Jackson Jacket and parachute pants. I
> swear I was
> at the 1980 D.C.I. finals and I almost screamed GO 27 LANCERS. If
> it were not a
> weak GN line up you would be sitting with Leander watching
> finals.RICHLAND-This
> was the best musical performance tonight and also the worst guard
> preformance.Great drill great show design. Too bad they did not
> march a little
> cleaner because this band could have easily won tonight. Awesome
> musical
> preformance.WESTFIELD-well the angry pony came into finals in
> fourth and nearly
> won the contest.The amazing streak is now extended to 17 years
> without at least
> being runner-up in every marching contest they have gone too. This
> show may
> have been the most solid from top to bottom in terms of execution.
> The only
> problem is they really lacked some G.E. at points were they needed
> it and this
> was the deciding factor.Congrat's to the guard in that they were
> the best unit
> tonight in terms of execution.SPRING-Well I have read is a bunch
> of crying
> about this shoe.This is the most innovative show ever done in this
> state PERIOD
> END OF CONVERSATION.No they did not execute as well as Richland
> and Westfield
> but the overall show design was superior.Note to the bands at
> GN.You need to
> send a thank you card to the Spring director for not going to GN's
> this year
> because you all would be competing for second place! With another
> week this
> show would win GN's!!!!! The guard instructure and visual head Wes
> Cartright
> (sp?) is a very talanted individual. This show had everything in
> it and then
> some-great music,AWSOME drumline,great guard,and mind boggling
> visual program.
> If you have not seen this show you must see a video even though it
> will not do
> it justice.I remember back in 1986 when everyone complained about
> what
> Westfield was doing was not "Marching Band" and know what is
> everyone doing?
> Sound familiar?
> Jpv 1043
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----->Luis
(student at Haltom)
Wow.
Tier 4.
Impressive.
You're right, Luis Boy. I have a confession to
make. I'm not really a band director at Haltom.
I don't know why I pretended to be one, but
maybe it's because I just wanted to be a part of
the drama, the pagentry, and the excitement
that is competitive High School marching band.
If I was just plain "Mrcorpsguy," I'm afraid
nobody would take me seriously.
When I was in high school, marching band was
my life. My bitterness and resentment began
when I was in college. I had decided not to
pursue a music career, yet I could not give up
band. I had some very good ideas to help the
university band, so I went to see the
bandmaster-rude fellow I shall never forgive.
First, I suggested we change the name of the
group from "The Fighting Texas Aggie Band" to
the "Garnet Troubador Brigade." I showed him
my drawings for a crisper, more slimming 3-
toned gray uniform (with gold and purple
sequened highlights), with Gold and Black Shako
adorned with multi-hued plummage. Then, I
asked him to consider more innovative, stylish
drill design and arrangements by the most highly
sought-after young composers in the country to
move the band into the next millineum. Finally, I
demanded he allow no one into the band without
my personal approval.
For this, I was soundly beaten by the other band
members. I quickly returned home, broken in
spirited, deflated and lacking esteem. But so
marked was I from this experience, that even
small children run from me in terror. No one
will allow me in their band hall.
Now, I sit in the stands at various marching
competitions. Alone. Watching. Listening.
Staring at the people around me. Talking to
myself. Oh, how I long to be a tuba player-
dancing, singing, marching backward on my tip
toes without falling down. I want to be a band
director-anxiously pacing the sideline, agitated
yes, but still loving. I want to wear a skin-
tight brightly-colored spandex suit and be locked
in a cage for it. OH YES, I WOULD LOVE THAT!!!
But, instead, I sit here at my computer, spouting
nonsense as though I know what I'm talking
about, just like all those other guys-my
formidable foes.
Please forgive me.
Good luck to Churchill at Grand Nationals!! We are flying all the way from
Oregon to see our favorite band!!
Lorrie Hall
A Former WC Band Mom living in Oregon and missing the great Texas bands!
> It just gets me how people can get on a
newsgroup and start name calling and so
> on just out of nowhere....when this happens I
just play a long and see if
> someone will type...."Well my dad can beat up
your dad....or..."Meet me at the
> bikeracks after school.."
>
> Well I look forward to the next remark thats
made in my direction so I can read
> it..laugh...and then respond
>
no offence or anything, but what exactly did you
want that to come across as saying?? it seems to
me, and in no way do i mean disrespect, that you
are low enough to be involved and continue none
sense quarrels? maybe that's not the approach
you were taking, but that's how it came off. it
made you seem like you have no character.
Aaron
In article <19991110231919...@ng-ft1.aol.com>,
I hope that is a joke.
/\/\
Sorry to disappoint you!
;)
Heh, too bad he was a little way off.=)
--
Mr. Tuba©
SWTexan
http://www.lcmband.com
"People who are incapable of making decisions are
the ones who hit those barrels at freeway exits."
> LEANDER-This was by far the biggest
>> > disappointment for me tonight. Where in the hell do I start? Let's
>> make this
>> > short and sweet. Terrible sounds, poor marching, bad use of props,
>> horrible
>> > show design and they flat out did not preform-Good luck at GN's.Make
>> sure > you buy seats for the kids at semifinals.
>>
LOL
Congrats to you at GN.................and thanks
Maybe with an apology?
Good luck at GN's.Make
> sure you
> > buy seats for the kids at semifinals.
> Sorry to disappoint you!
>
> ;)
LOL! Congratulations to all associated with Leander's fine program on
their GN finals appearance. I look forward to seeing you guys next year.
Bill Gremillion
Churchill Band Fan
San Antonio
"Without the band, it's only a game."