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Aleister Crowley's views on Arthur Machen and his Fiction

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Evans

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Jul 16, 2009, 8:17:00 PM7/16/09
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First of all I apologise for barging in here and asking such an
impromptu question.

Could anyone shed any light on the Wikipedia statement about Aleister
Crowley having allegedly made some comment about Arthur Machen's
fiction containing elements of magical truth? I was planning to
mention it in a review but I thought it best to check first since Wiki
isn't a source I'm inclined to trust it to any great length.

(The only volume of Crowley's I'm able to lay my hands on at the
moment is Confessions and I know its not in that)

Thanks for your time.

Tom

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Jul 17, 2009, 12:46:38 AM7/17/09
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Off hand I couldn't tell you exactly what and where Crowley commented
on Machen, but, since both were members of the Golden Dawn and
Machen's "The Great God Pan" was a vision along the same lines as
Crowley's, it would not be at all surprising to hear Crowley say that
Machen's work contained "elements of magical truth".

Erwin Hessle

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Jul 17, 2009, 6:26:43 AM7/17/09
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The article you reference says itself that Crowley "put [Machen's
works] on the reading list for his students", so that would be the
logical place to start. You can find this list in the Equinox and in
the back of Magick in Theory and Practice. Section 2 of "Curriculum of
A.A." - headed "Other books, principally fiction, of a generally
suggestive and helpful kind" - lists most of "The Works of Arthur
Machen" as being "of great magical interest", along with Dracula,
Alice in Wonderland, The Arabian Nights, various plays by Shakespeare
and "Books of Fairy Tales generally", amongst others, so you can
decide for yourself how much weight to put on such a statement. Note
that, unlike the article states in its only direct quotation on the
matter, Crowley would not have specified these or any other works as
containing "Magickal" truths, on account of "Magickal" not being a
real word; Crowley uniformly used the correct adjective, "magical".

Erwin Hessle, 8=3

dem...@gmail.com

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May 2, 2013, 2:36:10 PM5/2/13
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Hey. Check "Liber Aleph. The Book of Wisdom or Folly" - There's a chapter called "De Cantu" - Machen is mentioned. Machen is called a "cousin" by Crowley - due to the fact that they were both once members of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. Nothing on "magical truths" - yet insight on Crowley's own perception of poetry, language, etc.

Robert Scott Martin

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May 6, 2013, 12:31:08 PM5/6/13
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In article <f6986fcb-6b4a-4c58...@googlegroups.com>,
<dem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>El jueves, 16 de julio de 2009 19:17:00 UTC-5, Evans escribi?:

>> Could anyone shed any light on the Wikipedia statement about Aleister
>> Crowley having allegedly made some comment about Arthur Machen's
>> fiction containing elements of magical truth? I was planning to
>> mention it in a review but I thought it best to check first since Wiki
>> isn't a source I'm inclined to trust it to any great length.

Hola! Check the Curriculum:

"The Works of Arthur Machen. Most of these stories are of great magical
interest."

http://hermetic.com/crowley/book-4/app1.html

Not much more in the published works beyond what the talented necromancer
DEMB444 has delivered below. Good field for further investigation.

Bassos

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May 6, 2013, 1:20:28 PM5/6/13
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On 6-5-2013 18:31, Robert Scott Martin wrote:

> Hola! Check the Curriculum:
>
> "The Works of Arthur Machen. Most of these stories are of great magical
> interest."
>
> http://hermetic.com/crowley/book-4/app1.html

Meh.

Read mitap, mwt and all of achad's work.

One should already have read some pre-eminent stuff.

I like hinduism for readin.

Any suggestion you do ?


Robert Scott Martin

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May 6, 2013, 2:01:26 PM5/6/13
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In article <5187e65b$0$26874$e4fe...@dreader37.news.xs4all.nl>,
Bassos <Root@Wan> wrote:

>Read mitap, mwt and all of achad's work.

You really have lost it.

Anyway, just dropping in for a point of information. Keep having fun!

Bassos

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May 6, 2013, 2:34:06 PM5/6/13
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On 6-5-2013 20:01, Robert Scott Martin wrote:
> In article <5187e65b$0$26874$e4fe...@dreader37.news.xs4all.nl>,
> Bassos <Root@Wan> wrote:
>
>> Read mitap, mwt and all of achad's work.
>
> You really have lost it.

Really ?

I ask, because you should know better than annoy me.

And somehow i do not accept you acting like a pansie..

Ohr are you ?

Hint(don't fuck with the roughneck (!!))

Need the youtube part ?

You maybe king, ignoring me get's you whatever i choose.

Bassos; King of Alt.magick
(i know you feel that as safe. Stupid fuck)

> Anyway, just dropping in for a point of information. Keep having fun!

So you are scared.

While being King.

That will not do.

Learn to act.



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