manga and noise
david mou
noise I suppose.... Hence, noise follows.
Finally caught up with March Afternoon. Kia Asamiya had outdone himself in
producing the lamest gag in the Compiler series yet. This one took three
miserable chapters to build up, and the sad thing is it ain't over yet. But in
retrospect, I think the joke might have worked (or just me, but who cares).
In a brief but glorious visit to L.A. I found some pretty neat things. L.A.
Kino is having a magazine dump sale, with mangazines going for $.25-1.00 among
other things (yeah, who cares about cars and watches :). Sale ends Sunday, I
think. 3/4 Morning did find it's way here, and lo and behold there's
Fujishima's new series, Striker. More on that later.
About BBFish in Young Jump. You know a manga is nearing it's life expectancy
when the heroin is about to lose her virtue. Actually, we in America don't
know that yet. Sarah says "Be gentle" and it's stay tune for next exciting
episode.
I'm totally lost on Kujaku-Oh, thou.
I'd never thought I'd see one, but in Kino was a copy of Comic Gamma, Autumn 92
issue. In it is a partial reason why Sazan Eyes sucks of late, and it's call
Blue Seed; in fact it seems more interesting than 3x3's of late. Seems a manga
artist can't help but rip off his own creations, though. CG has some other
interesting stuffs; Fantasia by Nagano Akane and Badge by Hagiwara Tamaji(?)
looks especially good.
Found a copy of Dragon Rider by Fujisangoh at Kino too. boku ureshiii.....
Other titles I picked up are X #3 and Kusunoki Kei's Daitokai ni hoero. The
sleeper of the trip (no pun), however, is Eternally by Akifuji Satoshi; once
again it proves you can't judge a bishojo manga by it's cover.
I must say thou, Dragon Rider is really cool..........
L.A. Asahiya has on fully display a good selection of Tezuka classics (which
you must buy in complete sets). The store can't seem to make up its mind, as
it moves its gaijin section yet again.
Finally, about Striker - the Shining Star, it has nothing to do with Taiho
(much to my chagrin). It's more like Keiichi in Strikeman's suit. Heroin is a
ponytailed Belldandy x Skuld with freckles, on motorbike, of course. The stor
looks promising, but let's just hope Fujishima doesn't spread himself too thin,
like that 'other dude'.
... and I really must say, Dragon Rider is really cool........
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o
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>
>Finally caught up with March Afternoon. Kia Asamiya had outdone himself in
>producing the lamest gag in the Compiler series yet. This one took three
>miserable chapters to build up, and the sad thing is it ain't over yet. But in
>retrospect, I think the joke might have worked (or just me, but who cares).
Perhaps we can ask at AX 93 why his manga are getting worse and worse.
:-)
>About BBFish in Young Jump. You know a manga is nearing it's life expectancy
>when the heroin is about to lose her virtue. Actually, we in America don't
>know that yet. Sarah says "Be gentle" and it's stay tune for next exciting
>episode.
>I'm totally lost on Kujaku-Oh, thou.
Kujaku-Oh Taimaseiden SUCKS BIG time. I decided to call it Kujaku-Oh
F-91. Of course, F there stands for "failure." :-)
>Found a copy of Dragon Rider by Fujisangoh at Kino too. boku ureshiii.....
Can you give us more info on it? :)
>Other titles I picked up are X #3 and Kusunoki Kei's Daitokai ni hoero. The
>sleeper of the trip (no pun), however, is Eternally by Akifuji Satoshi; once
>again it proves you can't judge a bishojo manga by it's cover.
I just started working on X Guide, although I don't know when I'll
be finishing it. :-)
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>In article <1m7ef9$a...@agate.berkeley.edu> ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou) writes:
>>
>>Finally caught up with March Afternoon. Kia Asamiya had outdone himself in
>>producing the lamest gag in the Compiler series yet. This one took three
>>miserable chapters to build up, and the sad thing is it ain't over yet. But in
>>retrospect, I think the joke might have worked (or just me, but who cares).
>
>Perhaps we can ask at AX 93 why his manga are getting worse and worse.
>:-)
>
coming to AX. MK is a good friend of KA, not his alter ego. There was even
a picture of them shaking hands in NewType, and we know NewType is never wrong.
Right?
(i.e. We can ask MK why his good friends manga sucks like #!^%^ nowadays. And
we can be sure that none of this will get into KA's ears, causing any un-
necessary embarrassments.)
>
>Kujaku-Oh Taimaseiden SUCKS BIG time. I decided to call it Kujaku-Oh
>F-91. Of course, F there stands for "failure." :-)
>
Having 'failed' 91 times must be very tiresome. I still don't mind seeing
babes getting exposed in every fashion, although Ogino's babe repertoire seems
to be running out. The sad truth is we buy 'em, we complain, and we buy more.
>>Found a copy of Dragon Rider by Fujisangoh at Kino too. boku ureshiii.....
>
>Can you give us more info on it? :)
>
More info?! I may translate some. Sound effects are easy. :)
>
>I just started working on X Guide, although I don't know when I'll
>be finishing it. :-)
>
Just pray CLAMP don't come up with "7 Sacrifices" or "7 Custodians" anytime
soon.
Tonghyun Kim
>>
>Must remember, Kia Asamiya is NOT coming to Anime Expo; Michitaka Kikuchi is
>coming to AX. MK is a good friend of KA, not his alter ego. There was even
>a picture of them shaking hands in NewType, and we know NewType is never wrong.
>Right?
NOT! Newtype is the least reliable of all anime magazine. :(
>(i.e. We can ask MK why his good friends manga sucks like #!^%^ nowadays. And
>we can be sure that none of this will get into KA's ears, causing any un-
>necessary embarrassments.)
Oh well, I have to roast Kikuchi for his horrendous character
designs for Kouga Yun's Genji.
>Having 'failed' 91 times must be very tiresome. I still don't mind seeing
>babes getting exposed in every fashion, although Ogino's babe repertoire seems
>to be running out. The sad truth is we buy 'em, we complain, and we buy more.
It's about time Ogino takes some break. Maybe he should go to
Kouyasan and do some meditation in front of a mandala. :-)
>More info?! I may translate some. Sound effects are easy. :)
You can always scan some pages and u/l. :)
>Just pray CLAMP don't come up with "7 Sacrifices" or "7 Custodians" anytime
>soon.
Well, 4 out of the 7 Seals (Sorata, Arashi, Subaru, and Aoki) and 4 out
of the 7 Minions (Yuuto, Satsuki, Natak and Seishirou) are already
revealed anyway. :) It's highly possible that scantly clothed lady
is also one of either seven. :)
David Chiu
>>Must remember, Kia Asamiya is NOT coming to Anime Expo; Michitaka Kikuchi is
>>coming to AX. MK is a good friend of KA, not his alter ego. There was even
>>a picture of them shaking hands in NewType, and we know NewType is never wrong.
>>Right?
>NOT! Newtype is the least reliable of all anime magazine. :(
Geez Tonghyun, can't you detect the BURNING sarcasm from the voice of dnab? :}
>Oh well, I have to roast Kikuchi for his horrendous character
>designs for Kouga Yun's Genji.
Hey, they guy draw the way he draws; generic, gender neutral, and for the most
part, gets a little sickening after you see it long enough. Still waiting for
Genji #7...
>>More info?! I may translate some. Sound effects are easy. :)
Well dnab, now that you've got ME interested... let's hear what the publisher
is...
>You can always scan some pages and u/l. :)
Wouldn't that be... nice. ;)
david mou
>
But how can a mangazine so colorful ever be wrong?! :-P
>
>Oh well, I have to roast Kikuchi for his horrendous character
>designs for Kouga Yun's Genji.
>
Not wanting to give the secret of character design away, but this is how it
usually is.... You start out with a prototype (the most beautiful woman in
your dream) design. You vary the eyes (that's x2), you vary the shades of
hair (x4), you vary the length & style of hair (x8), you vary the skin tone
(x16), you vary the bodily proportions (x32), and then you finally vary
the sizes (x64). If that doesn't describe all Kikuchi's girls I don't know
what does.
[then you start with a guy, add facial lines and facial hair (x4). You don't
keed that many because Kikuchi guys are few if not dead.]
>It's about time Ogino takes some break. Maybe he should go to
>Kouyasan and do some meditation in front of a mandala. :-)
What's the prospect of Ogino coming back with the new title Algo - Debug Log?
Some yin is necessary to keep the yan spinning. ^_^
>You can always scan some pages and u/l. :)
>
No scanner man. If that's your way of saying "bring it down and I'll scan it
for ya" then.... tell me when.
>Well, 4 out of the 7 Seals (Sorata, Arashi, Subaru, and Aoki) and 4 out
>of the 7 Minions (Yuuto, Satsuki, Natak and Seishirou) are already
>revealed anyway. :) It's highly possible that scantly clothed lady
>is also one of either seven. :)
>
And Kotori ends up the whining bimbo in the middle? No way! There's got to
be six more just like her. ^_^
Never thought a CLAMP manga can get so racy. When I got #3 I turned it around
and said "Ah!, that's what they mean by the title." Come to think of it,
how many character designs do CLAMP have? (see above) Almost forgot, varying
the degree of covering (x128).
Fujishima is smart; he gives them freckles. His characters palette forms an
8 bit plane.
Tonghyun Kim
>
>But how can a mangazine so colorful ever be wrong?! :-P
IT's TOO colorful. :-)
>Not wanting to give the secret of character design away, but this is how it
>usually is.... You start out with a prototype (the most beautiful woman in
>your dream) design. You vary the eyes (that's x2), you vary the shades of
>hair (x4), you vary the length & style of hair (x8), you vary the skin tone
>(x16), you vary the bodily proportions (x32), and then you finally vary
>the sizes (x64). If that doesn't describe all Kikuchi's girls I don't know
>what does.
Doesn't Sakura look awful like Katsumi's mother, Fuyuka? When I saw
Kikuchi's drawing for Genji LD cover, I shouted: "Geez, I didn't
know Sakura was in her 40s'. " :-)
His male characters have even less variation. :(
>What's the prospect of Ogino coming back with the new title Algo - Debug Log?
>Some yin is necessary to keep the yan spinning. ^_^
Well, it has been proven that Ogino can only do Occult mangas.
What a pathetic fellow. :-)
>No scanner man. If that's your way of saying "bring it down and I'll scan it
>for ya" then.... tell me when.
You got it right. :)
>And Kotori ends up the whining bimbo in the middle? No way! There's got to
>be six more just like her. ^_^
Six more Kotori? Come on, X is not Tenchi Muyou. :-)
>Never thought a CLAMP manga can get so racy. When I got #3 I turned it around
>and said "Ah!, that's what they mean by the title." Come to think of it,
>how many character designs do CLAMP have? (see above) Almost forgot, varying
>the degree of covering (x128).
Well, the definition of CLAMP is kinda loose. Even those who
"graduated" from CLAMP still use the name CLAMP (for obvious
reasons). The style we're used to see is Mokona's style, rather than
that of CLAMP. Akiyama Tamayo (a recent graduate of CLAMP) uses more
"cutsey" style, although not as deformed as Nekoi's SD.
In any cae, it seems to me that CLAMP is HEAVILY influenced by shoen
and seinen mangas, such as Kujaku-Oh.
>Fujishima is smart; he gives them freckles. His characters palette forms an
>8 bit plane.
So Fujishima still hasn't upgraded to 24-bit? :-)
david mou
Haven't had so much fun making noise since... the 80's.
In article <45...@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>
>IT's TOO colorful. :-)
>
But..but... NewType has never lied to me before. When it says "the newest and
greatest Gundam movie ever" it means "the newest and greatest Gundam movie
ever!"
>
>Doesn't Sakura look awful like Katsumi's mother, Fuyuka? When I saw
>Kikuchi's drawing for Genji LD cover, I shouted: "Geez, I didn't
>know Sakura was in her 40s'. " :-)
>
Maybe Kikuchi took the prime directive to heart: Katsumi likes older women.
Do you think AX will let us in after we now bash their most celebrated GoH
in public like that? ^_^;;
To be fair, how many character designs does Manabe have?
>
>Well, it has been proven that Ogino can only do Occult mangas.
>What a pathetic fellow. :-)
>
The running theory is - sick young manga artists grow up to be sick old manga
artists.
>>No scanner man. If that's your way of saying "bring it down and I'll scan it
>>for ya" then.... tell me when.
>
>You got it right. :)
>
After I blow-dry it.
>
>Six more Kotori? Come on, X is not Tenchi Muyou. :-)
>
Our hero has already found a double, why not 5 more? In your X guide be sure
to note "this Kamui no Ken has nothing to do with Mark Twain".
>
>Well, the definition of CLAMP is kinda loose. Even those who
>"graduated" from CLAMP still use the name CLAMP (for obvious
>reasons). The style we're used to see is Mokona's style, rather than
>that of CLAMP. Akiyama Tamayo (a recent graduate of CLAMP) uses more
>"cutsey" style, although not as deformed as Nekoi's SD.
>
Hey, not fair! I thouht we're suppose to make noise!
>In any cae, it seems to me that CLAMP is HEAVILY influenced by shoen
>and seinen mangas, such as Kujaku-Oh.
>
Dare we say, CLAMP has gone mainstream? This X thingy looks too 'desirable'
to be called shojo. Sigh... how success can 'expose' an artist.
>
>So Fujishima still hasn't upgraded to 24-bit? :-)
>
I would say 6 bit would be plentyful for any manga artist. 10 bit and you can
already call yourself a character designer.
Speaking of 24 bit, there was a little blurp in Winter Bears Club from Yui
Toshiki. Apparently he just (as in 92) got a Mac Quatra and, like all living
breathing Mac owners, was having SCSI problems. Trivia, except for the fact
that Kurara Shake #2's cover seems computer assisted (nevermind YT and Kato
Masaki aren't suppose to be the same person). You'd think he's just playing
with his new toy, except now YT's new book (X - 2) cover is not just
digitized, but morphed as well. And the inner color page is clearly digital.
THE MAN HAS GONE SCANNER CRAZY!!! I worry for the manga industry if more
artists chooses the quicker, easier, the "dark side" way.
enuf noise for a day.
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o
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I really should stop posting and do some homework.
Tonghyun Kim
>
>But..but... NewType has never lied to me before. When it says "the newest and
>greatest Gundam movie ever" it means "the newest and greatest Gundam movie
>ever!"
Yeah, and we got FXXX-91. :( What's next? Vile Gundam? :-)
>Maybe Kikuchi took the prime directive to heart: Katsumi likes older women.
NOT that old! :-)
>Do you think AX will let us in after we now bash their most celebrated GoH
>in public like that? ^_^;;
Why not? Maybe we cannot bash Kikuchi as staff of AX but we can bash
him to our hearts' content as individual human beings! :-)
>To be fair, how many character designs does Manabe have?
3-bit at best.
>The running theory is - sick young manga artists grow up to be sick old manga
>artists.
He actually graduated from a pretty good college, you know. :)
>After I blow-dry it.
It'll get wet when you bring it to my ever-leaking apartment. :-)
>Our hero has already found a double, why not 5 more? In your X guide be sure
>to note "this Kamui no Ken has nothing to do with Mark Twain".
That was a lame joke, dave. :) Well, Kamui hasn't even touched the sword
yet and this Natak guy stole the damn thing. We won't see Mark Twain
but we'll see more than enough guests from CLMAP's other mangas.
>Hey, not fair! I thouht we're suppose to make noise!
Sorry about that. The difference between Kouga Yun and CLAMP is that
Kouga Yun CANNOT draw middle-aged men while CLAMP can. :)
>Dare we say, CLAMP has gone mainstream? This X thingy looks too 'desirable'
>to be called shojo. Sigh... how success can 'expose' an artist.
I would say X is pretty much mainstream. It has everything manga fans
want; hot babes, cool guys, pretty boys, cutesy girls, violence,
occult, etc...
>I would say 6 bit would be plentyful for any manga artist. 10 bit and you can
>already call yourself a character designer.
Hmm...there are people who only have 4-5 bit pallete but still call
themselves character designers. :-)
>Speaking of 24 bit, there was a little blurp in Winter Bears Club from Yui
>Toshiki. Apparently he just (as in 92) got a Mac Quatra and, like all living
>breathing Mac owners, was having SCSI problems. Trivia, except for the fact
>that Kurara Shake #2's cover seems computer assisted (nevermind YT and Kato
>Masaki aren't suppose to be the same person). You'd think he's just playing
>with his new toy, except now YT's new book (X - 2) cover is not just
>digitized, but morphed as well. And the inner color page is clearly digital.
>THE MAN HAS GONE SCANNER CRAZY!!! I worry for the manga industry if more
>artists chooses the quicker, easier, the "dark side" way.
Dave, that's QuaDra, NOT Quatra. :) Looks like more and more people
are buying macs these days. More free advertising for Apple Japan.
:-)
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david mou
>
Zzzzzzzzz.... Gundam
>
>
>Why not? Maybe we cannot bash Kikuchi as staff of AX but we can bash
>him to our hearts' content as individual human beings! :-)
>
I'm sure these words, and those before, will come back and haunt us. What
position you say you're going to be at AX? We don't want people who read
this catch you with Kikuchi in the same place..... ^_^
>>To be fair, how many character designs does Manabe have?
>
>3-bit at best.
>
Manabe's character pool reminds me of ol' Taiwanese soap-operas, where
'talents' were few and far between.
"Th.... there he is again!"
>>The running theory is - sick young manga artists grow up to be sick old manga
>>artists.
>
>He actually graduated from a pretty good college, you know. :)
>
Running theory revised - sick young men graduate from reputable universities
to become sick old manga artists or politicians. Afterall, somebody's gotta
buy these things. (UCSD is not a bad place too, you know)
>
>It'll get wet when you bring it to my ever-leaking apartment. :-)
>
I can imagine those people buying used manga from you at AX asking, "anooo,
were these stains.... organic?" or "Impressive... on Patlabor too."
That is, if you're selling, I've got some to unload too.
>>"this Kamui no Ken has nothing to do with Mark Twain".
>
>That was a lame joke, dave. :) Well, Kamui hasn't even touched the sword
>yet and this Natak guy stole the damn thing. We won't see Mark Twain
>but we'll see more than enough guests from CLMAP's other mangas.
>
I sense the lame joke taken, Tonghyun. :-P A cameo by Subaru would result
in "Kamui! You've gained weight."
>
>Sorry about that. The difference between Kouga Yun and CLAMP is that
>Kouga Yun CANNOT draw middle-aged men while CLAMP can. :)
>
Yes, but middleage men are few and far between in CLAMP. The hired hand must
be pretty expensive.
>
>I would say X is pretty much mainstream. It has everything manga fans
>want; hot babes, cool guys, pretty boys, cutesy girls, violence,
>occult, etc...
>
Mainstream occult, now there's an oxymoron. :)
It could have been more mainstream if the cool guys go after the pretty boys
and hot babes seducing cutesy girls.
>
>Hmm...there are people who only have 4-5 bit pallete but still call
>themselves character designers. :-)
>
Hey, that dude happened to write some interesting mangas about Greek and
Japanese myths, not to mention Sci-Fi ones. Okay, maybe not so interesting,
but they are long. Some character designers do real work. (^^)
>
>Dave, that's QuaDra, NOT Quatra. :) Looks like more and more people
>are buying macs these days. More free advertising for Apple Japan.
>:-)
It's second time somebody corrected my spelling on a.m. (heroine, not
heroin). And like I said, alt.manga and spelling don't mix.
But doesn't that worry you? Japan is one manga utility soft away from firing
all the assistants. And if they're made digital, they might as well be sold
digital. We might not find anymore manga on paper. Most people probably
won't mind, but a purist would want his manga ANALOG!
Then again, H manga with digital sounds won't be such a bad idea.....
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o
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I think I worry too much.... don't you?
Tonghyun Kim
>
>Zzzzzzzzz.... Gundam
We already had that!
>I'm sure these words, and those before, will come back and haunt us. What
>position you say you're going to be at AX? We don't want people who read
>this catch you with Kikuchi in the same place..... ^_^
yes, I'll ready to take responsibility for my words. :) I'm gonna
ask him why his manga and designs suck so bad these days. Of course
I'll be speaking in a bit more polite tone when I ask the question.
:)
>Manabe's character pool reminds me of ol' Taiwanese soap-operas, where
>'talents' were few and far between.
>
>"Th.... there he is again!"
Things are not much different in Korea. Same old face, same old
voice. Korean mangas are kinda like that, too.
>Running theory revised - sick young men graduate from reputable universities
>to become sick old manga artists or politicians. Afterall, somebody's gotta
>buy these things. (UCSD is not a bad place too, you know)
We'll see --- in 30 years. :-)
>I can imagine those people buying used manga from you at AX asking, "anooo,
>were these stains.... organic?" or "Impressive... on Patlabor too."
My mangas are all safe, except for a volume of OKB!
>That is, if you're selling, I've got some to unload too.
I'll have a table at AX93. If you have stuff to unload, feel free to
dump them at my table. :)
>I sense the lame joke taken, Tonghyun. :-P A cameo by Subaru would result
>in "Kamui! You've gained weight."
Maybe Kotori's food are fat-rich. :-) Anyway, looks like Subaru
won't be a cameo character but actually one of the seven seals.
>Yes, but middleage men are few and far between in CLAMP. The hired hand must
>be pretty expensive.
Even simple labors are not cheap in Japan these days, you know. :)
Or maybe they can hire animators. :-)
>It could have been more mainstream if the cool guys go after the pretty boys
>and hot babes seducing cutesy girls.
Actually that might come true in X. :-)
>Hey, that dude happened to write some interesting mangas about Greek and
>Japanese myths, not to mention Sci-Fi ones. Okay, maybe not so interesting,
>but they are long. Some character designers do real work. (^^)
Well, there are more than just one dude. There will be at least
three of them at AX 93. :-)
>It's second time somebody corrected my spelling on a.m. (heroine, not
>heroin). And like I said, alt.manga and spelling don't mix.
I know. I was just making noises. :-)
>But doesn't that worry you? Japan is one manga utility soft away from firing
>all the assistants. And if they're made digital, they might as well be sold
>digital. We might not find anymore manga on paper. Most people probably
>won't mind, but a purist would want his manga ANALOG!
By then, there would a personal typesetter in every household. :)
Anyway, some people will never convert to computers.
>Then again, H manga with digital sounds won't be such a bad idea.....
And comes in a CD-ROM. :-)
Paul M. Aoki
>ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou) writes:
>>Then again, H manga with digital sounds won't be such a bad idea.....
>And comes in a CD-ROM. :-)
Bad idea -- it gums up the drive mechanism.
(Oh, you meant the manga.)
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Tonghyun Kim
>In D&T's Excellent Newsgroup, tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>>ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou) writes:
>>>Then again, H manga with digital sounds won't be such a bad idea.....
>>And comes in a CD-ROM. :-)
>
>Bad idea -- it gums up the drive mechanism.
>
>(Oh, you meant the manga.)
I don't have a CD-ROM player myself. So how should I know? :-)
Welcome to the world of perpetual noise, Paul! :)
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david mou
I think we've already cost the net tens, if not hundres of thousands of
dollars. But, continue with 'discussion'.
In article <45...@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>>Zzzzzzzzz.... Gundam
>
>We already had that!
>
XXX Gundam?
>
>yes, I'll ready to take responsibility for my words. :) I'm gonna
>ask him why his manga and designs suck so bad these days. Of course
>I'll be speaking in a bit more polite tone when I ask the question.
Something like, "Doushite, saikin sensei no shigoto ha detaramenande-
gozaiimasuka?"
Or, if the above doesn't make sense, I meant to say "Why is it, your honorable
sir, that your recent work suck the most glorious shit ever?"
>
>We'll see --- in 30 years. :-)
>
What can we do with 30 years worth of Sunday?
"Quick, the dam's bursting!"
>
>My mangas are all safe, except for a volume of OKB!
>
As a chemist, if I remember correctly, you should know the danger of
electrylysis on manga. (Judging from the water running down from ceiling
light wire.) How about this. If something happens to you, you can will
your mangas to me. And to be fair, I'll will you my mangas, and throw in
a slightly used Toyota Celica GT-S.
>
>I'll have a table at AX93. If you have stuff to unload, feel free to
>dump them at my table. :)
>
1500 slightly illegal Gundam posters?
>
>Maybe Kotori's food are fat-rich. :-) Anyway, looks like Subaru
>won't be a cameo character but actually one of the seven seals.
>
You're not serious!? They might as well dimension port Asura & Co. over as
well.
>Even simple labors are not cheap in Japan these days, you know. :)
>Or maybe they can hire animators. :-)
True. And it won't be long before computers take over in cell productions
and color matching. Days of animators are numbered.
Wouldn't be nice if there's a day when animators work so cheap, even WE can
afford them? :-)
>>It could have been more mainstream if the cool guys go after the pretty boys
>>and hot babes seducing cutesy girls.
>
>Actually that might come true in X. :-)
>
A couple more X's and I might want to write something about it myself....
>Well, there are more than just one dude. There will be at least
>three of them at AX 93. :-)
>
W0w, a whole 12 bit!
>I know. I was just making noises. :-)
>
Why do you think I'm quoting every other lines? :-P
>By then, there would a personal typesetter in every household. :)
>Anyway, some people will never convert to computers.
>
And there was a time when I thought Karaoke would never work in America....
>>Then again, H manga with digital sounds won't be such a bad idea.....
>
>And comes in a CD-ROM. :-)
>
The more you think about it, the more you'd wonder why somebody hasn't done
something of this line already. CD-ROM manga/movies are definitely cheaper
to make than anime. It can be interactive (but not problem solving type),
and surly people would like to hear what they would have to imagine otherwise.
The manga artists would only have to act character designers, and let the
soon-to-be-unemployed animators do the data entry (vocational retraining).
And if no company wants to give a shot, there are WORM drives and very bored
otakus. This thing is even with our reach.
Eamon
>
>I think we've already cost the net tens, if not hundres of thousands of
>
>and color matching. Days of animators are numbered.
>
Well, we know Disney is doing this to some point, but seeing the rate they're pumping out
movies, this might not be such a bad thing...
>
>
>>>Then again, H manga with digital sounds won't be such a bad idea.....
>>
>>And comes in a CD-ROM. :-)
>>
>
>The more you think about it, the more you'd wonder why somebody hasn't done
>something of this line already. CD-ROM manga/movies are definitely cheaper
>to make than anime. It can be interactive (but not problem solving type),
>and surly people would like to hear what they would have to imagine otherwise.
I don't know, isn't this pretty much what all those CD-rom games from ELF and
DIO qualify as? They have PCM sound, pages of graphics, interactive,
8 bit (oh my god!) in some cases, and we have U.S. companies porting them
over! Some of these games have great artists on staff, and they come out
fairly often. Go buy an FM-Townes, only about $1000 for the home system,
and find out what they mean by "AVG demo RPG demo SLG demo nai mattaku
atarashii type no game" :) So, who's the brave Otaku ready to try this
out and spread the screen shots? We can have a drawing at AX93, pay a fee
to enter, and "you may just win a whole game system, but of course, just
what type of game system depends on how many entries, so please bring a
friend".
Eamon
Official D2W2 Spokesperson
Tonghyun Kim
>dollars. But, continue with 'discussion'.
Not as much as that Minovski particles thread. :-)
>XXX Gundam?
X (Batsu) Gundam. :-)
>Something like, "Doushite, saikin sensei no shigoto ha detaramenande-
>gozaiimasuka?"
>
>Or, if the above doesn't make sense, I meant to say "Why is it, your honorable
>sir, that your recent work suck the most glorious shit ever?"
Saikin sensei no manga wa zenzen omoshiroku naindesu. Doushite sonna
tsumaranai manga bakari kaite irassharundesuka?
>What can we do with 30 years worth of Sunday?
>
>"Quick, the dam's bursting!"
Maybe I should build a Museum of Manga and Hentai. :-)
>As a chemist, if I remember correctly, you should know the danger of
>electrylysis on manga. (Judging from the water running down from ceiling
>light wire.) How about this. If something happens to you, you can will
>your mangas to me. And to be fair, I'll will you my mangas, and throw in
>a slightly used Toyota Celica GT-S.
Now I get the picture. You are the one who poked holes on my roof!
But don't worry, a manga-oh cannot be slain by mere 110V. :-)
>1500 slightly illegal Gundam posters?
I would correct that to "highly" illegal Gundam posters. :-)
>You're not serious!? They might as well dimension port Asura & Co. over as
>well.
At least those people from Dukalion and CLAMP Campus Detective will
appear in X. Oh well, all CLAMP mangas take place in the same
universe after all. :)
>True. And it won't be long before computers take over in cell productions
>and color matching. Days of animators are numbered.
Well, animators are really cheap in Japan. Average salary of an
animator who works 60-70 hours per week is less than $1000. :(
>Wouldn't be nice if there's a day when animators work so cheap, even WE can
>afford them? :-)
They're ALREADY cheap. :-)
>A couple more X's and I might want to write something about it myself....
Now an X-rated X dojinshi? :-)
>W0w, a whole 12 bit!
NOT! 16+16+16 = 48. :-)
>Why do you think I'm quoting every other lines? :-P
Anyway, Quatra reminds me of Quatro Bagina. :-)
>And there was a time when I thought Karaoke would never work in America....
Well, people are more conservative with computers. Besides, Karaokes
don't crash. :-)
>The more you think about it, the more you'd wonder why somebody hasn't done
>something of this line already. CD-ROM manga/movies are definitely cheaper
>to make than anime. It can be interactive (but not problem solving type),
>and surly people would like to hear what they would have to imagine otherwise.
>The manga artists would only have to act character designers, and let the
>soon-to-be-unemployed animators do the data entry (vocational retraining).
>And if no company wants to give a shot, there are WORM drives and very bored
>otakus. This thing is even with our reach.
Actually there are quite a few H games and graphic collection for FM
Towns. With Macs getting ever-popular in Japan, it won't be too long
before we see those type of things for Mac.
For now, I'm anxiously waiting for Patlabor CD-ROM game.
david mou
seems to be able to find the 'r' key; whole net suffers. If you've had
enough of this, children, try /david mou/a:j.
In article <45...@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>
>Not as much as that Minovski particles thread. :-)
>
Now that I have successfully generated noise at all 2 1/2 major J anime/manga
newsgroups, and spent the succeeding 4 hrs on IRC, I can now without hesitation
claim the honor of "Most Ignorable Man on Net". But back to Gundam, me think
it's about time we have a panel in AX to seriously challenge the validity,
and the subsequent production values, of this series. The anti-Gundam panel.
The Goddamn panel.
>
>X (Batsu) Gundam. :-)
>
Sunrise can never run out of ideas. The Color of Gundam, the Scent of a
Gundam, Three's Gundam, Of Mice and Gundam, Gundam of Wrath, On Living Gundam,
Gundam and Fury, the Hunt for Red Gundam, Truth or Gundam
.... and Driving Ms. Quess.
>Saikin sensei no manga wa zenzen omoshiroku naindesu. Doushite sonna
>tsumaranai manga bakari kaite irassharundesuka?
>
Yaroo! Nande kono kusaimono tsukutanda!! Kuso kuraee!!
translation - Sir, we like your work very much. Welcome to America!
>>What can we do with 30 years worth of Sunday?
>
>Maybe I should build a Museum of Manga and Hentai. :-)
"Son, this is the issue of Sunday that came out the day you were born. I
remember waiting for hours, pacing up and down, and finally got the last
copy at Kino."
>
>Now I get the picture. You are the one who poked holes on my roof!
>
>But don't worry, a manga-oh cannot be slain by mere 110V. :-)
>
Notice how your lights have gotten brighter of late? ^_^
>
>I would correct that to "highly" illegal Gundam posters. :-)
>
The high degree of illegality can be remedized. With creative usage of
felt-tips, the poster can read "Mobile Suite Gun". And you can tell them
it's a movie poster about mystery shooting at a Motel 6.
>At least those people from Dukalion and CLAMP Campus Detective will
>appear in X. Oh well, all CLAMP mangas take place in the same
>universe after all. :)
If X turns out to be something like Ariel or Battle Royal High....
"kane kaezee!!!"
But then, since they're all the the same universe, I propose the Seiya
brother theory. This explains why we don't see Kamui's father, and why,
despite having 2 wives, Mr. Ikyuuin is never home. ^_^
>Well, animators are really cheap in Japan. Average salary of an
>animator who works 60-70 hours per week is less than $1000. :(
>
>They're ALREADY cheap. :-)
>
$1000 per week or month? Per month would make ... hey, $1 a cel! Let's
see, each second costs $5 (considering all the shortcuts they take), so a
3 minute flick would cost $900, cheaper than a run of legal Gundam news-
letter or a stack of illegal Gundam posters.
Heeeeey........... ^_^
>Now an X-rated X dojinshi? :-)
Well, in a typical fashion of any dojinshi, it's just the reader's
interpretation of what happened undocumented. Like - how Kamui came to
be, or what happened to Kotori's mother before she went to pieces.
So many babes, so little cloths.
>NOT! 16+16+16 = 48. :-)
Are you doing RISC processing or what?! ^_^ We'd be lucky if we can get
a 24-bus out of these guys. Takada Akemi, at best, gets 14 bit.
>Well, people are more conservative with computers. Besides, Karaokes
>don't crash. :-)
Nobody stays ignorant forever; even the Americans catch up with consumer
gadgetry. Turboduo is making a SCSI adaptor catridge for Macs/PeeCees.
It won't be long before the software makers think "Hey! If she bleeds,
port it!"
>Actually there are quite a few H games and graphic collection for FM
>Towns. With Macs getting ever-popular in Japan, it won't be too long
>before we see those type of things for Mac.
You wonder why we don't have a dojin-soft industry in America. Oh, that's
right, Disney sues.
It won't be long as in won't be how long? Although there are plenty of
H games in various platforms, no one's being sold AS digitized manga.
Thinking adjustment is more difficult to attain than hardware development,
in this case.
There are people, okay it's just me, who would like no no brainer, flash
as it goes things. I don't want to play a game; why can't she play
herself?
>For now, I'm anxiously waiting for Patlabor CD-ROM game.
Can you die in this thing?
btw, Eamon, if you're reading this, the 18 & Over stuffs for AX panels
got all the stamps of approval from upstairs. The show's yours now,
let me know. ^_^
--
o
dm...@orion.acs.uci.edu ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu studio 3x3 ^ ^
4 years of Berkeley physics later... a noise maker.
Tonghyun Kim
>This is what happens when one of the party does not IRC, and neither party
>seems to be able to find the 'r' key; whole net suffers. If you've had
>enough of this, children, try /david mou/a:j.
I guess I forgot to tell you that I can't IRC anymore.
>Now that I have successfully generated noise at all 2 1/2 major J anime/manga
>newsgroups, and spent the succeeding 4 hrs on IRC, I can now without hesitation
>claim the honor of "Most Ignorable Man on Net". But back to Gundam, me think
>it's about time we have a panel in AX to seriously challenge the validity,
>and the subsequent production values, of this series. The anti-Gundam panel.
>The Goddamn panel.
Congratulations, Dave The Ignorable. :-)
I don't think Gundam panel is a good idea. Everyone has different
ideas about Gundam and that kind of panel can get real nasty if
there is no authority (such as Tomino, Imanishi, or Katoki) present
to give the definitive answer.
>Sunrise can never run out of ideas. The Color of Gundam, the Scent of a
>Gundam, Three's Gundam, Of Mice and Gundam, Gundam of Wrath, On Living Gundam,
>Gundam and Fury, the Hunt for Red Gundam, Truth or Gundam
>
>.... and Driving Ms. Quess.
The undicovered Gundam, Long Voyage Gundam, The Final Gundam, The
Silence of Gundams, The Evil Gundam, The Night of Living Gundam,
Gundam in Wonderland, Kimagure Newtype Road, Urusai Gundam, Gundam
1/2, The Forest of Gundam, Five Gundam Stories, Gundam-Oh, Gundam
Babylon, Sailor Gundam, Dirty Gundam, THe Gundam and I, CB Gundam,
The plot lecture even an old type can follow, Kyuukyoku Gundam R,
This Gundam Up, The Weathering Gundam, For whom the Gundam exists?,
The Sukeban Gundam, Supernatural Beast Gundam.... AND Ah! My Gundam.
>Yaroo! Nande kono kusaimono tsukutanda!! Kuso kuraee!!
>
>translation - Sir, we like your work very much. Welcome to America!
You should give a special instruction to Toshifumi Yoshida, who'll
be translating for Kikuchi. :)
>>Maybe I should build a Museum of Manga and Hentai. :-)
>
>"Son, this is the issue of Sunday that came out the day you were born. I
>remember waiting for hours, pacing up and down, and finally got the last
>copy at Kino."
"Kinokuniya ka...nanimo kamo natsukashii..." (Insert OnV 1985 BGM
here)
>Notice how your lights have gotten brighter of late? ^_^
Hmm...now you mention it... :-)
>The high degree of illegality can be remedized. With creative usage of
>felt-tips, the poster can read "Mobile Suite Gun". And you can tell them
>it's a movie poster about mystery shooting at a Motel 6.
Or put "N" after Gundam. :-)
>If X turns out to be something like Ariel or Battle Royal High....
>
>"kane kaezee!!!"
I'm pretty sure that CLAMP won't disappoint us. :) At least they
haven't degraded into Kikuchi stage yet. :)
>But then, since they're all the the same universe, I propose the Seiya
>brother theory. This explains why we don't see Kamui's father, and why,
>despite having 2 wives, Mr. Ikyuuin is never home. ^_^
The man with 100 wives and 100 kids? :) NOT!!!!!
But I wouldn't be surprised even Mr. Kamui = Mr. Ijyuin. Maybe
Akira's power manifest itself in the form of cooking skill. :)
>$1000 per week or month? Per month would make ... hey, $1 a cel! Let's
>see, each second costs $5 (considering all the shortcuts they take), so a
>3 minute flick would cost $900, cheaper than a run of legal Gundam news-
>letter or a stack of illegal Gundam posters.
Per month, unfortunately. As Tomino said, "NO ONE wants to become an
animator these days!"
Most 30 minute TV animes are made with the budget of less than 10
million yen and that includes everything.
>Well, in a typical fashion of any dojinshi, it's just the reader's
>interpretation of what happened undocumented. Like - how Kamui came to
>be, or what happened to Kotori's mother before she went to pieces.
An undocumented feature? :) Maybe we should start pouring out ideas
for X Fanzine. UI'm sure Lesfeena will love to draw CLAMP stuff. :)
>So many babes, so little cloths.
That's why you love X, right? :-)
>Are you doing RISC processing or what?! ^_^ We'd be lucky if we can get
>a 24-bus out of these guys. Takada Akemi, at best, gets 14 bit.
Both Takada and Kikuchi use Mac but....
>Nobody stays ignorant forever; even the Americans catch up with consumer
>gadgetry. Turboduo is making a SCSI adaptor catridge for Macs/PeeCees.
>It won't be long before the software makers think "Hey! If she bleeds,
>port it!"
I thought that was a vaporware. But why the hell would anyone want
to hook up Turboduo to his Mac/PC when he can connect it to his TV?
Of course, there are always computer otakus who want to everything
on computers. :-)
>You wonder why we don't have a dojin-soft industry in America. Oh, that's
>right, Disney sues.
Eamon is thinking about doing an anime JPEG CD-ROM.
>It won't be long as in won't be how long? Although there are plenty of
>H games in various platforms, no one's being sold AS digitized manga.
>Thinking adjustment is more difficult to attain than hardware development,
>in this case.
Currently there is no "manga" CD-ROM but I think there are quite a
few electronic artbook type CD-ROM/Disks. But for now, it's still
cheaper to buy a hard copy.
>>For now, I'm anxiously waiting for Patlabor CD-ROM game.
>
>Can you die in this thing?
Dunno. With new Patlabor movie in production, only Maha Vairocana
knows when the game will come out.
>btw, Eamon, if you're reading this, the 18 & Over stuffs for AX panels
>got all the stamps of approval from upstairs. The show's yours now,
>let me know. ^_^
I'm sure he is reading it. :)
Tonghyun
Albert Sze-Wei Wang
>Now that I have successfully generated noise at all 2 1/2 major J anime/manga
>newsgroups, and spent the succeeding 4 hrs on IRC, I can now without hesitation
>claim the honor of "Most Ignorable Man on Net". But back to Gundam, me think
>it's about time we have a panel in AX to seriously challenge the validity,
>and the subsequent production values, of this series. The anti-Gundam panel.
>The Goddamn panel.
>>X (Batsu) Gundam. :-)
>Sunrise can never run out of ideas. The Color of Gundam, the Scent of a
>Gundam, Three's Gundam, Of Mice and Gundam, Gundam of Wrath, On Living Gundam,
>Gundam and Fury, the Hunt for Red Gundam, Truth or Gundam
>.... and Driving Ms. Quess.
Don't forget The Last of the Gundam, Out of Gundam, In a Gundam, Without
a Gundam, Lethal Gundam, Naked Gundam, Gundam of Darkness, The Third Gundam,
Under Gundam, The Karate Gundam, E.G. The Extra Gundam, The Army of Gundam,
Indy and Raiders of the Lost Gundam, Indy and Temple of Gundam, Indy and The
Last Gundam, Back to the Gundam, Char and Amuro's Excellent Adventure,
Char and Amuro's Bogus Gundam, Gundam Wish, Dirty Gundam, Josey Gundam,
The Secret of My Gundam, A Gundam with a View, Gundam, Gundams, Gundam III,
Gundam Wars, Gundam Wars: Char Strikes Back, Gundam Wars: The Return of
the Zak, Gundam's World, The Gundam Bride, Fried Green Zaks, The Little
Gundam, Beauty and the Gundam, 101 Gundam, All Gundams go to Heaven,
Rear Gundam, View to a Gundam, Top Gundam, North by Gundam, Gundam Zebra,
the Running Gundam, My Little Gundam the movie, He-Gundam and She-Gundam,
GI Gundam, Gundam Nights, MalcolzD){bEZVeMk)y%)U
m Gundam, and Debbie does Gundam.
>The high degree of illegality can be remedized. With creative usage of
>felt-tips, the poster can read "Mobile Suite Gun". And you can tell them
>it's a movie poster about mystery shooting at a Motel 6.
Heh. I guess so... Maybe that'll make another good Gundam Sequel. :)
Albert
--
"It's not how much force you use, it's where you apply it."
-Miles Naismith Vorkosigan to Taura
"Borders of Infinity," Lois McMaster Bujold
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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david mou
>
>Don't forget The Last of the Gundam, Out of Gundam, In a Gundam, Without
>a Gundam, Lethal Gundam, Naked Gundam, Gundam of Darkness, The Third Gundam,
>Under Gundam, The Karate Gundam, E.G. The Extra Gundam, The Army of Gundam,
>Indy and Raiders of the Lost Gundam, Indy and Temple of Gundam, Indy and The
>Last Gundam, Back to the Gundam, Char and Amuro's Excellent Adventure,
>Char and Amuro's Bogus Gundam, Gundam Wish, Dirty Gundam, Josey Gundam,
>The Secret of My Gundam, A Gundam with a View, Gundam, Gundams, Gundam III,
>Gundam Wars, Gundam Wars: Char Strikes Back, Gundam Wars: The Return of
>the Zak, Gundam's World, The Gundam Bride, Fried Green Zaks, The Little
>Gundam, Beauty and the Gundam, 101 Gundam, All Gundams go to Heaven,
>Rear Gundam, View to a Gundam, Top Gundam, North by Gundam, Gundam Zebra,
>the Running Gundam, My Little Gundam the movie, He-Gundam and She-Gundam,
>GI Gundam, Gundam Nights, MalcolzD){bEZVeMk)y%)U
>m Gundam, and Debbie does Gundam.
>
Congradulation in opening a brand new can of worms. To add:
Gone with the Gundam, Citizen Gundam, Gundamblanca, Singing in the Gundam,
Gundam and Juliet, The Seven Gundam, Marusa no Gundam, Gundam Po Po,
Super Gundam, Bat Gundam, Spider Gundam, Flash Gundam (I hear FBI knocking)
Four and Her Sisters, Nina and Maula, The Gundam Connection, To Live and
Die in Gundam, The American Gundam, The Gundam of 84, The Gundam of 96,
The Adventures of Huckleberry Gundam, The Legend of Lone Gundam, Gundam 88,
Gundam's Island, Tales from the Gundam, Attack of the Killer Gundam, the
Night of the Living Gundam, Nightmares on Side Seven, My Left Gundam, Gundam
and the Gentleman, Gundam - Oboedeimasuka, Gundam Rosso, Gundam no Ken,
Goddamn!!, Fujiki no Uchyu no Gundam, Honey - I Shrunk the Gundam,
The Revenge of the Newtypes - II, Hokuto no Gundam, Hana no Gundam,
Gunlabor, GS Mikami, Video Gundam Ai, Kiseigundam, Gundamdharma,
Ha Zion Den, Silent Gundam, Dark Gundam (wait, somebody said that already?),
Gundam Paradigm, Gundam Improvement, Marrie - with Gundam, King Soloman's
Gundam, and last but not least, Gundam III - the Search for Char,
>>"Mobile Suite Gun"
>
>Heh. I guess so... Maybe that'll make another good Gundam Sequel. :)
>
Hey, we have the title, and somebody can crank out a story. The animators
work cheap in Japan. All we need is a BGM and anime it goes. Let's see,
who can do the music:
Arrested Gundam, Gundam Jackson, Stacy G, Anzen Gundam, Gundam Sakamoto,
Gundam Clapton, Seisko Gundam, Gundam Nakamori..........
[Albert: At least I'm replying your noise on the fly. TK's I've gotta down-
load and think for a while. No IRC for me tonight.]
david mou
>
compiled the client on my account, and everything is preppy now. Oh, actually,
before I made the client, I learned how to makefile.
>I don't think Gundam panel is a good idea. Everyone has different
>ideas about Gundam and that kind of panel can get real nasty if
>there is no authority (such as Tomino, Imanishi, or Katoki) present
>to give the definitive answer.
Quoting Nachi from Compiler, "Wouldn't that be fun!?"
It'd be nice to have you (yeah you), JO, DC, Albert, and whoever else thinks
he's Gundam-oh, duke it out in open, unmoderated forum. That would be a sight
I want to watch. And I like to watch......
>The undicovered Gundam, Long Voyage Gundam, The Final Gundam, The
>Silence of Gundams, The Evil Gundam, The Night of Living Gundam,
>Gundam in Wonderland, Kimagure Newtype Road, Urusai Gundam, Gundam
>1/2, The Forest of Gundam, Five Gundam Stories, Gundam-Oh, Gundam
>Babylon, Sailor Gundam, Dirty Gundam, THe Gundam and I, CB Gundam,
>The plot lecture even an old type can follow, Kyuukyoku Gundam R,
>This Gundam Up, The Weathering Gundam, For whom the Gundam exists?,
>The Sukeban Gundam, Supernatural Beast Gundam.... AND Ah! My Gundam.
^_^;; see previous post (Ah! My Gundam did strike a cord. hmmm.... :)
>>Yaroo! Nande kono kusaimono tsukutanda!! Kuso kuraee!!
>>
>>translation - Sir, we like your work very much. Welcome to America!
>
>You should give a special instruction to Toshifumi Yoshida, who'll
>be translating for Kikuchi. :)
This will be taught to the audience before Kikuchi-sensei's grand entry as
the official greeting from AX. Any unfortunate misunderstanding are completely
unintentional, since I don't understand a word of it in original form.
And THAT'S the official position!
>"Kinokuniya ka...nanimo kamo natsukashii..." (Insert OnV 1985 BGM
>here)
The lone fisherman religiously attends the daily opening of the mart,
anticipating the freshes pick of the day. The morning fog has yet cleared
when the old man caresses his findings back to his grandchild's cart.
- from Old Man and the Kino
>>Notice how your lights have gotten brighter of late? ^_^
>
>Hmm...now you mention it... :-)
Notice your latrine been bubbling elemental gases lately? (^^)
>Or put "N" after Gundam. :-)
"Hurry, hurry! Get the one and only poster for the yet unseen Gundam movie!
The latest and the greatest from Sunrise!! And that's a quote from a magazine
we all love and trust!!"
>I'm pretty sure that CLAMP won't disappoint us. :) At least they
>haven't degraded into Kikuchi stage yet. :)
Phenomenal success, simultaneous projects, solid fan following. Saaaa.....
I give them 6 months.
>The man with 100 wives and 100 kids? :) NOT!!!!!
You know how much that's going to boost the sale??!
>But I wouldn't be surprised even Mr. Kamui = Mr. Ijyuin. Maybe
>Akira's power manifest itself in the form of cooking skill. :)
The mothers, seeing Kamui no Ken. "We want it! We want it!"
>Most 30 minute TV animes are made with the budget of less than 10
>million yen and that includes everything.
80 grands?! That must include licensing. I can personally afford 5 mins
of MY anime (from previous calculation). Take that to the grave, I say.
>An undocumented feature? :) Maybe we should start pouring out ideas
>for X Fanzine. UI'm sure Lesfeena will love to draw CLAMP stuff. :)
The Seven Harems - all age, race, and sex welcome.
Kamui does Kamui?
And nothing I write can go without Family Affairs.
>>So many babes, so little cloths.
>
>That's why you love X, right? :-)
Simple appreciation for the beauty of human figures, unhampered by the
unnecessary, if not sacrilegious, artifacts of social restraints.
>Both Takada and Kikuchi use Mac but....
Don't put them on the same line. T is jpeg where as K, at best, system
palette.
>I thought that was a vaporware. But why the hell would anyone want
>to hook up Turboduo to his Mac/PC when he can connect it to his TV?
>Of course, there are always computer otakus who want to everything
>on computers. :-)
Only reason I brought it up is because I saw the beta on Computer Chronicle
on PBS last night. The interface cartridge enables the computer to CONTROL
Turbo's CD drive, allowing it to read standard Mac CD libraries. Too bad if
you have CD drive already. But if not, best thing comes to those who wait. :)
>Eamon is thinking about doing an anime JPEG CD-ROM.
Eamon will find himself followed by some tall, fingerless Japanese men on
one moonless night. ^_^
>Currently there is no "manga" CD-ROM but I think there are quite a
>few electronic artbook type CD-ROM/Disks. But for now, it's still
>cheaper to buy a hard copy.
Not my idea; I got it from Lover's Rain. Whatever that bimbo was holding
in the car, it looks awfully mangaish.
Imagine the scenario, where you go to Kino, hand them a cartridge and $5,
and they can burn the latest SS onto the PROM chip (coded, no doubt). With
it and a display you get a slightly lossy image of the manga (compilation
is, of course, not lossy) and you can put the whole system in your pocket
next to the phone. The Chinese (as in Chinese + HK + Taiwan) will no doubt
develop ROM bleeding devices, and we will no doubt buy it from someone
we all know so well. (See name above)
20 years from now, he would say, "Dave? What Dave? Never heard of that SOB."
>>btw, Eamon, if you're reading this, the 18 & Over stuffs for AX panels
>>got all the stamps of approval from upstairs. The show's yours now,
>>let me know. ^_^
>
>I'm sure he is reading it. :)
>
I think we can call the AX panel planners "The Unfireables".
Chih-Ping Kuo
I really hate to crash a good party, but some of the posts are just
too good to let go by w/o a words.... :) so just ignore me for a min.
>> Three's Gundam
'trying to project the images of 3 Gundams walking down the street making pass
at each other'
>> the hunt for Red Gundam
'ummm, gundam san, I am taking you on a training cruise to side 13, where
all the hot babes are, so don't worry if you see a Zaku behind us.....'
> The Night of Living Gundam
'trying to project images of a bounch of gundams raising out of their
coffins, walking stiffly toward you while droping sliming parts all
over the places...'
> Gundam 1/2
'trying to project a Gundam that will transform by either hot or cold
water....'
> Sailor Gundam
'trying to project image of 5 Gundams that will spin around while
putting on make-up and clothes to become....The Sailor Gundams!'
> Supernatural Beast Gundam
'trying to project....nah, never mind :)
I am sorry DM and Albert, TH got some better ideas here... :)
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Chih-Ping Kuo "There is not enough darkness in all
k...@sumax.seattleu.edu the world to put out the light of
standard disclaimer applied one small candle." -- Anonymous.
Chih-Ping Kuo
> Video Gundam Ai
'trying to project the image of the Gundam Ai walking out of your
TV set, then pointing at his/her (fill in the blank) "heh, this
is not in the original size!"'
Iain Sinclair
>I guess I forgot to tell you that I can't IRC anymore.
Is that why you suddenly have this spare time? :-) I guess it's
too optimistic to hope that you post more signal to r.a.m. :-)
>Currently there is no "manga" CD-ROM but I think there are quite a
>few electronic artbook type CD-ROM/Disks. But for now, it's still
>cheaper to buy a hard copy.
I forget the details, but I think Young Jump has experimented with
releasing YJ stuff as multimedia (on CD-ROM or whatever). As I recall,
this mostly consisted of digitised OAVs (video+sound) and maybe some
manga scans. (I forget the exact details.)
I think for 99% of people, manga will always be something they buy
in a bookstore/newsagent. After all, that's why it's so popular, right?
People can read it on trains, in the park, at the beach (well, it happens
here :-), whatever. CD-ROM would be seriously downgrading the convenience
of manga as it exists now.
When we see CD-ROM newspapers (well, there's Usenet on CD-ROM, but..),
I think we'll see CD-ROM manga.. along with commuters who have their
portable CD players and non-cheap sunglasses. :-) But as you say,
there will always be computer otakus who want EVERYTHING on computer. :-)
(So if that's 1% of the market, and we're talking about Shonen Jump,
that's 60000 people.)
In the short term, there seems little doubt that computers are going
to change the way manga is produced, and its appearance. They already
are.
David Chiu
>> Sailor Gundam
>'trying to project image of 5 Gundams that will spin around while
>putting on make-up and clothes to become....The Sailor Gundams!'
Somehow, the image of Gundams in miniskirts just doesn't... SIGH :)
david mou
>
>Is that why you suddenly have this spare time? :-) I guess it's
>too optimistic to hope that you post more signal to r.a.m. :-)
>
I don't know what the world has come to. a.m. getting posts, r.a.m. turning
kong-fu, and r.a.a.'s noise level seems suddenly tolerable.
>I forget the details, but I think Young Jump has experimented with
>releasing YJ stuff as multimedia (on CD-ROM or whatever). As I recall,
>this mostly consisted of digitised OAVs (video+sound) and maybe some
>manga scans. (I forget the exact details.)
There are all kinds of experiments, up and including the dreaded Drama CDs and
Casette books which we can't seem to find a copy (in America, that is). It's
not a matter of format change, however, but more like expanding the buyer base.
Nowadays you can sell anything with Ranma's face painted on it.
>I think for 99% of people, manga will always be something they buy
>in a bookstore/newsagent. After all, that's why it's so popular, right?
>People can read it on trains, in the park, at the beach (well, it happens
>here :-), whatever. CD-ROM would be seriously downgrading the convenience
>of manga as it exists now.
99% would, as I would. But will there be BOOKS in bookstores in the future is
another question. Recall vinyl vs. CD, I can't find a descent vinyl store
these days without having to drive 50 miles. Technology will only catch up
with convenience factor. Unless people would still rather carry phonebooks to
trains, PROM or MiniDisc devices will prevail. The only disadvantage to digital
format is loss of quality (due to digitization) and the cost; quality loss is
inevitable, but will ultimately made up by lower cost of operation.
Publishers loses a great deal of revenue from under/overprinting (and that I
should know. ^_^;;). If you convert manga entirely into information you put
them on mediums that are extremely mobile and versatile. A newsstand can, say,
download the latest issue from publisher, and charge for the PROM burning on
per customer basis. Doing this you kill a nest full of birds with one stone.
1) eliminate need for paper and ink, environmental, if not cheaper
2) eliminate need for shipping, storage, and recycling
3) guarantee the sale of compilation volumes, since nobody will be crazy enough
to buy separate cartridges each week. Images are lossy anyway.
4) instantaneous propagation. Kinos in L.A. will be getting it's Afternoon
0.5 seconds after Sidney gets its. If Ax decides to stay home, I can post on how
shitty Disassembler has become.
5) eliminate unnecessary embarrassment. From a distance, nobody knows what you
have in your PROM, except getting hints from the way you stand.
6) saves carrying weight. Afternoon will then weight as much as YJ.
You could have an option for compilations, digital or traditional. And knowing
otakus, probably both. Judging the way S@ny is pushing it's Minidisc, I will not
put much faith in CD-ROM as medium of choice in the future. MDs already have
encyclopedias and dictionaries, and are beginning become novels as well. If
anything, it'll be the paper industry who will want to stop progress. Watch for
S@ny vs. Paper in court in near future. :-)
>When we see CD-ROM newspapers (well, there's Usenet on CD-ROM, but..),
>I think we'll see CD-ROM manga.. along with commuters who have their
>portable CD players and non-cheap sunglasses. :-) But as you say,
>there will always be computer otakus who want EVERYTHING on computer. :-)
>(So if that's 1% of the market, and we're talking about Shonen Jump,
>that's 60000 people.)
"Back in those days...(pwit ... ding [spittoon]) I buy them mangas that were made
of WOOD! (cough cough pwit .... ding) Yeah, real, unadulterated, 100% organic,
mow-down-the-forest WOOD! (pwit ... ding) And when you go to Kinokuniya, the
shelves where filled with dead wood, printed with toxic infested, non-degradable,
nausia inducing, ozone depleting INK! (pwit... diiiing) I remember the first
time I open my copy of Dark Whisper, the sky above me cleared!! (pwit...ding)
Ahh! The good ol' days."
>In the short term, there seems little doubt that computers are going
>to change the way manga is produced, and its appearance. They already
>are.
That's the most serious sounding closing line alt.manga has ever seen!!!
btw, congrad in making here. ^_^
david mou
>barely store a week's worth of e-mails there. :(
You have that much space?! Ocf only gave me 2 megs.
>Yeah, as long as you'll be responsible for the everything that'll
>happen in the panel. :-) Don't forget that you're the live
>programming cooordinator! :)
Do you really have to blow my cover? ^_^;; I'm trying very hard right now to
get fired at that position, and move into something less labor intensive ....
like Video Room.
Still waiting for that fateful email, "Dave, this is crazy. You're fired."
>The Army of Darkness. :-)
The Gundam panel that ends all Gundam panels. See if you can drag Mark S. out
for this too. :) He's a shy guy, and for some unexplained reason he doesn't
wish reveal his past affiliations with Anime Berkeley. :-P
>Ah! My Gundam featuring Nina Purpleton. Iya!!!!! Atashi no Gundam!
"This is just the beginning."
"The struggle continues."
"You have a long way to go."
"Almost there now, my little newtypes."
"The end of the beginning is the beginning of the end."
"Just when you think it's over, it's starting anew."
"A Gundam is eternal."
:
:
>Well, considering that Tosh is translating SM for Viz, I think he'll
>censor any questions with high dosage of insult. :-)
Easier to teach the crowd, "AHOoo!! Detekure!!"
>Hmm...I didn't know you were such a literate person. :-) Just kidding. :)
If anything, I can produce bad writing promptly and voluminously.
"Please. If you think, don't manga."
>Maybe we should make Alt.manga no Video 1993. :-)
Paraphrasing a local radio station slogan, "Alt.manga - It's like a fanzine,
but noisy."
>NO. Although I noticed some bubbles in pBR 332 strain DNAs which
>have been freshly cooked with gamma rays. :-)
Found the shredded glass in the bar soap yet? Also, before you eat, take a
Geiger reading.
>"The Newtype Seal of Approval!" Receipent of 5 Hardy Gun Award! (Ask
>Ricky what does this mean. :)
Ricky told me of the Hardy Gun Award, and it's something not dissimilar to the
Penthouse 5 (you know) Awards. Last I heard, only Shurato OAV deserves such
honor. You can advertise its distinctive qualification to whoever you'll be
unloading it to.
>Well, CLMAP have enjoyed their success LONGER than Kia Asamiya. :)
So, there're more of them. Assuming the diffusion rates of the Kia-particle
are comparable between single and many body systems, I shall modify my
prediction.
9 months.
>Well, same trick doesn't work twice. Kurumada already used that
>trick once. :-)
Bet it got you all excited the first time you read it. Did it?
(Can only speak for myself.... saaa....)
>But Natak won't be as friendly as those stupid cops in 20 Mensou ni
>Onegai. :)
Friendliness is one thing, we still don't know if he's as stupid as those cops.
Besides, he could be one of them. :-P
>>80 grands?! That must include licensing. I can personally afford 5 mins
>>of MY anime (from previous calculation). Take that to the grave, I say.
>
>No. But that includes the cost for "audio" part as well.
There we have it! To save cost we can voice over ourselves. Anime, by
definition, CANNOT lip sync, so we have to be careful a bit there. If we come
up with something that pleases maximum number of people with minimum allotted
time, the venture may turn out profitable.
And no, I'm not serious. ^_^
>>The Seven Harems - all age, race, and sex welcome.
>
>Are you sure?
No, but gotta say something. ^_^;;
>>Kamui does Kamui?
I was sort of leaning on this one.....
>The affairs in Kamui-kun's Family. :)
There you have it!! Kamui-kun no Katei no Jijyou! You kill 2 shojo artists
with one dojin. :) Wouldn't it be nice if Kamui turns out to have 7 mothers,
and has a twin sister who likes to dress just like him? I'm beginning ot like
this one now.......
>And those people still consider themselves "ordinary." :-)
How about, "I like 'em without bikini lines."?
>Kikuchi only has original Mac II system palette (4-bit). :-)
The way he's going now, I think he's going back to the Classics (and I don't
mean color!). Intentionally ugly and unintentionally ugly. x2
>I guess I should postpone my plan to purchase a CD-ROM drive for my
>Mac. :)
In fact you should hastily purchase a Turboduo module. Worse comes to worst,
you still have your TV, and that issue of OKB!. :->
>Maybe Eamon should borrow Kamui no Ken from Natak. :-)
There are 2 swords........
>>Not my idea; I got it from Lover's Rain. Whatever that bimbo was holding
>>in the car, it looks awfully mangaish.
>
>Well, inside an anime, EVERYTHING looks mangaish. :-)
Was refering to the Gameboy thingy that moves not, but.... (let's kill this
thread, there are too many going now.)
>We'll be as old as Hachiyou no Roshi by the time your dream becomes
>a reality. :) Computer freak as I am, I still prefer to have manga
>in traditional format, rather than in electronic format.
You dare doubt progress!? Actually, I hope Minidisc will die too (or not do
what it's not suppose to), for acoustic reasons.
>The Bill Gates of 21st Century? :)
The overlord of the electronic mafia in 2012. People call him "Momo-yaro".
>>I think we can call the AX panel planners "The Unfireables".
>
>Is that a sequel to "The Untouchables"? :)
After AX93 they'll be the "Unhireables".
Tonghyun Kim
>With a new account, I couldn't IRC for a while either. Then I went ahead and
>compiled the client on my account, and everything is preppy now. Oh, actually,
>before I made the client, I learned how to makefile.
The disc quota on my account is fairly small, unfortunately. I can
barely store a week's worth of e-mails there. :(
>Quoting Nachi from Compiler, "Wouldn't that be fun!?"
Yeah, as long as you'll be responsible for the everything that'll
happen in the panel. :-) Don't forget that you're the live
programming cooordinator! :)
>It'd be nice to have you (yeah you), JO, DC, Albert, and whoever else thinks
>he's Gundam-oh, duke it out in open, unmoderated forum. That would be a sight
>I want to watch. And I like to watch......
The Army of Darkness. :-)
>^_^;; see previous post (Ah! My Gundam did strike a cord. hmmm.... :)
Ah! My Gundam featuring Nina Purpleton. Iya!!!!! Atashi no Gundam!
>This will be taught to the audience before Kikuchi-sensei's grand entry as
>the official greeting from AX. Any unfortunate misunderstanding are completely
>unintentional, since I don't understand a word of it in original form.
>
>And THAT'S the official position!
Well, considering that Tosh is translating SM for Viz, I think he'll
censor any questions with high dosage of insult. :-)
>The lone fisherman religiously attends the daily opening of the mart,
>anticipating the freshes pick of the day. The morning fog has yet cleared
>when the old man caresses his findings back to his grandchild's cart.
>
> - from Old Man and the Kino
Hmm...I didn't know you were such a literate person. :-) Just kidding. :)
Maybe we should make Alt.manga no Video 1993. :-)
>Notice your latrine been bubbling elemental gases lately? (^^)
NO. Although I noticed some bubbles in pBR 332 strain DNAs which
have been freshly cooked with gamma rays. :-)
>"Hurry, hurry! Get the one and only poster for the yet unseen Gundam movie!
>The latest and the greatest from Sunrise!! And that's a quote from a magazine
>we all love and trust!!"
"The Newtype Seal of Approval!" Receipent of 5 Hardy Gun Award! (Ask
Ricky what does this mean. :)
>Phenomenal success, simultaneous projects, solid fan following. Saaaa.....
>
>I give them 6 months.
Well, CLMAP have enjoyed their success LONGER than Kia Asamiya. :)
>You know how much that's going to boost the sale??!
Well, same trick doesn't work twice. Kurumada already used that
trick once. :-)
>The mothers, seeing Kamui no Ken. "We want it! We want it!"
But Natak won't be as friendly as those stupid cops in 20 Mensou ni
Onegai. :)
>80 grands?! That must include licensing. I can personally afford 5 mins
>of MY anime (from previous calculation). Take that to the grave, I say.
No. But that includes the cost for "audio" part as well.
>The Seven Harems - all age, race, and sex welcome.
Are you sure?
>Kamui does Kamui?
>
>And nothing I write can go without Family Affairs.
The affairs in Kamui-kun's Family. :)
>Simple appreciation for the beauty of human figures, unhampered by the
>unnecessary, if not sacrilegious, artifacts of social restraints.
And those people still consider themselves "ordinary." :-)
>Don't put them on the same line. T is jpeg where as K, at best, system
>palette.
Kikuchi only has original Mac II system palette (4-bit). :-)
>Only reason I brought it up is because I saw the beta on Computer Chronicle
>on PBS last night. The interface cartridge enables the computer to CONTROL
>Turbo's CD drive, allowing it to read standard Mac CD libraries. Too bad if
>you have CD drive already. But if not, best thing comes to those who wait. :)
I guess I should postpone my plan to purchase a CD-ROM drive for my
Mac. :)
>Eamon will find himself followed by some tall, fingerless Japanese men on
>one moonless night. ^_^
Maybe Eamon should borrow Kamui no Ken from Natak. :-)
>Not my idea; I got it from Lover's Rain. Whatever that bimbo was holding
>in the car, it looks awfully mangaish.
Well, inside an anime, EVERYTHING looks mangaish. :-)
>Imagine the scenario, where you go to Kino, hand them a cartridge and $5,
>and they can burn the latest SS onto the PROM chip (coded, no doubt). With
>it and a display you get a slightly lossy image of the manga (compilation
>is, of course, not lossy) and you can put the whole system in your pocket
>next to the phone. The Chinese (as in Chinese + HK + Taiwan) will no doubt
>develop ROM bleeding devices, and we will no doubt buy it from someone
>we all know so well. (See name above)
We'll be as old as Hachiyou no Roshi by the time your dream becomes
a reality. :) Computer freak as I am, I still prefer to have manga
in traditional format, rather than in electronic format.
>20 years from now, he would say, "Dave? What Dave? Never heard of that SOB."
The Bill Gates of 21st Century? :)
>I think we can call the AX panel planners "The Unfireables".
Is that a sequel to "The Untouchables"? :)
Tonghyun
Tonghyun Kim
>
>You have that much space?! Ocf only gave me 2 megs.
I have only 800k of free space on my account. :(
>Do you really have to blow my cover? ^_^;; I'm trying very hard right now to
>get fired at that position, and move into something less labor intensive ....
>like Video Room.
Well, unless someone is willing to prepare 144 hours worth of
program on SVHS EP tapes, the video room can get more hectic than we
can imagine. :)
>Still waiting for that fateful email, "Dave, this is crazy. You're fired."
Dream on. :)
>The Gundam panel that ends all Gundam panels. See if you can drag Mark S. out
>for this too. :) He's a shy guy, and for some unexplained reason he doesn't
>wish reveal his past affiliations with Anime Berkeley. :-P
I knew it. I was beginning to feel that Mark has characteristics
that define ex-Anime Berkeley members. :-)
>"This is just the beginning."
>"The struggle continues."
>"You have a long way to go."
>"Almost there now, my little newtypes."
>"The end of the beginning is the beginning of the end."
>"Just when you think it's over, it's starting anew."
>"A Gundam is eternal."
> :
> :
We have plenty of Anaheim Engineers to play the role of female
characters in AMG! Doesn't Paula looks kinda like Sayoko? :-)
Lucette can definitely play the role of Marller. :-)
>Easier to teach the crowd, "AHOoo!! Detekure!!"
Mou yamete kure!!!! :)
>If anything, I can produce bad writing promptly and voluminously.
>
>"Please. If you think, don't manga."
Then do what? :)
>Paraphrasing a local radio station slogan, "Alt.manga - It's like a fanzine,
>but noisy."
^^^^^
I would correct that to "noisier." :-)
>Found the shredded glass in the bar soap yet? Also, before you eat, take a
>Geiger reading.
Not yet. I have several layers of Kekkai around to ward off evil
influences from hostile entities. :-)
>Ricky told me of the Hardy Gun Award, and it's something not dissimilar to the
>Penthouse 5 (you know) Awards. Last I heard, only Shurato OAV deserves such
>honor. You can advertise its distinctive qualification to whoever you'll be
>unloading it to.
RG_VEDA II and Gallforce: Earth Chapter also deserve that award.
Bastard! is also getting VERY close to winning 5 HGA. :(
OK. I'll give your posters Deep Striker Award. :)
>So, there're more of them. Assuming the diffusion rates of the Kia-particle
>are comparable between single and many body systems, I shall modify my
>prediction.
>
>9 months.
See you in 9 months. :)
>Bet it got you all excited the first time you read it. Did it?
>(Can only speak for myself.... saaa....)
Not! I thought the man has finally gone nuts. :-)
>Friendliness is one thing, we still don't know if he's as stupid as those cops.
>Besides, he could be one of them. :-P
Possible. If one keeps his/her mouth shut, no one will notice
his/her stupidity. :-)
>There we have it! To save cost we can voice over ourselves. Anime, by
>definition, CANNOT lip sync, so we have to be careful a bit there. If we come
>up with something that pleases maximum number of people with minimum allotted
>time, the venture may turn out profitable.
>
>And no, I'm not serious. ^_^
Come on, Dave! You already made 2000 Gundam posters! You have to
show American otakus the truth path of otaking by making the first
garage video in the history! :-)
>No, but gotta say something. ^_^;;
Phew...glad to hear that.
>There you have it!! Kamui-kun no Katei no Jijyou! You kill 2 shojo artists
>with one dojin. :) Wouldn't it be nice if Kamui turns out to have 7 mothers,
>and has a twin sister who likes to dress just like him? I'm beginning ot like
>this one now.......
And sell that doujinshi at Komike, right next to CLAMP table. :)
Actually, mixing Kusunoki world with the CLAMP universe would work
quite well.
>How about, "I like 'em without bikini lines."?
I would definitely like to see X Swimsuit Special. :)
>The way he's going now, I think he's going back to the Classics (and I don't
>mean color!). Intentionally ugly and unintentionally ugly. x2
And his plot ideas are Apple II level. :-)
>In fact you should hastily purchase a Turboduo module. Worse comes to worst,
>you still have your TV, and that issue of OKB!. :->
Well, even in the worst case, I'll still have my LDs. :)
>There are 2 swords........
Only *1* has appeared so far.
>You dare doubt progress!? Actually, I hope Minidisc will die too (or not do
>what it's not suppose to), for acoustic reasons.
Dunno. Minidisc got a pretty good review in Audio magazine. We'll
have to wait and see whether this format will wither like DAT.
Haruki Kadokawa presents: "The Withering Format"!
>The overlord of the electronic mafia in 2012. People call him "Momo-yaro".
Or "The Pink Overlord." :-)
>After AX93 they'll be the "Unhireables".
The Cima Fleet of AX93? :-)
Tonghyun
Albert Sze-Wei Wang
Dave's World. :)
BTW, I finally saw the Ah! My Goddess OAV and thought it was pretty good.
Animation and art and pictures pretty good. I was never really interested
in Ah! My Goddess until yesterday! :)
Weathering Continent is really nice too. Good job on the script Tonghyun
but you have one incomplete sentence in there in conversation about why
girls dress up like guys.
Other crazy movie ideas: Gall Gundam- staring an all female cast. :)
Three guys in a Gundam, Tonari no Gundam- Big Gundam in Forest helps little
girl with Nekko Gundam to see mother, Gundam Move: I want to return to that
Gundam- sentimental piece about guy and gundam and dumping a girl for gundam.
Kaze no Tani no Gundam- Gundam Land!!!, Le Chateau de Gundam- The water
drains and... a Zak??? That's it???, Gundam no Takkyubin- Gundam and broom
stick, Gundam! Aim for the Top! - three girls and Gundam, Gundam Princess
Miyu- ruling over a kingdom of Shinma Gundam, Gundamian- gundam with Angel
Wings, Sol Gundam- Super big Gundam piloted by 5 New Types, and Bubble Gundam
Crisis- Female merc group in Gundams fighting Buma Gundam, level Megatokyo
every episode.
Albert Sze-Wei Wang
I am not a Gundam-oh! (image nixon saying I am not a crook!)
I just play one on r.a.a. :)
No, seriously I only got interested in Gundam after Char's Counterattack,
reaching peak at Gundam 0080 and 0083. I like the technology and I'm a
mechanical engineer who likes mind games. :)
...Ha! Explain THAT! :) Uh, they never thought of it. :) :)
But... that'll never work!! So? Gundam still became popular!
Paul M. Aoki
>The Affairs in Gundam-kun's Family, Giant Gundam, 3X3 Gundams, The
[MANY MANY more Gundam plot ideas deleted]
I'm *really* starting to wonder if you guys have been sitting around
dreaming this stuff up ever since the "Conty" $NAME thing a few months
back ..
(Wow, guilt-free noise! EXCELLENT! :-)
david mou
Think how much less email you would get if you go on IRC. In fact, think how
much less life you would have if you get into IRC.
>Well, unless someone is willing to prepare 144 hours worth of
>program on SVHS EP tapes, the video room can get more hectic than we
>can imagine. :)
AXTV: AAaaah! Tonghyun-sama!!
(Looks like you will need more Kekkai's)
>>"Dave, this is crazy. You're fired."
>
>Dream on. :)
One can't help but wake up screaming if his name is listed on Progress Report
Staff list 3 times.
>I knew it. I was beginning to feel that Mark has characteristics
>that define ex-Anime Berkeley members. :-)
Do describe these characteristics. I am most curious.
>We have plenty of Anaheim Engineers to play the role of female
>characters in AMG! Doesn't Paula looks kinda like Sayoko? :-)
>Lucette can definitely play the role of Marller. :-)
What would that make Cima? The Ultimate Destroyer Urd?
I'm more inclined for an AMG turning Gundam. No problem with bunch of babe
newtypes and a guy idiot in the middle. Wait, that sounds like Z......
(Tomino was, once again, ahead of his times.)
>Mou yamete kure!!!! :)
~~~
Now is that a pun or a hint? ^_^
>>"Please. If you think, don't manga."
>
>Then do what? :)
If you have to conduct social intercourse after manga reading, you must wait at
least 1 hour per volume. It is so that your cerebellum can at least break down
sufficent amount of mental poisen for you to conduct, sensibly, on Net.
Btw, I just came back from Torrence.....hick
>RG_VEDA II and Gallforce: Earth Chapter also deserve that award.
>Bastard! is also getting VERY close to winning 5 HGA. :(
Whatever happened to Genji?
>OK. I'll give your posters Deep Striker Award. :)
I don't know whether I should laugh or cry.... ^_^;;
>See you in 9 months. :)
Quality of a manga is inverse proportional to the number of phonecards the
publisher manages to print for it. Take that as the first of 7 signs.
>Not! I thought the man has finally gone nuts. :-)
And in fact that was rather early on in Saint Seiya. Curious how nobody ever
mentioned that again. Remembering from a SS dojin:
Shun: Ahh... ahh.....
Ikki <raising his head>: Shun, what's this blonde hair doing here?
>Come on, Dave! You already made 2000 Gundam posters! You have to
>show American otakus the truth path of otaking by making the first
>garage video in the history! :-)
(a) that's 2,200
(b) UCHerald, maaan
(c) recall Daicon Bunny
(d) it'll be done in a Japanese garage, if at all
(e) how much sex can you squeeze into 3 minutes?
But being a person inexhaustable of crazy ideas. You can gather 9 more such
idiots, somehow compile a thing 30-45 min long, and send off to the press.
LD pressing isn't that whole lot more. If such thing were ever made, you know
at least 2 copies will be sold (one of them in America). :-)
>And sell that doujinshi at Komike, right next to CLAMP table. :)
Tastefully written in a language CLAMP senseis can't understand.
>Actually, mixing Kusunoki world with the CLAMP universe would work
>quite well.
Yeah, if Lesfeena can draw Kamui rolling on the floor, I'm willing to write. :)
On a relate note, and alt.manga isn't all noise for crying out loud, you know
the deal with the Ohashi sisters?
>I would definitely like to see X Swimsuit Special. :)
Coming from a shojo reader and a shojo manga, saaaa........
(Now everyone should know the danger of this black little manga with the
Mark on the front cover. Proceed with your own risk.)
>And his plot ideas are Apple II level. :-)
Torrence actually has a copy of Animesoft Perfect Catalog. In it there's a
rating of Official (ie. Newtype's) pull results for most favorite character
designers. Guess who's #1... heh heh. Lo and behold #9 is Asamiya, and what's
interesting is the little blurb about him. "...the mysterious and extremely
popular manga artist, who has eluded the public's eyes. He is a good friend
of (you-know-who) since student years." Our GoH may not see enough American TV
to notice the system here, "Anything you said will be used against you in the
court of law." Prepare your drills.
>Dunno. Minidisc got a pretty good review in Audio magazine. We'll
>have to wait and see whether this format will wither like DAT.
Audio gets paid to say things. The bigger the company the better the reviews.
>Haruki Kadokawa presents: "The Withering Format"!
Yamamoto Naoki presents: The Withering ........
Let's see what I found at Torrence. VGA 15 (end of that miserable series),
Bastard! 13 (mada-muadada), Lemnear #3 (end of that little tit-fest too), Living
Game #8 (the moment everybody waited for 7 damn long volumes is on pg. 72).
Yasunaga Koichiro has this new one Under Sea Mankind Anchovies, and it looks
very promising.
At Torrence I found an artbook by Kato Masaki (yeah that dude again). It
contains pages and pages of pixels, and I don't mean censorship.
Apparently the man is Mac mad. The back book contains interviews and production
reports. Seems he fell in love with J-Adobe_Photoshop so much he DREW with
it for months. (Sorry about previous notioning of him scanning his work.
Apparently Japanese artists prefer to do things the old fashion way, Mac
or not.) My earlier fear of an imminent digital revolution in manga industry
was, therefore, exaggerated, as people that crazy are few and far between.
david mou
>
>>Other crazy movie ideas:
[various omitted to save bandwidth.]
>
>The Affairs in Gundam-kun's Family, Giant Gundam, 3X3 Gundams.....
[aaaaAARRGG!!... (omitted)
^_^;; Like, people, this was suppose to be a joke about what a money grubbing
anime giant might do, if you give it a million years. For some strange
reason it's become an onslaught of name twisting, space wasting, time
consuming, money draining ventures. As the person responsible for this
in the first place, there's but one thing left for me to do....
The Good - the Bad - and the Gundam, Gundams of Eastwick, Gundam MkII -
Superstar, One Pound Gundam, Speed Gundam, Hi no Gundam, Gundam Ikkoku, A
Street Car Name Gundam, The Lord of the Gundam, Death of a Gundam, Chibi
Gundam-chan, Gundam the III, Please Save Our Gundam, Garasu no Gundam, Koihito
ha Gundam, Umi no Yami - Tsuki no Gundam, Jungle Gundam, Comon A My Gundam,
Gundam Monogatari, Amai Gundam, Oi! Gundam-kun, New-type Union, What's Gundam,
Hello Gundam, Minki Gundam, Zion Babylon, Gundam Rangers, Gundams of Fortune,
You Bet Your Gundam, Gundam Hospital, Gundam 90210, Charlie's Gundams, Days of
Our Gundam, As the Gundam Turns, Young and the Gundam, Designing Gundams,
Gundam in Miss Jones, Fresh Gundam in Bel Air, Little Gundam on the Prairie, I
Love Gundam, Dances with Gundams, The Gundams Under the Stairs, Gundam
Cemetary, The Incredible Shrinking Gundam, White Gundams Can't Jump, A Gundam
of Their Own, An American Gundam in London, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the
Gundam Universe, and So Long and Thanks for All the Zaks.
Iain Sinclair
> suit..."
>everyone else: "......."
>Skuld: "...BANPEI-KUN RX78-GP03 (type 1)!!!!"
>
>Later, at the NIT dorm:
>
>Keiichi: (weak voice, from outside) "Tamiya!!!"
>
>Tamiya and Aoyama look up, but are too drunk to move.
>
>Keiichi: "I want my tapes back! And the all of the junk food
> you stole when you threw me out!"
>Tamiya: (drunk) "Uhh... fuck off Morisato ..."
>Keiichi: "Yooooosh!"
>
>A giant fist comes crashing through the wall.
>
>Keiichi: "For the boxes of ramen and Calorie-mate! For my
> collection of smut! TAMIYA!!! I HAVE RETURNED!!!!"
>
>Aoshima, seated in his car, watches in amazement as the Gundam tears
>the dorm to pieces. He recognizes the elliptical ring emblem painted
>all over it (every does, after the Hystelic Wheel episode :-)
>
>Aoshima: "No way. One of Skuld's inventions did THIS?!"
>
>tsuzuku ... (not!)
kukuku.
BTW, if anyone's getting any strange ideas about drawing this, don't -
I've already got them. I'm drawing this right now. :-) (Dave, you
need something to increase the audience of K1's BS, and besides, I'm
sure you'd like to see a sample before I plough in head-first. :-)
(I already finished the page of Marller doing Madouken.. the character
design is Fujishima, as you asked, but the rest is Takahashi Kouji. :-)
I want to do a panel of a CLAMP-style Skuld getting teary-eyed over her
mecha...
Albert Sze-Wei Wang
>tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>>The Affairs in Gundam-kun's Family, Giant Gundam, 3X3 Gundams, The
>[MANY MANY more Gundam plot ideas deleted]
>I'm *really* starting to wonder if you guys have been sitting around
>dreaming this stuff up ever since the "Conty" $NAME thing a few months
>back ..
We spend ALL our spare time doing this. :) We have no life!!!! ;)
How about King Gundam, Taming the Gundam, the Gundam and the Turtle,
Gundam V, Julius Bandai, MacGundam, Heaven and Gundam, Black Gundam,
Harlem Gundam, Gachapon X, Hill Street Gundams, Babylon Gundam, Deep
Space Gundam, Time Gundam, Doctor Gundam, Gundam 7, Red Sazabi, Are you
being Gundammed?, Gundam-enders, Gundams in Time, Monty Python and the
Quest for the Holy Gundam, Monty Python and the Meaning of Minovsky
Particles, Monty Python and the Life of Mr. Minovsky. :)
>(Wow, guilt-free noise! EXCELLENT! :-)
Yeah, isn't it just totally EXCELLENT!!! ^_^
Tonghyun Kim
>
>Think how much less email you would get if you go on IRC. In fact, think how
>much less life you would have if you get into IRC.
Well, 95% of incoming e-mails are from people who don't IRC. :-)
>AXTV: AAaaah! Tonghyun-sama!!
>(Looks like you will need more Kekkai's)
Well, I don't have that many LDs. :)
>One can't help but wake up screaming if his name is listed on Progress Report
>Staff list 3 times.
I just noticed that. :) 3X3 Dave. :-)
>Do describe these characteristics. I am most curious.
I'll save this for later. BTW, Mark's picture was published in
MacUser. Now he has attained the status of Mac Otaking! :)
>What would that make Cima? The Ultimate Destroyer Urd?
Yes. Urd and Cima has many similar traits. :)
>I'm more inclined for an AMG turning Gundam. No problem with bunch of babe
>newtypes and a guy idiot in the middle. Wait, that sounds like Z......
>
>(Tomino was, once again, ahead of his times.)
Well, he used the same trick over and over. The man needs some help.
Maybe we can make a pardoy manga starring Tomino and 3 goddess. Ah!
MU Goddess' Counterattack! :-)
>Now is that a pun or a hint? ^_^
No comment. :)
>If you have to conduct social intercourse after manga reading, you must wait at
>least 1 hour per volume. It is so that your cerebellum can at least break down
>sufficent amount of mental poisen for you to conduct, sensibly, on Net.
>Btw, I just came back from Torrence.....hick
Man, you sound weird. :) But be sure not to tease a manga-deprived
manga-oh. You don't know what he is capable of. :-)
>Whatever happened to Genji?
Oops. Soory about that. Genji was soooo bad that I wiped it from my
mind. :)
>I don't know whether I should laugh or cry.... ^_^;;
Don't cry out loud...
>Quality of a manga is inverse proportional to the number of phonecards the
>publisher manages to print for it. Take that as the first of 7 signs.
Can you list them all? :)
>And in fact that was rather early on in Saint Seiya. Curious how nobody ever
>mentioned that again. Remembering from a SS dojin:
>
>Shun: Ahh... ahh.....
>Ikki <raising his head>: Shun, what's this blonde hair doing here?
Yeah, I remember that dojin. But don't you think you have gone just
a little too far? :-)
>(a) that's 2,200
2,200!? I thought it was 2000...
>(b) UCHerald, maaan
What UC Herald? :-)
>(c) recall Daicon Bunny
R.I.P. GAINAX.
>(d) it'll be done in a Japanese garage, if at all
How about your garage?
>(e) how much sex can you squeeze into 3 minutes?
Depends on who you're talking to.
>But being a person inexhaustable of crazy ideas. You can gather 9 more such
>idiots, somehow compile a thing 30-45 min long, and send off to the press.
>LD pressing isn't that whole lot more. If such thing were ever made, you know
>at least 2 copies will be sold (one of them in America). :-)
Well, I'm not planning on making videos. It's a job for an ambitious
man like yourself. :) I'm just a fanzine maker. :)
>Tastefully written in a language CLAMP senseis can't understand.
In Sanskrit? :)
>Yeah, if Lesfeena can draw Kamui rolling on the floor, I'm willing to write. :)
Well, start writing. If Lesfeena thinks it's good, she'll draw. :)
>On a relate note, and alt.manga isn't all noise for crying out loud, you know
>the deal with the Ohashi sisters?
Can you be more specific?
BTW, I recommend you seeing the special production video of
Yagami-kun's katei no jijyou. It's funniest production video ever.
>Coming from a shojo reader and a shojo manga, saaaa........
>(Now everyone should know the danger of this black little manga with the
>Mark on the front cover. Proceed with your own risk.)
CLAMP mentioned about that in March issue of Asuka. It's another of
CLAMP's "something that you don't want your parents to see" series.
>Torrence actually has a copy of Animesoft Perfect Catalog. In it there's a
>rating of Official (ie. Newtype's) pull results for most favorite character
>designers. Guess who's #1... heh heh. Lo and behold #9 is Asamiya, and what's
>interesting is the little blurb about him. "...the mysterious and extremely
>popular manga artist, who has eluded the public's eyes. He is a good friend
>of (you-know-who) since student years." Our GoH may not see enough American TV
>to notice the system here, "Anything you said will be used against you in the
Well, that catalog gives five stars to ANYTHING from Kadokawa. It's
just another BS from Kadokawa to boost the sales of their product.
>Let's see what I found at Torrence. VGA 15 (end of that miserable series),
>Bastard! 13 (mada-muadada), Lemnear #3 (end of that little tit-fest too), Living
>Game #8 (the moment everybody waited for 7 damn long volumes is on pg. 72).
>Yasunaga Koichiro has this new one Under Sea Mankind Anchovies, and it looks
>very promising.
Well, I WARNED YOU! :)
>At Torrence I found an artbook by Kato Masaki (yeah that dude again). It
>contains pages and pages of pixels, and I don't mean censorship.
>Apparently the man is Mac mad. The back book contains interviews and production
>reports. Seems he fell in love with J-Adobe_Photoshop so much he DREW with
>it for months. (Sorry about previous notioning of him scanning his work.
>Apparently Japanese artists prefer to do things the old fashion way, Mac
>or not.) My earlier fear of an imminent digital revolution in manga industry
>was, therefore, exaggerated, as people that crazy are few and far between.
Well, it's a well known fact the man is mac crzay. Buichi Terasawa
is also a MAc crzy but the problem is that the man has no talent.
Have you seen B-CLUB 84? It has interesting article on
manga/anime/sfx artists using MAc.
Tonghyun
Tonghyun Kim
>
>We spend ALL our spare time doing this. :) We have no life!!!! ;)
>How about King Gundam, Taming the Gundam, the Gundam and the Turtle,
>Gundam V, Julius Bandai, MacGundam, Heaven and Gundam, Black Gundam,
>Harlem Gundam, Gachapon X, Hill Street Gundams, Babylon Gundam, Deep
>Space Gundam, Time Gundam, Doctor Gundam, Gundam 7, Red Sazabi, Are you
>being Gundammed?, Gundam-enders, Gundams in Time, Monty Python and the
>Quest for the Holy Gundam, Monty Python and the Meaning of Minovsky
>Particles, Monty Python and the Life of Mr. Minovsky. :)
The noise continues on...
Gundam and Zaku, Gundamdharma, Maison Gundam, Bastard!: Dark Gundam
of Destruction, Living Gundam, Parasite Gundam, Gundam Smith Cats,
Gundam Island, Gundam Cop, Gundam's Egg, We sold our souls for
Gundam, Sailor-fuku and Gundam, Gundam Trooper, Saint Gundam, Gundam
Hunter, Here is Gundam, Bloody Gundams, Cyber Gundam, Glass Gundam,
Gundamshinbo, Gundam Musketeers, The Gundam of North Star, Oh!
Gundam, Highschool Gundam, Gundam Jack, Captain Gundam, Gundam's
Eye, MS Wars, The Temple of DOM, One Pound Gundam, Gundam Sweeper
Mikami, Driving Ms. Cima, Creamy Gundam, Gundam Dunk, The Future
Retro Gundam Story (Uchuu Gundam DEnsetsu), Gundamzone, Gundam
Campus Detective, The Tale of Two Gundam, Gundam shichauzo! Gundam
NO.1, Princess Gundam, The Gundam save the Queen, What's Gundam?,
Gundam Formula, The Record of Gundam War, This Gundam Up....
Tonghyun
Paul M. Aoki
>BTW, if anyone's getting any strange ideas about drawing this, don't -
>I've already got them. I'm drawing this right now. :-)
Actually, now that I think about it, the doujinshi that *r.a.m* could
really use right now is "God Save the Sinclair-kun":
Iain Murata: M-maybe .. you should try learning some Japanese?
Viz-fanboy: How in hell's name am I going to do something like that!
Don't be ridiculous, you damn fucking idiot!!
There's no alternative, I must teach your body directly!
*BASH* *KRUNCH* *SMAK*
:-) :-) :-)
Tonghyun Kim
>
>Think how successfully you could have avoided them if you get on IRC!
>:->
Then I'll have to deal with a whole new horde of otakus and
anti-otakus. :-)
>Yeah, and Mormans don't have that many wives either. Guess who is
>the first name listed on AXTV Crew, and guess who knows where you
>live.........
Come on, my LD collection is nothing compared to "certain" people.
:)
>The way you'll be spread out you'd wish you are 3x3 Tonghyun too. :-P
No thanks. :-) Even the job of Translation Supervisor alone is too
much for me...
>I'm most curious. So will the Mobile Suits use GUI?
Of course. Don't you remember joystick like pointing device in
episode 2 of 0083? :)
>Amuro, in heat of battle, "Damn I wish there were hotkeys!"
>Char, "Aahahaha, you fool. That's the Zion secret advantage!"
Quickeys...Don't leave home without it.
>Yes, but his character designers can crank them out faster than he
>call kill them.
Who knows? Tomino might come up with Anti-Minovski bomb and destroy
the entire Gundam universe. :-)
>Me think we gave Sunrise enough ideas to last well into 0195.
In the UC, Sunrise is known as...Anaheim!
>Yeah, I know. I feel as sick as a child who just had too much
>icecream. And they're so plentiful there manga shopping no longer
>presents a personal challenge. There was a time when I had to
>Order AMG. sigh...
Do you REALLY want another Dark Age? :-)
>So, how are you doing down there?
Not very well, thanks.
>Yet another example of Kikuchi's Midas Touch. :-}
I would correct that to "mummy's Touch." :-)
>Challenge accepted.
>
>(1) appearance of phone cards
>(2) appearance of pencil pads and other small goods
>(3) appearance of Chinese copies
>(4) appearance of posters, calendars, and larger goods
>(5) appearance of dojinshis
>(6) appearance of CDs
>(7) appearance on You-Know-Where, and other colorful magazines
>
>{as so eloquently portrayed in Saru-Man}
Hmm...I don't quite agree with you. Kujaku-Oh Taimaseiden sucks
even without meeting any of above requirements.
>As we know, after the 7th sign, the earth shakes, the ocean boils, the
>animator rises, and the manga is irreversibly, forever condemned.
Only the fabled Manga-Oh can save the day...
>You sound just like David C there. :-)
That is completely unintentional. :)
>And where's Japan?
Somewhere on moon? :-)
>You can't kill an otaku. You just..... can't.
The Night of Living Otakus...
>1.5e3 Gundam posters ring any bells?
Not to my ears. :-)
>Quickies are my speciality. (see [something long] below)
Dave, you need some sleep. :)
>...and forgot to mention. In the previous post, you sounded just like
>Ricky. :-)
I've talked with Ricky 3 hours before I wrote that message. :)
>"Can you read these Koreans?"
>"No, but from the looks of it, Subaru seems to be enjoying Kamui...."
I wouldn't use Korean since CLAMP seem to be interested in Korean
food and culture. They even did a manga based on a Korean Folklore.
>If I'm getting it correctly, Ohhashi Kaoru & Mayumi are identical
>twins both became manga artists. OM got herself a pen name
>Kusunoki Kei and OK is currently riding on the coat-tail of her
>more successful younger sister. Or so the publisher wants me to
>believe. But since the chance of this happening in real life is
>Exp[-(69!)] I'm just curious about the real deal.
It's a fact. Facts can be stranger than fictions.
Takada Akemi also has a younger sister who is an accomplished
illustrator herself.
>Sounds like "Come down. I show you mine and you show me yours."
>And no, don't think too hard about what I just said.
You haven't seen Giant Robo 2, have you? :)
>Heh, try to explain the 14x20" calendar hanging in your bedroom to
>your parents. (interchangeable or not)
Well, that's still smaller than your poster. :)
>Sounds like you got a copy. :-)
I'm guilty as charged. :-)
>It was VGR15, not VGA. Lemnear's tits are displaying all kinds of
>oscillation modes. Bastard! #13 is bleh! but even that is better than
>most other stuffs out there. Living Game 7 and 8 are printed only a
>month apart, #8's publish date actually says April 1. Some heads may
>roll of the publishers find out about this.
Forget about the release date. It's something that's almost never
kept in Japan.
Well, I mail ordered Bastard! #13 from Asahiya.
>So, how are you doing down there?
VERY BAD. Satisfied? :-)
>Talent aside, from what I heard people in Japan think Terasawa is an
>asshole, sunglasses and all. If anything, even assholes can use GUI.
>Great job for Apple! Now if they can come up with something that does
>character recognition and real-time translation.
Maybe Apple should use Terasawa as a model. "A computer SO EASY and
USER FRIENDLY that even Terasawa can use!"
BTW, there are Kanji OCR program and Japanese <=> English
translation program.
>Expect a friendly AXTV representative in your area soon. ^_^
Tonari no AXTV...
[Quickies deleted]
Beyond evil, there is madness. Beyond madness, there lies Dave Mou!
Tonghyun
Tonghyun Kim
>
>Actually, now that I think about it, the doujinshi that *r.a.m* could
>really use right now is "God Save the Sinclair-kun":
>
>Iain Murata: M-maybe .. you should try learning some Japanese?
>Viz-fanboy: How in hell's name am I going to do something like that!
> Don't be ridiculous, you damn fucking idiot!!
> There's no alternative, I must teach your body directly!
> *BASH* *KRUNCH* *SMAK*
The Sequel: Manga-Oh
Iain, a priest belonging to alt.manga, the headquaters of manga
fans in America, battles against the evil VIzdoushu who plan to
destroy the manga universe by dumping low quality/high price
Americanized "comic" into the American comic market. Later in the
story, it is revealed that Iain is actually the reincarnation of
Manga-Oh who fought in the last Armaggedon to save rec.arts.manga
from oblivion. :-) :-) :-)
Coming soon: Manga 0083
"We're the Alt.manga Fleet. We'll show you what real manga is like!"
:-) :-) :-)
Tonghyun
"Sieg Manga!" :-)
Iain Sinclair
tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>The Sequel: Manga-Oh
This is a laugh. :-)
But you're forgetting someone...
OSS!! MANGA-BU
Patrick Urushibara, r.a.m's founder and keeper of the peace, is dead, and
Satsutabu Rengou (*1) is responsible. Members of the manga-bu go into
hiding on alt.manga, but their fearless leader, Chih-Ping Takagi, unexpectedly
finds himself up against Conty Munemasa, whose bandwidth equals that of
a 100 men!
C-P T's ultimate technique, Yuukei (*2), is suddenly defeated. As peace
turns into war, C-P T is persuaded by West Coast Rengou to venture into
the treacherous hills of San Diego and seek guidance from Tonghun Kou-sensei,
a reclusive manga master. TK-sensei teaches CP-T the secrets of Inkyoku-ken
(*3). As its name implies, training involves smashing one's fist right
through the CRT in frustration. :-)
In the final showdown, CP-T wins by mistranslating his opponents'
techniques into pissy sitcom English. :-)
(*1) People who have wads of money to spend on VIZ.
(*2) Vigorous (style [of flaming]).
(*3) Cathode(-ray) Fist. First rule of puns: don't try too hard. :-)
Albert Sze-Wei Wang
>>Well, it's a well known fact the man is mac crzay. Buichi Terasawa
>>is also a MAc crzy but the problem is that the man has no talent.
>Talent aside, from what I heard people in Japan think Terasawa is an
>asshole, sunglasses and all. If anything, even assholes can use GUI.
>Great job for Apple! Now if they can come up with something that does
>character recognition and real-time translation.
Nah, they're all jealous of Terasawa. They just can't stand it when someone
is really different than they are. I actually got to meet him and he'd
be right at home in this country. A very nice and generous person. Likes
sake a lot, but I can't say enough good things about who he is as a person.
Terasawa is just different than most Japanese.
Wow, more posts on Dave and Tonghyun's Excellent Newsgroup than on RAM.
I'm impressed!!!
Tonghyun Kim
>
>OSS!! MANGA-BU
:) Here is another one. :)
GIANT MANGA
The brave new world to come!
Thanks to hard works of manga otakings and availibility of more
manga, the western manga fandom has entered an era of prosperity.
But behind the shadow of such glorious peace, there were two forces
fiercely struggling against each other.
The VF (Viz Fire) Organization who thrives to conquer the world by
overloading the world with high price/low quality translated "comics."
On the other hand, the Experts of Manga have gathered and formed
International Manga Orgnization (IMO) to fight against Viz Fire. Among
them, there was a man who commands the mightiest robot in the world. His
name is Chih-Ping Kusama!
CPK: Crush! Giant Manga!
:-) :-) :-)
Tonghyun
david mou
>>IRC!
>
>Then I'll have to deal with a whole new horde of otakus and
>anti-otakus. :-)
But anti-otakus are your friends. Just log-on, whip out couple of editorial
notes and impress them into silence. It's amazing how quiet they (otakus) get
when Hiroshi and Iain get on a roll. I can only watch. ^_^
>Come on, my LD collection is nothing compared to "certain" people.
And AXTV ain't "certain" people, so be quiet and start taping!! This year we
have about 120 hrs on two broadcast tracks. Every 6 1/2 hr tape helps. (Come
to think of it, that sounds like 0083. :)
>No thanks. :-) Even the job of Translation Supervisor alone is too
>much for me...
No no no, let me explain the situation. Besides being a (and likely, 2) GoH's
bodyguard, you are on call for 80% of the panel schedule, you are to bounce back
unwanted Kikuchi questions (until HIS panel), you are to participate in modeling
contest, and you are in line for the AX's leadership should the leaders become
absent or incapacitated (a likely scenario, considering the Defcon 5 in 91); not
to mention being the walking anime database and target of countless "Hey, it's
Tonghyun! Do you know......?". And you have to prepare for the Gundamn panel,
as all eyes will train on the TK vs. JO Gundamn showdown.
And you have a dealer's table, I heard.
I would recommend 16g (not mg, Grams!) of Vitamin-C per day for the month prior
to July 2.
>Of course. Don't you remember joystick like pointing device in
>episode 2 of 0083? :)
You are talking to someone who has the single greatest Gundam poster collection
on Earth, and the originator and perpetuator of the never-ending Gundam Titles
noise thread. OF COURSE I DON'T REMEMBER, DAMN IT!! You think I'm a Goddamn fan
of that show?!
>Quickeys...Don't leave home without it.
Char, "Quick, my system froze! How do I reboot?!"
Amuro, "You mean Anaheim didn't leave you a reset button like mine, MkIIci's?"
>Who knows? Tomino might come up with Anti-Minovski bomb and destroy
>the entire Gundam universe. :-)
When he's done with that novel, he can't stop his tears from rolling. As
Tomino, the creator of the Gundam Universe, is now unemployed.
>Do you REALLY want another Dark Age? :-)
Coming too easily just isn't fun anymore. Manga reads better if you have to
WAIT for it.
<Currently waiting for Pure Shiterune>
>Not very well, thanks.
Just picked up a set of Yami no Purple Eye for $12 today. Sigh..... too easy in
paradise. Oh, did you go to the Costa Mesa Kino's 20% sale on 3/6-3/7? :-P
>I would correct that to "mummy's Touch." :-)
AX seems to be getting yet another character designer. You wonder if somebody
upstairs is reading that same damn Newtype Top 10 list and doing some home
shopping. :-)
>Hmm...I don't quite agree with you. Kujaku-Oh Taimaseiden sucks
>even without meeting any of above requirements.
That is because the above symptoms had already occured in the original Kujaku-oh
series. You only need to suck once; success is fatal.
>Only the fabled Manga-Oh can save the day...
Manga-oh itself is a symbol of duality. It possesses the extreme coolness as
well as the depth of otakuhood. But if I remember correctly manga-oh killed his
sister-lover, anime-oh, in a bid to maintain the Order, before committing
himself. The true heritage of the manga-oh is now unclear, as the descendent
candidates, all shall convene on a fateful July evening, will do mortal combat
until destiny awaits......
As I can only watch.
>>And where's Japan?
>
>Somewhere on moon? :-)
No wonder Afternoons get here so late! Australia must be getting some nice
tides then.
>The Night of Living Otakus...
To Kill an Otaku, An Otaku in Paris, Mad Otaku, Road Otakus, Amazon Otakus in
the Moon........
>>1.5e3 Gundam posters ring any bell?
>
>Not to my ears. :-)
Better get use to it, as you well help me peddle the world's heaviest 5 dollar
bill in AX. :-)
>Dave, you need some sleep. :)
see (short explanation) below. :)
>I've talked with Ricky 3 hours before I wrote that message. :)
Come to think of it, Ricky is in AXTV too. Ricky, if you know what's good for
you, make sure TK makes them tapes!! :-)
>I wouldn't use Korean since CLAMP seem to be interested in Korean
>food and culture. They even did a manga based on a Korean Folklore.
Currently I'm displaying the Twin Kamui shot for the X Calendar (so that I won't
have to Explain to my visiting parent). But as soon as she gets on that plane
to Taiwan, Satsuki is on my wall!
Instead of writing that X Guide, why don't you just go ahead and translate the
picture comment sheet, and scan the whole calendar. From previous post, that's
sign #4. I say the 7th sign will appear before end of 94.
Come to think of it, that kid with a hole through his chest does seem like
Subaru. Personally I see no other functions for the Duklyon & Campus Police
characters in X besides getting killed. But if that's the case, I'll buy that
issue of Asuka.
>It's a fact. Facts can be stranger than fictions.
Look what manga (shojo) can do to your genes as well.
>Takada Akemi also has a younger sister who is an accomplished
>illustrator herself.
Her name please? I may have seen her artbook.
>You haven't seen Giant Robo 2, have you? :)
[Currently gathering camping supplies for 7 days of wilderness in an otaku's
living room, with leaking electric roof.]
>Well, that's still smaller than your poster. :)
50 steps don't laugh at 100 steps, man!
>I'm guilty as charged. :-)
Maybe Kadokawa made those mistakes and BS's on purpose, so purists can buy and
laugh at them. The man may be crazy, but not stupid. :-)
>Forget about the release date. It's something that's almost never
>kept in Japan.
But! But........people in East Coast don't know that. :)
>Well, I mail ordered Bastard! #13 from Asahiya.
You could skip vol. 9-13 and not miss much. The 7 Signs of Bastard! is
complete, and its fate doomed. I think the untold story in Bastard! is actually
better than the real story.
>VERY BAD. Satisfied? :-)
Next time when there's a blow-out sale in any Kinos or Asa, I'll let you know
well ahead of time. Next year. :-) :-)
>Maybe Apple should use Terasawa as a model. "A computer SO EASY and
>USER FRIENDLY that even Terasawa can use!"
"If Terasawa can use Mac, imagine what YOU can do with it!"
>BTW, there are Kanji OCR program and Japanese <=> English
>translation program.
Sure, get me some!
>Tonari no AXTV...
Tonari no Ricky...
>Beyond evil, there is madness. Beyond madness, there lies Dave Mou!
I was 2 picas away from writing a 3rd noise column in previous post, being
inspired by the heroics occuring in r.a.m., and call it Saint Manga. Last
minute sanity kicked in, and many a you, including Goddess Patricia, were
spared. Now is that a thing a madman would do, eh?
Suddenly the S/N ratio in alt.manga increased drastically, and it's most
alarming. This trend shall not continue! Please post flames and noise only, as
all relevant informative and overall constructive messages should be redirected
to rec.arts.manga. Thank you for maintaining the integrity of this newsgroup.
Tonghyun Kim
>
>But anti-otakus are your friends. Just log-on, whip out couple of editorial
>notes and impress them into silence. It's amazing how quiet they (otakus) get
>when Hiroshi and Iain get on a roll. I can only watch. ^_^
I guess you're Anaheim then. :-) So who're these Silent Otakus? :-)
>And AXTV ain't "certain" people, so be quiet and start taping!! This year we
>have about 120 hrs on two broadcast tracks. Every 6 1/2 hr tape helps. (Come
>to think of it, that sounds like 0083. :)
BTW, are subbed stuff acceptable for AXTV? Or only non-subbed stuff
are allowed like last year?
>No no no, let me explain the situation. Besides being a (and likely, 2) GoH's
>bodyguard, you are on call for 80% of the panel schedule, you are to bounce back
>unwanted Kikuchi questions (until HIS panel), you are to participate in modeling
>contest, and you are in line for the AX's leadership should the leaders become
>absent or incapacitated (a likely scenario, considering the Defcon 5 in 91); not
>to mention being the walking anime database and target of countless "Hey, it's
>Tonghyun! Do you know......?". And you have to prepare for the Gundamn panel,
>as all eyes will train on the TK vs. JO Gundamn showdown.
Well, I decided NOT to enter modeling contest and bouncing back
unwanted Kikuchi questions will be Toshi's job. And I think you're
above me in AX hierachy, which means you'll have to take the
leadership, NOT me. :-) As for GunDAMN panel, I'll adjust my
schedule as an interpreter so that it conflicts with the panel. :-)
Phew...I think I succeded in dodging most of your guided missiles. :-)
>And you have a dealer's table, I heard.
Well, I have several people who'll help me out. :)
>I would recommend 16g (not mg, Grams!) of Vitamin-C per day for the month prior
>to July 2.
Don't worry. I survived two issues of UC Herald. :)
>You are talking to someone who has the single greatest Gundam poster collection
>on Earth, and the originator and perpetuator of the never-ending Gundam Titles
>noise thread. OF COURSE I DON'T REMEMBER, DAMN IT!! You think I'm a Goddamn fan
>of that show?!
Well, I was just trying to provoke you. :-) I guess did a gunDAMN
good job. :-)
>Char, "Quick, my system froze! How do I reboot?!"
>Amuro, "You mean Anaheim didn't leave you a reset button like mine, MkIIci's?"
Char, "No. They decided to remove that option from their bottom of
the line models!"
>When he's done with that novel, he can't stop his tears from rolling. As
>Tomino, the creator of the Gundam Universe, is now unemployed.
He would never do that, though. He still has kids to take care of.
:-)
>Coming too easily just isn't fun anymore. Manga reads better if you have to
>WAIT for it.
>
><Currently waiting for Pure Shiterune>
I agree with you on that. Manga shopping has been too painless since
you have discovered the Shamballa of manga fans. :-)
>Just picked up a set of Yami no Purple Eye for $12 today. Sigh..... too easy in
>paradise. Oh, did you go to the Costa Mesa Kino's 20% sale on 3/6-3/7? :-P
Huh? 12 volumes of YNPE for ONLY $12? Where did you get them?
And please tell me about those goddamn sales before they
end!!!!!!!!!
>AX seems to be getting yet another character designer. You wonder if somebody
>upstairs is reading that same damn Newtype Top 10 list and doing some home
>shopping. :-)
Well, you know how much Albert love Lodoss. :) Yuuki is one of my
favorite character designer, too (second only to Takada Akemi).
>That is because the above symptoms had already occured in the original Kujaku-oh
>series. You only need to suck once; success is fatal.
Hmm...I guess then X won't suck until X Taimaseiden. :-)
>Manga-oh itself is a symbol of duality. It possesses the extreme coolness as
>well as the depth of otakuhood. But if I remember correctly manga-oh killed his
>sister-lover, anime-oh, in a bid to maintain the Order, before committing
>himself. The true heritage of the manga-oh is now unclear, as the descendent
>candidates, all shall convene on a fateful July evening, will do mortal combat
>until destiny awaits......
>
>As I can only watch.
The evil plot of Hachi Anime no Roshi suceeds...resulting in the
creation of Dark Anime Mandala. With the death of Manga-Oh, the last
hope for mangakind, the last remaining force of manga fans gather
their force under the Alt.manga.
Will Manga-Oh be able to return from the land of dead to save
the day? Will the Alt.manga able to stop evil Animekashu from
destroying the manga universe? Tune in for the next episode of
Manga-Oh!
>No wonder Afternoons get here so late! Australia must be getting some nice
>tides then.
They stuff colonies with mangas and drop them on Sydney. :-)
>To Kill an Otaku, An Otaku in Paris, Mad Otaku, Road Otakus, Amazon Otakus in
>the Moon........
Stop that!!!!! :)
>Better get use to it, as you well help me peddle the world's heaviest 5 dollar
>bill in AX. :-)
But Rick will be selling your poster for $20 at AX 93, won't he? :)
>Come to think of it, Ricky is in AXTV too. Ricky, if you know what's good for
>you, make sure TK makes them tapes!! :-)
Ricky don't read alt.manga, you know. :-)
>Currently I'm displaying the Twin Kamui shot for the X Calendar (so that I won't
>have to Explain to my visiting parent). But as soon as she gets on that plane
>to Taiwan, Satsuki is on my wall!
I already put Konoe with Yuuto on my wall. :-) Of course, there was
nothing on the wall when my mother was visiting me. :-)
>Instead of writing that X Guide, why don't you just go ahead and translate the
>picture comment sheet, and scan the whole calendar. From previous post, that's
>sign #4. I say the 7th sign will appear before end of 94.
And suddenly the water start dripping from the ceiling...
>Come to think of it, that kid with a hole through his chest does seem like
>Subaru. Personally I see no other functions for the Duklyon & Campus Police
>characters in X besides getting killed. But if that's the case, I'll buy that
>issue of Asuka.
Dunno. Who knows? Those jokers might prove to be important
characters. At least they aren't half as silly as Alicegawa Sorata.
:-)
>Look what manga (shojo) can do to your genes as well.
Not as bad as 3000 Gray Radiation. :-)
>Her name please? I may have seen her artbook.
I think it's Moemi.
>[Currently gathering camping supplies for 7 days of wilderness in an otaku's
>living room, with leaking electric roof.]
Otakulabor P-8: 7 Days of Water.
>50 steps don't laugh at 100 steps, man!
BA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
>Maybe Kadokawa made those mistakes and BS's on purpose, so purists can buy and
>laugh at them. The man may be crazy, but not stupid. :-)
Well, I don't think Haruki Kadokawa actually reads Newtype...
>But! But........people in East Coast don't know that. :)
Really? That's a news to me! :-)
>You could skip vol. 9-13 and not miss much. The 7 Signs of Bastard! is
>complete, and its fate doomed. I think the untold story in Bastard! is actually
>better than the real story.
Actually I liked vol. 11-12 better than any of the previous volumes.
I don't know about 13 since I haven't read it yet.
>Next time when there's a blow-out sale in any Kinos or Asa, I'll let you know
>well ahead of time. Next year. :-) :-)
I guess you haven't reliaze what a mad manga-oh is capable of doing.
>"If Terasawa can use Mac, imagine what YOU can do with it!"
Bingo!
>Sure, get me some!
Sure, just give me $3000. :-)
>Tonari no Ricky...
Ricky's delivery service...
>I was 2 picas away from writing a 3rd noise column in previous post, being
>inspired by the heroics occuring in r.a.m., and call it Saint Manga. Last
>minute sanity kicked in, and many a you, including Goddess Patricia, were
>spared. Now is that a thing a madman would do, eh?
Don't mention that! Someone might actually start writing SAint Manga
Saga! :-)
>Suddenly the S/N ratio in alt.manga increased drastically, and it's most
>alarming. This trend shall not continue! Please post flames and noise only, as
>all relevant informative and overall constructive messages should be redirected
>to rec.arts.manga. Thank you for maintaining the integrity of this newsgroup.
Wake up, Dave. :) RAM is already beyond hope...
Tonghyun
Jeff Yang
a mecha when you splash him with cold water, turns back into a human when
you splash him with hot, and fights an unending battle against
rust.
david mou
Silence too many to count. For some bizarre and unexplained reasons, they
blame me for the degradation of the level of conversation.
And I specifically told them, "I just like to watch."
>BTW, are subbed stuff acceptable for AXTV? Or only non-subbed stuff
>are allowed like last year?
Oh coolness. 13 hrs! More the better. Make sure they're Gundamned til
they barf.
>Well, I decided NOT to enter modeling contest and bouncing back
>unwanted Kikuchi questions will be Toshi's job. And I think you're
>above me in AX hierachy, which means you'll have to take the
>leadership, NOT me. :-) As for GunDAMN panel, I'll adjust my
>schedule as an interpreter so that it conflicts with the panel. :-)
>Phew...I think I succeded in dodging most of your guided missiles. :-)
As the translator coordinator, you realize the kind of situation better
than I do. Suppose an otaku, for some reason, decides to have a shooting
spree in Parc Oakland. The ratio of translators and GoH's are such that,
when the bullets fly, the translators will be the last ones to hit the
floor. Now who, between us (yeah, me and you = rest of a.m.) has more
experience in model building and translations (and don't turn your head
when people are talking to you!!). Good, glad to see you volunteer. Now
the Gundam panel has been painstakingly adjusted so that it will not
conflict with other GoH's, and I'm sure a few trouble makers are more than
willing to track you down. "Sorry for the late start of this Gundam
panel, as we are 'inviting' one of the panelist right now." <from
distance> "No! No more ZZ!! Aaaah!". As for Toshi, "Oh look, an UFO!"
"Where?" <clang!> "Eh, Tonghyun. Toshi just passed out from stress.
Would you please take his place? BTW, Kikuchi-sensei wants a tour of the
hotel." I, on the other hand, will be stoked along with the rest of AX's
protocols.
My missles detect Minovski Particles.
>Well, I have several people who'll help me out. :)
As in [This is a self-service table. Please leave what you think the
item's worth in the jar, and leave the jar if you take its contents.
Thank you.]
>Don't worry. I survived two issues of UC Herald. :)
Talk to Ricky. He tried to survive me.
>Well, I was just trying to provoke you. :-) I guess did a gunDAMN
>good job. :-)
Provoke? Moi? (see below)
>Char, "No. They decided to remove that option from their bottom of
>the line models!"
Camile, "This little newtype has a system crash. <bang>, this little
newtype ran out of ammo <bang>, this little newtype has a meltdown <bang>,
and this little newtype has his engine blown <bang> Aaaw, ran out of
little newtypes."
>He would never do that, though. He still has kids to take care of.
For his 20+ years of service for Kadokawa, the only thing he gets from the
company is a lifetime subscription of Newtype, and a rare, confiscated
poster from Manga no M@$i. I would shed a tear for that too.
>I agree with you on that. Manga shopping has been too painless since
>you have discovered the Shamballa of manga fans. :-)
Naaw, 40 min is still too far. CM Kino is on my way to school. Did I
mention they just had a 20% sale for Sat and Sun only, on all books? So,
how's going in SD?
>Huh? 12 volumes of YNPE for ONLY $12? Where did you get them?
Let you know where I got them? HA!!
>And please tell me about those goddamn sales before they
>end!!!!!!!!!
Now now, you sound just like I did a while back...... :-P
>Well, you know how much Albert love Lodoss. :) Yuuki is one of my
>favorite character designer, too (second only to Takada Akemi).
Yuuki who? :-) And Albert, want to hear that High Elf joke again?
Really, for the sake of yourself, the Con, if not this country, you should
tell yourself before going to bed each night, "Kikuchi is the greatest.
Kikuchi is the best. Kikuchi is God." I know it's hard, but at least
try.
>Hmm...I guess then X won't suck until X Taimaseiden. :-)
Start selling your calendar when Chun.... Elii shows up in the story.
>The evil plot of Hachi Anime no Roshi suceeds...resulting in the
:
:
>destroying the manga universe? Tune in for the next episode of
>Manga-Oh!
Now look who's calling who mad?
>They stuff colonies with mangas and drop them on Sydney. :-)
Yeah, I read it on the papers too. Killed 20,000 this time, despite city
wide blackout. You wonder who in Sydney wants them damn Afternoons that
badly........
>Stop that!!!!! :)
I merely scratched the skin. Who were the ones kept on picking the clot?!
:-P
>But Rick will be selling your poster for $20 at AX 93, won't he? :)
So they'll arrest him, not me. ;-)
>Ricky don't read alt.manga, you know. :-)
Oh yeah?! Ricky has an answering machine, you know. ^_^
>I already put Konoe with Yuuto on my wall. :-) Of course, there was
>nothing on the wall when my mother was visiting me. :-)
"What strange calendar you have there, my son. It has the same big X for
all 12 months."
"Yeah Mom, got it from Museum of Modern Art in Tokyo. Cool isn't it?"
>And suddenly the water start dripping from the ceiling...
Tonghyun of the Leaky Roof, what ever happened to the glorious days when
thou sayest, "Hey dudes, gif or jpg? Make up your minds!"?
>Dunno. Who knows? Those jokers might prove to be important
>characters. At least they aren't half as silly as Alicegawa Sorata.
Donno. Having Duylyon in X is about as crazy as having Compiler in Mobius
Klein. Then again, judging from f.r.c., when you're really short on ideas
(or designs) craziness may turn into reality. Asamiya may have degraded
the designs in Assembler 0X so he can borrow the older designs in the
newer series. The man, in my book, has just dropped another bit. :-P
>.... radiation.
What were we talking about? Oh, Kusunoki and her sister. Do you know....
yeah, do you know, heheh. Do you know how many projects Kusunoki is
currently working on? I'm counting 3 series now, unless she's crazy
enough to tackle short pieces as well.
>I think it's Moemi.
Akemi and Moemi. Now that IS corny. :-)
>BA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
When you reach 2 million pages of manga, give me a call. :-P
>Well, I don't think Haruki Kadokawa actually reads Newtype...
Then the man is REALLY smarter than I thought.
>Really? That's a news to me! :-)
For their information, the amount of manga stored in Torrence Asa is about
an acre worth of Rain Forest. The clerk next to you stocks the shelves
faster than you can tachiyume. And there're so many obvious Ameritakus
there that you can indulge in complete privacy. It's so perfect it can't
last. When the Earthquake hits it'll be the first to burn down (or
plundered for what it's worth. I don't have to tell you when the Big One
hits, do I? :).
>Actually I liked vol. 11-12 better than any of the previous volumes.
>I don't know about 13 since I haven't read it yet.
The story didn't go anywhere. If anything more was revealed about the
past than killing the enemy at hand. The final battle has yet started,
and already it seems to be 2 vols long. Abageil turns out to be one of
the 10 Wise Guys, and DS was a 400 year old genetic experiment by them.
Not going anywhere, but amusing.
>I guess you haven't reliaze what a mad manga-oh is capable of doing.
Hearing TK saying he's manga deprived is like watching Donald Trump on TV
calling himself broke. You can always go back and read your manga archive
page 435,087 - 435,223, can't you? :-P How's this for an exercise? Add
up all the items in your apartment that has a Yen price listed. Will it
match your estimate?? I'm working on mine, actually. :-)
>Sure, just give me $3000. :-)
Will you accept 210 pounds of heavy duty, water resistant, and brilliantly
colored multi-purpose paper tiles?
>Ricky's delivery service...
Ricky of the Golden Triangle
>Don't mention that! Someone might actually start writing SAint Manga
>Saga! :-)
Why, I was going to have a couple of you bleeding on the ground, crying,
"Iain..... Iain....." Sanity kicked in, nonetheless.
>Wake up, Dave. :) RAM is already beyond hope...
Is a.m. better? Just when you think you've reached the depths of hell,
something beneath you hollers. ^_^;;
God damn this thread is getting longer by the days.
Chun-Li
>In article <46...@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
>writes:
>>I guess you're Anaheim then. :-) So who're these Silent Otakus? :-)
>
>Silence too many to count. For some bizarre and unexplained reasons, they
>blame me for the degradation of the level of conversation.
>
>And I specifically told them, "I just like to watch."
This is a known fact, that he likes to watch....
He proved that time after time on IRC....
hmm this should be a quote on my .plan
Hmmmm, have you guys heard of email?
Tonghyun you must try IRC , you would be enlighten how D.M. is....
(I am so privlage..and he is my Onisama #3 or is it 4?)
--
gai...@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu-- Join the Otaku Generation!!!---------
Don't forget to smile!..Watch MST3K...Always keep a sketchbook handy....
Listen to U2....Act like a child, but be responsible like an adult.....
and keep dreaming....
David Chiu
>Tonghyun you must try IRC , you would be enlighten how D.M. is....
>(I am so privlage..and he is my Onisama #3 or is it 4?)
Geez, just how many brothers do you have CL?
david mou
As many as her bodily cavities?
[Aaah, what have I done?!?! I just IRCed on a.m.]
Chun-Li
Uh...10 and counting..also one ototo, one sensei and a aneki.....
What a family tree, eh?
.......
Chun-Li
>In article <1nh0ht$q...@agate.berkeley.edu> ch...@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU (David Chiu) writes:
>>In article <1993Mar9.0...@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> gai...@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu (Chun-Li) writes:
>>
>>>Tonghyun you must try IRC , you would be enlighten how D.M. is....
>>>(I am so privlage..and he is my Onisama #3 or is it 4?)
>>
>>Geez, just how many brothers do you have CL?
>
>
>As many as her bodily cavities?
>
>[Aaah, what have I done?!?! I just IRCed on a.m.]
>
Wow, you are getting good without typing with your hands....;^P
ahem
Tonghyun Kim
>blame me for the degradation of the level of conversation.
Don't people always do that? "It's all Dave's fault!!!!!!" :-)
Too many Daves, BTW. :-)
>And I specifically told them, "I just like to watch."
Are you a watchmaker? :-)
>Oh coolness. 13 hrs! More the better. Make sure they're Gundamned til
>they barf.
Well, if it's OK to show subbed stuff on AXTV, I think I can provide
at least of stuff.
>As the translator coordinator, you realize the kind of situation better
>than I do. Suppose an otaku, for some reason, decides to have a shooting
>spree in Parc Oakland. The ratio of translators and GoH's are such that,
>when the bullets fly, the translators will be the last ones to hit the
>floor. Now who, between us (yeah, me and you = rest of a.m.) has more
>experience in model building and translations (and don't turn your head
>when people are talking to you!!). Good, glad to see you volunteer. Now
>the Gundam panel has been painstakingly adjusted so that it will not
>conflict with other GoH's, and I'm sure a few trouble makers are more than
>willing to track you down. "Sorry for the late start of this Gundam
>panel, as we are 'inviting' one of the panelist right now." <from
>distance> "No! No more ZZ!! Aaaah!". As for Toshi, "Oh look, an UFO!"
>"Where?" <clang!> "Eh, Tonghyun. Toshi just passed out from stress.
>Would you please take his place? BTW, Kikuchi-sensei wants a tour of the
>hotel." I, on the other hand, will be stoked along with the rest of AX's
>protocols.
Well, don't forget there is another Translation Supervisor, Taka. :)
Being more experienced in convention works than I am, I'm sure Taka
will handle the crisis. :) As for Kikuchi, I fear that there will be
lots of interpreters who'll be glad to take Toshi's place. :-)
More experience in translation? Me??? I'm lost here.
BTW, I notice that you omitted "n" after Gundam. :-)
>My missles detect Minovski Particles.
I didn't use M particles. I casted "invisibility" spell of Marici.
:-)
>As in [This is a self-service table. Please leave what you think the
>item's worth in the jar, and leave the jar if you take its contents.
>Thank you.]
Well, I'll have three people who'll help me with the table. :)
>Talk to Ricky. He tried to survive me.
Did he succeed?
>Camile, "This little newtype has a system crash. <bang>, this little
>newtype ran out of ammo <bang>, this little newtype has a meltdown <bang>,
>and this little newtype has his engine blown <bang> Aaaw, ran out of
>little newtypes."
Amuro, "Didn't I tell you not to run Macintosh software on Amiga?"
>For his 20+ years of service for Kadokawa, the only thing he gets from the
>company is a lifetime subscription of Newtype, and a rare, confiscated
>poster from Manga no M@$i. I would shed a tear for that too.
Such is life...Imagine what'll happen to Kikuchi 15 years later....
>Naaw, 40 min is still too far. CM Kino is on my way to school. Did I
>mention they just had a 20% sale for Sat and Sun only, on all books? So,
>how's going in SD?
Very bad, thank you. Argh! San Diego needs a branch of Yaohan!
>Let you know where I got them? HA!!
Dave, you're testing my patience here.
>Now now, you sound just like I did a while back...... :-P
Did I?
>Yuuki who? :-) And Albert, want to hear that High Elf joke again?
So what's with that High Elf joke?
>Really, for the sake of yourself, the Con, if not this country, you should
>tell yourself before going to bed each night, "Kikuchi is the greatest.
>Kikuchi is the best. Kikuchi is God." I know it's hard, but at least
>try.
Thanks for the advice. But I can't lie to my feelings.
Falling Down II: AX93
>Start selling your calendar when Chun.... Elii shows up in the story.
That's assuming that she'll survive more than an episode. :-)
>Now look who's calling who mad?
I guess I've been playing Civilizations too long...
>Yeah, I read it on the papers too. Killed 20,000 this time, despite city
>wide blackout. You wonder who in Sydney wants them damn Afternoons that
>badly........
Only 20000 this time? I guess they got real lucky this time. I heard
it was more like 100000 last time. But as long as Iain can get his
Afternoon... :-) :-) :-)
>I merely scratched the skin. Who were the ones kept on picking the clot?!
>:-P
Beats me. :-)
>So they'll arrest him, not me. ;-)
Taiho shichauzo!
>Oh yeah?! Ricky has an answering machine, you know. ^_^
So what does that have to do with this? :-)
>"What strange calendar you have there, my son. It has the same big X for
>all 12 months."
>
>"Yeah Mom, got it from Museum of Modern Art in Tokyo. Cool isn't it?"
Well, she's used to seeing weirder stuff in my room. :-)
>Tonghyun of the Leaky Roof, what ever happened to the glorious days when
>thou sayest, "Hey dudes, gif or jpg? Make up your minds!"?
Sorry, I only accept JPEG. BTW, did you know that Eamon has a H BBS
up in Bay Area?
>Donno. Having Duylyon in X is about as crazy as having Compiler in Mobius
>Klein. Then again, judging from f.r.c., when you're really short on ideas
>(or designs) craziness may turn into reality. Asamiya may have degraded
>the designs in Assembler 0X so he can borrow the older designs in the
>newer series. The man, in my book, has just dropped another bit. :-P
Well, Tezuka has done the same thing over and over but that didn't
seem to have damaged even a bit. Oh well, Kikuchi doesn't have even
a 1/1000000th of Tezuka's talents after all.
>What were we talking about? Oh, Kusunoki and her sister. Do you know....
>yeah, do you know, heheh. Do you know how many projects Kusunoki is
>currently working on? I'm counting 3 series now, unless she's crazy
>enough to tackle short pieces as well.
I have a feeling that she's overworking herself with three mangas
running at once. I guess people haven't learned their lessons from
Asamiya case.
>Akemi and Moemi. Now that IS corny. :-)
Well, many names are corny.
>When you reach 2 million pages of manga, give me a call. :-P
Expect a call from me sometime next week. :-)
>Then the man is REALLY smarter than I thought.
Or the man is illiterate. :-)
>For their information, the amount of manga stored in Torrence Asa is about
>an acre worth of Rain Forest. The clerk next to you stocks the shelves
>faster than you can tachiyume. And there're so many obvious Ameritakus
>there that you can indulge in complete privacy. It's so perfect it can't
>last. When the Earthquake hits it'll be the first to burn down (or
>plundered for what it's worth. I don't have to tell you when the Big One
>hits, do I? :).
Who cares about rain forest? :-) Only thing that matter to a
manga-oh is his manga. :-)
Don't forget that once Torrence Asahiya burns down, you can no
longer tease me. :-)
>Hearing TK saying he's manga deprived is like watching Donald Trump on TV
>calling himself broke. You can always go back and read your manga archive
>page 435,087 - 435,223, can't you? :-P How's this for an exercise? Add
>up all the items in your apartment that has a Yen price listed. Will it
>match your estimate?? I'm working on mine, actually. :-)
Dunno. I lost track of it a long time ago.
BTW, what I meant by "manga deprived" is that I'm deprived of new
manga. As a matter of fact, I have consumed less than 3000 pages of
new manga during last 4 weeks and that far below the minimum
requirement of 10000 pages. :(
>Will you accept 210 pounds of heavy duty, water resistant, and brilliantly
>colored multi-purpose paper tiles?
No thank you.
>Ricky of the Golden Triangle
Golden Trangle?
>Why, I was going to have a couple of you bleeding on the ground, crying,
>"Iain..... Iain....." Sanity kicked in, nonetheless.
Have Iain finished AMG! doujinshi?
>Is a.m. better? Just when you think you've reached the depths of hell,
>something beneath you hollers. ^_^;;
At least I don't have read about Viz*****.
>God damn this thread is getting longer by the days.
Don't blame it on me! :)
Tonghyun
david mou
Dave? Which Dave? If people say, "It's all Tonghyun's fault!!" they
wouldn't be looking at me.
>Too many Daves, BTW. :-)
You want a David Panel?
Reminds me of an earlier conversation you had with Pat. "Tonghyun is
my given name, and Kim is my last name. I don't like people calling
me by my last name."
muahahahaaha..... <sigh>. the mailing list days.
>Well, if it's OK to show subbed stuff on AXTV, I think I can provide
>at least of stuff.
As usual, the upstairs can only broadcast untitled stuff, while
downstairs is able to show the subbed. If I didn't explain myself
clearly last time, AXTV is counting the next 227 combined hours on
you, too.
>Well, don't forget there is another Translation Supervisor, Taka. :)
>Being more experienced in convention works than I am, I'm sure Taka
>will handle the crisis. :) As for Kikuchi, I fear that there will be
>lots of interpreters who'll be glad to take Toshi's place. :-)
1) stoke Taka
2) you've just been 'volunteered' to accept the most glamorous duty
assignment.
>BTW, I notice that you omitted "n" after Gundam. :-)
Woops, Gundamned!
>Well, I'll have three people who'll help me with the table. :)
[.... and be sure to tip those three at the table if you have them
move heavy objects.]
>Did he succeed?
Donno, but Ricky must be saying some pretty nice things about me when
I'm not listening. :-)
>Amuro, "Didn't I tell you not to run Macintosh software on Amiga?"
Good one! :-) Let's end that thread on a high note.
>Such is life...Imagine what'll happen to Kikuchi 15 years later....
A homeless in a park peddling character sketches...?
>Very bad, thank you. Argh! San Diego needs a branch of Yaohan!
Unlike the sunny SD with fare weathers and high surfs, L.A. has the
greatest collection of closetteers in California. And being the
cultural desert it is, the local Japanese (also the largest bunch in
the state) has nothing better to do than sit home and read books or
watch videos. Hence the flourishing otaku businesses. Depressing,
isn't it.
>Dave, you're testing my patience here.
Hmm... time to check out that place again for new stuffs.....
>So what's with that High Elf joke?
Make Albert tell it. It's more fun that way.
>Falling Down II: AX93
The Kikuchi Day
>>Start selling your calendar when Chun.... Elii shows up in the
story.
>
>That's assuming that she'll survive more than an episode. :-)
7 Sacrifices......
>Only 20000 this time? I guess they got real lucky this time. I heard
>it was more like 100000 last time. But as long as Iain can get his
>Afternoon... :-) :-) :-)
Which is the precise reason why those Amazon Japanese in the Moon's
been beefing up this magazine. Massive mangas makes better killer
projectiles. Perhaps I should set up my own network; L.A. has too
many people anyways.
btw, I heard the Japanese are making incendirary Comic Frontiers.
>So what does that have to do with this? :-)
Beats me. Humans aren't designed to follow more than 3 threads at a
time.
>Well, she's used to seeing weirder stuff in my room. :-)
"That's a very cute sailor girl poster you have on the ceiling, my
son. Too bad the roof leaked a big spot on her skirt."
"Yes, mother....." -_-
>Sorry, I only accept JPEG. BTW, did you know that Eamon has a H BBS
>up in Bay Area?
The most anticipated Anime BBS in California history? Sure. Have
yet to call it thou. ^_^;; If anything, at least you can crank out
the two images CLAMP-doesn't-want-your-parents-to-see and show some
support to Doki^2 Waku^2.
>Well, Tezuka has done the same thing over and over but that didn't
>seem to have damaged even a bit. Oh well, Kikuchi doesn't have even
>a 1/1000000th of Tezuka's talents after all.
A billionith, you mean?
To summon the ghost of Tezuka to attend AX will be the ultimate coup.
It's up to you now, Tonghyun, to locate qualified psychics and find
appropriate spells. Maybe he'll bring Hudini along.
>I have a feeling that she's overworking herself with three mangas
>running at once. I guess people haven't learned their lessons from
>Asamiya case.
When you have it, flaunt it. If you don't, flop it. ^_^
>>When you reach 2 million pages of manga, give me a call. :-P
>
>Expect a call from me sometime next week. :-)
You? In SD?? HA!! Don't make me laugh.
>Or the man is illiterate. :-)
Newtype is ..... colorful.
>Who cares about rain forest? :-) Only thing that matter to a
>manga-oh is his manga. :-)
Well, it matters to me. I get extra pleasure reading mangas made
from Rain Forest than recycled Japanese bathroom papers.....
Actually, the pleasures are comparable.
>Don't forget that once Torrence Asahiya burns down, you can no
>longer tease me. :-)
"Tonghyun! Guess what I just did to Torrence Asa!? Yeah, my little
car was so loaded it barely made home. Oh, and how are you doing in
SD?"
>BTW, what I meant by "manga deprived" is that I'm deprived of new
>manga. As a matter of fact, I have consumed less than 3000 pages of
>new manga during last 4 weeks and that far below the minimum
>requirement of 10000 pages. :(
Tsk, tsk. No wonder you're making nonsense on a.m. You haven't been
taking the RDA manga dosage like a good boy. If your diet isn't
corrected immediately we may actually hear from you, for the first
time, in AX, "Say what?"
And look at Iain. The guy is so well nurished he's now whipping
asses left and right on RA$. That place now is too rough a
neighborhood for me to hang around. A.M. is turning into a home for
the has-beens and the meek. ;_;
>Golden Trangle?
You're in it too. The place so overwhelmed by upper-mid White
suburbanites it's MacDonalds looks better than Irvine's city hall.
>Have Iain finished AMG! doujinshi?
Are you in a hurry? ^_^
>At least I don't have read about Viz*****.
Hey! Viz are good people!! How can anything so colorful be evil?
God damn this thread you help perpetuating is getting longer by the
days.
Iain Sinclair
>But as long as Iain can get his Afternoon... :-) :-) :-)
Well, the net gets to know everything I get to know, as soon as I know it.
That's not worth much, but worth some kind of casualties, surely. :-)
dnab:
>>"Yeah Mom, got it from Museum of Modern Art in Tokyo. Cool isn't it?"
BTW, Sydney museum of contemporary art has a semi-permanent manga
exhibit. :-) I'm still looking for a copy of "Nihon Youkai *" they
have.
>I have a feeling that she's overworking herself with three mangas
>running at once. I guess people haven't learned their lessons from
>Asamiya case.
Well, some mangakas have taken on at least three simultaneous
projects and survived. What lessons should we learn from Asamiya's
case? :-)
>Have Iain finished AMG! doujinshi?
I just finished Ah! My Gundam, which is the feasibility study for
K1's BS. :-) And that was only 1 page of script. (Hey, I only
promised that the art, not the productivity, would be up to Japanese
standards. :-)
K1's BS will take a long time, since I have a massive workload in
my last semester (due to repeating subjects failed during the battle
for rec.arts.VIZ). But I think it's good for Dave to have a taste
of what he's getting. As he said on IRC, "you wonder how Koike and
Ikegami manage to work together without killing each other". :-)
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will soon be. Yes, She will be right here. She will take you on.
She, though may be sour!!
Patrick Lee
>are allowed like last year?
>
can be submitted at the convention. If it passes certain quailty
standards we'll show it in a downstairs theatre. No subtitled material is
being broadcast over the hotel cable.
>>I would recommend 16g (not mg, Grams!) of Vitamin-C per day for the
>>month prior to July 2.
Of course megadoses of Vit-C can cause strokes...:-)
[misc Dave and Tonghyn stuff deleted]
And you call all that stuff signal? ^_^
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VERITAS Software Bideo Heika - Expo '93
"Quarrel, I will back you." - W. Shakespeare
Tonghyun Kim
>
>Well, the net gets to know everything I get to know, as soon as I know it.
>That's not worth much, but worth some kind of casualties, surely. :-)
Yeah, but we DON'T get to see what you get to see! :-) I haven't
been able to get Afternoon for quite a while. I guess it's about
time I raid Dave's home. :-)
>BTW, Sydney museum of contemporary art has a semi-permanent manga
>exhibit. :-) I'm still looking for a copy of "Nihon Youkai *" they
>have.
I guess you want a reference on Japanese demons and monsters. :)
>Well, some mangakas have taken on at least three simultaneous
>projects and survived. What lessons should we learn from Asamiya's
>case? :-)
In ancient times, mangakas used to do several different titles
simultaneously but I don't think anyone in recent years has survived
3 simultaneous projects without having serious problems.
>I just finished Ah! My Gundam, which is the feasibility study for
>K1's BS. :-) And that was only 1 page of script. (Hey, I only
>promised that the art, not the productivity, would be up to Japanese
>standards. :-)
Maybe you are working with Hagiwara's standard. :-)
>K1's BS will take a long time, since I have a massive workload in
>my last semester (due to repeating subjects failed during the battle
>for rec.arts.VIZ). But I think it's good for Dave to have a taste
>of what he's getting. As he said on IRC, "you wonder how Koike and
>Ikegami manage to work together without killing each other". :-)
I hope you and Dave don't kill each other. :-)
Tonghyun
Tonghyun Kim
>
>Dave? Which Dave? If people say, "It's all Tonghyun's fault!!" they
>wouldn't be looking at me.
Well, I don't IRC. :-)
>You want a David Panel?
Yes, I do. One more panel for you to take care of (Or is Albert?).
:-)
>Reminds me of an earlier conversation you had with Pat. "Tonghyun is
>my given name, and Kim is my last name. I don't like people calling
>me by my last name."
There are too many Kims. You know that roughly 40% of Korean are
Kims.
>muahahahaaha..... <sigh>. the mailing list days.
Ano hi ni kaeritai...
>As usual, the upstairs can only broadcast untitled stuff, while
>downstairs is able to show the subbed. If I didn't explain myself
>clearly last time, AXTV is counting the next 227 combined hours on
>you, too.
No subbed stuff on AXTV. Oh well, then forget it. My VCRs have been
abused beyond their limits already.
>1) stoke Taka
>2) you've just been 'volunteered' to accept the most glamorous duty
>assignment.
Keep dreamin', Dave. :) BTW, do you know anyone who is willing to
work as interpreter at AX 93? I think we're in a serious shortage of
interpreters.
>[.... and be sure to tip those three at the table if you have them
>move heavy objects.]
Well, I don't have anything heavy to sell. :-)
>Donno, but Ricky must be saying some pretty nice things about me when
>I'm not listening. :-)
At least you're aware of your sins. :-)
>A homeless in a park peddling character sketches...?
Saruman...
>Unlike the sunny SD with fare weathers and high surfs, L.A. has the
>greatest collection of closetteers in California. And being the
>cultural desert it is, the local Japanese (also the largest bunch in
>the state) has nothing better to do than sit home and read books or
>watch videos. Hence the flourishing otaku businesses. Depressing,
>isn't it.
Hmm...that's very interesting theory. Do you have any proofs to back
up your theory? :-)
>Hmm... time to check out that place again for new stuffs.....
I'll get my sweet revenge pretty soon...
>Make Albert tell it. It's more fun that way.
I don't think Albert has time to read our excellent newsgroup. :-)
>Which is the precise reason why those Amazon Japanese in the Moon's
>been beefing up this magazine. Massive mangas makes better killer
>projectiles. Perhaps I should set up my own network; L.A. has too
>many people anyways.
Yeah, Afternoon are potentially dangerous objects. :-) Dave, why
don't you hand me you Afternoons so that you can sleep safely
without worrying about stacks of Afternoons collapsing on you? :-)
>btw, I heard the Japanese are making incendirary Comic Frontiers.
For what?
>"That's a very cute sailor girl poster you have on the ceiling, my
>son. Too bad the roof leaked a big spot on her skirt."
>
>"Yes, mother....." -_-
Well, I don't have any Sailor Moon poster in my room, although I
have Vajra-Dhatu and Gharba Dhatu mandala hanging on my wall.
>The most anticipated Anime BBS in California history? Sure. Have
>yet to call it thou. ^_^;; If anything, at least you can crank out
>the two images CLAMP-doesn't-want-your-parents-to-see and show some
>support to Doki^2 Waku^2.
They're too big to scan. I guess I better upgrade my computer's RAM
to 20 MB...
>A billionith, you mean?
I stand corrected. :)
>To summon the ghost of Tezuka to attend AX will be the ultimate coup.
>It's up to you now, Tonghyun, to locate qualified psychics and find
>appropriate spells. Maybe he'll bring Hudini along.
Om amogha Vairocana maha mudra mani padma jvala prvartaya hum...
>When you have it, flaunt it. If you don't, flop it. ^_^
Beyond Kikuchi, there is Tomino... :-)
>You? In SD?? HA!! Don't make me laugh.
Well, stuff I ordered from Asahiya just arrived. (^_^)
>Newtype is ..... colorful.
But the man still cannot *read*.
>Well, it matters to me. I get extra pleasure reading mangas made
>from Rain Forest than recycled Japanese bathroom papers.....
>Actually, the pleasures are comparable.
More pleasure you get, the more damage you do to the environmrnt...
:-)
>"Tonghyun! Guess what I just did to Torrence Asa!? Yeah, my little
>car was so loaded it barely made home. Oh, and how are you doing in
>SD?"
Too late pal, I'm recharged. :)
>Tsk, tsk. No wonder you're making nonsense on a.m. You haven't been
>taking the RDA manga dosage like a good boy. If your diet isn't
>corrected immediately we may actually hear from you, for the first
>time, in AX, "Say what?"
Do I sound better now? :)
>And look at Iain. The guy is so well nurished he's now whipping
>asses left and right on RA$. That place now is too rough a
>neighborhood for me to hang around. A.M. is turning into a home for
>the has-beens and the meek. ;_;
Well, I had no problem with my supply of anime. I guess that's why I
keep babbling in RAA. :-)
>You're in it too. The place so overwhelmed by upper-mid White
>suburbanites it's MacDonalds looks better than Irvine's city hall.
Well, I think that's a waste of money.
>Are you in a hurry? ^_^
Not really. :)
>Hey! Viz are good people!! How can anything so colorful be evil?
Yeah, they are so good that they're BAD. :-)
>God damn this thread you help perpetuating is getting longer by the
>days.
You started it! :)
Tonghyun
david mou
Little do you know, you're effectively doing so right now.
Or do people actually check a.m. for new messages? :-P
>>You want a David Panel?
>
>Yes, I do. One more panel for you to take care of (Or is Albert?).
Just for hell of it, I checked AX PR#1 for David's. Too many. ^^;;;;
>There are too many Kims. You know that roughly 40% of Korean are
>Kims.
True to point. Not all Hiroshi's are in love with their sisters, either.
At least in Korea, you can be an open otaku and not bring shame to the
family name.
>Ano hi ni kaeritai...
^yo
If I hadn't deleted them, I think OCF still has some old a.m. articles from
the golden days. Things from colorizings to r.a.m. vs r.a.c.m. to Goddess
Worshipper to "As Kim said...." "Don't call me Kim!".
Yeah, back then people had informative posts about interesting topics.
Unlike recent days when bored otakus just exchange open noise mails and
wasting bandwidth, if not tax money. How pathetic. ^_^
>No subbed stuff on AXTV. Oh well, then forget it. My VCRs have been
>abused beyond their limits already.
VCR(S)?! I thought you only have ONE working VCR. You mean you got
yourself a new one and didn't tell me about it?! tsk tsk.
[AXTV's 'surprise' raid turns into bloody siege as TK, self proclaimed
manga-oh, refuses to surrender until he sees a sign from Tomino.]
>Keep dreamin', Dave. :) BTW, do you know anyone who is willing to
>work as interpreter at AX 93? I think we're in a serious shortage of
>interpreters.
Keep dreaming, Tonghyun. That sounds like Nazi's last call to arms. "Our
country needs you. All our best men were killed in battle." :-P
>Well, I don't have anything heavy to sell. :-)
I'm on verge of unloading 1/4 of my mangas because (^_^;;) I'm running out
of living space (it can happen in America). People can get one free with
every illegal poster purchased. In fact, if they take 10+ posters they can
have one of my LDs too.
>At least you're aware of your sins. :-)
And every word you say here, shall and will be used against you in the court
of law.......
>Saruman...
Saru demo kakederu Asamiya manga kyoushi.
>Hmm...that's very interesting theory. Do you have any proofs to back
>up your theory? :-)
Hey, I live in Irvine.........
>I'll get my sweet revenge pretty soon...
Like I'm about to tell the world my secret manga hole in L.A.
>I don't think Albert has time to read our excellent newsgroup. :-)
Okay, it comes like this. anonymous IRC chatting....
"What color, you think, is Deedlit's underwear?"
"I don't think she has any."
"...... (punchline not suitable for general audience. ask Albert.)"
>Yeah, Afternoon are potentially dangerous objects. :-) Dave, why
>don't you hand me you Afternoons so that you can sleep safely
>without worrying about stacks of Afternoons collapsing on you? :-)
What?! And have them collapse on you, the last candidate for reincarnation
of manga-oh? You worry about your Sundays and I'll worry about my
Afternoons.
... and there you sounded like Iain (before he went on his Afternoon
crusade, at cost of 350,000 lives and mounting).
>For what?
You know you get too much out of Afternoon when you
(1) have it fall on your head, and killing you.
(2) have it explode in your face, and killing you.
(3) have it collapse gravationally, unleasing thermonuclear heat, and
killing you.
(4) find a hand clinching a used bathroom tissue enclosed.
>Well, I don't have any Sailor Moon poster in my room, although I
>have Vajra-Dhatu and Gharba Dhatu mandala hanging on my wall.
Are they wet between their pants too?
>They're too big to scan. I guess I better upgrade my computer's RAM
>to 20 MB...
You could always scan in piecemeal fashion. Besides, the 'regions of
interest' can fit quite well on a typical legal flatbed scanner. No more
excuses, unless your top of line Apple has no MMU and can't do virtual
memory. :-P
>>To summon the ghost of Tezuka to attend AX will be the ultimate coup.
>>It's up to you now, Tonghyun, to locate qualified psychics and find
>>appropriate spells. Maybe he'll bring Hudini along.
>
>Om amogha Vairocana maha mudra mani padma jvala prvartaya hum...
Now all we need is a good catalyst. Wouldn't it be a sight to see people
lining up to get authgraph sketches.... from Albert?
>Beyond Kikuchi, there is Tomino... :-)
Tomino can't flop! You even taped ZZ, not to mention trying to subtitle dem
all!! As a matter of fact, looking back at old a.m. articles, you might
have said in your .sig "Subtitling all of ZZ for the heck of it." Well,
guess who got you the ZZ's. Ricky, make sure TK works!
>Well, stuff I ordered from Asahiya just arrived. (^_^)
Care to list your recent acquisitions? I am most curious.
>But the man still cannot *read*.
Interesting accusation. Something yet to ask Mikimoto.
>More pleasure you get, the more damage you do to the environmrnt...
Well, would you rather think you're holding some possible cure for cancer in
your hand, or remnants of some Japanese morning rituals?! :-)
>Too late pal, I'm recharged. :)
Did UPS drop a freight in your doorstep?
>Do I sound better now? :)
[Manga-oh dies from manga overdose. Body discovered clinching burnt pieces
of Comic Frontier Afternoon, which has traces of nitrate on it.]
>Well, I had no problem with my supply of anime. I guess that's why I
>keep babbling in RAA. :-)
Just a minute ago, you had me convinced you have 'NOTHING' for anime
collection. Ricky!!! :-P
>Well, I think that's a waste of money.
Are WE talking about wasting money..........?
>Not really. :)
I think I'm in even less hurry than Iain. The story, afterall, is done and
out of my life. Eamon suggested "Ah! Jo-oh-sama!" as a sequel, but I think
anybody with his genital intact is perfectly capable of producing stories of
equal, if not surpassing, quality. "Call Girl Ai" sort of died in the womb
too. "Kamui's Family Affair" is what's been turning in my head of late, and
it's still to embryonic to even have a draft. If you want something a girl
can draw, anything from me will have to be massively tone-down. Teasing
stories are more difficult to write than 'wham bam thank you mam', but it
should also be more fun.
i.e. If you're not in a hurry, wait 3 months at least.
>Yeah, they are so good that they're BAD. :-)
Well, people here will hear no Viz defamations. It's a company trying its
best to bring mangas in their most chaste form, even despite slagging sales,
in order to preserve the integrity of this Japanese art form. We can show
solidarity with Viz's position by each purchasing a copy of its products,
even if you can't read. Its efforts are worthy of our tears of gratitude.
>You started it! :)
Finger pointing, aren't we? Who hit the 'F'-key first?! :-P
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dm...@orion.acs.uci.edu ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu studio <beep> ^ ^
Sorry about noise. Prospect of Color War VIII is irresistable.
Chun-Li
>writes:
>>Don't people always do that? "It's all Dave's fault!!!!!!" :-)
>Dave? Which Dave?
>>Too many Daves, BTW. :-)
You noticed......
Every other Otaku is named David, a common name...@_@;
>You want a David Panel?
Hmmmm, D.M. can I do this one....This would be GREAT for the Interactive
Anime Expo Video Line.....
hmmmmmmmm......
David Chiu
>You noticed......
>Every other Otaku is named David, a common name...@_@;
Like every other Otaku is named Albert, Mike... :}
>>You want a David Panel?
>Hmmmm, D.M. can I do this one....This would be GREAT for the Interactive
>Anime Expo Video Line.....
Promo clip from AXTV...
"Watch the Daves discuss the merits of Colorization! Watch the Daves
drool! Watch the Daves... Don't Miss IT!"
Chun-Li
@_@;
(Is that a Dave's thang?!!!)
Tonghyun Kim
>
>Little do you know, you're effectively doing so right now.
Am I?
>Or do people actually check a.m. for new messages? :-P
^^^^^^^^
I guess you meant new "noises." :-)
>Just for hell of it, I checked AX PR#1 for David's. Too many. ^^;;;;
The sequel to Infinity War: Infinity Dave!
>True to point. Not all Hiroshi's are in love with their sisters, either.
Not all Kims are otakus, either. :-)
>At least in Korea, you can be an open otaku and not bring shame to the
>family name.
Yes. And I like that. :)
>If I hadn't deleted them, I think OCF still has some old a.m. articles from
>the golden days. Things from colorizings to r.a.m. vs r.a.c.m. to Goddess
>Worshipper to "As Kim said...." "Don't call me Kim!".
Brings back good old memories... I still remember all those burning
debates with Patrick.
>Yeah, back then people had informative posts about interesting topics.
>Unlike recent days when bored otakus just exchange open noise mails and
>wasting bandwidth, if not tax money. How pathetic. ^_^
Oh well, it's still better than VIZ/DH flame wars. :-)
>VCR(S)?! I thought you only have ONE working VCR. You mean you got
>yourself a new one and didn't tell me about it?! tsk tsk.
I have 2 working SVHS and 1 playback only VHS. Didn't I tell you
that before?
>[AXTV's 'surprise' raid turns into bloody siege as TK, self proclaimed
>manga-oh, refuses to surrender until he sees a sign from Tomino.]
It's fortunate that Tomino's not coming to AX93. Otherwise, I would
have real hard time supressing the urge to slam him.
>Keep dreaming, Tonghyun. That sounds like Nazi's last call to arms. "Our
>country needs you. All our best men were killed in battle." :-P
"Jion wants you!" :-)
>I'm on verge of unloading 1/4 of my mangas because (^_^;;) I'm running out
>of living space (it can happen in America). People can get one free with
>every illegal poster purchased. In fact, if they take 10+ posters they can
>have one of my LDs too.
Really? Can you send me the list of mangas/LDs that you want to get
rid of? Maybe I can find things that're useful to me. :)
>And every word you say here, shall and will be used against you in the court
>of law.......
I don't think the court takes internet seriously....
>Saru demo kakederu Asamiya manga kyoushi.
Don't insult monkeys! :)
>Hey, I live in Irvine.........
That's enough. :)
>Like I'm about to tell the world my secret manga hole in L.A.
The Secret of My Manga Collection...
>Okay, it comes like this. anonymous IRC chatting....
>
>"What color, you think, is Deedlit's underwear?"
>"I don't think she has any."
>"...... (punchline not suitable for general audience. ask Albert.)"
I guess it's about time for you to come up with Lodoss War-High Elf
doujinshi. :-)
BTW, don't forget to tell Yuuki-sensei about the joke. :-)
>What?! And have them collapse on you, the last candidate for reincarnation
>of manga-oh? You worry about your Sundays and I'll worry about my
>Afternoons.
Come on, Sundays are like blocks of sponges compared to Afternoon.
You can't kill a baby with a Sunday but an Afternoon can kill even
Ricky! :-)
>... and there you sounded like Iain (before he went on his Afternoon
>crusade, at cost of 350,000 lives and mounting).
I mourn for those who died for the cause of manga...Sieg Manga! :-)
>You know you get too much out of Afternoon when you
>
> (1) have it fall on your head, and killing you.
> (2) have it explode in your face, and killing you.
> (3) have it collapse gravationally, unleasing thermonuclear heat, and
> killing you.
> (4) find a hand clinching a used bathroom tissue enclosed.
Dave, try to be more original. :-) Don't tell me that you're already
infected with the dreaded Tomino syndrome.
>Are they wet between their pants too?
NO. They are used for daily meditation. :)
>You could always scan in piecemeal fashion. Besides, the 'regions of
>interest' can fit quite well on a typical legal flatbed scanner. No more
>excuses, unless your top of line Apple has no MMU and can't do virtual
>memory. :-P
I guess you haven't realized how painful it is to edit a large image
with virtual memory... I'll show you when you come over to my place
next time.
>Now all we need is a good catalyst. Wouldn't it be a sight to see people
>lining up to get authgraph sketches.... from Albert?
I didn't know Albert has the potential to become a medium. :) So
when should we do the summoning ritual? :-)
>Tomino can't flop! You even taped ZZ, not to mention trying to subtitle dem
>all!! As a matter of fact, looking back at old a.m. articles, you might
>have said in your .sig "Subtitling all of ZZ for the heck of it." Well,
>guess who got you the ZZ's. Ricky, make sure TK works!
I only said "Subtitling all the Gundam (I like) for the heck of it."
:) Besides, you can't sub something that's NOT available on LD. :)
>Care to list your recent acquisitions? I am most curious.
I got Ashita no Joe #5-16, along with other things.
>Interesting accusation. Something yet to ask Mikimoto.
We'll have to wait until AX 93. :)
>Well, would you rather think you're holding some possible cure for cancer in
>your hand, or remnants of some Japanese morning rituals?! :-)
Neither. :-)
>Did UPS drop a freight in your doorstep?
Yes. :)
>[Manga-oh dies from manga overdose. Body discovered clinching burnt pieces
>of Comic Frontier Afternoon, which has traces of nitrate on it.]
Sorry, a manga-oh can take any amount of manga/novel without a
problem. At one time, I digested 200+ volumes of manga & novels in 3
days. :)
>Just a minute ago, you had me convinced you have 'NOTHING' for anime
>collection. Ricky!!! :-P
Did I? That's a news to me. :) BTW, didn't I tell you that Ricky
already saw GR II?
>Are WE talking about wasting money..........?
Well, Alt.groups son't cost that much. :)
>i.e. If you're not in a hurry, wait 3 months at least.
So you're going to premeire it at AX 93?
>Well, people here will hear no Viz defamations. It's a company trying its
>best to bring mangas in their most chaste form, even despite slagging sales,
>in order to preserve the integrity of this Japanese art form. We can show
>solidarity with Viz's position by each purchasing a copy of its products,
>even if you can't read. Its efforts are worthy of our tears of gratitude.
"We pledge our allegiance to Viz Fire!" :-)
>Finger pointing, aren't we? Who hit the 'F'-key first?! :-P
Guilty as charged....
Tonghyun
Albert Sze-Wei Wang
>>Or do people actually check a.m. for new messages? :-P
>I guess you meant new "noises." :-)
Ah, but this is the EXCELLENT newsgroup, and so it's in style to look
forward to the next exciting episode. :)
>>Just for hell of it, I checked AX PR#1 for David's. Too many. ^^;;;;
>The sequel to Infinity War: Infinity Dave!
Record of Dave Wars!!! Everybody is named Dave. :)
>>Yeah, back then people had informative posts about interesting topics.
>>Unlike recent days when bored otakus just exchange open noise mails and
>>wasting bandwidth, if not tax money. How pathetic. ^_^
>Oh well, it's still better than VIZ/DH flame wars. :-)
Most things are probably better than flame wars. :)
>>I'm on verge of unloading 1/4 of my mangas because (^_^;;) I'm running out
>>of living space (it can happen in America). People can get one free with
>>every illegal poster purchased. In fact, if they take 10+ posters they can
>>have one of my LDs too.
>Really? Can you send me the list of mangas/LDs that you want to get
>rid of? Maybe I can find things that're useful to me. :)
And the sharks congregate as they smell the odour of blood in the water.
>>Okay, it comes like this. anonymous IRC chatting....
>>"What color, you think, is Deedlit's underwear?"
>>"I don't think she has any."
>>"...... (punchline not suitable for general audience. ask Albert.)"
>I guess it's about time for you to come up with Lodoss War-High Elf
>doujinshi. :-)
Ha Dave! You asked the question, I gave a probable answer based on the
Nausicaa thingy, and you just HAD to say that punchline. I wonder what
other things go through that devious mind of yours. Not much I guess. :)
>BTW, don't forget to tell Yuuki-sensei about the joke. :-)
Homey don't THINK so! :) :) :)
>>Now all we need is a good catalyst. Wouldn't it be a sight to see people
>>lining up to get authgraph sketches.... from Albert?
>I didn't know Albert has the potential to become a medium. :) So
>when should we do the summoning ritual? :-)
Uh huh.... whatever. :)
Albert
david mou
By saying that. Yes, you are. :-P
>I guess you meant new "noises." :-)
It all started out with something short and simple. But soon you have one
stray thread, and another, and another.... And soon you have a full blown
epic serial that has no end in sight. Kind of like Saint Seiya. By the
time Kurumada introduced the 7 Generals of Darkness for Poseidon, I went
"Oh shit, this thing is not going to end anytime soon."
>Not all Kims are otakus, either. :-)
One is President too. Then again, have you checked his closet lately?
>Yes. And I like that. :)
1988 Seoul Olympics. "Pagine Mr. Kim. Your car's headlight is still on.
Paging Mr. Kim....."
>Brings back good old memories... I still remember all those burning
>debates with Patrick.
If I had mailed my extra copy of 1992 Comic Catalog to Boston instead of
Australia, who knows what might have happened.....
>Oh well, it's still better than VIZ/DH flame wars. :-)
But... didn't you know, that was the scheme of things to be? RAM becomes a
popular forum for people who can read English, while AM renders into a
halfway house for the Incurables. Patrick would have liked it that way.
^_^
>I have 2 working SVHS and 1 playback only VHS. Didn't I tell you
>that before?
See! Now you can make SVHS copies, translate Gundam episodes, generate
timed LD scripts, scan images, post on alt.manga, and make garlic toast all
at the same time. Assuming the fuse don't fry first.
>It's fortunate that Tomino's not coming to AX93. Otherwise, I would
>have real hard time supressing the urge to slam him.
"Somebody get this guy next to Kikuchi!"
>"Jion wants you!" :-)
You can always PAY other translators to come. Some of them might even be
marriable.
>Really? Can you send me the list of mangas/LDs that you want to get
>rid of? Maybe I can find things that're useful to me. :)
Heh, if my junk means treasure to you, here are some:
Madara 1-7 (bleh bleh, and you wonder why I stuck around til #7. I would
of kept buying had it not been the last line in vol #7 '...and everything
begins from here.....', AAAAaaarg!), Twinkle^2 Idol Star 1-7 (and the guy's
voice hasn't changed yet? Something's wrong), Ushio to Tora (scattered. I
had the impression it's the greatest manga on the surface of this planet.
True, up til vol.6), Dragon Quest 1-7 (yet another drag-on title), Yu Yu
Haku Sho 1-4 (should have stopped at #2 too). Some more, as I clear for
more. H-2 #1's gotta go too. GSC #1 (bought one too many). Toy Wide #4
(that too). 3x3 #6 (that too). Neko Ja Nai Mon #1 (interesting, but not
going to get all 11 of them). Akai Tama 1-3 (story not suitable for
sysnopsis on a.m.). And other things too embarrassing to list (Manabe,
Viz, and other old stuffs).
LD's.... will see. Haven't bought one in a year anyways. Possibilities
include Rhea, Akira, SM, Kamui, KOR & UY OAVs.
>I don't think the court takes internet seriously....
"Mr. Kikuchi, this is what your translator thinks of your work, and I
quote...."
>Don't insult monkeys! :)
Comon, Asamiya-sensei draws just as well as they!
>>Hey, I live in Irvine.........
>
>That's enough. :)
Nonono, you don't understand. Live here a month and your eyes shall open.
>The Secret of My Manga Collection...
Not to mention the super secret H-manga hole we have here.....
>I guess it's about time for you to come up with Lodoss War-High Elf
>doujinshi. :-)
Naaah, Dimwit's been done to death in Comiket. Among some Chrstmas
presents I got from Japan, Lodoss dojins figured rather prominently.
(non-H, thou). Buried in the Lodoss dojins is the Little Pirotesu's
Convenient Stories, a take off from Urd's. Perhaps the only bright spot in
an otherwise rather dull stack. May unload them with posters too.
>BTW, don't forget to tell Yuuki-sensei about the joke. :-)
You never know. Some Japanese are into that stuff. ^_^;;
>Come on, Sundays are like blocks of sponges compared to Afternoon.
>You can't kill a baby with a Sunday but an Afternoon can kill even
>Ricky! :-)
You tell me! You've got enough Sundays stacked up to stop a neutrino.
>I mourn for those who died for the cause of manga...Sieg Manga! :-)
But how inhumanely they perish! Pictures in Times show men, women, and
children mortally etched with deep rectangular grooves on various parts of
the anatomy. Disagreeable as those images are, what disturbed me most was
the LACK of any evidence of the offending objects. No doubt the most
hideous of the profiteers are turning blood into cash, misery into money.
I, therefore, call upon you all with deepest sincerity: "Boycott Afternoons
with bloodstains!!"
And such a disgrace of human character, Iain, just so you can read it
before the rest of the world........
>
>>You know you get too much out of Afternoon when you
:
:
>Dave, try to be more original. :-) Don't tell me that you're already
>infected with the dreaded Tomino syndrome.
Well, it was either that, or a possible 5 pg. complete evolution timeline
of Comic Frontier Afternoon into Anthrax by U.C. 0123. In other words, you
were spared from me "throwing the books" at you.
BTW, everyone I read seems to suffer from the above mentioned Acquired
Tomino-like Inane Syndrome, so it's no surprising that I, too, am affected.
If you know what's good for you, Tonghyun, perhaps you should get your
brain examined ASAP for infections as well. :-P
>NO. They are used for daily meditation. :)
All that, and a dripping ceiling too.....
>I guess you haven't realized how painful it is to edit a large image
>with virtual memory... I'll show you when you come over to my place
>next time.
If you have time to read this post, you no doubt have time to watch the HD
LED blink as well.
So, get on with it!!
>I didn't know Albert has the potential to become a medium. :) So
>when should we do the summoning ritual? :-)
Let's start one step at a time. Make sure Albert dreams about Tezuka
first. Then after that, have Albert finish Tezuka's incomplete works. And
think how much money that'll generate at Comiket!!
>I only said "Subtitling all the Gundam (I like) for the heck of it."
>:) Besides, you can't sub something that's NOT available on LD. :)
Huuuh, Ranma's been out on LDs for 3 years already?! And how can you tape
something you don't like? Excuse denied!! :-P
>I got Ashita no Joe #5-16, along with other things.
Didn't Joe die of massive hemorrhage at the end? What's the point?
Care to list the other things?
>We'll have to wait until AX 93. :)
What nice things do you have saved up for Mikimoto, besides thrashing him
for Marionette Gen.? :-P
>Neither. :-)
But now "this manga is really SHITTY" takes on a whole new meaning. :-)
>Sorry, a manga-oh can take any amount of manga/novel without a
>problem. At one time, I digested 200+ volumes of manga & novels in 3
>days. :)
Are we suppose to feel sorry for you? :)
At one time, I used up 4 boxes of Kleenex in 3 days. Got a cold, of
course.
>Did I? That's a news to me. :) BTW, didn't I tell you that Ricky
>already saw GR II?
Nice try. I'm on my Anime Fast until July.
Gaint Robo manga in Genki does look interesting, thou.
>Well, Alt.groups son't cost that much. :)
I'll agree, even if I don't believe it, so I can sleep better.
>So you're going to premeire it at AX 93?
It will take me 3 months just to find a nice day, having depleted all other
possible things to do, to sit down and start the first line. But after
that, pt.c mentality sets in. :-)
>"We pledge our allegiance to Viz Fire!" :-)
At AM, we don't start the flames; we make them bigger. We don't make the
mangas; we make them lamer. We don't make the noises; we make them
intolerable.
>Guilty as charged. :-)
Like a bad manga, I just introduced No.16, No.17, and No.18. Now there's
really no end in sight.......
--
o
dm...@orion.acs.uci.edu ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu studio 3x3 ^ ^
This thread could last longer than Dragon Ball.
david mou
>
>Ah, but this is the EXCELLENT newsgroup, and so it's in style to look
>forward to the next exciting episode. :)
Again, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. A.M.'s been getting signals
lately, and that's NOT a good sign.
>Record of Dave Wars!!! Everybody is named Dave. :)
Ha! It's just as easily as Umi no Yami, Tsuki no Albert. :-P
>Most things are probably better than flame wars. :)
Not when this guy is on a personal crusade to get fired, any which way he
can find. Won't be long before we (or I at least) start offending THE Top
anime & manga figures in Japan. :-P
>And the sharks congregate as they smell the odour of blood in the water.
You smell something and it ain't blood.
>Ha Dave! You asked the question, I gave a probable answer based on the
>Nausicaa thingy, and you just HAD to say that punchline. I wonder what
>other things go through that devious mind of yours. Not much I guess. :)
Nonono, some other dude asked the question, and YOU had to be smart with
the answer. I merely supported your position. If anything, IT'S YOUR
IDEA! Also, what little goes a long way. :-)
>Homey don't THINK so! :) :) :)
Well, you are the sole person possessing the punchline now. I forgot it
already.... ^_^;;
>Uh huh.... whatever. :)
Just relax and let the force flow within you.
Tonghyun Kim
>forward to the next exciting episode. :)
Albert, you must be real bored. :)
>Record of Dave Wars!!! Everybody is named Dave. :)
So which Dave will become the Knight of Dave in the end?
>Most things are probably better than flame wars. :)
True. :) But the problem is that RAM has continuous flame-wars. :(
>And the sharks congregate as they smell the odour of blood in the water.
The name of enemy MS in V Gundam is Shakko. :-)
>Ha Dave! You asked the question, I gave a probable answer based on the
>Nausicaa thingy, and you just HAD to say that punchline. I wonder what
>other things go through that devious mind of yours. Not much I guess. :)
Albert, you still haven't told me that High-Elf joke! :)
>Homey don't THINK so! :) :) :)
Don't worry. I would be glad to roast Kikuchi but I wouldn't dare
insult the Great Yuuki sensei. :)
Tonghyun
Tonghyun Kim
>
>By saying that. Yes, you are. :-P
I'm already lost on this thread...
>It all started out with something short and simple. But soon you have one
>stray thread, and another, and another.... And soon you have a full blown
>epic serial that has no end in sight. Kind of like Saint Seiya. By the
>time Kurumada introduced the 7 Generals of Darkness for Poseidon, I went
>"Oh shit, this thing is not going to end anytime soon."
You meant 7 Sea Generals, right? Oh well, it doesn't make any
difference whether they're Sea Generals or Sick Generals. :-)
Kurumada's new manga Silent Knight Shou died rather quickly in Jump.
I guess the man got infected with Tomino Syndrome, too.
>One is President too. Then again, have you checked his closet lately?
Yeah, we might find some Tezuka mangas in his closet. :-)
>1988 Seoul Olympics. "Pagine Mr. Kim. Your car's headlight is still on.
>Paging Mr. Kim....."
Hmm...I don't get this joke.
>If I had mailed my extra copy of 1992 Comic Catalog to Boston instead of
>Australia, who knows what might have happened.....
WHAT IF...Dave Mou had mailed 1992 Comic Catalog to Boston....
NOT! We're not in Marvel Universe. :-)
>But... didn't you know, that was the scheme of things to be? RAM becomes a
>popular forum for people who can read English, while AM renders into a
>halfway house for the Incurables. Patrick would have liked it that way.
>^_^
Ironic, isn't it? Those people actually wanted r.a.comics.manga
rather than rec.arts.manga....
>See! Now you can make SVHS copies, translate Gundam episodes, generate
>timed LD scripts, scan images, post on alt.manga, and make garlic toast all
>at the same time. Assuming the fuse don't fry first.
And scan oversized CLAMP X Calendars at the same time, right? Well,
machines can do multi-tasking but I can't. :-)
>"Somebody get this guy next to Kikuchi!"
A Ta Ta Ta Ta Ta Ta Ta Ta...........
>You can always PAY other translators to come. Some of them might even be
>marriable.
Sorry, I'm out of fund. :-)
>Heh, if my junk means treasure to you, here are some:
>
>Madara 1-7 (bleh bleh, and you wonder why I stuck around til #7. I would
>of kept buying had it not been the last line in vol #7 '...and everything
>begins from here.....', AAAAaaarg!), Twinkle^2 Idol Star 1-7 (and the guy's
>voice hasn't changed yet? Something's wrong), Ushio to Tora (scattered. I
>had the impression it's the greatest manga on the surface of this planet.
>True, up til vol.6), Dragon Quest 1-7 (yet another drag-on title), Yu Yu
>Haku Sho 1-4 (should have stopped at #2 too). Some more, as I clear for
>more. H-2 #1's gotta go too. GSC #1 (bought one too many). Toy Wide #4
>(that too). 3x3 #6 (that too). Neko Ja Nai Mon #1 (interesting, but not
>going to get all 11 of them). Akai Tama 1-3 (story not suitable for
>sysnopsis on a.m.). And other things too embarrassing to list (Manabe,
>Viz, and other old stuffs).
Geez, you accumulated LOTS of junks! I don't think I'll need them. I
might interested in Yuyu Hakusho 1-4, though.
>LD's.... will see. Haven't bought one in a year anyways. Possibilities
>include Rhea, Akira, SM, Kamui, KOR & UY OAVs.
I think you can sell them at decent price at AX 93. :)
>"Mr. Kikuchi, this is what your translator thinks of your work, and I
>quote...."
Well, I'm NOT interpreting for Kikuchi. :-)
>Comon, Asamiya-sensei draws just as well as they!
You just insulted a specie! :-)
>Nonono, you don't understand. Live here a month and your eyes shall open.
I prefer to have my eyes closed when I sleep. :-)
>Not to mention the super secret H-manga hole we have here.....
Deep Manga Nine? :-)
>You never know. Some Japanese are into that stuff. ^_^;;
Some? I would say "MANY." :-)
>You tell me! You've got enough Sundays stacked up to stop a neutrino.
I recently gave away about two dozen issues of SS. It's about time
you do the same with your Afternoon. :)
>But how inhumanely they perish! Pictures in Times show men, women, and
>children mortally etched with deep rectangular grooves on various parts of
>the anatomy. Disagreeable as those images are, what disturbed me most was
>the LACK of any evidence of the offending objects. No doubt the most
>hideous of the profiteers are turning blood into cash, misery into money.
>I, therefore, call upon you all with deepest sincerity: "Boycott Afternoons
>with bloodstains!!"
Dave, I think you should stop right there... :-) BTW, why do victims
of colony drops have deep rectangular grooves on their bodies? :-)
>And such a disgrace of human character, Iain, just so you can read it
>before the rest of the world........
Nothing can stand bewtween a manga-oh and his manga....
>Well, it was either that, or a possible 5 pg. complete evolution timeline
>of Comic Frontier Afternoon into Anthrax by U.C. 0123. In other words, you
>were spared from me "throwing the books" at you.
Oh mighty Dave, please spare me from your wrath! :-)
Alt.Manga II : The Wrath of Dave.
>BTW, everyone I read seems to suffer from the above mentioned Acquired
>Tomino-like Inane Syndrome, so it's no surprising that I, too, am affected.
>If you know what's good for you, Tonghyun, perhaps you should get your
>brain examined ASAP for infections as well. :-P
I already did. Fortunately, I'm OK. :) But it's true that
Tomino/Kikuchi syndrome is HIGHLY contagious. Somebody has to
discover a cure for the disease. Other wise the entire industry will
collapse....
>All that, and a dripping ceiling too.....
Stop that. will ya? :)
>If you have time to read this post, you no doubt have time to watch the HD
>LED blink as well.
>
>So, get on with it!!
OK. So where should I upload those images to, once I'm done with
scanning & editing?
>Let's start one step at a time. Make sure Albert dreams about Tezuka
>first. Then after that, have Albert finish Tezuka's incomplete works. And
>think how much money that'll generate at Comiket!!
Dave, you're getting REAL greedy here. I don't think you need 1600
unsold Tezuka fanzines... :-)
>Huuuh, Ranma's been out on LDs for 3 years already?! And how can you tape
>something you don't like? Excuse denied!! :-P
Do you think I like everything I have? NOT! I have Bastard! and
RG-VEDA II but I hate them as much as I hate Victory Gundamn.
>Didn't Joe die of massive hemorrhage at the end? What's the point?
You gotta read all 16 volumes to get the point. :)
>Care to list the other things?
I got some novels and I'm busy reading them. :) Rasetsu-Oh series
was quite good and above all, it had Akemi illustrations. :)
>What nice things do you have saved up for Mikimoto, besides thrashing him
>for Marionette Gen.? :-P
"May I have your autograph, Mr. Minky Momo?" :-)
>But now "this manga is really SHITTY" takes on a whole new meaning. :-)
And a whole new dimension, may I add. :-)
>Are we suppose to feel sorry for you? :)
Of course! :)
>At one time, I used up 4 boxes of Kleenex in 3 days. Got a cold, of
>course.
I had a similar experience few years ago. But I don't think it's
anything to bragg about. :-)
>Nice try. I'm on my Anime Fast until July.
Really? How about AMG! OAV?
>Gaint Robo manga in Genki does look interesting, thou.
Looks like the manga version is very different from the OAV.
>I'll agree, even if I don't believe it, so I can sleep better.
At least Dr. Fogler won't haunt you in your dreams. :)
>It will take me 3 months just to find a nice day, having depleted all other
>possible things to do, to sit down and start the first line. But after
>that, pt.c mentality sets in. :-)
pt.c mentality? What is that? Is it a variation of PTA mentality?
:-)
>At AM, we don't start the flames; we make them bigger. We don't make the
>mangas; we make them lamer. We don't make the noises; we make them
>intolerable.
"WE're the manga-ohs from Alt.manga!" :-)
>Like a bad manga, I just introduced No.16, No.17, and No.18. Now there's
>really no end in sight.......
The Nightmare of (Insert something here)....
> This thread could last longer than Dragon Ball.
IMPOSSIBLE. :-)
Tonghyun
david mou
In article <46...@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
writes:
>I'm already lost on this thread...
The whole "Manga & Noise" thread refuses to die. The Night of the Living
Noise continues.....
>You meant 7 Sea Generals, right? Oh well, it doesn't make any
>difference whether they're Sea Generals or Sick Generals. :-)
The purpose is surved when the bad guys show up, kick bronze asses, and
then narrowly defeated by the burning cosmo of the bronze fools and the
gum of their teeth. I can not think of anything situation where Kurumada
Paradigm did not occur in Saint Seiya.
>Kurumada's new manga Silent Knight Shou died rather quickly in Jump.
>I guess the man got infected with Tomino Syndrome, too.
Mangas that died too quickly in recent Jumps can now include Miyashita
Akira's recent Soloman embarrassment. It's amazing Hana no Keiji manage
to survive so long; then again, Hara Tetsuo doesn't write his stuffs.
Speaking of battle manga/anime formula, me and Ricky had a blast watching
Shurato TV. Besides making fun at green-haired bimbo's name, "Is he
calling her again or is he having an erection?", we made the 101 No-No in
battles. Amazingly, the formulas are exceedingly general in many other
shows so, as physicists would, we probed for the universal principles.
Including: Never fight someone who is glowing brighter than you; never
fight someone whose girlfriend just died; and no matter how much you're
ahead in the fight, never, EVER, say the N- word.
Shurato, "Nani?! ..... WUAAAAAAAaaaa!!!"
>Yeah, we might find some Tezuka mangas in his closet. :-)
Tezuka did draw some censorable (in today's standard) materials.
Fortunatelly, the momentum in Japanese H industry is such that it takes a
national emasculation program to stop the flames from recurring.
>Hmm...I don't get this joke.
By 3am, neither do I. :-P
>WHAT IF...Dave Mou had mailed 1992 Comic Catalog to Boston....
.... A.M. now would be a 3-way noise-a-thong, costing Internet millions,
if not billions, of dollars.
>NOT! We're not in Marvel Universe. :-)
Tonghyun Knows Marvel?!
>Ironic, isn't it? Those people actually wanted r.a.comics.manga
>rather than rec.arts.manga....
Well, I held on to a.m. for none other than sentimental reasons. Those
who knew better did, and should, move on. Now a.m. is a convenient noise
depository. Sort of like a bathroom for the minds.
>And scan oversized CLAMP X Calendars at the same time, right?
Well! How come I didn't think of that!? Glad to see you volunteer. ^_^
>>"Somebody get this guy next to Kikuchi!"
>
>A Ta Ta Ta Ta Ta Ta Ta Ta...........
"Is that .....? Tonghyun?! What has our GoH done to our translator!!?"
>Sorry, I'm out of fund. :-)
I'll willing to do Manga for Sex. Unfortunately, nobody has any manga I
can't order......
>Geez, you accumulated LOTS of junks! I don't think I'll need them. I
>might interested in Yuyu Hakusho 1-4, though.
Those are the ones lying outside the box, ready to rot or start fire with.
If I dig into the boxes maybe you'll find something. Boxes are
unaccessable at the moment, unfortunately.
How about 90% of Jump's Specials (seasonal) after the reincarnation of
Bastard!? Some of the earlier amateur stuffs are quite good. Not so good
of late thou.
>I think you can sell them at decent price at AX 93. :)
I can sell them at FULL price if I throw in 3.5 lbs of paper with each
disc. :-P
>Well, I'm NOT interpreting for Kikuchi. :-)
Says who? ^_^
>You just insulted a specie! :-)
If you put a monkey in front of a typewriter, in (looong) time the monkey
will produce the complete work of Shakespeare. Given enough monkeys, some
monkeys will achieve this earlier than others. Maybe... just maybe....
Asamiya got lucky.
>I prefer to have my eyes closed when I sleep. :-)
Now I don't get that joke.
>Deep Manga Nine? :-)
Up north is Nikaku, and there's no secret in that. Nikaku's purchase
agent has the eyes for the stuffs. The success of that store is no
accident.
Where as down here.... some stores just happen to go for niche market, due
to nearby powerhouse bookstores. That's enuf said. ^_^
>Some? I would say "MANY." :-)
"Yuuki-sensei, Ai-Eki ga sukidesu ka?"
>I recently gave away about two dozen issues of SS. It's about time
>you do the same with your Afternoon. :)
I donno. I think I have the longer continuous Afternoon collection in the
West Coast. Don't want to break that up. I'll consider if L.A. Basin
starts sinking.
BTW, Tonghyun, found any Afternoon in Torrence? ^_^
>Dave, I think you should stop right there... :-) BTW, why do victims
>of colony drops have deep rectangular grooves on their bodies? :-)
Well, originally the Japanese in the Moon stuffed Afternoon into colonies
to ensure their stabilities as they enter Earth's atmosphere. But like
most accidental discoveries, they figured the scattering of the Afternoons
makes better killer projectiles than a single colony thud. Though mass
produced on Moon, Afternoons are still rare items on Earth. Hence the
scattered mangazine in the streets of Sydney, achieving their purposes or
not, become the trophies of war profiteers. They, in turn, turn to
desperate otakus who don't really care, and some actually prefers, brain
particles on covers. Such is the tragedy of human nature.
You had to ask......
>Nothing can stand bewtween a manga-oh and his manga....
There is only ONE manga-oh. Accept no imitations, choose Tonghyun!
>Oh mighty Dave, please spare me from your wrath! :-)
Is the manga-oh actually FRIGHTEN by the noise of thunder? Imagine, some
people actually paid money to read noise on Fanroad. :-P
>Alt.Manga II : The Wrath of Dave.
Alt.Manga III : The Search for Pat.
>I already did. Fortunately, I'm OK. :) But it's true that
>Tomino/Kikuchi syndrome is HIGHLY contagious. Somebody has to
>discover a cure for the disease. Other wise the entire industry will
>collapse....
You may check out okay, but you're still a carrier. Let's hope you don't
infect anyone coming to America.
>Stop that. will ya? :)
Imagine what could be like if you were living in East Coast this past
week. You may actually have to BURN something to stay warm........
>OK. So where should I upload those images to, once I'm done with
>scanning & editing?
OCF. (Of Course, Fool!) :-)
>Dave, you're getting REAL greedy here. I don't think you need 1600
>unsold Tezuka fanzines... :-)
In that case, I'll find somebody to dump 50 Tezuka fanzines first and make
back some cost......... heh heh.
>Do you think I like everything I have? NOT! I have Bastard! and
>RG-VEDA II but I hate them as much as I hate Victory Gundamn.
But are you watching it?!?!
>>Didn't Joe die of massive hemorrhage at the end? What's the point?
>
>You gotta read all 16 volumes to get the point. :)
Boxing and good health don't mix?
>I got some novels and I'm busy reading them. :) Rasetsu-Oh series
>was quite good and above all, it had Akemi illustrations. :)
Speaking of Takada sisters, there's this voice actress named Takada Kumi
(who did a great job for Flair). Their parents certainly raised fine
fatimas.
>"May I have your autograph, Mr. Minky Momo?" :-)
Imagine 300+ panel attendees shouting synchronously,
"Oh Miki you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind Hey Miki! Hey
Miki!"
[With great restrain, I decided not to make that rhyme with 'Suck']
>>Are we suppose to feel sorry for you? :)
>
>Of course! :)
Did that trip to Torrence made you feel any better?!
[For those who don't know. I went to Torrence Asa this past Sunday, and
bumped into a strangely familiar character. "Tonghyun?" I asked.
"Dave!," he replied, and patted hard on my shoulder, "You can't tease me
anymore. Ha ha ha!!"]
>>Nice try. I'm on my Anime Fast until July.
>
>Really? How about AMG! OAV?
Don't make me go back to J-Wave, Tonghyun!
And speaking of which, which one stop anime video rental store do you go
to in SD?? Eh?! ;-P
>Looks like the manga version is very different from the OAV.
Still, not bad manga. I've seen worse anime-to-manga spinoffs. Come to
think of it, have you seen the Macross 2 manga (Japanese compilation)
anywhere?
>pt.c mentality? What is that? Is it a variation of PTA mentality?
Well, if it's not immediately obvious, the 3 parts of that AMG dojin
thingy were written in different states of mind. Part.a was less
incoherent, Pt.b was more confusion, and pt.c was 3am. ^_^;;
>"WE're the manga-ohs from Alt.manga!" :-)
"There can only be ONE!" - as Iain and Tonghyun starts chopping heads on
net.
>The Nightmare of (Insert something here)....
Is it 3am for you too. ^_^
>> This thread could last longer than Dragon Ball.
>
>IMPOSSIBLE. :-)
Come to think of it, what's happening in Drag-on Ball lately?
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In Tonghyun Knows commercial - Eamon skates to the camera. ".... No."
Tonghyun Kim
>
>The whole "Manga & Noise" thread refuses to die. The Night of the Living
>Noise continues.....
"Koitsu...WU...da..." :)
>The purpose is surved when the bad guys show up, kick bronze asses, and
>then narrowly defeated by the burning cosmo of the bronze fools and the
>gum of their teeth. I can not think of anything situation where Kurumada
>Paradigm did not occur in Saint Seiya.
Well, it's NOT Kurumada Paradigm but Shonen Jump Paradigm. :-) All
mangas in SJ are like twin brothers separated at birth. :-)
>Mangas that died too quickly in recent Jumps can now include Miyashita
>Akira's recent Soloman embarrassment. It's amazing Hana no Keiji manage
>to survive so long; then again, Hara Tetsuo doesn't write his stuffs.
You mean "The Family of Baramon"? Yeah, it sucked REAL BAD.
>Speaking of battle manga/anime formula, me and Ricky had a blast watching
>Shurato TV. Besides making fun at green-haired bimbo's name, "Is he
>calling her again or is he having an erection?", we made the 101 No-No in
>battles. Amazingly, the formulas are exceedingly general in many other
>shows so, as physicists would, we probed for the universal principles.
>Including: Never fight someone who is glowing brighter than you; never
>fight someone whose girlfriend just died; and no matter how much you're
>ahead in the fight, never, EVER, say the N- word.
>
>Shurato, "Nani?! ..... WUAAAAAAAaaaa!!!"
Come on, Shurato is a rip-off if Saint Seiya in the first place.
Substitute Greek stuff in SS with Hindu/Buddhist stuff and you
will get Shurato. Shurato had more interesting dialogues and battle
scenes, though.
Mizutani Yuuko is extremely good at playing bimbos. Just look at her
amazing acting as Mihoshi (the incredible girl with no brain) in
Tenchi Muyou. :-)
>Tezuka did draw some censorable (in today's standard) materials.
>Fortunatelly, the momentum in Japanese H industry is such that it takes a
>national emasculation program to stop the flames from recurring.
^^^^^^^^
Correct that to "International." :-)
>By 3am, neither do I. :-P
Get some sleep then. :)
>.... A.M. now would be a 3-way noise-a-thong, costing Internet millions,
>if not billions, of dollars.
3X3 Noise. :)
>Tonghyun Knows Marvel?!
Yes, I do. But don't ask me why.
>Well, I held on to a.m. for none other than sentimental reasons. Those
>who knew better did, and should, move on. Now a.m. is a convenient noise
>depository. Sort of like a bathroom for the minds.
I couldn't have described better. :) But don't forget to bring your
own toilet paper. :-)
>Well! How come I didn't think of that!? Glad to see you volunteer. ^_^
Execuse me, what is "voulnteer"?
>"Is that .....? Tonghyun?! What has our GoH done to our translator!!?"
And Kukuchi wimped out. :-)
>I'll willing to do Manga for Sex. Unfortunately, nobody has any manga I
>can't order......
Asahiya can deliver anything you order within a month to your
doorstep. (^_^)
>Those are the ones lying outside the box, ready to rot or start fire with.
>If I dig into the boxes maybe you'll find something. Boxes are
>unaccessable at the moment, unfortunately.
"Play with fire and you'll burn..."
>How about 90% of Jump's Specials (seasonal) after the reincarnation of
>Bastard!? Some of the earlier amateur stuffs are quite good. Not so good
>of late thou.
No thanks. They have more N/S ratio than our excellent newsgroup.
:-)
>I can sell them at FULL price if I throw in 3.5 lbs of paper with each
>disc. :-P
That's sounds like a very good idea. :-)
>Says who? ^_^
Dr. Who?
>If you put a monkey in front of a typewriter, in (looong) time the monkey
>will produce the complete work of Shakespeare. Given enough monkeys, some
>monkeys will achieve this earlier than others. Maybe... just maybe....
>Asamiya got lucky.
But now he's out of his luck as well. :-)
>Now I don't get that joke.
Me neither. :-)
>Up north is Nikaku, and there's no secret in that. Nikaku's purchase
>agent has the eyes for the stuffs. The success of that store is no
>accident.
And they are friendly and honest. It seems to me that they're the
only honest folks in the US anime industry. Even Mikado has turned into
crooks. :(
>Where as down here.... some stores just happen to go for niche market, due
>to nearby powerhouse bookstores. That's enuf said. ^_^
But those powerhouse bookstores bring good things to life...
>"Yuuki-sensei, Ai-Eki ga sukidesu ka?"
Watch out. Albert's is holding a bat. :-)
>I donno. I think I have the longer continuous Afternoon collection in the
>West Coast. Don't want to break that up. I'll consider if L.A. Basin
>starts sinking.
One colony drop will do it. :-)
>BTW, Tonghyun, found any Afternoon in Torrence? ^_^
I didn't look for it. I know it's not there. :)
>Well, originally the Japanese in the Moon stuffed Afternoon into colonies
>to ensure their stabilities as they enter Earth's atmosphere. But like
>most accidental discoveries, they figured the scattering of the Afternoons
>makes better killer projectiles than a single colony thud. Though mass
>produced on Moon, Afternoons are still rare items on Earth. Hence the
>scattered mangazine in the streets of Sydney, achieving their purposes or
>not, become the trophies of war profiteers. They, in turn, turn to
>desperate otakus who don't really care, and some actually prefers, brain
>particles on covers. Such is the tragedy of human nature.
>
>You had to ask......
Do those afternoons block radiowaves and microwaves, as well as
interfering with functions of computers and other electronic
devices?
:-) So far I had no problem communicating with people in Australia.
I guess Afternoons' properties are different from those of Minovski
(Minovsky, Minoffski, whatever) particles.
>There is only ONE manga-oh. Accept no imitations, choose Tonghyun!
Well, but there were plenty of imitation Kujaku-Ohs. :)
>Is the manga-oh actually FRIGHTEN by the noise of thunder? Imagine, some
>people actually paid money to read noise on Fanroad. :-P
Well, ALL doujinishis are noises after all. At least you learn a
thing or two from each issue of Fanroad. :)
>Alt.Manga III : The Search for Pat.
Alt.Manga IV: Long Voyage Alt.Manga.
>You may check out okay, but you're still a carrier. Let's hope you don't
>infect anyone coming to America.
Well, everyone who is coming to AX is already infected with the
syndrome anyway, except for Yuuki. :-)
>Imagine what could be like if you were living in East Coast this past
>week. You may actually have to BURN something to stay warm........
I'm invulnerable to cold, if you haven't figured that out yet. :)
>OCF. (Of Course, Fool!) :-)
Is that real or is that another Dave Mou at 3am? :-)
>In that case, I'll find somebody to dump 50 Tezuka fanzines first and make
>back some cost......... heh heh.
I think I can handle 50. :-)
>But are you watching it?!?!
I just watched ONCE and that's it.
>Boxing and good health don't mix?
Nor do manga and good health. :-)
>Speaking of Takada sisters, there's this voice actress named Takada Kumi
>(who did a great job for Flair). Their parents certainly raised fine
>fatimas.
You mean Takada Yumi, right? I think she's the voice of Aeka in
Tenchi Muyou. :)
>Imagine 300+ panel attendees shouting synchronously,
>"Oh Miki you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind Hey Miki! Hey
>Miki!"
Isn't that song almost 12 years old? Brings back good old
memories...
>[With great restrain, I decided not to make that rhyme with 'Suck']
Dave, don't forget that you're THE live programming supervisor. :)
>Did that trip to Torrence made you feel any better?!
Getting better. But I still need more! :-)
>[For those who don't know. I went to Torrence Asa this past Sunday, and
>bumped into a strangely familiar character. "Tonghyun?" I asked.
>"Dave!," he replied, and patted hard on my shoulder, "You can't tease me
>anymore. Ha ha ha!!"]
I've never seen a man so disappointed before. :)
>Don't make me go back to J-Wave, Tonghyun!
Run, Dave! Run!
>And speaking of which, which one stop anime video rental store do you go
>to in SD?? Eh?! ;-P
There are two Japanese Video Rental places in SD, Nijiya and Asahi
Center.
>Still, not bad manga. I've seen worse anime-to-manga spinoffs. Come to
>think of it, have you seen the Macross 2 manga (Japanese compilation)
>anywhere?
Well, I don't like Macross. Anyway, I have to agree with you that
manga adaptations of most anime suck real bad. Gundam mangas are
most notable examples.
>Well, if it's not immediately obvious, the 3 parts of that AMG dojin
>thingy were written in different states of mind. Part.a was less
>incoherent, Pt.b was more confusion, and pt.c was 3am. ^_^;;
So when we can expect to see pt.d mentality? :)
>"There can only be ONE!" - as Iain and Tonghyun starts chopping heads on
>net.
OK, OK. "We're Hachi Manga no Roshi from Alt.manga!"
>Is it 3am for you too. ^_^
What took so long for you to notice that? :)
>Come to think of it, what's happening in Drag-on Ball lately?
Who cares?
> In Tonghyun Knows commercial - Eamon skates to the camera. ".... No."
Don't scare me. It might come true on IXTV....
Tonghyun
david mou
>"Koitsu...WU...da..." :)
Wu, by definition, means none, empty, light's-on-but-nobody's-home. He is in
every respect identical to the kind of threads alt.manga's been getting of
late.
>Well, it's NOT Kurumada Paradigm but Shonen Jump Paradigm. :-) All
>mangas in SJ are like twin brothers separated at birth. :-)
You don't mean, all 100 manga artists in Shonen Jump were orphans connected
by a mysterious thread of fate.........
>You mean "The Family of Baramon"? Yeah, it sucked REAL BAD.
It sounded like..... you've read it??
>Come on, Shurato is a rip-off if Saint Seiya in the first place.
>Substitute Greek stuff in SS with Hindu/Buddhist stuff and you
>will get Shurato. Shurato had more interesting dialogues and battle
>scenes, though.
And the Sailors are non other than sex changed Saints. "Pegasus, Make-up!"
>Mizutani Yuuko is extremely good at playing bimbos. Just look at her
>amazing acting as Mihoshi (the incredible girl with no brain) in
>Tenchi Muyou. :-)
Looks like we already know what will be said in the Future of Anime panel:
bimbos with flowers replacing bimbos with guns. Hey, I like it, okay?!
>>national emasculation program to stop the flames from recurring.
> ^^^^^^^^
>Correct that to "International." :-)
Why are you getting me involved?! manga = genocide
>3X3 Noise. :)
Pat would of said, "Ah! My Noise"
>Yes, I do. But don't ask me why.
Okay, I won't, but ..... How?
>I couldn't have described better. :) But don't forget to bring your
>own toilet paper. :-)
With your stack of SS and my stack of Afternoon, I think we're safe for the
next 12 years.
>Execuse me, what is "voulnteer"?
It is, and I quote, "to translate for GoH, man dealer's table, build model,
attend panels, direct panels, run panels, crash video room, drop in Green
Room, play IXTV VJ, slam Kikuchi, describe mangas, explain animes, and win
the Gofer's Purple Heart for AX93."
And that's what I call a volunteer! Accepts no substitute, there can only be
one.......
>And Kukuchi wimped out. :-)
"There is but only one sure way to make sure Kikuchi and Asamiya are in fact
different persons," as Tonghyun passes a detatched right hand around the
spectators, "and just to be on the safe side, next year we're going for the
left."
>Asahiya can deliver anything you order within a month to your
>doorstep. (^_^)
Actually, so does Kino. I fill out one of those postcards and just stretch
and wait. I'm sticking my orderings through SF Kino since a) costs the same
for shipping than, say, L.A., and b) no point ruining my rep in more stores
than necessary. ^_^;;
>"Play with fire and you'll burn..."
"Play with manga and you'll become sterile."
>No thanks. They have more N/S ratio than our excellent newsgroup.
Afternoon is fast approaching alt.manga's once thought unassailable standard.
Dengeki Gao is ahead, and Comp is there already.
>That's sounds like a very good idea. :-)
So... how many pounds would you like, sir?
>But now he's out of his luck as well. :-)
What Asamiya needs is an all expense paid apprenticeship under another no
good artist. And maybe finish Sesame Street while at it.
>Me neither. :-)
It's 1:49am right now. I'm getting there.
>And they are friendly and honest. It seems to me that they're the
>only honest folks in the US anime industry. Even Mikado has turned into
>crooks. :(
Oh yeah? What has Mikado crooked you of late?
People in Nikaku are so nice you'd almost feel sorry to tell them on the
phone, "Yes I would like to order a copy of Midnight Cherry Girl Can't Sleep
and My Sister is My Lover." Its their loss...........
>But those powerhouse bookstores bring good things to life...
But for those who know, bigger isn't usually better.....
For the cream of the crop, smaller can be sweeter.
>Watch out. Albert's is holding a bat. :-)
I see Albert's holding something, and I don't think it's a bat!!
>One colony drop will do it. :-)
Come to think of it, the colony is late again this month. You can always
call L.A. Asa and have them Afternoons drop straight onto your head instead.
>I didn't look for it. I know it's not there. :)
There's this little place in Santa Monica that has stagnant Afternoon sales.
Another of my secret Afternoon hole. :-P
>Do those afternoons block radiowaves and microwaves, as well as
>interfering with functions of computers and other electronic
>devices?
Well, one volume of Afternoon can stop hard gamma ray. A year's worth and
you have a Pile, capable of sustaining dry critical chain reaction. 5 years
worth and you can stop a nutrino. 10 years worth and the mass collapse
gravationally, generating Hawking radiations as well as an Event Horizon;
that marks the upper physical limit for Afternoon storage.
>:-) So far I had no problem communicating with people in Australia.
>I guess Afternoons' properties are different from those of Minovski
>(Minovsky, Minoffski, whatever) particles.
Me think Afternoons may be in fact .... <gulp> .... organic. How else can
one explain the sudden and deliberate changes in all of Assembler 0X
character designs.
>Well, but there were plenty of imitation Kujaku-Ohs. :)
That's why they're killed off as soon as the infants are found.
>Well, ALL doujinishis are noises after all. At least you learn a
>thing or two from each issue of Fanroad. :)
The only things you learned from me are sales in Kinos and Asas that you
missed. :-P
>Alt.Manga IV: Long Voyage Alt.Manga.
Alt.manga V: The Final Noise.
>Well, everyone who is coming to AX is already infected with the
>syndrome anyway, except for Yuuki. :-)
"Yuuki-sensei, why does Galli look like Deidlit with a bad perm?"
>I'm invulnerable to cold, if you haven't figured that out yet. :)
Let's see what I've figure out thus far. TK is frost proof, water resistant,
electrically insulated, and evil repellent. Either you're a cockroach or a
bad case of manga overdose. If latter case, I'm calling Terminex.
>Is that real or is that another Dave Mou at 3am? :-)
Not yet. DM at 3am would have said OCF - Of Coursedly F%@^ed
>I think I can handle 50. :-)
Don't forget the more likely scenario of 1600 overstock AMG dojinshis. Of
which case you'd have to find more creative ways to peddle those things.
"Pss, want to see a Goddess naked?"
>I just watched ONCE and that's it.
Sounds like you kept a copy around just in case you forgot you watched it
before.
>Nor do manga and good health. :-)
"This is your brain. This is your brain on mangas.... Anyone has a fire
extinguisher?"
>You mean Takada Yumi, right? I think she's the voice of Aeka in
>Tenchi Muyou. :)
Bombo Power 93!
>Isn't that song almost 12 years old? Brings back good old
>memories...
12 years ago Miki was blowing people's minds. saaa......
>Dave, don't forget that you're THE live programming supervisor. :)
Hey! I am merely A live programming ASSISTANT planner. Albert reading this,
with whatever he's holding, would like you to retract that politically
incorrect line. :-P
>Getting better. But I still need more! :-)
Want to swing by L.A. with Rick this Sunday? I actually have a spare copy of
Afternoon Feb, free if you show up.
>I've never seen a man so disappointed before. :)
Indeed, I was looking forward so much on posting Manga and More Noise that
evening. Your surprise appearance, needless to say, ruined the night for me.
In shock I even picked up Duklyon. I normally don't go blind with manga that
quickly.
>Run, Dave! Run!
The midnight J-Wave run (40 miles in 1/2 hr + free night parking) were long
gone. That drive died with AB, of which the primary motivation was "I'm
gonna kick CA/Mike's ass!" Well, the spirit still exists, except the
delivery is now well disguised and is working internally instead.
muahahahahahaah
>>And speaking of which, which one stop anime video rental store do you go
>>to in SD?? Eh?! ;-P
>
>There are two Japanese Video Rental places in SD, Nijiya and Asahi
>Center.
How long did it take you to snuff those two places out?
>Well, I don't like Macross. Anyway, I have to agree with you that
>manga adaptations of most anime suck real bad. Gundam mangas are
>most notable examples.
Hey! Don't you think F91 manga is cool?! In many respects it surpasses the
original movie form, making it a classic on its own rite. Similarly, Gunhed
and SM #5 are equally original in terms of plot twists and character
developments.
>So when we can expect to see pt.d mentality? :)
Don't push it. So far Kamui's love towards his seven mothers are only
platonic.
>>"There can only be ONE!" - as Iain and Tonghyun starts chopping heads on
>>net.
>
>OK, OK. "We're Hachi Manga no Roshi from Alt.manga!"
R.A.M. II - The Quickening
>What took so long for you to notice that? :)
Donno. You ought to be careful to not be too informative at times.
>Who cares?
It matters. If Dragon Ball ends it means Toriyama gets to do something else
interesting, but not before flopping a couple short-lived DB lookalikes like
a good SJ hasbeen. Do you want to bet against Hojo doing something without
guns and babes?
>Don't scare me. It might come true on IXTV....
Oh, it's 3am again. Let's see...
Mike, "Tonghyun knows anime."
Iain, "Tonghyun knows manga."
Ricky, "Tonghyun knows Marvel?!"
David, "Tonghyun knows models."
Eamon, ".... No."
Rick, "Tonghyun knows cels.'
Kong, "Tonghyun knows novels."
Hitoshi, "Tonghyun knows Japanese."
CA-E, "Tonghyun -- knows -- clubs --!"
Albert, "Tonghyun knows Gundams."
Albert, "Tonghyun knows LDs."
Hiroshi, "Tonghyun knows shojos."
DM, "Tonghyun! You don't know NOISE!!"
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In Tonghyun Knows commercial - Eamon skates to the camera. ".... No."
David Chiu
>In article <46...@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>>And they are friendly and honest. It seems to me that they're the
>>only honest folks in the US anime industry. Even Mikado has turned into
>>crooks. :(
>Oh yeah? What has Mikado crooked you of late?
Like the recent price jack of a certain Y22,000 LD set to a whopping $275
plus tax...
>People in Nikaku are so nice you'd almost feel sorry to tell them on the
>phone, "Yes I would like to order a copy of Midnight Cherry Girl Can't Sleep
>and My Sister is My Lover." Its their loss...........
Never stopped me, although Akira has started looking at me funny... (^_^;)
>>Alt.Manga IV: Long Voyage Alt.Manga.
>Alt.manga V: The Final Noise.
Alt.Manga VI: The Undiscovered Manga
>Let's see what I've figure out thus far. TK is frost proof, water resistant,
>electrically insulated, and evil repellent. Either you're a cockroach or a
>bad case of manga overdose. If latter case, I'm calling Terminex.
All TK needs is a pair of Antena and an extra pair of legs :}
>"Pss, want to see a Goddess naked?"
But... but... I already have!
>Mike, "Tonghyun knows anime."
>Iain, "Tonghyun knows manga."
>Ricky, "Tonghyun knows Marvel?!"
>David, "Tonghyun knows models."
>Eamon, ".... No."
>Rick, "Tonghyun knows cels.'
>Kong, "Tonghyun knows novels."
>Hitoshi, "Tonghyun knows Japanese."
>CA-E, "Tonghyun -- knows -- clubs --!"
>Albert, "Tonghyun knows Gundams."
>Albert, "Tonghyun knows LDs."
>Hiroshi, "Tonghyun knows shojos."
>DM, "Tonghyun! You don't know NOISE!!"
DC, "Tonghyun knows dnab..."
Tonghyun Kim
>every respect identical to the kind of threads alt.manga's been getting of
>late.
Yeah, alt.manga will NEVER die unless someone kill either of us. :-)
>You don't mean, all 100 manga artists in Shonen Jump were orphans connected
>by a mysterious thread of fate.........
Then who is their father? :-)
>It sounded like..... you've read it??
I've read some episodes of it. It sucked as bad as Compiler Vol.3.
:-)
>And the Sailors are non other than sex changed Saints. "Pegasus, Make-up!"
MAKE-UP is the name of group who did OP and ED for Saint Seiya
anime. :-)
>Looks like we already know what will be said in the Future of Anime panel:
>bimbos with flowers replacing bimbos with guns. Hey, I like it, okay?!
We should have THE GIRLS IN ANIME PANEL. :)
>Why are you getting me involved?! manga = genocide
You're already involved. :-) Just count the number of H mangas in
your closet. :-)
>Pat would of said, "Ah! My Noise"
I would have said, "Mobile Noise Alt.manga 0083" :-)
>Okay, I won't, but ..... How?
Don't ask me how, either.
>With your stack of SS and my stack of Afternoon, I think we're safe for the
>next 12 years.
I really need to unload some of the manga magazines quick, before I
get buried.
>It is, and I quote, "to translate for GoH, man dealer's table, build model,
>attend panels, direct panels, run panels, crash video room, drop in Green
>Room, play IXTV VJ, slam Kikuchi, describe mangas, explain animes, and win
>the Gofer's Purple Heart for AX93."
>
>And that's what I call a volunteer! Accepts no substitute, there can only be
>one.......
Hey, I'm NOT 1000 hands Kannon Bosatsu nor I'm Vajra Gharba Raja!
But then, your workload is no lighter than mine.
"take care of all panels and workshops, crash video rooms, play IXTV
VJ, explain manga, sell AMG dojinshi, attend panels, roast Kikuchi,
guide guests to gourmet places in bay area, etc." :)
>"There is but only one sure way to make sure Kikuchi and Asamiya are in fact
>different persons," as Tonghyun passes a detatched right hand around the
>spectators, "and just to be on the safe side, next year we're going for the
>left."
Well, we can "mark" him with some radioactive isotopes. :-) It'll be
fun to hear excuses Kikuchi will come up with. :)
>Actually, so does Kino. I fill out one of those postcards and just stretch
>and wait. I'm sticking my orderings through SF Kino since a) costs the same
>for shipping than, say, L.A., and b) no point ruining my rep in more stores
>than necessary. ^_^;;
Well, I think you're already on the black list of all Japanese
bookstore in ENTIRE California. :-)
>"Play with manga and you'll become sterile."
Is that from your own experience? :-)
>Afternoon is fast approaching alt.manga's once thought unassailable standard.
>Dengeki Gao is ahead, and Comp is there already.
I think Comp and Jump are far worse than AM in terms of S/N ratio.
:)
>So... how many pounds would you like, sir?
Let me think about that for a moment.
>What Asamiya needs is an all expense paid apprenticeship under another no
>good artist. And maybe finish Sesame Street while at it.
I don't think Matsumoto will accept Asamiya. The man at least can
tell a good assistant from bad ones. :)
>It's 1:49am right now. I'm getting there.
Welcome to the Outer Zone!
>Oh yeah? What has Mikado crooked you of late?
They didn't crook me but they seriously mistreated Bruce.
>People in Nikaku are so nice you'd almost feel sorry to tell them on the
>phone, "Yes I would like to order a copy of Midnight Cherry Girl Can't Sleep
>and My Sister is My Lover." Its their loss...........
Come on, you already have all the H mangas Nikaku carry, don't you?
:)
>But for those who know, bigger isn't usually better.....
>
>For the cream of the crop, smaller can be sweeter.
That's why you're not revealing your secret holes to the general
public. :)
>I see Albert's holding something, and I don't think it's a bat!!
Let me guess...A guided missile? :-)
>Come to think of it, the colony is late again this month. You can always
>call L.A. Asa and have them Afternoons drop straight onto your head instead.
So have you got your April Afternoon yet? :)
>There's this little place in Santa Monica that has stagnant Afternoon sales.
>Another of my secret Afternoon hole. :-P
Thank you for yielding your afternoon to me. :) You're such a nice
person. :)
>Well, one volume of Afternoon can stop hard gamma ray. A year's worth and
>you have a Pile, capable of sustaining dry critical chain reaction. 5 years
>worth and you can stop a nutrino. 10 years worth and the mass collapse
>gravationally, generating Hawking radiations as well as an Event Horizon;
>that marks the upper physical limit for Afternoon storage.
I guess your home is a natural nuclear shelter. :) But be careful,
your house might turn into a black hole in few years...
>Me think Afternoons may be in fact .... <gulp> .... organic. How else can
>one explain the sudden and deliberate changes in all of Assembler 0X
>character designs.
A sentient magazine? :-) NOT! It has more to do with Kikuchi's
de-evolution than Afternoon's evolution.
>That's why they're killed off as soon as the infants are found.
But even Urakouya couldn't kill all the infants. So don't be
surprised even if you see 10-20 Manga-ohs. :-)
>The only things you learned from me are sales in Kinos and Asas that you
>missed. :-P
BTW, Irresponsible Captain Tyler (Tailor, Taylor, or whatever) was
GREAT! You gotta see it. :)
>Alt.manga V: The Final Noise.
Alt.manga VI: The Undiscovered Noises.
>"Yuuki-sensei, why does Galli look like Deidlit with a bad perm?"
So have you came up with a cyborg joke? :-)
>Let's see what I've figure out thus far. TK is frost proof, water resistant,
>electrically insulated, and evil repellent. Either you're a cockroach or a
>bad case of manga overdose. If latter case, I'm calling Terminex.
I'll take sometime for you to figure out my true identity. BTW, if
you haven't already noticed, I'm resistant to chemicals as well. :)
>Not yet. DM at 3am would have said OCF - Of Coursedly F%@^ed
So how do you feel now? :)
>Don't forget the more likely scenario of 1600 overstock AMG dojinshis. Of
>which case you'd have to find more creative ways to peddle those things.
>
>"Pss, want to see a Goddess naked?"
Dave, are you sure that you're writing this at 2 am? You sound as if
you haven't had any sleep for 3 days...
>Sounds like you kept a copy around just in case you forgot you watched it
>before.
I'm just keeping them for the heck of it. THere are lots of things I
buy/keep for the heck of it. :-)
>"This is your brain. This is your brain on mangas.... Anyone has a fire
>extinguisher?"
What I need now is sleep...
>Bombo Power 93!
What the hell is Bombo?
>12 years ago Miki was blowing people's minds. saaa......
Now Miki is mindless...
>Hey! I am merely A live programming ASSISTANT planner. Albert reading this,
>with whatever he's holding, would like you to retract that politically
>incorrect line. :-P
I'm politically incorrect and proud of it. :-)
>Want to swing by L.A. with Rick this Sunday? I actually have a spare copy of
>Afternoon Feb, free if you show up.
I think you have realized your mistake by now. :)
>Indeed, I was looking forward so much on posting Manga and More Noise that
>evening. Your surprise appearance, needless to say, ruined the night for me.
>In shock I even picked up Duklyon. I normally don't go blind with manga that
>quickly.
"Unexpected things do happen..."
- Cima from 0083 Eps. 12 -
>The midnight J-Wave run (40 miles in 1/2 hr + free night parking) were long
>gone. That drive died with AB, of which the primary motivation was "I'm
>gonna kick CA/Mike's ass!" Well, the spirit still exists, except the
>delivery is now well disguised and is working internally instead.
>muahahahahahaah
I don't think the above paragraph is politically correct... :)
Anyway, I think we'll need do the midnight J-Wave run for acquiring
source materials for AXTV.
>How long did it take you to snuff those two places out?
Not too long. They don't have much.
>Hey! Don't you think F91 manga is cool?! In many respects it surpasses the
>original movie form, making it a classic on its own rite. Similarly, Gunhed
>and SM #5 are equally original in terms of plot twists and character
>developments.
Yeah, those mangas are *slightly* better than stinkin' Assembler 0X
but they still SUCK.
>Don't push it. So far Kamui's love towards his seven mothers are only
>platonic.
I'm disappointed at you, Dave. :)
>R.A.M. II - The Quickening
RAM II: Manga-Oh's Counterattack.
>Donno. You ought to be careful to not be too informative at times.
Thank you for the advice. :-)
>It matters. If Dragon Ball ends it means Toriyama gets to do something else
>interesting, but not before flopping a couple short-lived DB lookalikes like
>a good SJ hasbeen. Do you want to bet against Hojo doing something without
>guns and babes?
Hojo CAN'T do without guns and babes, just like Toriyama can't do
without stupid kids with earth shaking powers.
[HEAVY noise deleted]
Kimi wa mada hontou no NOISE o shiranai....
Tonghyun
David Mou
I warn you! Don't give them any ideas.
>Then who is their father? :-)
Mr. Kadokawa?
>I've read some episodes of it. It sucked as bad as Compiler Vol.3.
In defense of of aforementioned title. It sucks bad but it doesn't suck like
sh!t.
>MAKE-UP is the name of group who did OP and ED for Saint Seiya
>anime. :-)
Now there is a happy coincidence..... I say it's all a conspiracy.
>We should have THE GIRLS IN ANIME PANEL. :)
"Girls Without Guns" Panel
>You're already involved. :-) Just count the number of H mangas in
>your closet. :-)
I don't remember letting you see my closet. You just jumped in and helped
yourself with Dragon Rider, as if I got anything to do with that. :-P
>I would have said, "Mobile Noise Alt.manga 0083" :-)
I'd call it "Sakigake! Noise Juku!"
>Don't ask me how, either.
Who? When? Where? What?!
>I really need to unload some of the manga magazines quick, before I
>get buried.
As if you had that in mind when you carted a box load of magazines from my
place. :-P
>Hey, I'm NOT 1000 hands Kannon Bosatsu nor I'm Vajra Gharba Raja!
Pat, "Tonghyun knows occults."
>But then, your workload is no lighter than mine.
Robert, "Tonghyun knows subtitles."
>"take care of all panels and workshops, crash video rooms, play IXTV
>VJ, explain manga, sell AMG dojinshi, attend panels, roast Kikuchi,
>guide guests to gourmet places in bay area, etc." :)
I will be the last person nervous about the panels; their outcomes are
predestined. ^_^ Ricky is VJing IXTV, and guess who's his color person.
"Manga questions? Ask the fainted guy over there when he wakes up." Chances
are AMG dojins won't be ready by July. I'll be attending A panel. Kikuchi's
fate in Oakland is as sealed as Kennedy's in Dallas. Mikimoto can always eat
raisins. etc.
"Tonghyun knows cos-play?"
If we were the last persons standing in Parc Hotel, which one of us do you
think Mike will entrust crisis management? Wake me up when you're done.
>Well, we can "mark" him with some radioactive isotopes. :-) It'll be
>fun to hear excuses Kikuchi will come up with. :)
"Use condom in America."
>Well, I think you're already on the black list of all Japanese
>bookstore in ENTIRE California. :-)
Naah. Only buy offensive materials when the clerks are ugly.
>Is that from your own experience? :-)
You tell me. "Tonghyun, you just passed 2 million pages of manga! What are
you going to do next?!"
>I think Comp and Jump are far worse than AM in terms of S/N ratio.
Shhh.. I'll be dumping them (in nice Gundam giftwrap papers) in AX. Don't
need any unnecessary depreciations.
Speaking of Comp. Just went over the Golden Wolf, and I'm about 85% sure
Itou Takehiko had something to do with it. No wonder The Future Retro-Hero
Story sucked of late. Perhaps all of Kadokawa's artists are/were once his
secret sex slaves.
What ever happened to FRHS OAV?
>Let me think about that for a moment.
To had your shot!
[Caution when you invite a famous otaku in your house; do so at your own
risk. TK, the well respected walking manga/anime database of UseNet, is no
less a grave robber when it comes to raping someone else's collection. I
stood in awe as TK, "I'll take this. I'll take this. This one sucks ....
but I'll take it anyway. This this this, and this." "Here TK, check out the
Sailor Moon calendar Rick got for me from Japan." "Oh! This will hang well
on my wall!" @_@;;;;;;?!?!]
>I don't think Matsumoto will accept Asamiya. The man at least can
>tell a good assistant from bad ones. :)
In that case, judging from final pages of Hard-KOR #10, Japan has run out of
good assistants.
>They didn't crook me but they seriously mistreated Bruce.
Expand on that please....
>Come on, you already have all the H mangas Nikaku carry, don't you?
I take it as flattery. But no. I only express passing interest in the
bishojo genre, only to complete my holistic manga experience. My collection
shall never apporach that of Nikaku's, the H Mecha of the Western Worlds.
>That's why you're not revealing your secret holes to the general
>public. :)
Baaad mistake taking you to my Afternoon hole.
[If you're wondering, Seiya can't defend his life against TK's handspeed,
with which he snagged the last copy of Afternoon April in store.]
>Let me guess...A guided missile? :-)
"My, Albert. What big missle you've got!"
>So have you got your April Afternoon yet? :)
Do I look .....
[f@ck you f@ck you f@ck you f@ck you f@ck you]
.... like I cared?
>Thank you for yielding your afternoon to me. :) You're such a nice
>person. :)
See above.
>I guess your home is a natural nuclear shelter. :) But be careful,
>your house might turn into a black hole in few years...
But not as bad as your Sunday stack will be, when it starts talking back to
you in 5 years.
>A sentient magazine? :-) NOT! It has more to do with Kikuchi's
>de-evolution than Afternoon's evolution.
Well, they really have a way of rubbing off each other in NewType.
>BTW, Irresponsible Captain Tyler (Tailor, Taylor, or whatever) was
>GREAT! You gotta see it. :)
Don't make me join CA-E. You wouldn't like me when I join CA-E.
>Alt.manga VI: The Undiscovered Noises.
And I really REALLY thought this whole thread died. Guess it's Back to the
Noise.
>So have you came up with a cyborg joke? :-)
Okay, here's an old one:
Q: What do you call a new cyborg?
A: A Baby Boomer.
[Ack. Barf. Cough. Thud.]
>So how do you feel now? :)
Getting there.
>>"Pss, want to see a Goddess naked?"
>
>Dave, are you sure that you're writing this at 2 am? You sound as if
>you haven't had any sleep for 3 days...
Did I mention I like Golden Wolf forwards and back? ^_^;;
>I'm just keeping them for the heck of it. THere are lots of things I
>buy/keep for the heck of it. :-)
Want to buy Deki wa Kaisoku series for the heck of it?! 10 lbs of free
wrapping papers included.
>What I need now is sleep...
[Curious how everytime TK comes back from LA, he's silence on the net for 2-3
days. Predictably, after the highs come lows, and his activies increase in
quality and quantity the longer he spends in The City Without a Kino. If I
were paying for newsfeeds, it might be cheaper to send a $5 manga every other
day to a roof leaking apartment in SD.]
>>Bombo Power 93!
>
>What the hell is Bombo?
2 am. o = i
>Now Miki is mindless...
Tell me, NewType expert, what happened in the last 12 installments of
Marionette Gen?
>I'm politically incorrect and proud of it. :-)
Can we say -- Color?
>I think you have realized your mistake by now. :)
As Afternoon gets bigger, it might just be practical to stuff a timed
explosive in one of them. When are you coming up again?
>I don't think the above paragraph is politically correct... :)
I de-stabilize for $2/hr.
>Anyway, I think we'll need do the midnight J-Wave run for acquiring
>source materials for AXTV.
Japan Video in SF has a copy of Minna Agechau Live. Someone upthere will
have to fetch it of AXTV.
>Not too long. They don't have much.
And I'm only about 100 miles closer to Ranm .... Idol Land than you are.
>Yeah, those mangas are *slightly* better than stinkin' Assembler 0X
>but they still SUCK.
Any chance we're too critical of Asamiya-sensei?
btw, Vagrant SAAAAAAUCKS!!
>I'm disappointed at you, Dave. :)
Kamui is going to do his twin sister(or brother) thou. The reader is always
right.
>Thank you for the advice. :-)
Your noise level has increased significantly. Do keep it up.
>Hojo CAN'T do without guns and babes, just like Toriyama can't do
>without stupid kids with earth shaking powers.
Heeey, that sounds like Otomo......
>[HEAVY noise deleted]
>
>Kimi wa mada hontou no NOISE o shiranai....
Dakara, henna Nihongo o tsukatte NOISE kamoshiremasenka?
[Note: Shampoo Japanese]
dave
Tonghyun Kim
>
>I warn you! Don't give them any ideas.
To whom? Bandai? Kadokawa?
>Mr. Kadokawa?
Unlikely. The president of Shueisha is a more likely candidate.
>In defense of of aforementioned title. It sucks bad but it doesn't suck like
>sh!t.
They all suck anyway, don't they? :-)
>Now there is a happy coincidence..... I say it's all a conspiracy.
Both SS and SM are made by TOEI. :)
>"Girls Without Guns" Panel
"Girls in Uniform" Panel
>I don't remember letting you see my closet. You just jumped in and helped
>yourself with Dragon Rider, as if I got anything to do with that. :-P
I don't remember, either. I just opened your closet without your
permission. :-)
>I'd call it "Sakigake! Noise Juku!"
OR Noisemaker 0X.
>Who? When? Where? What?!
STOP!
>As if you had that in mind when you carted a box load of magazines from my
>place. :-P
But they'll be unloaded at AX 93. Right?
>Pat, "Tonghyun knows occults."
Pat doesn't exist in the cyperspace anymore.
>Robert, "Tonghyun knows subtitles."
I don't. :)
>I will be the last person nervous about the panels; their outcomes are
>predestined. ^_^ Ricky is VJing IXTV, and guess who's his color person.
>"Manga questions? Ask the fainted guy over there when he wakes up." Chances
>are AMG dojins won't be ready by July. I'll be attending A panel. Kikuchi's
>fate in Oakland is as sealed as Kennedy's in Dallas. Mikimoto can always eat
>raisins. etc.
Hmm..."Irresponsible Staff Dave"? :-) If so, there is nothing to
worry about. Just relax and everything will turn out OK. :)
>"Tonghyun knows cos-play?"
It's very easy to do Cpt. Tailor cosplay, BTW. :)
>If we were the last persons standing in Parc Hotel, which one of us do you
>think Mike will entrust crisis management? Wake me up when you're done.
Dave Mou.
>Naah. Only buy offensive materials when the clerks are ugly.
Hmm...people at Torrance Kino didn't look that ugly. :-)
>You tell me. "Tonghyun, you just passed 2 million pages of manga! What are
>you going to do next?!"
Go for 3 million pages. :-)
>Shhh.. I'll be dumping them (in nice Gundam giftwrap papers) in AX. Don't
>need any unnecessary depreciations.
Sorry about that. I shouldn't have said that when I also have unload
to some issues of them. :)
>Speaking of Comp. Just went over the Golden Wolf, and I'm about 85% sure
>Itou Takehiko had something to do with it. No wonder The Future Retro-Hero
>Story sucked of late. Perhaps all of Kadokawa's artists are/were once his
>secret sex slaves.
I think Itoh Takehiko is infected with Kikuchi/Tomino syndrome as
well. :( Let's start "Kikuchi Watch", a monthly list of people
who're infected with the dreaded disease. :-)
>What ever happened to FRHS OAV?
Dunno. A new drama CD is coming out, though.
>[Caution when you invite a famous otaku in your house; do so at your own
>risk. TK, the well respected walking manga/anime database of UseNet, is no
>less a grave robber when it comes to raping someone else's collection. I
>stood in awe as TK, "I'll take this. I'll take this. This one sucks ....
>but I'll take it anyway. This this this, and this." "Here TK, check out the
>Sailor Moon calendar Rick got for me from Japan." "Oh! This will hang well
>on my wall!" @_@;;;;;;?!?!]
After 10 years of blood and sweat, I finally aqcuired a special
power, which allows me to pick up mangas at the speed of light. :-)
Those who live idly in manga-rich environment will never be able to
master this power. :-)
>In that case, judging from final pages of Hard-KOR #10, Japan has run out of
>good assistants.
Or Matsumoto needs a new pair of glasses. :-)
>Expand on that please....
Bruce's Weathering Continent came pre-rotten and naturally Bruce asked for a
replacement. Mikado people weren't very friendly about that and
Bruce had a very hard time persuading them to give him a replacement.
They finally agreed to give Bruce a replacement, a promise which they
haven't fullfilled yet.
>I take it as flattery. But no. I only express passing interest in the
>bishojo genre, only to complete my holistic manga experience. My collection
>shall never apporach that of Nikaku's, the H Mecha of the Western Worlds.
So any plans on making overheads and slides for H Panel at AX93? :)
>Baaad mistake taking you to my Afternoon hole.
Too late. :)
>[If you're wondering, Seiya can't defend his life against TK's handspeed,
>with which he snagged the last copy of Afternoon April in store.]
It's known as "the lightning hand of TK." :-)
>"My, Albert. What big missle you've got!"
An ICBM? :)
>Do I look .....
>
> [f@ck you f@ck you f@ck you f@ck you f@ck you]
>
>.... like I cared?
So how are you doing in Irvine?
>But not as bad as your Sunday stack will be, when it starts talking back to
>you in 5 years.
Don't worry. My room will be *relatively* clean after AX 93. :)
>Well, they really have a way of rubbing off each other in NewType.
I'm afraid he'll do the same at AX 93.
>Don't make me join CA-E. You wouldn't like me when I join CA-E.
Well, you can always rent it from Idol Land. :)
>And I really REALLY thought this whole thread died. Guess it's Back to the
>Noise.
Noise's Counterattack. The Dark Noise of Destruction, The Sailor
Noise, etc...
>Okay, here's an old one:
>
>Q: What do you call a new cyborg?
>
>A: A Baby Boomer.
>
>[Ack. Barf. Cough. Thud.]
That's laaaaaame. :)
>Getting there.
Good.
>Did I mention I like Golden Wolf forwards and back? ^_^;;
Care to explain in detail? :)
>Want to buy Deki wa Kaisoku series for the heck of it?! 10 lbs of free
>wrapping papers included.
NOOOOOO! Looks like no one wants Lodoss War LDs. :(
>[Curious how everytime TK comes back from LA, he's silence on the net for 2-3
>days. Predictably, after the highs come lows, and his activies increase in
>quality and quantity the longer he spends in The City Without a Kino. If I
>were paying for newsfeeds, it might be cheaper to send a $5 manga every other
>day to a roof leaking apartment in SD.]
That sounds like a good idea. But $5 manga/2 days is not enough to
keep me silent. I think you know that better than anyone else on
Earth. :-)
>Tell me, NewType expert, what happened in the last 12 installments of
>Marionette Gen?
NOTHING! MG has no plot whatsoever. Drawing manga never has been so
easy. :-)
>Can we say -- Color?
24-bit JPEG?
>As Afternoon gets bigger, it might just be practical to stuff a timed
>explosive in one of them. When are you coming up again?
In near future. That's all I can say now.
I'll be back.
>I de-stabilize for $2/hr.
So how much do I have to pay to have you stabilized? :-)
>Japan Video in SF has a copy of Minna Agechau Live. Someone upthere will
>have to fetch it of AXTV.
You mean IXTV, right? :-)
>And I'm only about 100 miles closer to Ranm .... Idol Land than you are.
Nijiya happened to have Captain Tailor 5-8, BTW. :)
>Any chance we're too critical of Asamiya-sensei?
>
>btw, Vagrant SAAAAAAUCKS!!
Mobius Klein SUCKS. Silent Mobius Sucks. Assembler 0X sucks.
>Kamui is going to do his twin sister(or brother) thou. The reader is always
>right.
So have you come up with a story for The Affairs in Kamui-kun's
Family?
>Your noise level has increased significantly. Do keep it up.
Thank you. I'm trying real hard. :)
>Heeey, that sounds like Otomo......
Otomo? Who is that? :-)
>Dakara, henna Nihongo o tsukatte NOISE kamoshiremasenka?
>
>[Note: Shampoo Japanese]
I like Sakuma Rei in Nina mode better. :-)
Tonghyun
Alan Takahashi
>>Yeah, alt.manga will NEVER die unless someone kill either of us. :-)
>
>I warn you! Don't give them any ideas.
>
>>Then who is their father? :-)
>
>Mr. Kadokawa?
>
After a while of this, I thought of posting a question as to what
alt.manga was for anymore...
...but I decided not to... :-)
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"When you need to knock on wood is when you realize the world's
composed of aluminum and vinyl." -- Flugg's Law
david mou
>well. :( Let's start "Kikuchi Watch", a monthly list of people
>who're infected with the dreaded disease. :-)
Speaking of Kikuchi (something we've been doing for, say, the past
months?), I think Asamiya is pulling a CLAMP on us in Assembler 0X.
Having a new character who looks like Compiler is one thing, and having
her next to someone who looks like Toshi is, perhaps, a bad coincidence.
But the Jaguar?! This manga has got to die! [Quote from Iain].
Nanno Koto (yeah, that's the name listed on Golden Wolf) has a bad case of
split personalities, with Ito Takehiko being one of them. If a group is
going to use an alias, make sure they're artistically consistent with it.
Asamiya, well beloved on a.m. as he is, at least sticks to his art.
>>What ever happened to FRHS OAV?
>
>Dunno. A new drama CD is coming out, though.
The OAV was announced when I started picking up Comp on regular basis,
which was in the late 90's. I think the project was later put back on
shelves, reason perhaps being that Kadokawa only kisses one ass at a time.
Guess I don't have to tell you which ass that was. :-)
And where is FRHS? It's not in Comp and it's not in Gao either. I
thought Ito was the first to leave Comp.
>After 10 years of blood and sweat, I finally aqcuired a special
>power, which allows me to pick up mangas at the speed of light. :-)
>Those who live idly in manga-rich environment will never be able to
>master this power. :-)
Then I suppose what you don't know won't hurt... (see below)
>Or Matsumoto needs a new pair of glasses. :-)
I think Matsumoto is the type who doesn't draw unless he absolutely has
to. Hopefully when he runs out of rent money he'll draw another volume of
SS. Maybe he's planning a new project for SJ right now, it having
recycled most of its "manga masters" of late. Possibilities include
Coconut Ave. for SJ, Chocolate Blvd. for SuperJ, and even Lemon Lane for
YJ.
>Bruce's Weathering Continent .....
And to think I gave them (Mikado) a freebie poster in SDCon.
>So any plans on making overheads and slides for H Panel at AX93? :)
Slides? Ha!! Multimedia or bust!
>I'm afraid he'll do the same at AX 93.
"You have just finished <insert flop>. What are you going to do next?"
"I'm going to <insert plug>!"
>Well, you can always rent it from Idol Land. :)
Yeah. I didn't know about the great rental plan there either until you
showed up. $1 for 3 days per 2 hr tape of the latest TV series. Not bad
t'at t'all. I hope you've mailed your tapes back to them already.
>Noise's Counterattack. The Dark Noise of Destruction, The Sailor
>Noise, etc...
Sorry. But somebody just complained. :-P Think it's about time we wind
down.
>That's laaaaaame. :)
Lame joke taken, 2.
>>Did I mention I like Golden Wolf forwards and back? ^_^;;
>
>Care to explain in detail? :)
May again be mistaken identity, but Golden Wolf has Ito Takehiko's
trademark of really idiotic bad guys. This manga can stand pretty well
even without the sex, which are mostly cosmetic anyway. On the scale of 5
ICBM's, I give it 4.5. :-)
>NOOOOOO! Looks like no one wants Lodoss War LDs. :(
Tempo is selling overstocked Lodoss LD's, new too, at 80% of what LP or M
charges. I think I'll keep them for the heck of it. If I ever pick up
airsoft or BB's, I can use them to improve my marksmanship.
>That sounds like a good idea. But $5 manga/2 days is not enough to
>keep me silent. I think you know that better than anyone else on
>Earth. :-)
I'm trying to be realistic here. Who knows how many net admins are
thinking of the same thing.
Idol Land rents mangas too. They used to have some out of print Yui
Toshiki and Moriyama Tou stuffs. Unfortunately somebody who understands
their values snagged them before I could. Too bad. The set of Minna
Agechau is still there though. :-P
>In near future. That's all I can say now.
Let me tell you what I saw in Torrence Asa on Wed. 2 copies of Wings, 1
AMG #8, 0 Gaos (guess why), and a couple more Genki's. See you there next
month. :-P
I think Sorcerer Hunter will be big. It's getting better.
>You mean IXTV, right? :-)
You wonder what goes through the Video Coordinator's mind when he sees
plans for a project he totally disapproves being openly discussed as if
they're actually going to happen........
>Nijiya happened to have Captain Tailor 5-8, BTW. :)
Doth you volunteer for a Capt Taylor Panel?
>Mobius Klein SUCKS. Silent Mobius Sucks. Assembler 0X sucks.
You liked Gunhed?
>So have you come up with a story for The Affairs in Kamui-kun's
>Family?
As if I have it planned out. ^_^;; One way to get over a writer's block
is not think about it.
>Thank you. I'm trying real hard. :)
Don't think it's working though. Real noisemaker makes everyone around
him better noisemakers, sort of like a point guard in basketball.
>Otomo? Who is that? :-)
I donno. Must be a new guy. I see a bunch of his manga <something> Vol.6
for sale in CM Kino, though. They must think highly of that rookie to
charge $16.40 for that.
>I like Sakuma Rei in Nina mode better. :-)
Airhead Power 93.
--
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dm...@orion.acs.uci.edu ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu studio 3x3 ^ ^
Did I mention there's a used manga/novel store in L.A.?
Iain Sinclair
>Having a new character who looks like Compiler is one thing, and having
>her next to someone who looks like Toshi is, perhaps, a bad coincidence.
>But the Jaguar?! This manga has got to die! [Quote from Iain].
Actually, after Compiler's lousy ending, I had hopes that Assembler 0X
might actually be better, that there would be a manga with a fresh,
interesting approach. But it looks as though Asamiya has tried far too
hard (or worse still, not at all), and it seems to have failed abysmally on
all counts.
0X was Asamiya's last chance to redeem himself in my eyes. (Dark Angel
has been a complete joke lately, too. Just about anybody could come up with
something better, and more of it! Provided they had Studio Tron, naturally.)
>And where is FRHS? It's not in Comp and it's not in Gao either. I
>thought Ito was the first to leave Comp.
You guys have been talking about Comp ever since a.m came into being.
But I never found either Gao, Comp or Comp tankoubons down here (despite
placing orders). Did I miss anything? (really).
>Sorry. But somebody just complained. :-P Think it's about time we wind
>down.
Now you'll never last longer than Dragonball. And if I keep posting, you
won't last longer than an Afternoon manga with a 4-digit page number..
In fact, I'm only posting because it was asserted a while back that
no manga adaptation of anime ever comes out better than the anime.
But I couldn't let that pass without mentioning Takezaki's AD Police
25:00. It surpasses the original anime, alright. :-) I never saw
all the dumb things in anime satirised as well as they were in 25:00.
>>Nijiya happened to have Captain Tailor 5-8, BTW. :)
>Doth you volunteer for a Capt Taylor Panel?
Someone has to decide on a proper romanization of "T[a][i|y]l[e|o]r" first.
:-)
>I donno. Must be a new guy. I see a bunch of his manga <something> Vol.6
>for sale in CM Kino, though. They must think highly of that rookie to
>charge $16.40 for that.
Probably worth every cent. Though I can't say the same about the first
1/2 of <something>. All the same, <something> is prboably a pretty major
reason why mangas today have progressed beyond Yokoyama Mitsuteru-type
stuff.
So today we have Asamiya-type stuff! Maybe this is the kind of
evolution that rookie was talking about.
--
Iain Sinclair axo...@socs.uts.edu.au
David Mou
>
>Actually, after Compiler's lousy ending, I had hopes that Assembler 0X
>might actually be better, that there would be a manga with a fresh,
>interesting approach. But it looks as though Asamiya has tried far too
>hard (or worse still, not at all), and it seems to have failed abysmally on
>all counts.
I have the feeling I'm the only living person who enjoyed (little as it is)
Compiler vol.3. One lone bright spot in it is the SD Ray Gun episode.
You just don't know how bad something can get until it gets worse, as in 0X.
>0X was Asamiya's last chance to redeem himself in my eyes. (Dark Angel
>has been a complete joke lately, too. Just about anybody could come up with
>something better, and more of it! Provided they had Studio Tron, naturally.)
Curious how, in another time and place not so far away, history repeats
itself. Matsumoto made big time splash with his assistants, Studio Wave
I think it's called, and now we all know how #^%@!^% he is. Maybe we should
have a Studio Tron watch. And who knows, 5 years from now another Okazaki
Takeshi might emerge from it.
>You guys have been talking about Comp ever since a.m came into being.
>But I never found either Gao, Comp or Comp tankoubons down here (despite
>placing orders). Did I miss anything? (really).
You missed absolutely nothing in recent Comp's. Come to think of it, the
magazine starts going downhill by late 90, which incidentally was the time
I begin collecting them (along with Afternoons) in earnest.
TK, "You know, Dave, every magazine began to go downhill as soon as you
subscribe them."
DM, "Well, I'm thinking about subscribing Wings and Genki."
TK, "DON'T!!"
You didn't miss that much in Comp-turned-Gao either. The only thing I really
follow, FRHS, disappeared. Angel Paradigm isn't the same after it turned
Angel Arms. Mobius Bleah is ..... The Rai thingy is looking like Romance
of the Three Kingdoms by the issues. Loan Knight isn't going anywhere
(although that's not a problem in this story). Y's is lost. The only
surprise in it is the Sorcerer Hunter, but I would no longer buy a magazine
for just that one title.
Curiously, some artists you thought left Comp for good are beginning to come
back. I don't think we've seen the last of Comp vs. Gao yet.
>Now you'll never last longer than Dragonball. And if I keep posting, you
>won't last longer than an Afternoon manga with a 4-digit page number..
What they'd do in Japan is to call it "Manga and Noise - Z"
>In fact, I'm only posting because it was asserted a while back that
>no manga adaptation of anime ever comes out better than the anime.
>But I couldn't let that pass without mentioning Takezaki's AD Police
>25:00. It surpasses the original anime, alright. :-) I never saw
>all the dumb things in anime satirised as well as they were in 25:00.
That is when you have the good fortune of landing a very good artist to
do a very uninteresting anime. Unfortunately, the stars don't align that
often.
>Probably worth every cent. Though I can't say the same about the first
>1/2 of <something>. All the same, <something> is prboably a pretty major
>reason why mangas today have progressed beyond Yokoyama Mitsuteru-type
>stuff.
Yokoyama is not bad, mind you. I liked Babel 2 Sei quite a lot. Can't say
the same thing for his historical/educational stuffs.
>So today we have Asamiya-type stuff! Maybe this is the kind of
>evolution that rookie was talking about.
But think what could blossom from the break-up of Studio Tron. A
chemist can supply the cyanide, and the opportunity awaits in the AX
Green Room.
Noise aside, I must note that Under the Sky (the Chinese thingy) also
has the greatest assembly of Manhua assistants in existance. Each is capable
of running his own show, but stuck together for Master Mah and his Wind &
Cloud project. They would regularly hold meetings and decide, as a group, the
direction the story shall take. Mah, at last, is a man with enough Chi
to be worthy of such a cast.
dnab
Tonghyun Kim
Now the time has come to resurrect a dead thread...
In article <1oui2l$c...@agate.berkeley.edu> ph11...@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou) writes:
>
>Speaking of Kikuchi (something we've been doing for, say, the past
>months?), I think Asamiya is pulling a CLAMP on us in Assembler 0X.
>Having a new character who looks like Compiler is one thing, and having
>her next to someone who looks like Toshi is, perhaps, a bad coincidence.
>But the Jaguar?! This manga has got to die! [Quote from Iain].
Just take the Macintosh away from the man. I think the man has been
playing with Photoshop too much that his brain melted.
Kukuchi is a disgrace to Macusers around the world!
>Nanno Koto (yeah, that's the name listed on Golden Wolf) has a bad case of
>split personalities, with Ito Takehiko being one of them. If a group is
>going to use an alias, make sure they're artistically consistent with it.
>Asamiya, well beloved on a.m. as he is, at least sticks to his art.
I haven't read any Nanno Koto stuff. Expect me to raid your place
again in near future. Don't say I didn't warn you.
So what is this Goldenwolf about (I mean storywise)?
>The OAV was announced when I started picking up Comp on regular basis,
>which was in the late 90's. I think the project was later put back on
>shelves, reason perhaps being that Kadokawa only kisses one ass at a time.
>Guess I don't have to tell you which ass that was. :-)
It's one of those vaporwares. I don't think FRHS is popular enough
for Kadokawa to invest large amount of money on advertising (they
don't put much money on animation anyway)
>And where is FRHS? It's not in Comp and it's not in Gao either. I
>thought Ito was the first to leave Comp.
I guess Ito Takehiko is busy doing side stories for KO Seiki for
Comic Dragon.
>Then I suppose what you don't know won't hurt... (see below)
Explain in detail. :)
>I think Matsumoto is the type who doesn't draw unless he absolutely has
>to. Hopefully when he runs out of rent money he'll draw another volume of
>SS. Maybe he's planning a new project for SJ right now, it having
>recycled most of its "manga masters" of late. Possibilities include
>Coconut Ave. for SJ, Chocolate Blvd. for SuperJ, and even Lemon Lane for
>YJ.
I think Matsumoto already forgot how to draw. :-) He might have had
some talents but he didn't meet mental/physical requirements to
survive in manga industry. I guess he'll be joining the list of
forgotten mangaka pretty soon. :(
>And to think I gave them (Mikado) a freebie poster in SDCon.
You're still inexperienced...
>Slides? Ha!! Multimedia or bust!
You already made quicktime movie presentation for AX93? Geez, you're
such an industrious person. :)
>"You have just finished <insert flop>. What are you going to do next?"
>"I'm going to <insert plug>!"
Mark (Simmons) will be bringing some spices to help us roast Kikuchi
at AX93. :-)
>Yeah. I didn't know about the great rental plan there either until you
>showed up. $1 for 3 days per 2 hr tape of the latest TV series. Not bad
>t'at t'all. I hope you've mailed your tapes back to them already.
I did. It costed me only $4.85 to mail 6 tapes back by priority
mail. Not a bad bargain considering Idol Lands's great selection.
:)
>Sorry. But somebody just complained. :-P Think it's about time we wind
>down.
Do we really care? :) I don't think there are more than 10 people
who read this EXCELLENT newsgroup. :)
>May again be mistaken identity, but Golden Wolf has Ito Takehiko's
>trademark of really idiotic bad guys. This manga can stand pretty well
>even without the sex, which are mostly cosmetic anyway. On the scale of 5
>ICBM's, I give it 4.5. :-)
Well, there are lots of manga/anime with bad guys as idiotic as IT
manga. GR and Sailor Moon are good examples of this.
>Tempo is selling overstocked Lodoss LD's, new too, at 80% of what LP or M
>charges. I think I'll keep them for the heck of it. If I ever pick up
>airsoft or BB's, I can use them to improve my marksmanship.
Well, I found the buyer for my Lodoss LDs. :) If you try hard
enough, you'll be able to get some $$$$ to buy more H manga. :-)
>I'm trying to be realistic here. Who knows how many net admins are
>thinking of the same thing.
Well, as long as ocf and sdcc keep carrying alt.manga, I don't care
what other net admins think. :-)
>Idol Land rents mangas too. They used to have some out of print Yui
>Toshiki and Moriyama Tou stuffs. Unfortunately somebody who understands
>their values snagged them before I could. Too bad. The set of Minna
>Agechau is still there though. :-P
I'm not that into H manga, at least not enough to rent mangas from
Idol Land and ship back to them by priority mail.
>Let me tell you what I saw in Torrence Asa on Wed. 2 copies of Wings, 1
>AMG #8, 0 Gaos (guess why), and a couple more Genki's. See you there next
>month. :-P
Man, I'm broke. I did some calculation and found out I spent nearly
$1000 on manga & novels on march. :(
>I think Sorcerer Hunter will be big. It's getting better.
So when will the compilation volume come out?
>You wonder what goes through the Video Coordinator's mind when he sees
>plans for a project he totally disapproves being openly discussed as if
>they're actually going to happen........
So Patrick doesn't like the idea of IXTV? That's too bad. I thought
it was such a great idea.
BTW, the name of our table will be MANGA NO MORE. :-)
>Doth you volunteer for a Capt Taylor Panel?
That doesn't sound too bad. :)
>You liked Gunhed?
NOOOOOOO.
>As if I have it planned out. ^_^;; One way to get over a writer's block
>is not think about it.
I think I gave you more than enough time to think. :)
>Don't think it's working though. Real noisemaker makes everyone around
>him better noisemakers, sort of like a point guard in basketball.
MOUshi wake arimasen. I'm still inexperienced...
>I donno. Must be a new guy. I see a bunch of his manga <something> Vol.6
>for sale in CM Kino, though. They must think highly of that rookie to
>charge $16.40 for that.
Geez, there goes another $16.40. I don't like AKIRA anymore but I
have to get it to complete my collection. :-)
>Airhead Power 93.
Who can beat Mihoshi from Tenchi Muyou? :)
> Did I mention there's a used manga/novel store in L.A.?
NO. I don't buy used manga/novel. But I'd like to know their address
just for the heck of it. :)
Tonghyun
Tonghyun Kim
>
>"Manga and noise must die, die..."
Not in our lifetime. :-)
>Yui Toshiki may have gone Photoshop crazy, but he's still producing
>quality work.
He knows how to use Mac but Kikuchi obviously doesn't. That makes a
BIG difference.
>Next thing you know we blame the gum he chews. Face it! He sucks
>and people love him.
Not for long. Even otaku's patience has its limit.
>Freeway 5 mining in progress.
"I'm just gonna fly away..."
- Condition Green (Patlabor 2nd OP) -
[Description of Golden Wolf deleted.]
Hmm...that's one of the lamest plot I've ever heard. I think I can
pass on that one.
>There are many OAVs that were based on not-popular-enough stuffs.
>Besides, being popular doesn't guarantee high production value. An
>OAV series with fitting name comes to mind.
Kadokawa is a special case, since they ONLY animate manga/novels
which are very popular. Of course, most of stuff they produce are
badly butchered compared to the original.
>Not that it matters to you, but I think CM Kino is having another
>sale again. 4/2-4, with magazines only. Kino there doesn't have
>that great a magazine selection anyway. I picked up Slam Dunk #12
>and Juliet #3 there though.
Thanks for the info, although I have very little use for it. :-)
Any news on Tokyo Babylon vol.5?
>[Note about Juliet #3, get it before it gets banned. :-)]
And sell it at a rip-off price later? :-)
>Waaay back when I watched the KOR pilot OAV, there was a Matsumoto
>close-up tagged along at the end. As I recall, the footage made it
>look like he sketched->inked the whole thing by himself. Yeah,
>right.
Well, that's more than 6 years ago! 6 year is more than enough time
to turn an once talented artist into a living garbage. :(
Once I was so crazy about KOR....
>Still waiting for Hojo's first post-CH flop.
Short stories he did after the end of CH are kinda corny. Hojo is
another person on Kikuchi Watch List.
>Then again, the highlight of my life came when I actually made money
>off (LP no) Elton, ca$h too, with this now irreputed poster. You
>think people now will buy it just because it's illegal?
At least it'll sell better at Anime Expo than Comic Con. You might
be a rich man after the convention. :)
>I'm not. One of your neighbors is. :-P
How could I have forgot the great master! Shame on me! :-)
>He's not reading this I hope. ^_^;;
>
>Mark, "I knew it! Being associated with AB will only bring me
>trouble!!"
Mark asked me if you're still alive. So I told him that you're alive
and well in Irvine with 1600 Gundam wallpapers. :)
>But Idol Land don't mail tapes to you.... Do they?!?!
>(Japanese redefines Quality Service once again.)
Well, with Nijiya now carrying Sailor Moon and Captain Tailor, the
value of IL has decreased significantly. :)
>10!? That is 42.86% larger than last count. We have to be careful
>of what we say nowadays. Like I said before, this thread dies when
>(1) one of us is no longer, or (2) somebody says "SHADDUP!"
Let me see wqho're reading our excellent newgroup.
Iain, CPK, Paul, Dave C., Albert, you and me. I guess that makes 7
of us. Time for Alt 7 fanfic (parody of Cult Seven = 7 Otakus)? :-)
>But certain writer/artist's bad guys are just predictably idiotic,
>which is why it's tough, for me, to write something that looks like
>Kusunoki's. AMG was easy because it's brain-dead to start with.
Should I send BlackJack or Super Doctor K to revive your brain? :-)
>Acronyms are flying everywhere. What's GR?
GR = Giant Robo. Episode 2 was laaame, especially that stupid Ivan
guy.
>The more pressing need is to get $$$$ for food. Then again, you may
>ask where did my food $$$$ go......
"Will give poster for Food." :-)
>Speaking of Lodoss, how are those dojin scans (and for that matter,
>AMG scans) coming along? You telling me to get on working? Eh?!
I started scanning some of them. But it looks like I'll have to scan
them in Grayscale mode due to excessive use of halftones. :)
I'll try to get the scanning done by the end of weekend.
>Now you've named the necessary net admins to effectively cut off 90%
>of a.m. noise. With a.m. effectivly ruined, perhaps it's time to
>turn to the rec turf. heh heh.
I noticed that you already made your move on rec.arts.manga. :-)
>Never said about renting. While others do their tape hunting, I
>savor my moments there elsewhere. Besides, IL seems to have a
>disciplined manga agent. All of their titles, mostly non-H anyway,
>are complete and up to date.
So are my collections. :-) Maybe it's about time I start manga
rental business. :-)
>Then again, why rent when you can order, keep, and have them soaked.
Don't worry. I have dried all my soaked mangas. :-)
>I follow the Chinese principle "small stream flows longer." $1k
>would have lasted 4 months for me. Maybe you(we) should do what your
>anonymous neighbor is doing, and start dumping things NOW.
That's why I sold LDs I don't need....ONLY to buy new LDs. :-) I
just ordered Greenwood Vol. 3 and AMG! Vol.1.
>It'll be a while. So far there are only 7 stories made available on
>Comp/Gao. The usual smart thing is to hold your breath, drop the
>magazine, and wait for the compilation.
Too bad. I guess I will have to wait until late summer-fall to see
the compilation of Sorcerer Hunter. I liked the manga a lot.
>Wait, I thought AXTV is Mark's turf. Have I been skinning the wrong
>cat lately?! If that's the case, Video Room will resemble Tokyo in
>1999.
Which Mark? :-)
IN which manga? There are several different versions of Tokyo in
1999. :-)
>I was more inclined towards "Shan-ga-ri-ra". Or cornier "Manga-
>rira". :-P
It's a parody of Manga no Mori, who wields the Infinity Profit
Gaunlet. :-)
>Actually, what we need is a Fujishima panel. He's someone I'll be
>looking forward to see if he gets invited for 94. Should and when
>that happens, a.m. will be busy again this time next year. @_@
Well, start bugging Mike then. :) Mike is the man with the power to
bring guests. :)
>Speaking of wanna-comes, Okazaki Takeshi would make a good choice
>next year as well. Genki is a bi-monthly, and the guy only draw
>every other issue, so there isn't enough materials for him to screw
>up within a year! Then again, we should hear something about
>Elementalor anime by then. Ripe to shread.
I doubt that. None of Okazaki stuff are popular in US and I don't
think they'll get very popular either.
>Unfortunately Asamiya didn't draw enough flops. I think we're
>running out of materials to shread him with.
Well, he is restarting Silent Mobius in Comic Dragon. We'll have
more fun roasting Asamiya when it comes out. :)
>I've thought about it, and the story seems to get longer by the days.
>Not a good sign. The length itself will discourage anyone from
>attempting it. (7 chapters for each of Kamui's mothers, not to
>mention possible sibling rivalries.)
Start writing. You can always compress/edit later. :)
>Actually, me think the noisiness is beginning to rub off on others.
>All signs are good for a possible cross-group flame war with r.a.a.
>Let's see, what can we talk about to insinuate fire? Miyazaki losing
>his touch?
Frankly I think Miyazaki is losing his touch. I love his earlier
stuff like Conan, Laputa, Nausicaa and Totoro but I'm TOTALLY
unimpressed by his recent stuff like Omoide Poroporo and Porco
Rosso.
>The 20+ copies of Akira #6 are no longer at CM Kino, when I checked
>again yesterday. Better luck elsewhere.
Good. I can use that $16.40 for other things then. :)
>The idea woman for a J-Otaku? And you wonder why the Bubble Economy
>is bursting.
How about an airhead panel? There are more than enough airheads in
anime/manga to run a successful panel. :-)
>And tell you my secret used manga hole in L.A.......?! Naaaah.
Reveal it now or I'll send you foul spells using e-mail. :-)
(Sorry, I don't have a fax)
>(GSpotMikami summery in progress.)
Did you know that Tsuru Hiromi is playing Mikami? :)
Tonghyun
david mou
>>"Manga and noise must die, die..."
>
>Not in our lifetime. :-)
That means I'll never see the end of Dragonball as well. ;_;
>He knows how to use Mac but Kikuchi obviously doesn't. That makes a
>BIG difference.
Apple forgot to translate a fine print in Mac manual into Japanese.
"Intuition interface may permanently impair weaker minds. Use with
extreme caution."
>Not for long. Even otaku's patience has its limit.
Well then, tell me, if you see a copy of Comic Dragon May in Asa,
won't you pick it up?
>[Description of Golden Wolf deleted.]
>
>Hmm...that's one of the lamest plot I've ever heard. I think I can
>pass on that one.
I don't blame you, but you really shouldn't expect too much story
from an H manga. I, for one, never had any problem with brain-dead
stories, hence a greater tolerance. Real H-fans are hard to please;
all they want to see are tits, and yet they want them different than
the rest.
Besides, seeing Ito-character lookalikes slamming each other is fun
all by itself. :-P
>Kadokawa is a special case, since they ONLY animate manga/novels
>which are very popular. Of course, most of stuff they produce are
>badly butchered compared to the original.
The one anime from Kadokawa I haven't got sick of is Take the X-
Train. It is from Kadokawa, right? ^^;;
>Thanks for the info, although I have very little use for it. :-)
Fine. Next time when you hear a Kino sale from me, it would be over
in 45 minutes after you receive the message. :-P
>Any news on Tokyo Babylon vol.5?
When I find it and you still haven't, you'll know. heh heh
>And sell it at a rip-off price later? :-)
Hey! I still have Angel 1-3 I could unload at aforementioned
condition. D.C. must be coughing blood right now.
>Well, that's more than 6 years ago! 6 year is more than enough time
>to turn an once talented artist into a living garbage. :(
Living garbage... a good one. I like that. Shonen Jump has great
ability of cranking them out.
>Once I was so crazy about KOR....
My fault. I started shreadding everything I read, and might rub off
on you. You know... Ningyo no Kizu isn't so hot, now I think about
it.
>Short stories he did after the end of CH are kinda corny. Hojo is
>another person on Kikuchi Watch List.
Hojo has always been corny, and I have no grudge against him for
that. But that guy has got to do something other than studs meet
babes.
>At least it'll sell better at Anime Expo than Comic Con. You might
>be a rich man after the convention. :)
"Tonghyun! Bail me out!!"
"David who?"
>>I'm not. One of your neighbors is. :-P
>
>How could I have forgot the great master! Shame on me! :-)
Of the Most Dangerous Net Freaks' Neighborhoods, I think Australia
has got to take the top honor. S.F. Bay area second, S.D. 3rd, and
L.A. a distant 4th.
And where is Japan?
>Mark asked me if you're still alive. So I told him that you're alive
>and well in Irvine with 1600 Gundam wallpapers. :)
^wall^toilet
>Well, with Nijiya now carrying Sailor Moon and Captain Tailor, the
>value of IL has decreased significantly. :)
Well, you never know when you'll have the sudden urge to hang a Ranma
calendar over your (ahem) ceiling. There's only one place in the
land. Come to think of it, the Hoshikuzu Paradise OAV poster there
is the only one I've seen in the Western Hemisphere. Hmm.....
>Iain, CPK, Paul, Dave C., Albert, you and me. I guess that makes 7
>of us. Time for Alt 7 fanfic (parody of Cult Seven = 7 Otakus)? :-)
I have a feeling we're just talking to ourselves. 5 out of 7 have
better things to do with their lives than to even bother hitting
'Shift-k'.
>Should I send BlackJack or Super Doctor K to revive your brain? :-)
Speaking of brain-death, I remember somebody on the net told me he
also has a complete set of Hoshikuzu Paradise. Damn his name escapes
me. Me think he needs a shot from Dr. B as well. :-P
>GR = Giant Robo. Episode 2 was laaame, especially that stupid Ivan
>guy.
Sorry, haven't seen enough Giant Robo to shread with you. Better
luck in the A-zone.
>"Will give poster for Food." :-)
Well, I sure hope your UCH's go down well with soysauce.
>I started scanning some of them. But it looks like I'll have to scan
>them in Grayscale mode due to excessive use of halftones. :)
While you're in Photoshop, might as well add the English translations
to the bubbles as well. "You've gotta wooork!.... wooork!...."
>I'll try to get the scanning done by the end of weekend.
Don't forget the AMG postcards! I paid money for that too. :)
>I noticed that you already made your move on rec.arts.manga. :-)
r.a.m. is cheesecake. I dream for a A-zone takeover.
>So are my collections. :-) Maybe it's about time I start manga
>rental business. :-)
Chinese bookstores have been renting translated mangas for a long
while. And manga has become an indespensible part of their business
as well. I was rather surprised, however, when I first saw Idol
Land's holy shrine of rental mangas, because I had the impression the
Japanese rather buy than rent their mangas. Then again, funnier
things happen in L.A. (Almost took you to my secret Chinese manga
hole last time you came, btw.)
I can rent out my mangas too. Anyone for 40 lbs of Afternoon?
>That's why I sold LDs I don't need....ONLY to buy new LDs. :-) I
>just ordered Greenwood Vol. 3 and AMG! Vol.1.
Getting Taiho? If not I can go for that.
>Too bad. I guess I will have to wait until late summer-fall to see
>the compilation of Sorcerer Hunter. I liked the manga a lot.
It's getting better because Deela turns out to have an over
expressive sister, Shukola. This manga has premature brain-death
written all over. :->
>Which Mark? :-)
He would kill me if I spell out his last name, but it's the word for
'light sleep' spelled with a K in front, and two consonants at the
end.
>IN which manga? There are several different versions of Tokyo in
>1999. :-)
Aren't they the same? '99 Tokyo's are all screwed up anyways.
>It's a parody of Manga no Mori, who wields the Infinity Profit
>Gaunlet. :-)
In that case, what about Manga My Ass, Manga Incomprehension, or
Books California? They also weild the IPG's, and better yet, they
serve suc.... gaijin customers.
>Well, start bugging Mike then. :) Mike is the man with the power to
>bring guests. :)
Ha! I think I'm the last person on Earth capable of bugging Mike.
At least I survived him to laugh about it. ^_^
>I doubt that. None of Okazaki stuff are popular in US and I don't
>think they'll get very popular either.
And you must be wondering who brought Raika here..... ^^;;
Dare I say, I like Okazaki stuff better than Higiwara's. The smart
thing is to buy the real estate when the value is about to rise, not
while it's peaking or declining..
>Well, he is restarting Silent Mobius in Comic Dragon. We'll have
>more fun roasting Asamiya when it comes out. :)
Buy the thing just so we can shread the trash inside? Good idea.
Let me know if you find it before I do. :-)
>Start writing. You can always compress/edit later. :)
Give me a line to start with. I need a catalyst.
>Frankly I think Miyazaki is losing his touch. I love his earlier
>stuff like Conan, Laputa, Nausicaa and Totoro but I'm TOTALLY
>unimpressed by his recent stuff like Omoide Poroporo and Porco
>Rosso.
He was losing it before then. Kiki comes to mind. Oh Animage
follower, how is Nausicaa manga doing?
>Good. I can use that $16.40 for other things then. :)
One thing about CM Kino is that it has a tendency to have too much of
a 'good' thing. They should move some of their X's up North, as
they're not moving at all here. When everyone else is done with God
Save S-Kun, this place now has a stack. The point is, when America
is re-overstocked with Akira #6, you won't have to travel 40 more
miles to find it.
>How about an airhead panel? There are more than enough airheads in
>anime/manga to run a successful panel. :-)
That makes me one too.... ^_^;;
And how would you justify this panel as part of a politically correct
grand scheme for the Promotion of Japanese Animations?
>Reveal it now or I'll send you foul spells using e-mail. :-)
>(Sorry, I don't have a fax)
What does manga do to healthy minds? L.A. is like a shoebox holding
a pair of wet sneakers that's been placed in the middle of the garden
for a whole summer week. If I were you I would not open that thing
if my life depends on it.
>Did you know that Tsuru Hiromi is playing Mikami? :)
No, I did not know that. Please tell do tell us more in the GSM
panel in AX. ^_^
d.n.a.b.
(If you think I wanted a.m. to turn out this way, you must be CRAZY.)
Steven E Barnes
> In article <47...@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tk...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
> writes:
>
> >Iain, CPK, Paul, Dave C., Albert, you and me. I guess that makes 7
> >of us. Time for Alt 7 fanfic (parody of Cult Seven = 7 Otakus)? :-)
>
> I have a feeling we're just talking to ourselves. 5 out of 7 have
> better things to do with their lives than to even bother hitting
> 'Shift-k'.
Hey, I'm here too. Not being a Manga-Ou, I haven't dared
to interrupt the noise flow until now.
-steve
Tonghyun Kim
>
>That means I'll never see the end of Dragonball as well. ;_;
Of course NOT. :-)
>Apple forgot to translate a fine print in Mac manual into Japanese.
>"Intuition interface may permanently impair weaker minds. Use with
>extreme caution."
WARNING: Depsite our user-friendly operating system, Macintosh is
not meant to be used by anyone with IQ of 50 or lower.
>Well then, tell me, if you see a copy of Comic Dragon May in Asa,
>won't you pick it up?
I might. But I wouldn't enthusiastically look for it.
>I don't blame you, but you really shouldn't expect too much story
>from an H manga. I, for one, never had any problem with brain-dead
>stories, hence a greater tolerance. Real H-fans are hard to please;
>all they want to see are tits, and yet they want them different than
>the rest.
That's why I don't like most H mangas. Finding an H manga with good
story is as difficult as finding a copy of Comic Afternoon after
Dave M. passed by. :-)
>Besides, seeing Ito-character lookalikes slamming each other is fun
>all by itself. :-P
Hmm...don't they always do that?
>The one anime from Kadokawa I haven't got sick of is Take the X-
>Train. It is from Kadokawa, right? ^^;;
I haven't seen that one. My favorite Kadokawa anime is the
Weathering Continent (although it's NOT pure Kadokawa).
>Fine. Next time when you hear a Kino sale from me, it would be over
>in 45 minutes after you receive the message. :-P
Fine with me. I really gotta control my spending habit. :)
>When I find it and you still haven't, you'll know. heh heh
So that is you haven't got it yet. :)
>Hey! I still have Angel 1-3 I could unload at aforementioned
>condition. D.C. must be coughing blood right now.
Dave, there are two D. C. on the net. :)
>Living garbage... a good one. I like that. Shonen Jump has great
>ability of cranking them out.
Their stupid format and rules will convert any talented artist into
a living garbage in 2 years or less.
>My fault. I started shreadding everything I read, and might rub off
>on you. You know... Ningyo no Kizu isn't so hot, now I think about
>it.
Some of Ningyo no Kizu stuff are OK but others are just lame. I'll
add Takahashi to Kikuchi Watch List. :-)
>Hojo has always been corny, and I have no grudge against him for
>that. But that guy has got to do something other than studs meet
>babes.
Just like Ogino can't draw a manga without occult. :) Ogino should
be shot for screwing up Kujaku-Oh COMPLETELY in its horrifying
sequel, Taimaseiden.
>"Tonghyun! Bail me out!!"
>
>"David who?"
You can never have too many Daves. :-)
>Of the Most Dangerous Net Freaks' Neighborhoods, I think Australia
>has got to take the top honor. S.F. Bay area second, S.D. 3rd, and
>L.A. a distant 4th.
Dave, you forgot Irvine. :-)
>And where is Japan?
On the dark side of moon.
>^wall^toilet
They are too stiff to be of any use as toilet papers. :-)
>Well, you never know when you'll have the sudden urge to hang a Ranma
>calendar over your (ahem) ceiling. There's only one place in the
>land. Come to think of it, the Hoshikuzu Paradise OAV poster there
>is the only one I've seen in the Western Hemisphere. Hmm.....
No problem. I have several dozens of useless SS back issues to cover
my dripping ceiling. :-)
>I have a feeling we're just talking to ourselves. 5 out of 7 have
>better things to do with their lives than to even bother hitting
>'Shift-k'.
Or we are already included in their KILL file. :-)
>Speaking of brain-death, I remember somebody on the net told me he
>also has a complete set of Hoshikuzu Paradise. Damn his name escapes
>me. Me think he needs a shot from Dr. B as well. :-P
Maybe I'll get rid of it at AX 93. Its covers are H enough to fool
most otakus. :-)
>Sorry, haven't seen enough Giant Robo to shread with you. Better
>luck in the A-zone.
But you have already seen GR II with me! Come on, Dave. Don't be a
liar! :-)
>Well, I sure hope your UCH's go down well with soysauce.
Don't worry. UCH 2 is selling very well, I don't think I'll have any
copy left by AX 93. :)
>While you're in Photoshop, might as well add the English translations
>to the bubbles as well. "You've gotta wooork!.... wooork!...."
No thanks. I have better things to do than translate dojinshis. :-)
>Don't forget the AMG postcards! I paid money for that too. :)
Those are easy ones. So where should I upload those JPEGs to?
>r.a.m. is cheesecake. I dream for a A-zone takeover.
Which A-zone? It'll split into several sub-zones pretty soon. :-)
>Chinese bookstores have been renting translated mangas for a long
>while. And manga has become an indespensible part of their business
>as well. I was rather surprised, however, when I first saw Idol
>Land's holy shrine of rental mangas, because I had the impression the
>Japanese rather buy than rent their mangas. Then again, funnier
>things happen in L.A. (Almost took you to my secret Chinese manga
>hole last time you came, btw.)
I have no business with Chinese translated mangas, since I can't
read them anyway. :-)
Probably the reason that there are manga rental store in USA is the
high price of manga in USA.
>I can rent out my mangas too. Anyone for 40 lbs of Afternoon?
^^^
Tons? :-)
>Getting Taiho? If not I can go for that.
I think Taiho is another vaporware. :(
>It's getting better because Deela turns out to have an over
>expressive sister, Shukola. This manga has premature brain-death
>written all over. :->
Sounds intersting. Can I "borrow" your April Gao? :)
>He would kill me if I spell out his last name, but it's the word for
>'light sleep' spelled with a K in front, and two consonants at the
>end.
I see. It's Mark Knapp. :) But isn't Patrick supposed be the head of
video crew?
>Aren't they the same? '99 Tokyo's are all screwed up anyways.
Not to me. :)
>In that case, what about Manga My Ass, Manga Incomprehension, or
>Books California? They also weild the IPG's, and better yet, they
>serve suc.... gaijin customers.
WEll, MNM also "served" many Gaijin customers at SD Comic Con with
their infinity Profit Gaunlet. (NOTE: Infinity Profit Gaunlet is a
trademark of Manga no Mori, Inc.)
>Ha! I think I'm the last person on Earth capable of bugging Mike.
>At least I survived him to laugh about it. ^_^
Go ahead and try it. :)
>And you must be wondering who brought Raika here..... ^^;;
But does anyone like it?
>Dare I say, I like Okazaki stuff better than Higiwara's. The smart
>thing is to buy the real estate when the value is about to rise, not
>while it's peaking or declining..
Dunno. Okazaki stuff never really grabed my attention. His mangas
are OK but they're not something that excite me.
>Buy the thing just so we can shread the trash inside? Good idea.
>Let me know if you find it before I do. :-)
I'm 100% certain that you'll find it before me. I can bet my
Hoshikuzu Paradise set on it. :-)
>Give me a line to start with. I need a catalyst.
Their destiny was foreordained. :-)
>He was losing it before then. Kiki comes to mind. Oh Animage
>follower, how is Nausicaa manga doing?
Lame. I think Miyazaki needs a looooooong vacation.
>One thing about CM Kino is that it has a tendency to have too much of
>a 'good' thing. They should move some of their X's up North, as
>they're not moving at all here. When everyone else is done with God
>Save S-Kun, this place now has a stack. The point is, when America
>is re-overstocked with Akira #6, you won't have to travel 40 more
>miles to find it.
Life isn't fair, is it? :-) Forget about Akira #6, I just dropped it
off from my TO BUY list.
>That makes me one too.... ^_^;;
>
>And how would you justify this panel as part of a politically correct
>grand scheme for the Promotion of Japanese Animations?
PC? Sorry, I'm a dedicated Macuser. :)
Besides, I don't think the anime and PC go along.
>What does manga do to healthy minds? L.A. is like a shoebox holding
>a pair of wet sneakers that's been placed in the middle of the garden
>for a whole summer week. If I were you I would not open that thing
>if my life depends on it.
I can see that your mind is not healthy. :-)
>No, I did not know that. Please tell do tell us more in the GSM
>panel in AX. ^_^
PANEL NO MORE!
>(If you think I wanted a.m. to turn out this way, you must be CRAZY.)
Then what was your idea of a.m? :)
Tonghyun
David Chiu
>>Hey! I still have Angel 1-3 I could unload at aforementioned
>>condition. D.C. must be coughing blood right now.
(COUGH) (COUGH) (COUGH)
>I can see that your mind is not healthy. :-)
No sh*t SHERLOCK.
Iain Sinclair
>Hey, I'm here too. Not being a Manga-Ou, I haven't dared
>to interrupt the noise flow until now.
I wouldn't worry about it. After all, a.m is an anomaly. :-)
BTW, there is actually a manga called Manga-Oh, though I don't
know what it's about.
--
Iain Sinclair axo...@socs.uts.edu.au
david mou
>
>I wouldn't worry about it. After all, a.m is an anomaly. :-)
>
>BTW, there is actually a manga called Manga-Oh, though I don't
>know what it's about.
I think I've seen it, and that thing's been sitting in a corner of L.A. Kino
ever since it remodeled (ano hi ni kaeritai). Ever so often I would open it
and remember why I didn't buy the thing. The art is not great; it contais
poor imitations of famous manga characters; it involves mahjong; it's rather
gross in certain portions. Actually my memory of this title is rather fuzzy.
I think I'll check it out again after this message.
David
(which is to say the full length m&n is to follow after my L.A. Tour de Manga)
Tonghyun Kim
>know what it's about.
It's a crazy Parody manga. :)
Tonghyun
David Mou
>>That means I'll never see the end of Dragonball as well. ;_;
>
>Of course NOT. :-)
It won't be long before I start asking people to tell me so
'SHADDUP!'
>I might. But I wouldn't enthusiastically look for it.
You never know. Deep down inside something might say 'One more copy
left and Dave's on his way.'
>That's why I don't like most H mangas. Finding an H manga with good
>story is as difficult as finding a copy of Comic Afternoon after
>Dave M. passed by. :-)
There are, for me, two kinds of H-mangas. One kind gives its stories
the extra boost, the other serves a simpler kind of purpose (not
going into details here). The latter greatly outnumbers the former,
but that's no reason for one to stop searching for his holy grail.
:-P
btw, the sales of Afternoon have been sluggish, at best. The stack
of Aft in L.A. Asa remains one of the highest, despite the fact that
it's been sitting there for 2 weeks. The boss at Kodansha (there
must be a lone individual who made the fateful decision 'let's beef
up this magazine') bit off more than he could chew, IMO.
>Hmm...don't they always do that?
There's a new dimension in slamming. heh hee.
>I haven't seen that one. My favorite Kadokawa anime is the
>Weathering Continent (although it's NOT pure Kadokawa).
I'm surprised I still remember how to spell 'anime'. Have yet to see
Weathering Continent myself.
>Fine with me. I really gotta control my spending habit. :)
I would really like to rub in now, but it's been a slow week in the
bookstores. Perhaps next week.
L.A. Kino has one more copy of SJ Spring Special. Bastard! didn't go
very far, as usual, but I'm always impressed at Hagiwara's ability to
come up with new story twists to totally upset continuity. Anthrax
is not a demon, but transforms into a God, an angel of destruction
that is kicking everyone's ass. Yoko is in total distress because
it's totally against her belief that a God would initiate mass
carnage. Things are looking really, really bleak and only a miracle
can save them now. (Yeah yeah)
I wouldn't mind if Hagiwara goes back to SJ and start another brain
dead series. I like his junk.
>So that is you haven't got it yet. :)
You're talking to someone who can't find Young Jump 12 in a magazine
rack.... ^^;; A true manga-oh not only needs hands of lightening,
but also eyes of hawk as well.
>Dave, there are two D. C. on the net. :)
How many Dave do you know would read U-Jin... Wait, let me rephrase
that...how many Dave do you know that's a sick, perversed, no
lifer... let me try again... How many Dave do you know reads a.m....
oh forget it.
>Their stupid format and rules will convert any talented artist into
>a living garbage in 2 years or less.
How's Kadokawa faring? They're mostly monthlies, and yet brilliantly
able to destroy talents (assuming he has some to start with). The
only major publisher that maintained a sense of artistic creativity
is, IMHO, Kodansha, but not by much nowadays. It looks more manga
you read, more similar they become. Such is the tragedy of a manga
freak.
BTW, the only difference between Saint Seiya and Slam Dunk is, in SD,
they call fouls.
>Some of Ningyo no Kizu stuff are OK but others are just lame. I'll
>add Takahashi to Kikuchi Watch List. :-)
Sazan Eyes' losing it lately too........
>Just like Ogino can't draw a manga without occult. :) Ogino should
>be shot for screwing up Kujaku-Oh COMPLETELY in its horrifying
>sequel, Taimaseiden.
Algo is no occult. His editor must have told him, "If you're going
to suck, suck at something you're good at."
>You can never have too many Daves. :-)
By July I would be going by the name "Frederico Mou".
>Dave, you forgot Irvine. :-)
I've thrown in Irvine along with L.A. area, and it still rank below
top three. True otakudom is a fine balance of desperation and
resource, which means L.A. will never be one of the greats. (Much to
my relief. :-P)
>They are too stiff to be of any use as toilet papers. :-)
It depends.
"I watch anime, I read NewTypes. I LOVE mangas..... But even I can
sometimes.... (blush)..... constipate."
>No problem. I have several dozens of useless SS back issues to cover
>my dripping ceiling. :-)
So they get heavy from soaking, and fall on your face while you're
asleep? And you're still vulturing over my Afternoons?
>Or we are already included in their KILL file. :-)
I'm surprised at the lack of high temperature on a.m., despite that
we're REALLY asking for it. :-)
>Maybe I'll get rid of it at AX 93. Its covers are H enough to fool
>most otakus. :-)
Fooled me. And I was stupid enough to go for 10 more. What made you
continue?
>But you have already seen GR II with me! Come on, Dave. Don't be a
>liar! :-)
There a difference between WATCHING and 'oh it looks interesting
while I dig through your manga before you take off to San Diego and
how did UCLA do against Michigan?'
>Don't worry. UCH 2 is selling very well, I don't think I'll have any
>copy left by AX 93. :)
Let me tell you, even when they're topped with Alfredo sauce, those
Gundam posters taste like shit.
>Those are easy ones. So where should I upload those JPEGs to?
OCF is a good place. I can always get rid of the Anime directory to
make room for them. ^_^
>Which A-zone? It'll split into several sub-zones pretty soon. :-)
The most dangerous one, r.a.a.m. The initiation of your InterNet
manhood begins when you post on that group.
>I have no business with Chinese translated mangas, since I can't
>read them anyway. :-)
I mentioned it for completeness; no Tour de LA is complete without
visiting that place. You know there are two more Asahiyas in L.A.
area that neither one of us has hit yet. Imagine that.... ^_^
>Probably the reason that there are manga rental store in USA is the
>high price of manga in USA.
Manga prices? High? Never paid any attention.
>I think Taiho is another vaporware. :(
Now that's a major bummer. Wasn't it suppose to come out with AMG in
interleaving months? Now that you've mentioned it, I went back and
read (as if anyone actually does) NT #3. The official excuse was,
"it won't look good animated." Yeah right.
>Sounds intersting. Can I "borrow" your April Gao? :)
If you survive the mines on FW5, sure. Just make sure I'm not within
15' of you when you open the pages.....
>I see. It's Mark Knapp. :) But isn't Patrick supposed be the head of
>video crew?
You said it! I didn't say it and you said it! Obviously I'm as
confused with the AX hierarchy as any Live Programmer is entitled to.
>WEll, MNM also "served" many Gaijin customers at SD Comic Con with
>their infinity Profit Gaunlet. (NOTE: Infinity Profit Gaunlet is a
>trademark of Manga no Mori, Inc.)
Crooks America?
>Go ahead and try it. :)
If you survived a shark attack, you'll laugh about with your friends,
in a pub in Nebraska. :-P
>But does anyone like it?
You ask me. I gave up after vol.4 (and it's all the way up to vol.7
since last inspection). Good luck for the comic version to catch up.
>Dunno. Okazaki stuff never really grabed my attention. His mangas
>are OK but they're not something that excite me.
Blandness is one of his trade mark. At least he won't be blood
boilingly suck like You-Know-Who. Torrence Asa has 2 more copies of
Lyrical Karenchan compilation, upon last inspection.
>I'm 100% certain that you'll find it before me. I can bet my
>Hoshikuzu Paradise set on it. :-)
If that's your way of losing your Hoshikuzu Paradise, then I'll bet
mine against yours. Ha!
>Their destiny was foreordained. :-)
"Kamui was screwed before he was born." (Experimental 1st liner)
>Lame. I think Miyazaki needs a looooooong vacation.
>
>Life isn't fair, is it? :-) Forget about Akira #6, I just dropped it
>off from my TO BUY list.
You know, I just found 5 more in Torrence Asa. Yes, life isn't fair.
:-P
>Besides, I don't think the anime and PC go along.
Anime is no longer the politically correct terminology to describe
Japanese animation. Animated manga, or simply Manga, is more
acceptable. Is this a manga fan's scheme to inject a sense of
superiority over someone else's interest? You bet your life!
>I can see that your mind is not healthy. :-)
Manga rich zone makes poor otakus. I'm still no comparison with the
best.
>PANEL NO MORE!
"A panel for people who are really sick of panels."
>Then what was your idea of a.m? :)
Informative, friendly, participated, stimulating, and most
importantly, FULL OF IMPRESSED BABES!! We have a long way to go.
Now for some more noise (similar to the original manga and noise
article before Re:'s appeared on the subject heading). Torrence has
Doll #3, Codename Charmer #3, Lyrical Karenchan, Shonen Captain
April, Akira 6, and some Wings and Genki. I didn't pick up any of
these, thanks to tremendous self control and a thinning wallet. I
only got Honemade Aishide #1, which made it the lightest load
Torrence trip I ever made. Interestingly, if you just buy one volume
there, they don't bag the manga but instead wrap a paper nicely
around it. Bet it never happened to you before. :-P
Don't think you'd be interested in what I found in T-A's neighboring
store. Expectedly, they're serving their purpose right now.
Went to L.A. Kino. Not much there, but did find Fac-Tor 1 & 2, and a
copy of Anesan ha Iinchyoo. Surprises still lurk in a dying giant.
L.A. Asa had cute clerks this time, so I refrained myself. Got my
Afternoon (finally) and Comp April, the last copy of Lyrical
Karenchan there, and Lamune & 40 EX2 just for the hell of it. I know
the general rule is not to get any anime spin-off mangas; but I suck,
so there.
Then finally at CM Kino, when I really got desperate for something to
take home, I picked up Secret Society Alpha and Sweet Sangokushi.
Not bad actually, might be the best of the lot.
d.n.a.b.
(Let's go hijack Tezuka's remains.)
Hitoshi Doi
#
# Now the time has come to resurrect a dead thread...
Sorry for interrupting (and also being so late)..
# Man, I'm broke. I did some calculation and found out I spent nearly
# $1000 on manga & novels on march. :(
And I thought I went overboard by spending 4 man yen
for UFO catcher dolls and cels..
--
Hitoshi Doi, Cel Hunter Toshi d...@jrd.dec.com
ike ike go go jump! [from JUNET: d...@jrd.dec-j.co.jp]
Tonghyun Kim
>
>It won't be long before I start asking people to tell me so
>'SHADDUP!'
So is it about the time for that? :-)
>You never know. Deep down inside something might say 'One more copy
>left and Dave's on his way.'
'Hmm...maybe I can borrow his copy.' :-)
>There are, for me, two kinds of H-mangas. One kind gives its stories
>the extra boost, the other serves a simpler kind of purpose (not
>going into details here). The latter greatly outnumbers the former,
>but that's no reason for one to stop searching for his holy grail.
>:-P
Well, I'm too lazy to search for my holy grail. :-) Frankly, S/N
ratio of H-mangas is lower than even that of AM and RAM. :-)
>btw, the sales of Afternoon have been sluggish, at best. The stack
>of Aft in L.A. Asa remains one of the highest, despite the fact that
>it's been sitting there for 2 weeks. The boss at Kodansha (there
>must be a lone individual who made the fateful decision 'let's beef
>up this magazine') bit off more than he could chew, IMO.
I guess it was too heavy for most to people to carry back home. :-)
Due to non-stop expansion in volume, Afternoon has joined the league
of noizy magazines. :-) BTW, there was a magazine called Comic
Noizy, published by Model Graphix.
>I'm surprised I still remember how to spell 'anime'. Have yet to see
>Weathering Continent myself.
It's pretty good. I'll show it to you the next time you come over to my
place.
>I would really like to rub in now, but it's been a slow week in the
>bookstores. Perhaps next week.
Go ahead. I'm not afraid. :-)
>L.A. Kino has one more copy of SJ Spring Special. Bastard! didn't go
>very far, as usual, but I'm always impressed at Hagiwara's ability to
>come up with new story twists to totally upset continuity. Anthrax
>is not a demon, but transforms into a God, an angel of destruction
>that is kicking everyone's ass. Yoko is in total distress because
>it's totally against her belief that a God would initiate mass
>carnage. Things are looking really, really bleak and only a miracle
>can save them now. (Yeah yeah)
That sounds like a real brain-dead plot. Maybe Hagiwara has been
infected by Ogino Syndrome. The only cure for this disease is to go
back and read what he has written before CAREFULLY.
Oh well, I read Bastard! for the artwork, not for its story. :-)
>I wouldn't mind if Hagiwara goes back to SJ and start another brain
>dead series. I like his junk.
Hagiwara is OK at coming up with short-term plots but he just cannot
write a long story without individual plots conflicting with each
other.
>You're talking to someone who can't find Young Jump 12 in a magazine
>rack.... ^^;; A true manga-oh not only needs hands of lightening,
>but also eyes of hawk as well.
What you need is a pair of better glasses. :)
>How many Dave do you know would read U-Jin... Wait, let me rephrase
>that...how many Dave do you know that's a sick, perversed, no
>lifer... let me try again... How many Dave do you know reads a.m....
>oh forget it.
Ok. I got it. Dave, I think you better watch out for your back. :-)
>How's Kadokawa faring? They're mostly monthlies, and yet brilliantly
>able to destroy talents (assuming he has some to start with). The
>only major publisher that maintained a sense of artistic creativity
>is, IMHO, Kodansha, but not by much nowadays. It looks more manga
>you read, more similar they become. Such is the tragedy of a manga
>freak.
Dunno. I don't see any real differences bewtween 4 major publishers
(Shuueisha, Shogakukan, Kodansha and Kadokawa). None of them gives a
s*** about the quality of their manga.
>BTW, the only difference between Saint Seiya and Slam Dunk is, in SD,
>they call fouls.
I don't quite agree with that. Slam Dunk is closer to Captain
Tsubasa than Saint Seiya.
>Sazan Eyes' losing it lately too........
Kikuchi Watch List Update
--------------------------------
Kikuchi Michitaka/Kia Asamiya
Tomino Yoshiyuki
Ogino Makoto
Hagiwara Kazushi
Takada Yuzo
Hojo Tsukasa
Kurumada Masami
Miyashita Akira
Araki Hirohiko
Takahashi Rumiko
>Algo is no occult. His editor must have told him, "If you're going
>to suck, suck at something you're good at."
It is. It has too much occult elements for a cyberpunk manga.
>By July I would be going by the name "Frederico Mou".
So Frederico, how are you doing in Irvine?
>I've thrown in Irvine along with L.A. area, and it still rank below
>top three. True otakudom is a fine balance of desperation and
>resource, which means L.A. will never be one of the greats. (Much to
>my relief. :-P)
Things might change when the convention moves down to LA Area.
Actually for manga fans, LA area is the most ideal place in
America.
>"I watch anime, I read NewTypes. I LOVE mangas..... But even I can
>sometimes.... (blush)..... constipate."
So is that your life story?
>So they get heavy from soaking, and fall on your face while you're
>asleep? And you're still vulturing over my Afternoons?
DOn't worry. THere is no sign of any rain in San Diego. :)
>I'm surprised at the lack of high temperature on a.m., despite that
>we're REALLY asking for it. :-)
If you want heat, get into rec.arts.manga. :-)
>Fooled me. And I was stupid enough to go for 10 more. What made you
>continue?
To kill some time. :-)
>There a difference between WATCHING and 'oh it looks interesting
>while I dig through your manga before you take off to San Diego and
>how did UCLA do against Michigan?'
How should I know? I DON'T watch any ball games.
>Let me tell you, even when they're topped with Alfredo sauce, those
>Gundam posters taste like shit.
Then try some A-1 sauce.
>OCF is a good place. I can always get rid of the Anime directory to
>make room for them. ^_^
OK. I'll scan'em and upload them to OCF. Which directory should I
use?
>The most dangerous one, r.a.a.m. The initiation of your InterNet
>manhood begins when you post on that group.
I don't think I'll subscribe to that newsgroup.
>I mentioned it for completeness; no Tour de LA is complete without
>visiting that place. You know there are two more Asahiyas in L.A.
>area that neither one of us has hit yet. Imagine that.... ^_^
Manga Trek 6: Undicovered Asahiyas. Maybe we can try those places
next time. Who know? You might find shelves filled with all the H
mangas you want.
>Manga prices? High? Never paid any attention.
I wouldn't say $5.40 per volume is cheap. It is at least 30% higher
than what I used to pay in Korea.
>Now that's a major bummer. Wasn't it suppose to come out with AMG in
>interleaving months? Now that you've mentioned it, I went back and
>read (as if anyone actually does) NT #3. The official excuse was,
>"it won't look good animated." Yeah right.
What a laaaaaame excuse. Then why the hell they're doing AMG? I
guess Taiho just wasn't popular enough to animate. :(
>If you survive the mines on FW5, sure. Just make sure I'm not within
>15' of you when you open the pages.....
Why? Is Gao radioactive or something?
>You said it! I didn't say it and you said it! Obviously I'm as
>confused with the AX hierarchy as any Live Programmer is entitled to.
Ok, ok. It's all my fault? Happy now? :)
>Crooks America?
Hey, we're not ripping anyone off! :)
>You ask me. I gave up after vol.4 (and it's all the way up to vol.7
>since last inspection). Good luck for the comic version to catch up.
I never liked Fujiwara Kamui's manga that much. So I didn't bother to
read it.
>Blandness is one of his trade mark. At least he won't be blood
>boilingly suck like You-Know-Who. Torrence Asa has 2 more copies of
>Lyrical Karenchan compilation, upon last inspection.
I'm not interested. I think I have most of Genkis with LK and I
don't like enough to blew $12+ on it.
Okazaki might never suck like KA does but I don't think he'll get
anywhere near popular as him, either.
>If that's your way of losing your Hoshikuzu Paradise, then I'll bet
>mine against yours. Ha!
Hey, as bad as they're are, they're still worth $40 at AX. Just
think about how many afternoons $40 will buy.
>"Kamui was screwed before he was born." (Experimental 1st liner)
Doesn't everyone know that? :-)
>You know, I just found 5 more in Torrence Asa. Yes, life isn't fair.
>:-P
So did you actually buy one?
>Anime is no longer the politically correct terminology to describe
>Japanese animation. Animated manga, or simply Manga, is more
>acceptable. Is this a manga fan's scheme to inject a sense of
>superiority over someone else's interest? You bet your life!
Hey, let's not resurrect the ancient flame war on the definition of
manga and anime.
>Manga rich zone makes poor otakus. I'm still no comparison with the
>best.
SD is not a manga rich zone but I'm still poor. :-)
>"A panel for people who are really sick of panels."
Nice try, Dave.
>Informative, friendly, participated, stimulating, and most
>importantly, FULL OF IMPRESSED BABES!! We have a long way to go.
Dave, wake up. It's already morning.
>d.n.a.b.
>(Let's go hijack Tezuka's remains.)
For what?
Tonghyun
Tonghyun Kim
>
>Sorry for interrupting (and also being so late)..
Not at all. Welcome aboard! :)
># Man, I'm broke. I did some calculation and found out I spent nearly
># $1000 on manga & novels on march. :(
>
>And I thought I went overboard by spending 4 man yen
>for UFO catcher dolls and cels..
And now I'm paying the consequence... :-)
Tonghyun
frederico_mou
I don't know. I thought the thread was way past dead, and you
brought it back again. This this is beginning to resemble weekly
mangas. ^^;;
One good thing coming out of this M&N thingy is that I kicked my IRC
habit. Having to have to sit down and think about counterpunching TK
too many a good hours away from mindless (real time) midnight
squabblings.
>'Hmm...maybe I can borrow his copy.' :-)
Nonono, people in S. Cal. don't say such a thing. We say 'Hmm...
perhaps that copy will go on sale next month.'
>Well, I'm too lazy to search for my holy grail. :-) Frankly, S/N
>ratio of H-mangas is lower than even that of AM and RAM. :-)
Noise in RAM?!?! NOOOooooh!
>I guess it was too heavy for most to people to carry back home. :-)
>Due to non-stop expansion in volume, Afternoon has joined the league
>of noizy magazines. :-) BTW, there was a magazine called Comic
>Noizy, published by Model Graphix.
If they can have Do-Pe they can have anything they damn want!
As for Afternoon, I think it's getting, God forbids, thinner. I
think some ex-exec from an American candy bar company has found a job
overseas. What a way to jack up manga price from 250 to 500Y.
Now for some noise gone scientific. Here are the issue/pg#/price
breakdowns.
Issue Pgs Price
----- --- -----
(til 1/92) 346 250Y
2/92 510 350
3/92 526 350
4/92 558 380
5/92 574 380
6/92 658 430
7/92 658 430
8/92 676 430
9/92 708 440
10/92 802 460
11/92 802 460
12/92 802 460
1/93 802 460
2/93 1046 500
3/93 1014 500
4/93 1014 500
Interpret the data however you like. In my opinion the size of
Afternoon peaked in Feb, unless you want to see yet another scaling
up in May or June.
Incidentally, the 2/91 Afternoon was hailed as Extra Large, being the
Anniversary Issue weighing at 346 pgs and costing 250Y.
>Go ahead. I'm not afraid. :-)
>That sounds like a real brain-dead plot. Maybe Hagiwara has been
>infected by Ogino Syndrome. The only cure for this disease is to go
>back and read what he has written before CAREFULLY.
The man has no sense of continuity between chapters (or would he
care). Shin Hari by all account lost her virtue to Dark Schneider
before her spider chews him him. Then in the next chapter she's
armor clad (skimpy as they were) and then, damn it, lost it again to
D.S.
>Oh well, I read Bastard! for the artwork, not for its story. :-)
No kidding?! I read it just for the spells. :-P
>Hagiwara is OK at coming up with short-term plots but he just cannot
>write a long story without individual plots conflicting with each
>other.
I think he has enough short pieces to put together his own anthology.
If Matsumoto can, so can anybody.
>Ok. I got it. Dave, I think you better watch out for your back. :-)
Start calling me Fred.
>Dunno. I don't see any real differences bewtween 4 major publishers
>(Shuueisha, Shogakukan, Kodansha and Kadokawa). None of them gives a
>s*** about the quality of their manga.
And the smaller publishers are either H spinoffs of the larger ones,
or just too poor to hire descent artists. Come to think of it, why
are we still reading these junks?
>I don't quite agree with that. Slam Dunk is closer to Captain
>Tsubasa than Saint Seiya.
Fighting mangas are just martial arts derivatives of the sports
mangas. Nowadays I have problem telling which is which.
>Kikuchi Watch List Update
>--------------------------------
>Kikuchi Michitaka/Kia Asamiya
>Tomino Yoshiyuki
>Ogino Makoto
>Hagiwara Kazushi
>Takada Yuzo
>Hojo Tsukasa
>Kurumada Masami
>Miyashita Akira
>Araki Hirohiko
>Takahashi Rumiko
Lost it - Toriyama Akira
Recently lost it - Katsura Masakazu
Long lost it - Adachi Mitsuru
Losing it - Yuuki Masami
Never had it - Matsumoto Izumi
About to lose it - Fujishima Kosuke
Honorable mention - Miyazaki Hayao
Not yet, but all elements present - CLAMP
And just to piss off TK - Fujita Kazuhiro
>It is. It has too much occult elements for a cyberpunk manga.
Naah. Algo is just Ogino does Tron on acid. I know you'd buy
anything that's occult, and you would never buy into Algo. (did you?
^^;;)
>So Frederico, how are you doing in Irvine?
Donno. People are still calling me up with a name long forgotten.
>Things might change when the convention moves down to LA Area.
>Actually for manga fans, LA area is the most ideal place in
>America.
True. Bay Area is too nice a place to be a roach hotel for one long
summer weekend. L.A., on the other hand, can tolerate ANYTHING. I
can't think of one single activity that can make a dent in L.A.'s
manga/@nim# reserve.
>So is that your life story?
Just brushing up for IXTV. And so should you.....
>DOn't worry. THere is no sign of any rain in San Diego. :)
'......Number 2, "Are Kikuchi and Asamiya the same person." And the
number one most asked question in Anime Expo is "Tonghyun, did you
know a hurricane just passed through San Diego?'
>If you want heat, get into rec.arts.manga. :-)
I just don't understand. We've been asking for it and we just can't
get it. And if someone says "my neighbor's dog looks better than
Miyuki" on r.a.m. he gets flamed in no time. I donno. Something I'm
(we're) not doing right.
I think gays should be allowed shonen mangas.
There! I said it.
>To kill some time. :-)
How much March did $1k kill?
>OK. I'll scan'em and upload them to OCF. Which directory should I
>use?
There's the /upload directory under /pub/AnimeB/. It's not readable
by anonymous users, but you can still put things in there. I'll move
them to /New or /jpegs when they pop up. btw, I saw one scan in
venice /manga-samples/upload that looked awfully familiar. Next time
I went back they're not there anymore. Okashiii-na.
>I don't think I'll subscribe to that newsgroup.
You never know. Someone could very well start Anime and Noise there.
:-P
>Manga Trek 6: Undicovered Asahiyas. Maybe we can try those places
>next time. Who know? You might find shelves filled with all the H
>mangas you want.
Perhaps not H, but you never know if there's a secret shojo hole in
L.A.
>I wouldn't say $5.40 per volume is cheap. It is at least 30% higher
>than what I used to pay in Korea.
I stopped looking at the yellow receipt in Kinos after I signed for
the mangas. What I don't see won't hurt.
>What a laaaaaame excuse. Then why the hell they're doing AMG? I
>guess Taiho just wasn't popular enough to animate. :(
V-Gundam got animated because of popular demand?! Come to think of
it, the first episodes should of been aired last week. What are the
words?
>Why? Is Gao radioactive or something?
No, just that mine you'll be holding will be chemically unstable when
exposed to oxygen.
>Ok, ok. It's all my fault? Happy now? :)
Start get used to 'It ain't my fault!', as you will hear that more
often as Expo approaches.
>Hey, we're not ripping anyone off! :)
But they don't know that. Some people go to Expo expected to get
ripped off. We don't want to disappoint them. 2000 additional
illegal Lodoss War posters wouldn't hurt the cause either. :-P
>I never liked Fujiwara Kamui's manga that much. So I didn't bother
to
>read it.
In one word, it's Mada-Namuji. As for it being terribly exciting.
Yeah, terribly.
>I'm not interested. I think I have most of Genkis with LK and I
>don't like enough to blew $12+ on it.
There aren't enough Lyrical Karenchan for anyone to blow $12 on. The
thing is so thin even Kadokawa Wide can't justify that cost. It's
being listed at 650Y, and I consider that cheaper than burrowing
through the Greatest and Most Colorful @nim# Magazine of All Time.
(Then, if you just HAPPEN to get it, like I happen to get GSC, then
point well taken. :-P)
>Okazaki might never suck like KA does but I don't think he'll get
>anywhere near popular as him, either.
Want to bet?! I have 11 volumes of time killing, light hearted,
Shogakukan mangas wagered on that remark. :->
>Hey, as bad as they're are, they're still worth $40 at AX. Just
>think about how many afternoons $40 will buy.
By July, 3/4.
>Doesn't everyone know that? :-)
The more I thought about Kamui's Family Affair, the cornier the story
gets. Things are definitely not looking good. ^^;;
>So did you actually buy one?
No. I picked up the most worned copy and started tachiyume there.
When I was through I put that copy down for the next person. I never
earned $16 so quickly and easily.
>Hey, let's not resurrect the ancient flame war on the definition of
>manga and anime.
But don't you think manga is better than @nim# just as it is superior
than Western %omi$s? (If this isn't asking for it, I don't know what
is.)
>SD is not a manga rich zone but I'm still poor. :-)
200 miles round trip makes good incentive to freight off as you go.
Having Irvine in the middle doesn't help either.
>Nice try, Dave.
"A panel for people who were solicited, forced, or coerced by Dave to
do a panel."
>Dave, wake up. It's already morning.
You tell me. I pulled an all nighter and going back & forth on
UseNet I bumped into your message. 3am zoning is not a healthy
habit.
>>(Let's go hijack Tezuka's remains.)
>For what?
The ultimate manga memorabilia. Think how much cash that can fetch
at AX! (And they thought Astro Boy cels are cool.)
f.n.a.b.
Michael Edwards
> ak...@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes) writes:
> >Hey, I'm here too. Not being a Manga-Ou, I haven't dared
> >to interrupt the noise flow until now.
Me too! Me too!
> I wouldn't worry about it. After all, a.m is an anomaly. :-)
That's what I always said! Never could figure out how I can get it here at
home but not at my feed :-) The truely amazing thing is that since I
started reading(?) alt.manga my double panel LCD Zaxxon game has started to
work again. Shows the true strength of a.m :-)
Michael
--
Michael Edwards <LAND ROVER ATTACK> mich...@nsg.com.au
Sydney, Australia
Equipment: Amiga 2000 & GVP'30 33Mhz OpSys: WB2.04 Running: AmigaUUCP 1.16
Tonghyun Kim
>
>I don't know. I thought the thread was way past dead, and you
>brought it back again. This this is beginning to resemble weekly
>mangas. ^^;;
Well, wasn't that our intention in the first place? :-)
>One good thing coming out of this M&N thingy is that I kicked my IRC
>habit. Having to have to sit down and think about counterpunching TK
>too many a good hours away from mindless (real time) midnight
>squabblings.
Good. At least the amount of time you waste on the net per day is
remaining constant. :)
>Nonono, people in S. Cal. don't say such a thing. We say 'Hmm...
>perhaps that copy will go on sale next month.'
Federico, you're in S. Cal, too. :-) So have you sighted Comic
Dragon Vol. 4 yet?
>Noise in RAM?!?! NOOOooooh!
Sorry, that should be FLAME.
>If they can have Do-Pe they can have anything they damn want!
>As for Afternoon, I think it's getting, God forbids, thinner. I
>think some ex-exec from an American candy bar company has found a job
>overseas. What a way to jack up manga price from 250 to 500Y.
You can't be serious! Afternoon getting thinner? Oh no! The end of
the world is getting near!!!! Where is Kujaku? Where is Kamui?
Deliver us from evil! :-)
>Now for some noise gone scientific. Here are the issue/pg#/price
>breakdowns.
Now you sounds like a physics major. :)
[A scientific analysis of Afternoon deleted]
Frederico, you forgot S/N measurements. :)
>Interpret the data however you like. In my opinion the size of
>Afternoon peaked in Feb, unless you want to see yet another scaling
>up in May or June.
No thanks. Afternoon is already the only magazine US Priority Mail 2
pound flat rate cannot cover.
>Incidentally, the 2/91 Afternoon was hailed as Extra Large, being the
>Anniversary Issue weighing at 346 pgs and costing 250Y.
Everything is relative...
>The man has no sense of continuity between chapters (or would he
>care). Shin Hari by all account lost her virtue to Dark Schneider
>before her spider chews him him. Then in the next chapter she's
>armor clad (skimpy as they were) and then, damn it, lost it again to
>D.S.
Hmm...you're right. I guess it's Hagiwara who infected Ogino, not
the other way around. But do we expect any kind of plot continuity
from manga in Shonen Jump?
Hokuto no Ken and Otoko Jyuku are the two worst in that regard.
>No kidding?! I read it just for the spells. :-P
I think I had enough heavy meta when I was in high school.
>I think he has enough short pieces to put together his own anthology.
>If Matsumoto can, so can anybody.
Have you thought about the title?
>Start calling me Fred.
I already did.
>And the smaller publishers are either H spinoffs of the larger ones,
>or just too poor to hire descent artists. Come to think of it, why
>are we still reading these junks?
Beats me. Maybe we have too much time on our hands. :-)
>Fighting mangas are just martial arts derivatives of the sports
>mangas. Nowadays I have problem telling which is which.
True. Most fighting mangas are influenced by Ashita no Joe, which
can be clearly classified as a sports manga.
>Lost it - Toriyama Akira
He lost it a LONG time ago.
>Recently lost it - Katsura Masakazu
I think he lost it after that censorship thing.
>Long lost it - Adachi Mitsuru
Never cared for this guy.
>Losing it - Yuuki Masami
Dunno. The man draws so slow you can't tell whether he is losing it
or not. :-)
>Never had it - Matsumoto Izumi
Had assistants who had it.
>About to lose it - Fujishima Kosuke
He already did.
>Honorable mention - Miyazaki Hayao
Hagiwara syndrome - read Animage April
>Not yet, but all elements present - CLAMP
We'll have to wait and see.
>And just to piss off TK - Fujita Kazuhiro
Congratulations! You just pissed me. :-) UtT OAVs were very good,
BTW.
>Naah. Algo is just Ogino does Tron on acid. I know you'd buy
>anything that's occult, and you would never buy into Algo. (did you?
>^^;;)
I have all three volumes of Algo, whether you believe it or not.
:-)
>Donno. People are still calling me up with a name long forgotten.
Who are these outdated people?
>True. Bay Area is too nice a place to be a roach hotel for one long
>summer weekend. L.A., on the other hand, can tolerate ANYTHING. I
>can't think of one single activity that can make a dent in L.A.'s
>manga/@nim# reserve.
That depends. I don't think even all the Kinos and Asahiyas in S.
Cal. combined can handle 5000 HUNGRY otakus.
>Just brushing up for IXTV. And so should you.....
Expect Ricky and me to strike your place pretty soon...
>'......Number 2, "Are Kikuchi and Asamiya the same person." And the
>number one most asked question in Anime Expo is "Tonghyun, did you
>know a hurricane just passed through San Diego?'
I'll place buckets in proper positions before I leave, as well as
moving all important mangas to a safe place. :)
>I just don't understand. We've been asking for it and we just can't
>get it. And if someone says "my neighbor's dog looks better than
>Miyuki" on r.a.m. he gets flamed in no time. I donno. Something I'm
>(we're) not doing right.
You can't have any flames when there are less than 10 people reading
this newsgroup. I think all V*z followers left this newsgroup a
loooong time ago.
>I think gays should be allowed shonen mangas.
>
>There! I said it.
Nah, just say M*rv*l. :-) Oh well, Marvel and DC are not even worth
bashing.
>How much March did $1k kill?
I haven't had time to calculate. :-)
>There's the /upload directory under /pub/AnimeB/. It's not readable
>by anonymous users, but you can still put things in there. I'll move
>them to /New or /jpegs when they pop up. btw, I saw one scan in
>venice /manga-samples/upload that looked awfully familiar. Next time
>I went back they're not there anymore. Okashiii-na.
OK. AMG card scans will be there Sunday morning.
>You never know. Someone could very well start Anime and Noise there.
>:-P
Well, raa is already noisier than am. :-)
>Perhaps not H, but you never know if there's a secret shojo hole in
>L.A.
Not interested. Good shojo stuff are rare these days. :(
>I stopped looking at the yellow receipt in Kinos after I signed for
>the mangas. What I don't see won't hurt.
Good for your mental health. I almost fainted after finding out how
much I spent in March. :-)
>V-Gundam got animated because of popular demand?! Come to think of
>it, the first episodes should of been aired last week. What are the
>words?
I don't give a Sh*t about it. You don't need to watch a total trash
like it to tell it stinks.
BTW, AMG OAV stinks, too.
>No, just that mine you'll be holding will be chemically unstable when
>exposed to oxygen.
I guess I should bring along a nitrogen tank with me.
>Start get used to 'It ain't my fault!', as you will hear that more
>often as Expo approaches.
Hey, we're not the Dirty Pair. :-)
>But they don't know that. Some people go to Expo expected to get
>ripped off. We don't want to disappoint them. 2000 additional
>illegal Lodoss War posters wouldn't hurt the cause either. :-P
So Vance is drawing a Lodoss Poster now? :-)
>There aren't enough Lyrical Karenchan for anyone to blow $12 on. The
>thing is so thin even Kadokawa Wide can't justify that cost. It's
>being listed at 650Y, and I consider that cheaper than burrowing
>through the Greatest and Most Colorful @nim# Magazine of All Time.
>(Then, if you just HAPPEN to get it, like I happen to get GSC, then
>point well taken. :-P)
EVERYTHING from Kadokawa has a horrible performance/cost ratio.
I just collect NT for the heck of it. I have NT from the very first
issue and I'll probably but the last issue of it as well. :-)
For real information, I read Animage.
>Want to bet?! I have 11 volumes of time killing, light hearted,
>Shogakukan mangas wagered on that remark. :->
Sure. But it'll take quite a while to figure out who won the bet.
>The more I thought about Kamui's Family Affair, the cornier the story
>gets. Things are definitely not looking good. ^^;;
Well, go for the lowest common denominator. :-)
>No. I picked up the most worned copy and started tachiyume there.
>When I was through I put that copy down for the next person. I never
>earned $16 so quickly and easily.
Good for your wallet. :) Bad for Kodansha. :-)
>But don't you think manga is better than @nim# just as it is superior
>than Western %omi$s? (If this isn't asking for it, I don't know what
>is.)
Of course, manga is superior to Anime. Comics? What comics?
>200 miles round trip makes good incentive to freight off as you go.
>Having Irvine in the middle doesn't help either.
Having a visa card and a telephone doesn't help, either. :-)
>"A panel for people who were solicited, forced, or coerced by Dave to
>do a panel."
Let's have a Sailor Moon/Magical Girls panel. :)
>You tell me. I pulled an all nighter and going back & forth on
>UseNet I bumped into your message. 3am zoning is not a healthy
>habit.
Hey, I usually don't go to bed until 4 am. :-)
>The ultimate manga memorabilia. Think how much cash that can fetch
>at AX! (And they thought Astro Boy cels are cool.)
Time for the Infinity Profit Gaunlet? I wonder whether Manga no Mori
people will be at AX 93.
Tonghyun
david mou
Let the record shows, you're feeding the monster, not me.
:-P
>Good. At least the amount of time you waste on the net per day is
>remaining constant. :)
But for the same amount of time, a.m. requires more effort (due to
the sheer quantity of noise). Besides, I write all my M&N's on
Microsoft Word(tm) using Amigatosh (and not costing me a cent, heh
heh).
>Federico, you're in S. Cal, too. :-) So have you sighted Comic
>Dragon Vol. 4 yet?
Is it that bi-menstrual time again? I leave the Dragon sightings to
the Epsilons. I'm afraid if I pick up one more volume of Dragon
Comics I'll end up getting all of it for the rest of my life.
>Sorry, that should be FLAME.
All I see on r.a.m. are brilliant shojo manga reviews and
discussions. Something a.m. can never apporach in terms of magnitude
and quality. There are flames on r.a.m.? (Unless I'm missing
something with /comic/a:j.)
>You can't be serious! Afternoon getting thinner? Oh no! The end of
>the world is getting near!!!! Where is Kujaku? Where is Kamui?
>Deliver us from evil! :-)
And more over, AMG will have actual character developments, the
kiseijus finds hamburgers more delicable than humans, Assembler 0X
gets funny, Family From Hell gets counseling, Rally loses her virtue,
and the entire Afternoon turns color.
That would be a good time for me to stop my subscription and wait for
the Second Coming.
>Now you sounds like a physics major. :)
I thought chemists live with charts too.
>[A scientific analysis of Afternoon deleted]
Forgot to mention, the page/price is a linearly increasing function
when curve fitted. There is a noticeable pattern.
>Frederico, you forgot S/N measurements. :)
Considered. Noise meter of a particular magazine is a strong
function of the reader, however. We might agree on a value for SJ,
but disagree to a order of magnitude for SS. Some noises still make,
nonetheless, interesting readings. Arguably, Afternoon's got a lot
of interesting readings.
>No thanks. Afternoon is already the only magazine US Priority Mail 2
>pound flat rate cannot cover.
But Afternoon still packs more mass into the volume than, say, SJ.
>Everything is relative...
And the scary thing is, what will we see Afternoons 2 years from now.
^_^;;
>Hokuto no Ken and Otoko Jyuku are the two worst in that regard.
Nooo. Otoko Juku made perfect sense to me. The bad guy's aren't
dead, they're just revived by some evil scientists. I can buy that,
can't you?
>Have you thought about the title?
"Bitches!!"
"Under the Cherry Sun"
"Crampy Gals, and Other Feminine Anomalies"?
"Things I Didn't Learn From Being a Manga Assistant"
>I already did.
No prob. Tofu-sensei.
>True. Most fighting mangas are influenced by Ashita no Joe, which
>can be clearly classified as a sports manga.
So there is one single manga to blame for all those fighting mangas?
Who can we blame for the Airheads in Hordes mangas?
>>Recently lost it - Katsura Masakazu
>
>I think he lost it after that censorship thing.
The guy is better at sticking to what he does better, short pieces
(of clothings). Woman in the Man is totally predictable, but I can
forgive it for the art, and tolerate it for its briefness.
>>Long lost it - Adachi Mitsuru
>
>Never cared for this guy.
Well, I liked Miyuki - the mother of all I Love My Sis mangas. Touch
is a wee bit long, and anything that follows are ...well, one can
only explore "She loves me, she loves me not" mangas so much.
>>Losing it - Yuuki Masami
>
>Dunno. The man draws so slow you can't tell whether he is losing it
>or not. :-)
Quality * Quantity = Constant*Exp[-t/T] | T = Characteristic Time
Scale that varies from artist to artist.
>>Never had it - Matsumoto Izumi
>
>Had assistants who had it.
And I guess they've HAD it as well. Studio Wave of 86-87 could turn
trash into gold. Can't wait for the break-up of Studio Tron.
>>About to lose it - Fujishima Kosuke
>
>He already did.
Forgot to mention, an artist's ability to create original stories
varies inversely to his tendencies to draw full page panels.
>>Honorable mention - Miyazaki Hayao
>
>Hagiwara syndrome - read Animage April
Read Animage?! Moi? Better if you tell me and save me some dough.
>>Not yet, but all elements present - CLAMP
>
>We'll have to wait and see.
8 months and counting.
Had it all and squandered it - Kitagawa Shun
>I have all three volumes of Algo, whether you believe it or not.
>:-)
"Shijirarenai! Shinjirarenai!!" ;_;
>Who are these outdated people?
Donno, but perhaps there are more manga-nime freaks named Frederico
than we think.
>That depends. I don't think even all the Kinos and Asahiyas in S.
>Cal. combined can handle 5000 HUNGRY otakus.
Nothing 2500 volumes of Nausicaa Roman Albums, 1000 copies of
Newtype, 750 copies of GSC, 500 Akiras, and 200 Dominions can't
handle. It's those 50 that you should be worring :-P
>Expect Ricky and me to strike your place pretty soon...
Did I mention I have 50% of Hiroshi H's dojin collection for a couple
weeks before I mail them out somewhere else? Not that you'll be
interested in very wet Ami-chans.
>I'll place buckets in proper positions before I leave, as well as
>moving all important mangas to a safe place. :)
Irvine is dry during summer.
>You can't have any flames when there are less than 10 people reading
>this newsgroup. I think all V*z followers left this newsgroup a
>loooong time ago.
V*z .... oh that's what CPK's Z*v thingy was. Ahahahahaa (duh)
ahahahahaha..... Having been quoted, misquoted, misinterpreted, and
generally misunderstood, I need a color war to remodel my tattered
image.
>Nah, just say M*rv*l. :-) Oh well, Marvel and DC are not even worth
>bashing.
"Why I think Cleopatra D.*. looks awfully M*rv*lous, don't you?"
>OK. AMG card scans will be there Sunday morning.
You can do the d_*.jpg thing (a la Doki^2Waku^2 electronic flyers),
and paste all 12 images onto a big one. Nothing 16 hrs of kermit
can't handle.
>Well, raa is already noisier than am. :-)
Yeah? But are they trying? I think we are.
>Not interested. Good shojo stuff are rare these days. :(
Wrong newsgroup. Might generate some cross-sub flames, but is too
deeply buried among other noises. Perhaps something on the subject
heading (All new shojo mangas sucks). Whether you believe it or not,
it'll serve the purpose.
>Good for your mental health. I almost fainted after finding out how
>much I spent in March. :-)
How about an Alt.manga Exchange Network? In AMEN, I'll show you mine
and you'll show me yours, and we can all save money.
>I don't give a Sh*t about it. You don't need to watch a total trash
>like it to tell it stinks.
Strong reaction from a G-word diehard. But you should know better
than I, one's got to be stupid in order to survive in a Gundam
universe.
>BTW, AMG OAV stinks, too.
Now there's a statement!! Bastard! stink? 5 Hardy stink? Please do
expand.
>Hey, we're not the Dirty Pair. :-)
Well, ..... naaaah.
>So Vance is drawing a Lodoss Poster now? :-)
I was about $1k short of having myself committed to that project.
Then again, suppose someone can get Yuuki's signature on some
original cel work.......
>EVERYTHING from Kadokawa has a horrible performance/cost ratio.
Having a section reserved on my bookshelf for Wide Kadokawa's, I
can't agree more. ^_;
>I just collect NT for the heck of it. I have NT from the very first
>issue and I'll probably but the last issue of it as well. :-)
Tragically, that's exactly my mentality with Afternoon and Gao(Comp)
now. Do you have a (rough) market value for your NT collection?
>For real information, I read Animage.
What happened to Anime-V and Animedia?
>Sure. But it'll take quite a while to figure out who won the bet.
As soon as Kadokawa commits on Elementalor anime (matter of time),
they'll use all its resources to hype the thing until That-Magazine
drips with color ink. And like most overhyped projects, the anime
will stink, the artist will start losing his touch, and everyone West
of the Pacific would have heard of Okazaki Takeshi. I say by late 94
Streamline would have hooked up with this guy, or you can take my
Hoshikuzu Paradise (then market value $45) home.
>Well, go for the lowest common denominator. :-)
I need one more X in order to lock into Kamui. That'll give me an
excuse to not write anything til, say, mid-August.
>Good for your wallet. :) Bad for Kodansha. :-)
Kodansha for me is relatively respectable among the big 3 1/2. I'm
sticking with Sazan Eyes til the bitter end, it seems.
>Let's have a Sailor Moon/Magical Girls panel. :)
Correction: Let's have (TK do) a Sailor Moon/Magical Girls panel.
:-P
>Hey, I usually don't go to bed until 4 am. :-)
Thanks to Daylight Saving Time, I've been able to see the sunrise for
the past week before going to bed. M&N has seriously disrupted my
biology.
>Time for the Infinity Profit Gaunlet? I wonder whether Manga no Mori
>people will be at AX 93.
Posters for dojinshis. Now there's an idea.
d.n.a.b.
Justin Bach
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>
>Let the record shows, you're feeding the monster, not me.
>:-P
Well, you can always KILL this monster by not replying to THIS message.
:-)
>But for the same amount of time, a.m. requires more effort (due to
>the sheer quantity of noise). Besides, I write all my M&N's on
>Microsoft Word(tm) using Amigatosh (and not costing me a cent, heh
>heh).
M&N? That sounds like a name for a new chocolate candy.
Anyway, I don't spend that much time writing M&N, although I'm a
very slow typist.
>Is it that bi-menstrual time again? I leave the Dragon sightings to
>the Epsilons. I'm afraid if I pick up one more volume of Dragon
>Comics I'll end up getting all of it for the rest of my life.
I'm sorry. Comic Dragon Vol.4 isn't supposed to be out until May. :)
BTW, Torrance now has Tokyo Babylon Vol.5.
>All I see on r.a.m. are brilliant shojo manga reviews and
>discussions. Something a.m. can never apporach in terms of magnitude
>and quality. There are flames on r.a.m.? (Unless I'm missing
>something with /comic/a:j.)
Hmm....I guess it's about time that I make a KILL file for anything
related with c*mic, Ma*v*l, D*, etc. That'll make my life merrier.
BTW, Wayde Higuuchi on Compuserve reported that he actually noticed
some signal on alt.manga! I guess we're not doing our job.
>And more over, AMG will have actual character developments, the
>kiseijus finds hamburgers more delicable than humans, Assembler 0X
>gets funny, Family From Hell gets counseling, Rally loses her virtue,
>and the entire Afternoon turns color.
"Lost in a world of fantasy...Look what you've done to me..."
-From Triumph's A World of Fantasy -
>That would be a good time for me to stop my subscription and wait for
>the Second Coming.
Second coming of what? Maybe Kodansha will start publishing
Comic Evening by then. :-)
>I thought chemists live with charts too.
Not as much as a physicist.
>Forgot to mention, the page/price is a linearly increasing function
>when curve fitted. There is a noticeable pattern.
I haven't noticed that. So what are the slope and the correlation
coefficient?
>Considered. Noise meter of a particular magazine is a strong
>function of the reader, however. We might agree on a value for SJ,
>but disagree to a order of magnitude for SS. Some noises still make,
>nonetheless, interesting readings. Arguably, Afternoon's got a lot
>of interesting readings.
True. I have quite a few stuff that I can tolerate in SS, while you
seem to have none. As for Afternoon, only 30% of the stuff in there
interests me, although that's still admirable, compared to most other
manga magzines.
>But Afternoon still packs more mass into the volume than, say, SJ.
Well, SJ is always an exception. :-)
>And the scary thing is, what will we see Afternoons 2 years from now.
>^_^;;
A sentient magazine? A black hole?
Afternoon: Deep Stack 9.
>Nooo. Otoko Juku made perfect sense to me. The bad guy's aren't
>dead, they're just revived by some evil scientists. I can buy that,
>can't you?
I guess you haven't read enough Otoko Juku yet. I'll wait until you
finish all 34 volumes of it. :-)
>"Bitches!!"
>"Under the Cherry Sun"
>"Crampy Gals, and Other Feminine Anomalies"?
>"Things I Didn't Learn From Being a Manga Assistant"
I like the fourth one best.
>No prob. Tofu-sensei.
Tofu-sensei? Who is he?
>So there is one single manga to blame for all those fighting mangas?
>Who can we blame for the Airheads in Hordes mangas?
Well, all classical shojo mangas have more airheads than you can
possiblt handle.
>The guy is better at sticking to what he does better, short pieces
>(of clothings). Woman in the Man is totally predictable, but I can
>forgive it for the art, and tolerate it for its briefness.
True. But short stories don't make much money for either Jump nor
the man himself.
>Quality * Quantity = Constant*Exp[-t/T] | T = Characteristic Time
>Scale that varies from artist to artist.
Care to explain how did you derive this equation?
>And I guess they've HAD it as well. Studio Wave of 86-87 could turn
>trash into gold. Can't wait for the break-up of Studio Tron.
Well, Studio TRON is capable of turing gold into lead. :-) I don't
think there are any talented people in ST.
>Forgot to mention, an artist's ability to create original stories
>varies inversely to his tendencies to draw full page panels.
Maybe, but not always. CLAMP can still come up with good original
stories, although they do lots of full page panels.
>Read Animage?! Moi? Better if you tell me and save me some dough.
OK. I'll bring it over to your place next time.
>Had it all and squandered it - Kitagawa Shun
Maybe Hagiwara infected him. :-)
I'm not so sure about this guy - Hoshisato Mochiru
>"Shijirarenai! Shinjirarenai!!" ;_;
You have to believe it.
>Donno, but perhaps there are more manga-nime freaks named Frederico
>than we think.
Really? I know lots of manga-nime freaks with the first name Dave,
though.
>Nothing 2500 volumes of Nausicaa Roman Albums, 1000 copies of
>Newtype, 750 copies of GSC, 500 Akiras, and 200 Dominions can't
>handle. It's those 50 that you should be worring :-P
Well, I got my Tokyo Babylon Vol.5. So I'm happy. :)
BTW, did you know that a branch of Yaohan will open in San Diego?
>Did I mention I have 50% of Hiroshi H's dojin collection for a couple
>weeks before I mail them out somewhere else? Not that you'll be
>interested in very wet Ami-chans.
I think we should discuss about this over e-mail. :)
>Irvine is dry during summer.
So is San Diego. :)
>V*z .... oh that's what CPK's Z*v thingy was. Ahahahahaa (duh)
>ahahahahaha..... Having been quoted, misquoted, misinterpreted, and
>generally misunderstood, I need a color war to remodel my tattered
>image.
Well, VIz isn't doing color anymore. So it's about time for you to
start another "translation war". :-)
>"Why I think Cleopatra D.*. looks awfully M*rv*lous, don't you?"
Check out "Desert Roses", too.
>You can do the d_*.jpg thing (a la Doki^2Waku^2 electronic flyers),
>and paste all 12 images onto a big one. Nothing 16 hrs of kermit
>can't handle.
So did you take a look at them?
>Yeah? But are they trying? I think we are.
They're more talented than we are. :-)
>Wrong newsgroup. Might generate some cross-sub flames, but is too
>deeply buried among other noises. Perhaps something on the subject
>heading (All new shojo mangas sucks). Whether you believe it or not,
>it'll serve the purpose.
Nah, it'll never work. We just don't have enough people on this
newsgroup to generate a flame war.
>How about an Alt.manga Exchange Network? In AMEN, I'll show you mine
>and you'll show me yours, and we can all save money.
Let's start that right now. My march frenzy left such a big hole in
my economy that I'm still suffering from it.
>Strong reaction from a G-word diehard. But you should know better
>than I, one's got to be stupid in order to survive in a Gundam
>universe.
Not really. Gundam pilots maybe stupid but not all Gundam fans are
stupid. That's why bad stuff like F-91 and ZZ failed. I think even
worse fate awaits Victory Gundamn.
>Now there's a statement!! Bastard! stink? 5 Hardy stink? Please do
>expand.
1 Hardy Gun for those who haven't seen the manga.
4 Hardy Guns for fans of manga.
>I was about $1k short of having myself committed to that project.
>Then again, suppose someone can get Yuuki's signature on some
>original cel work.......
Frederico, pleeeeeeease don't do it. Besides, it's not clear whether
Yuuki will come to AX 93 or not.
>Having a section reserved on my bookshelf for Wide Kadokawa's, I
>can't agree more. ^_;
Same here. Kadokawa widebans are especially worthless.
>Tragically, that's exactly my mentality with Afternoon and Gao(Comp)
>now. Do you have a (rough) market value for your NT collection?
Dunno. But I'll never sell them anyway.
>What happened to Anime-V and Animedia?
Plain noise.
>As soon as Kadokawa commits on Elementalor anime (matter of time),
>they'll use all its resources to hype the thing until That-Magazine
>drips with color ink. And like most overhyped projects, the anime
>will stink, the artist will start losing his touch, and everyone West
>of the Pacific would have heard of Okazaki Takeshi. I say by late 94
>Streamline would have hooked up with this guy, or you can take my
>Hoshikuzu Paradise (then market value $45) home.
Possible but not neccesarily. There are quite a few Kadokawa anime
that never really became popular over here, such as Luna Varuga, Ys,
Madara, etc. Besides, I'm pretty sure that Elementaler anime will
suck, because Okazaki's characters are hard to animate.
BTW, Exploer Wopman Ray OAV really sucked.
>I need one more X in order to lock into Kamui. That'll give me an
>excuse to not write anything til, say, mid-August.
I can let you browse my Asukas. :)
>Kodansha for me is relatively respectable among the big 3 1/2. I'm
>sticking with Sazan Eyes til the bitter end, it seems.
Same here, although I already lost interest in it. It's another
thing that I just buy for the heck of it.
>Correction: Let's have (TK do) a Sailor Moon/Magical Girls panel.
>:-P
Only if Alan Takahashi is willing to share the burden with me. :)
>Thanks to Daylight Saving Time, I've been able to see the sunrise for
>the past week before going to bed. M&N has seriously disrupted my
>biology.
Well, I always have been an extreme night person. So M&N has
not disrupted my physiology yet. At lease not YET.
Tonghyun
david mou
>:-)
Better me blame you than vice versa, maaan. This monster should go on a
diet, however.
>M&N? That sounds like a name for a new chocolate candy.
You should be glad I didn't call it Signals and Manga.
>Anyway, I don't spend that much time writing M&N, although I'm a
>very slow typist.
I make up for lack of quality by doing sheer volume, like Kodansha. :-p
>I'm sorry. Comic Dragon Vol.4 isn't supposed to be out until May. :)
The issue lists May, but mid to late April is when you should start scouting.
>BTW, Torrance now has Tokyo Babylon Vol.5.
What a surprising revalation! Any left for me?
>Hmm....I guess it's about time that I make a KILL file for anything
>related with c*mic, Ma*v*l, D*, etc. That'll make my life merrier.
/Dave/a:j :-p
>BTW, Wayde Higuuchi on Compuserve reported that he actually noticed
>some signal on alt.manga! I guess we're not doing our job.
W.H. has a kill file. See above.
While moving files around in OCF, I looked through the old alt.manga files
(intended to be a last look before I throw them away). They were funny! I
can't believe some of the things I said back in 1/92 (the cradling a.m.) We
were trashing Asamiya back then. There were talks about Cyberpunk, TK vs.
Pat, Pat vs. CPK, H vs. World, Iain talking blood, Pat talking shojo, and my
grammar was as bad as today's. ^^;;
>Second coming of what? Maybe Kodansha will start publishing
>Comic Evening by then. :-)
You wonder about the contents of Comic Midnight........
>I haven't noticed that. So what are the slope and the correlation
>coefficient?
[diet] :)
>True. I have quite a few stuff that I can tolerate in SS, while you
>seem to have none. As for Afternoon, only 30% of the stuff in there
>interests me, although that's still admirable, compared to most other
>manga magzines.
Wow, you read 300 pages of Afternoon? That's more than an entire volume of
most monthlies. For some reasons there's no more suspense for me when I open
a new issue of Afternoon. Blame it on Manga-Dundee.
>Well, SJ is always an exception. :-)
SJ is just a SS with testosterone problem. Otherwise, they're equally
trashable.
>I guess you haven't read enough Otoko Juku yet. I'll wait until you
>finish all 34 volumes of it. :-)
After I translate the entire run of Garasu no Kamen.
>Tofu-sensei? Who is he?
Donno. I heard so much about that character, but never had the chance to see
one. I thought you could enlighten me. Must be something very obscure then.
>Well, all classical shojo mangas have more airheads than you can
>possiblt handle.
So if I write about airhead girls who gets chased around by studly boys, it
becomes an instant classic? WHY THAT SOUNDS ..... reasonable.
>True. But short stories don't make much money for either Jump nor
>the man himself.
Jump is still putting those award winning (Shueisha's no doubt) amateur short
pieces into compilation volumes. Most of them Jump Special recycles, but you
never know which one will turn out to be the next Kurumada. SJ is always
looking for the next Kurumada.
>Care to explain how did you derive this equation?
[diet] ^_^;;
>Well, Studio TRON is capable of turing gold into lead. :-) I don't
>think there are any talented people in ST.
Which indicates how talented their group leader must be. :-p
If you were reading the last volumes of KOR when they just came out, would
you have thought there'd be Bastard or Elementalor type material coming out
from the same people?! You have (or maybe HAD) KOR #18, so you know the
staff list as well. Let's play "Where are they now?", and since you're
better in this game than I am, you can fill me in. :)
KOR #18 (pg. 168)
Full Time Stuff (must be Matsumoto's spelling)
Izumi Matsumoto vol.1-18 (listed only for completeness)
Mitsuru Hirono 1-18 (?)
Kazushi Hagiwara 11-18 (Bastard!)
Kazuya Hatta 1-12 (went to Bastard!)
Yusuke Kozima 5-18 (?)
Tetsuyasu Usui 17-18 (went to Saseme Street)
Takeshi Okazaki 14-18 (the next Kikuchi)
Mamoru Matsushita 17-18 (went to Saseme Street)
I thought Hirohisa Tsuruta worked on KOR. He's listed in Bastard! thou.
Shun Kitagawa was listed in Bastard! as a Sensei
With a staff like that, I can do manga too. (umpteenth time)
>Maybe, but not always. CLAMP can still come up with good original
>stories, although they do lots of full page panels.
All signs are good for CLAMP to go the Kikuchi way.....
>>Had it all and squandered it - Kitagawa Shun
>
>Maybe Hagiwara infected him. :-)
It's the kiss of death. Nineteen was animated.
>I'm not so sure about this guy - Hoshisato Mochiru
He quit while he was still ahead, I think.
>Really? I know lots of manga-nime freaks with the first name Dave,
>though.
Kill file, see above.
>Well, I got my Tokyo Babylon Vol.5. So I'm happy. :)
This is embarrassing, an Irvinite being rubbed in by San Diegan. That's it,
I'm showing up at Dennies this Wednesday night.
>BTW, did you know that a branch of Yaohan will open in San Diego?
Good, so I get to plunder your neighborhood for a change.
>I think we should discuss about this over e-mail. :)
With proper assistants, Heisei AMP can put CLAMP and Asamiya out of business.
(You have my Metallic Rain. There are Dragonball ones that looks even better
than that - ie. surpassing the Toriyama's original.)
>Well, VIz isn't doing color anymore. So it's about time for you to
>start another "translation war". :-)
I didn't know they cared.... snif.... I was hoping Viz to colorize AMG (by
our favorite colorist, no less. :). We could have so much fun here.
>Check out "Desert Roses", too.
Sorry, but babes w/ brains and guns are passe. The Nineties demands neither.
>So did you take a look at them?
With a new 14.4k modem, I was looking for an excuse to leech. They look
great. $7 well spent. :-)
>They're more talented than we are. :-)
In time, my friend. We can start a descent cross-group flame war with AMG
though. (Yet to see it myself, and I'm already hearing conflict reports
about it. Could start a Siskel vs. Ebert debate.)
>Nah, it'll never work. We just don't have enough people on this
>newsgroup to generate a flame war.
Hey, with recent attentions, I think a.m. is doing much better now. We're at
about the Dirty Dozen mark.
>Let's start that right now. My march frenzy left such a big hole in
>my economy that I'm still suffering from it.
AMEN!
>Not really. Gundam pilots maybe stupid but not all Gundam fans are
>stupid. That's why bad stuff like F-91 and ZZ failed. I think even
>worse fate awaits Victory Gundamn.
I was refering to the Gundam pilots (being stupid). I think those kids in V-
G will live for a very, very long time.
>1 Hardy Gun for those who haven't seen the manga.
>
>4 Hardy Guns for fans of manga.
Bring da thing over. (While you're at it, bring some Sailor Moon, Capt.
Tailor and Tenchi Muyu over as well. I feel like I'm relearning how to walk
again.)
>Frederico, pleeeeeeease don't do it. Besides, it's not clear whether
>Yuuki will come to AX 93 or not.
Who said anything about a real sig.......
>Same here. Kadokawa widebans are especially worthless.
And our job is to keep ourselves up to date with worthless mangas so the rest
of mankind won't have to. AMEN to that too.
>Dunno. But I'll never sell them anyway.
Just wondering if... suppose somebody steals the lot, how much should he or
she ask for. I guess it's a seller's market then. btw, are the freebies
still inside? ^^
>>What happened to Anime-V and Animedia?
>
>Plain noise.
woow. another quality cross-group flame candidate.
>Possible but not neccesarily. There are quite a few Kadokawa anime
>that never really became popular over here, such as Luna Varuga, Ys,
>Madara, etc. Besides, I'm pretty sure that Elementaler anime will
>suck, because Okazaki's characters are hard to animate.
Because, IMHO, Kadokawa went RPG nuts. For an anime to sell here, it needs
babes. Lodoss had some, and Elementalor will have plenty.... :-)
And it will suck.
>BTW, Exploer Wopman Ray OAV really sucked.
Well, animated mangas need their own standards. EWR was okay. I give it 2
Hardies. Then again, my airhead tolerance is greater.
>I can let you browse my Asukas. :)
You're missing the point. I'm stalling because I'm lazy. Ideas are coming
but my fingers are tired (and you wonder why).
>Same here, although I already lost interest in it. It's another
>thing that I just buy for the heck of it.
Anime kiss of death, example #3.
>Only if Alan Takahashi is willing to share the burden with me. :)
He's not reading this... If he doesn't say no in 3 days I guess he's hired
with you then. :-p
>Well, I always have been an extreme night person. So M&N has
>not disrupted my physiology yet. At lease not YET.
Want to see this thread grow like Afternoon?
d.n.a.b.