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bassos

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Dec 22, 2009, 6:22:30 AM12/22/09
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ls,

What is magick is a fools question.

Magick does not exist.

It is viewpoints that can see magick.

Perhaps that is why there are stern warnings against siddhis.

it is good that alternative to magick is here.

To me that seems like judgement on creating change.

Then again, who creates what anyway.

Who knows, alt.magick.

pretense and reality walk hand in hand.

5 and 5 = 10 ?

one is enough.

seems so boring.

tada.

ah.

a word mispelled.

bassos

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Dec 22, 2009, 9:48:02 AM12/22/09
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"bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote in message
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_kuHF7dBZA

it's hard to be tender
it's hard to stay open
when you're dizzy with anger
and your dreams have been broken

lying with you 'neath the sky
the country is so green in the light
loving you's the key to my survival

now,
you have gone away
the skies turned grey
the rivers froze
I remember how you held me close
and I shiver

it's hard to be tender
it's hard to stay open
when the woods are on fire
and the river is frozen

<intermezzo>

swore on my knees as a child
never to forsake God above
never to betray the ones who love me

now,
years have come and gone
I find the strength to carry on
but the blood that ran so fast and warm
has grown colder

now,
my heart has turned to ice
is it just the price of growing older?

it's hard to be tender
but I'm tired of defending
I know that I love you
so I'll write my own ending

...

Evergreen

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Dec 22, 2009, 10:30:25 AM12/22/09
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On alt.magick, bassos <zebazz_nope> wrote:

> ls,
>
> What is magick is a fools question.
>
> Magick does not exist.

Magick is the _only_ thing that exists. It
is the true science.


[delete]


Sid

--
Sidney Lambe
Wiccan Priest and Apprentice Magician
http://tinyurl.com/7vs9zb
usenet4444 (at) gmail (dot) com

bassos

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:02:27 PM12/22/09
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"Evergreen" <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> On alt.magick, bassos <zebazz_nope> wrote:
>
>> ls,
>>
>> What is magick is a fools question.
>>
>> Magick does not exist.
>
> Magick is the _only_ thing that exists. It
> is the true science.

You are correct

There actually is no movement.

Evergreen

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:21:25 PM12/22/09
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On alt.magick, bassos <zebazz_nope> wrote:
>
> "Evergreen" <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:slrnhj1on2.4p...@evergreen.net...
>> On alt.magick, bassos <zebazz_nope> wrote:
>>
>>> ls,
>>>
>>> What is magick is a fools question.
>>>
>>> Magick does not exist.
>>
>> Magick is the _only_ thing that exists. It
>> is the true science.
>
> You are correct
>
> There actually is no movement.
>

????

Everything is constantly changing. Forever.
What's going on has been called The
Great Expansion of Consciousness.

This intuited fact is responsible for the
physical scientist's idea of a constantly
expanding physical universe.

Alrah

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Dec 22, 2009, 12:42:59 PM12/22/09
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On 22 Dec, 14:48, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote in messagenews:4b30ac0c$0$6292$e4fe...@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl...

> it's hard to be tender


> it's hard to stay open
> when you're dizzy with anger
> and your dreams have been broken

Broken dreams...

There are people that are compulsive hoarders that keep all sorts of
broken junk around the house until the rooms and furniture cannot be
used for thier original functional purpose. They just won't let the
junk go.

A lot of people's heads are like that - stuffed with broken dreams
that they just won't let go of, until they no longer recognise the
purpose they are fit for because it is obscured by junk. Sometimes
the environment reflects the internal chaos. And it's not as if they
go through the entire messy tangle and sort out what to keep and what
should go, externally or internally - there's just too 'much stuff' -
until eventually - a complete magickal clear out is necessary.
Everything must go! To make room for real love, and not the broken
pieces lying in the shadowy quarters of the room. And a good window
cleaning let's the light in too.

bassos

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:05:15 PM12/22/09
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"Evergreen" <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> On alt.magick, bassos <zebazz_nope> wrote:
>>
>> "Evergreen" <sidne...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:slrnhj1on2.4p...@evergreen.net...
>>> On alt.magick, bassos <zebazz_nope> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ls,
>>>>
>>>> What is magick is a fools question.
>>>>
>>>> Magick does not exist.
>>>
>>> Magick is the _only_ thing that exists. It
>>> is the true science.
>>
>> You are correct
>>
>> There actually is no movement.
>>
>
> ????

I already knew you would not comprehend before posting my comment.

You have already foregone your normal rights.

Now suck on it.

Fucktard.

bassos

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:06:24 PM12/22/09
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"Alrah" <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 22 Dec, 14:48, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
>> "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote in
>> messagenews:4b30ac0c$0$6292$e4fe...@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl...
>
>> it's hard to be tender
>> it's hard to stay open
>> when you're dizzy with anger
>> and your dreams have been broken
>
> Broken dreams...

Not having anything to do with gatherers.

It is about expectations.

Alrah

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:29:55 PM12/22/09
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On 22 Dec, 18:06, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "Alrah" <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

They are gathered too.

bassos

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:39:43 PM12/22/09
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"Alrah" <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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When you're down and out....
(there is a choice we're making)

Oh wait; we are the world.

Wait once more;

MJ was a saint.

Who will oppose it now ?

It is true we make a better day, just you and me.

Robert Scott Martin

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:56:04 PM12/22/09
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In article <4b311287$0$8852$e4fe...@dreader27.news.xs4all.nl>,

bassos <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:

>MJ was a saint.

To the extent to which we remember them they all are. His one-time
publicist -- and undoubtedly plenty of less famous people -- still
considers him a type of martyr.

Controversy over the roll of "gnostic saints" is interesting.

bassos

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:08:29 PM12/22/09
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"Robert Scott Martin" <gl...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4b311287$0$8852$e4fe...@dreader27.news.xs4all.nl>,
> bassos <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
>
>>MJ was a saint.
>
> To the extent to which we remember them they all are.

To me he was special.

> His one-time
> publicist -- and undoubtedly plenty of less famous people -- still
> considers him a type of martyr.
>
> Controversy over the roll of "gnostic saints" is interesting.

It's close to midnight.

...

This is thriller night.

You hear the door slam.

You close your eyes, and hope this is just imagination.

You're fighting for your life inside a killer.

Thriller night.

how would that be different from the foulest stench that's in the air, the
funk of 40.000 years,

oh wait.


Alrah

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:32:03 PM12/22/09
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On 22 Dec, 18:39, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "Alrah" <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f018a5f6-84f3-4101...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 22 Dec, 18:06, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> >> "Alrah" <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:a2da9b01-1995-4f59...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On 22 Dec, 14:48, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> >> >> "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote in
> >> >> messagenews:4b30ac0c$0$6292$e4fe...@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl...
>
> >> >> it's hard to be tender
> >> >> it's hard to stay open
> >> >> when you're dizzy with anger
> >> >> and your dreams have been broken
>
> >> > Broken dreams...
>
> >> Not having anything to do with gatherers.
>
> >> It is about expectations.
>
> > They are gathered too.
>
> When you're down and out....
> (there is a choice we're making)

If you think you're down and out, then you've already gathered a
choice.

> Oh wait; we are the world.

It's amazing the things we gather isn't it?

> Wait once more;
>
> MJ was a saint.

Stick him in the basket and we'll paint him up and eat him at easter.

> Who will oppose it now ?

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall,
all the kings children and all the kings men,
couldn't put Humpty together again.

A very good thing to! I see it as a very good sign, even if Humpty
couldn't see it himself.

> It is true we make a better day, just you and me.

That how Humpty slipped on the wall - and on someone elses carelessly
discarded eggshell no less!

bassos

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:37:20 PM12/22/09
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"Alrah" <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> It is true we make a better day, just you and me.
>
> That how Humpty slipped on the wall - and on someone elses carelessly
> discarded eggshell no less!

You do not understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=effZOf10Iwk&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_rn-1r-1-HM

Alrah

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:18:35 PM12/22/09
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On 22 Dec, 19:37, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "Alrah" <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:9f27b595-3b16-4c46...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> It is true we make a better day, just you and me.
>
> > That how Humpty slipped on the wall - and on someone elses carelessly
> > discarded eggshell no less!
>
> You do not understand.

I've been watching Fifth Element again tonight. In the story, Leylu
needs Corbins love in order to save the world and bring another better
day. It's a mistake to assign such a need to a 'supreme being' I
feel. We all start off by needing the love of other people - to make a
better day... But at the end of the day we do not need to seek love in
anyone else in order to find it in ourselves and be content in our
hearts, and therefore able to give it without restriction to others.
Learning that is a process, and something that cannot be taught.

MJ never learned it. I have rather more faith in you however. :-)

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=effZOf10Iwk&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_rn-1...

I'm on pay as you go Bassos, so I don't watch youtube anymore.

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

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Dec 22, 2009, 5:15:03 PM12/22/09
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Alrah wrote:
> On 22 Dec, 19:37, "bassos" wrote:


>
>>"Alrah" wrote:
>>
>>>>It is true we make a better day, just you and me.
>>>
>>>That how Humpty slipped on the wall - and on someone elses carelessly
>>>discarded eggshell no less!
>>
>>You do not understand.
>
>
> I've been watching Fifth Element again tonight. In the story, Leylu
> needs Corbins love in order to save the world and bring another better
> day.

I have a slightly different take on that.

I think "Leylu" needs to experience "love" as a reason for following her
orders or 'doing her job' as she was sent to do, and that, only more
willingly than she originaly thought possible.

But more as a rationalization for saving the vicious, brutal, self
destructive animal that is mankind & its world rather than as some
'need' on her part to find fulfillment of human love.

I did not think Leylu is a romantic, Corbin on the other hand ......:)

> t's a mistake to assign such a need to a 'supreme being'

Leylu was a soldier, a member of an alien race that possessed a weapon
(which paradoxically she is) and of herself was not a 'supreme being'
merely a more technologically advanced one:)

> I
> feel. We all start off by needing the love of other people - to make a
> better day... But at the end of the day we do not need to seek love in
> anyone else in order to find it in ourselves and be content in our
> hearts, and therefore able to give it without restriction to others.
> Learning that is a process, and something that cannot be taught.

? learning is a process that cannot be taught? how is learning possible
if there is no teaching? what is the Trump V of the Tarot? "The Teacher"?

Brother, sister, mother, father, teacher, lovers, warrior, seeker?

Ultimately life is The Great Teacher.

--

Mr. Joseph Littleshoes Esq.

Domine, dirige nos.
Let the games begin!
http://fredeeky.typepad.com/fredeeky/files/sf_anthem.mp3

bassos

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:52:51 PM12/23/09
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"bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote in message
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Nobody called me on the easy key to this post.

1 + 123.
(ls is 1, the rest is 1 with 1, 2 with 2, 3 with 3)

Also nobody called me on using my longrunning joke.
How i called americains to be far more enlightened than americans.

So, self-importance demands that i gloat about that.

This is me; gloating.


Alrah

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:36:36 PM12/23/09
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On 23 Dec, 18:52, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote in messagenews:4b30ac0c$0$6292$e4fe...@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl...
> This is me; gloating.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

This is me; scratching my head again.

Mr Hollander - I am blonde. I smoke cannabis. I am fairly weird, but
you... Mr Hollander, I do not understand.

But Mr Hollander? Why make it so difficult, eh? *adopts southern
european questioning shrug behaviour I don't have a name for*

bassos

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Dec 23, 2009, 2:45:40 PM12/23/09
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"Alrah" <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 23 Dec, 18:52, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
>> "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote in
>> messagenews:4b30ac0c$0$6292$e4fe...@dreader17.news.xs4all.nl...
>
> This is me; scratching my head again.
>
> Mr Hollander - I am blonde. I smoke cannabis. I am fairly weird, but
> you... Mr Hollander, I do not understand.

That is ok, i am versatile, so some parts may be more familiar.

> But Mr Hollander? Why make it so difficult, eh? *adopts southern
> european questioning shrug behaviour I don't have a name for*

Well, before you learn easy;
wait, i wrote that before.

What is magick is a fools question.

Perhaps that is why there are stern warnings against siddhis

Then again, who creates what anyway.

5 and 5 = 10 ?

tada.

Magick does not exist.


it is good that alternative to magick is here.

Who knows, alt.magick.
one is enough.
ah.

It is viewpoints that can see magick.

To me that seems like judgement on creating change.

pretense and reality walk hand in hand.

seems so boring.
a word mispelled.

The fun is in the discovery.


Alrah

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Dec 23, 2009, 3:57:33 PM12/23/09
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On 23 Dec, 19:45, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "Alrah" <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Ah well - observation is half the battle to those that still have an
opponent.

The birds fly, the fish swim, and the humans... oh the humans make
love again and again. :-)

Alrah

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:05:03 PM12/23/09
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On 23 Dec, 19:45, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "Alrah" <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> The fun is in the discovery.

I've just discovered that my house is built at the east of an old
roman fort, only partially excavated at it's centre.

The boat's are cheap. Come and visit if you will Mr Hollander. I've
been to your country many a time and enjoyed good wecome, and you'll
discover what your ancestors got up to. ;-)

bassos

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:05:38 PM12/23/09
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"Alrah" <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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On 23 Dec, 19:45, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:

> The fun is in the discovery.

----------


The birds fly, the fish swim, and the humans... oh the humans make
love again and again. :-)

-----------

I am considering making the next year about feel good talks.

Problem is mostly that people shut up whenever i start talking.

bassos

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:10:50 PM12/23/09
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"Alrah" <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I went abroad to e-pee-rience what it is like.

I am me wherever i go.

btw, you went to amsterdam and did not send me flowers ?

All your fault then,

Alrah

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:12:09 PM12/23/09
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On 23 Dec, 21:05, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "Alrah" <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

People shut up when truth rides in, amongst other reasons... Thats the
only difference between a magickal madman and a saint. The saint can
explain... lol

Part of the path is work on that you know;-)

Alrah

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:13:58 PM12/23/09
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On 23 Dec, 21:10, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:

> btw, you went to amsterdam and did not send me flowers ?
>
> All your fault then,

It was before I knew you! :-)

I was 'English Queen of Cannabis' back then! lol.

bassos

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:17:21 PM12/23/09
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"Alrah" <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What time is it ?

It is now, it's always now

You're my last breath, you're a breath of fresh air to me.
<no more youtube links as requested>

Alrah

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:19:02 PM12/23/09
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On 23 Dec, 21:17, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> "Alrah" <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:e86a56fb-1982-4c20...@h9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 23 Dec, 21:10, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
>
> >> btw, you went to amsterdam and did not send me flowers ?
>
> >> All your fault then,
>
> > It was before I knew you!  :-)
>
> > I was 'English Queen of Cannabis' back then! lol.
>
> What time is it ?

22:06

> It is now, it's always now

*put's interlocking green crown back on then* :-)

Times move on though, as fast as they breed a new strain.

It's funny when they talk about stronger cannabis... but they haven't
topped silver haze in 20 years.

Pure is pure.

> You're my last breath, you're a breath of fresh air to me.
> <no more youtube links as requested>

Now... can we agree that the best weed as agreed by all the best
yogi's is silver haze for kundalini and highest dhyana ? A little bit
of training needed first but then... :-)

*gives bassos a blowback* ;-)

Let's have some fun. :-)

Tehiru

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Dec 23, 2009, 10:51:59 PM12/23/09
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On Dec 22, 7:30 am, Evergreen <sidneyla...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Magick is the _only_ thing that exists. It
> is the true science.

OK Evergreen. I happen to disagree with that statement. However, I
would invite you to elaborate a bit before I reply further.

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