Help serious -Black magic victim
Adeoluwa Odein
For the past four years, I have been under severe attack by invisible
entities every minute of the day. The attacks are very uncomfortable
and includes:
1. a Serpent-like entitle lodged in my rectum -it was inserted by a
clawed-entity while I was asleep.
2. a worm-like entity that moves in my left stomach, it disperses
toxic energy within me.
3. It seems I have a spirit lodged in my left brain, it create pain
and headache over there -I feel movements in that part of the head,
and in my entire face, to the extent that I have to use only the right
eye at times to perform any activities.
4. There are toxic like energies moving within my chest -the
translation of this is a "suicide-attack"; one meant for you to either
commit suicide by using any sharp object to tear your cheat/stomach
open.
5. I see terrible and horrendous beings why asleep; there are stupid
voice murmurings within my throat, and chest.
6. I receive nail or pinching attacks everywhere on my body almost
every minute.
My entire impressions and imaginations are so dark, I can not even
imagine any colored object. They are so many irritating and dirty
movements within me -they are extremely dirty, and they emit dirty
feelings. These started immediately after I finished my masters
degree, and after moving out of my host's house. The results have
been devastating; I haven't been able to look for any employment for 2-
years solely because of these unusual activities.
Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
spiritualists) to no avail. My researches lead me to "Black Magic" or
"Psychic Attack"; what objects could have been used to initiate the
attacks, I still don't know.
Thanks in advance.
--
Ato_Zee
On 8-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> spiritualists) to no avail.
Wrong people, try a psychotherapist, one recommened
by your physician or local hospital.
Adeoluwa Odein
> On 8-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> > have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> > spiritualists) to no avail.
>
> Wrong people, try a psychotherapist, one recommened
> by your physician or local hospital.
Are you sure? These seem like demons! Two of them, very large I
believe, inserted objects into me while asleep, in the mouth (worm-
like) and the back (serpent-like). The entities or individuals that
were attacking me on the bed seem to have masculine features and
female private-parts.
But what can the psychotherapist do? Can he or she remove the object
that are causing so much pain for me, and block the terrible images of
insane people I am seeing?
Thanks in advance.
--
Miguel Alberto
You will have to give your life to Christ. The elders of your new church
family will give you a deliverance session, and you will be freed from
all those evil spirits. It worked for me.
Alrah
If you are feeling physical pain then you should immediately consult
your doctor about it!
As for the rest, what I think is happening here is that you overworked
and precipitated a change in your brain chemistry and therefore your
perceptions that you need some help to recover from. It's nothing to
be ashamed or frightened of, and your doctor will think you are very
sensible for consulting him. It can be very scary when stress and
overwork precipitate a breakdown like this, but it's neither unusual
or uncommon and you need to be brave and take the necessary steps in
order to get better now. You need to accept that you cannot trust
your own perceptions about what is causing your problems until your
brain chemistry has returned to normal. Until then your judgement is
going to be impaired, and you need some profession help and advice.
So go and make an appointment with your doctor and tell him about the
physical pain you are suffering from and also about these delusions.
It's honestly the most sensible course or action you can take.
All the best, and I hope you feel better soon. :-)
Adeoluwa Odein
Miguel,
What precipitated the evil spirits, in your case, to begin with? The
entire events have changed my notion of God; I prefer not to be a
believer.
--
Adeoluwa Odein
The physical pain are being injected using what appears to be "toxic
or pain vapours"; so you feel the pain. I never overworked. There
was a mark on my left hand when it started initially. A mark of a
"black bird", that disappeared the next day.
I was told, someone marked me for evil attacks or torture.
Alrah
Or it could be that the pain is being caused by one of your internal
organs malfunctioning in some way due to entirely natural causes, but
that is not for you to determine or decide upon at the moment. It is
a possibility though, and determining what is the cause of your pain
is the job of a doctor.
> I never overworked. There
> was a mark on my left hand when it started initially. A mark of a
> "black bird", that disappeared the next day.
>
> I was told, someone marked me for evil attacks or torture.
Then the person who told you this was being highly irresponsible and
is not someone you should be listening to. Your doctor is though.
Your doctor has a duty to treat you and help you get better, and he/
she has your best interests at heart.
Adeoluwa Odein
But I have being told, and from my researches, that one needs the
following to initiate black magic attack:
1. the victim's nails or blood or clothes.
Is this accurate, or are they more items needed? I only ask, so to
understand how such a venominous and abnormal attack could have been
initiated by any normal human being. I have my suspects.
Ato_Zee
On 8-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But what can the psychotherapist do? Can he or she remove the object
> that are causing so much pain for me, and block the terrible images of
> insane people I am seeing?
Scientology auditors would love this one, think of all the engrams they
could find, the e-meter needles that it would bend, the hours of
auditor training they could get out of this one.
So all is not lost.
Adeoluwa Odein
The attacks were very sudden... I went to the hospital once when I
felt movements like internal bleeding; but the hospital said if that
were the case, I would not have been alived at that moment.
Correct me, if I am wrong, any sudden change in life patterns or
styles, resulting in circumstances that may seem beyond your control,
can only be magical. It is fast, and results-oriented. I have
assessed the entire events so far, and it can only be magical. One
can not be doing so well today, and in the next few minutes, you are
under severe assault every minute, in an intelligent and inconsistent
manner.
Some of the images I have see when asleep can depress the mind to a
languid and "vegetation" state, and cause diseases immediately -I am
dealing with mad demons here. These sounds like premeditated attack
by someone that needs something from me.
Alrah
>
> - Show quoted text -
Every year, there are one or two so called black magickians that try
to magickally attack Tom. He's sent them photo's and that should be
enough of a link. However - not one attack in the last 10 years has
worked. He does not believe black magick attacks are possible. I
suggest that you follow his example and stop believing that you have
been or are being magickally attacked. If you believe such nonesense
then obviously by holding onto your belief then this will trouble your
mind, affect your sleep and affect your general health. About the
latter - go and see your doctor.
Adeoluwa Odein
I understand you. But that's like saying "that finger is bad", but I
will use the other "nine fingers". Isn't it? The moment I feel
abnormal effects on my body, that's a different prospect, especially
when it was never apparent before.
Are you also saying just a picture was enough to effect such an
attack, even though none ever worked?
Alrah
And did they find anything wrong with you?
> Correct me, if I am wrong, any sudden change in life patterns or
> styles, resulting in circumstances that may seem beyond your control,
> can only be magical.
Ok - you're wrong. When sudden changes happen in your life it is not
sensible to leap into the arena of extreme possibility first and
immediately assume there is a magickal or occult reason for it. What
you do if you are sensible is assume that there is a reasonable
ordinary and natural explanation for it even if you don't know what it
is.
> It is fast, and results-oriented. I have
> assessed the entire events so far, and it can only be magical. One
> can not be doing so well today, and in the next few minutes, you are
> under severe assault every minute, in an intelligent and inconsistent
> manner.
What you've described so far are frightening images you've seen in
your dreams. The most reasonable explanation is that your mind is
generating images because you are frightened of the unknown, and
someone has threatened you with the unknown. Therefore the mind
creates 'something' instead of 'nothing'.
You've also described feeling physical pain which could be related to
an actual physical condition or it could be psychosomatic.
Nothing you've said so far suggest to me an 'attack'.
> Some of the images I have see when asleep can depress the mind to a
> languid and "vegetation" state, and cause diseases immediately -I am
> dealing with mad demons here. These sounds like premeditated attack
> by someone that needs something from me.
You are not dealing with mad demons. You are dealing with delusions.
Nothing is throwing your furniture about. As long as nothing is
rearranging the living room infront of your eyes then you can safely
assume that you are not dealing with mad demons! :-)))
Alrah
Sometimes changes in brain chemistry caused by stress can cause people
to become more sensitive and aware of thier body. Now you must admit
- this is a far more likely explanation than demons, isn't it? :-)
> Are you also saying just a picture was enough to effect such an
> attack, even though none ever worked?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yes. But you would think that one of these attacks would have worked
by now if magickal attacks were possible, wouldn't you? And there's
something you aren't considering... if you think someone else is
attacking you - where are they getting the energy from? Do you really
think someone is wasting all of thier time focusing on you with a
little Hoodoo doll and a pin? I mean... come on! Even if someone
didn't like you and thought the odd mean thing about you, they aren't
going to spend all thier time and use up all thier energy on a
sustained attack on you lasting years! Are they? It's just not
sensible to think like that. So put your mind at ease about this
petal.
Adeoluwa Odein
In a general sense, you are right, but in my case, I initially saw a
white flash of someone's head/shoulder on my wall, while I was
relaxing and reflecting, in the dark, on my couch; it is almost like a
sentient being, but people say it is an "angel of light" in an evil
sense.
>
> > It is fast, and results-oriented. I have
> > assessed the entire events so far, and it can only be magical. One
> > can not be doing so well today, and in the next few minutes, you are
> > under severe assault every minute, in an intelligent and inconsistent
> > manner.
>
> What you've described so far are frightening images you've seen in
> your dreams. The most reasonable explanation is that your mind is
> generating images because you are frightened of the unknown, and
> someone has threatened you with the unknown. Therefore the mind
> creates 'something' instead of 'nothing'.
I was never frightened of the unknown, however with the oncoming
"attacks", you wonder what you may have done to others, and what
tomorrow holds. Remember, the white image was seen about two weeks
after I graduated from my Masters degree; I clearly know what such
Masters program was meant for, and its limitations. So I was never
frightened.
>
> You've also described feeling physical pain which could be related to
> an actual physical condition or it could be psychosomatic.
>
A friend said, it could be psychosomatic, and he suggest jotting down
all events. There were a lot of homosexual-like attack by beings that
were simulating penis penetration on my anus --I think that was in the
mind, since my physical position on the bed was different from what it
was why the attacks took place. Another trigger for the attacks were
when I view horror scenes from a flick, or when this same friend
mention a new managerial position opening at a firm.
What comes out was a toxic vapor-like substance from the object
inserted in my left stomach .. I feel it on my throat, sort of like a
balm. The voices I also hear, emanated from the throat, or the chest
(I feel substances at those locations of my body); and what those
voices allude to are mostly senseless slangs, or "sex"
> Nothing you've said so far suggest to me an 'attack'.
>
> > Some of the images I have see when asleep can depress the mind to a
> > languid and "vegetation" state, and cause diseases immediately -I am
> > dealing with mad demons here. These sounds like premeditated attack
> > by someone that needs something from me.
>
> You are not dealing with mad demons. You are dealing with delusions.
> Nothing is throwing your furniture about. As long as nothing is
> rearranging the living room infront of your eyes then you can safely
> assume that you are not dealing with mad demons! :-)))
I think the delusional aspects appear to be illusions to me. What I
mean is, at times when attacked at sleep, in the image, my bed
position is quite different, the moment I wake up. For example, I
felt pain when attacked with different images of me rolling of, the
bed -about 6 images. But the moment the attacks stopped, I was still
on the same bed, in the same position.
Here's another one -I was magnetized to my bed for about 5-seconds; I
could not move my head, or arms. I seem to be struggling against a
force-field (invisible) that psionically kept them from moving.
And another one, my clothes seem to be attacking me, like razor-
stings... very unusual, since it has never happened before. I tested
it, by moving any drape cloth below my neck, no attack, however, if I
wrap myself on the bed, on the head, or my shirt's collar, slice me
like a razor, but no blood. These seem to be dark sorcery.
Or, the vapor-like energy within, goes to my throat (within and I
believe, by the worm-like substance injected into me during my sleep),
and you feel different tastes -very disgusting, and those that would
make you vomit immediately -I neutralize either by taking salt, or
drinking olive oil.
Does this seem more inordinary to you?
Alrah
attacked, then perform the following banishing ritual:
http://www.kheper.net/topics/Hermeticism/LBR.htm
- and that will take care of the matter.
Tom
> On Dec 8, 5:03 am, "Ato_Zee" <ato_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 8-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> > > have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> > > spiritualists) to no avail.
>
> > Wrong people, try a psychotherapist, one recommened
> > by your physician or local hospital.
>
> Are you sure? These seem like demons!
Of course they do. Parts of your own consciousness that start acting
autonomously and not in the best interests of your ego always seem
demonic.
> But what can the psychotherapist do?
Nothing, really. I don't think Alrah is right about that. You don't
need psychotherapy as much as you need a drug that brings those
naughty autonomous bits of consciousness back into line. A
psychiatrist can help you find the right one.
Psychotherapy may eventually help you learn to deal with the feelings
you have, but that could take years. For more immediate relief from
your physical symptoms you're going to need a psychiatrist.
Adeoluwa Odein
Can you list all possibles ways to effect dark magic, so I know.
The energy seem to be coming from the "worm-like" entity that was
deposited into my stomach through my mouth. From my observation, it
works like a paddle that moves waves; when I tried to imagine a
picture of a goddess, called "Ma'at" (someone advised that I seek
urgent assistance when I couldn't open my eyes for three days -I felt
movements within, and hot energy around it -I thought I was purposely
going blind), that same "worm-like" entity swirled and I felt darkness
covering my imagination, when I saw a little light; it all became
dark, and I couldn't imagine the picture.
What this seems is like someone is deliberately ensuring that I am in
torment, and it appears to be intelligent. So there's an intelligence
at work. One time, a huge being fell on me why I was asleep, and said
"Kill" -for three days, I was drained, and couldn't study any book or
stay upright. Also, I feel the painful attacks when I take any book
seeming advance to study.
bassos
"Adeoluwa Odein" <stratfor...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
Heyas Adeoluwa.
> For the past four years, I have been under severe attack by invisible
> entities every minute of the day.
Perhaps everyone is under the constant interaction with those invisible
forces.
(it becomes an entity when you name it)
> The attacks are very uncomfortable and includes:
>
> 1. a Serpent-like entitle lodged in my rectum -it was inserted by a
> clawed-entity while I was asleep.
So how did that make you feel ?
Seems like some invasive imagery at least.
Did you form any conclusions about it's meaning ?
Serpent in the rectum would 'magickauthistically' mean; awakening of
kundalini.
> 2. a worm-like entity that moves in my left stomach, it disperses
> toxic energy within me.
Further on you write you ingested it through your mouth.
What do you mean with left stomach ?
The left side of your body where you feel your stomach to be, or a second
stomach ?
(hey, in dreams such things are possible)
> 3. It seems I have a spirit lodged in my left brain, it create pain
> and headache over there
Sleep on your right side.
(so gravity may increase bloodflow to your right hemisphere)
> -I feel movements in that part of the head,
> and in my entire face, to the extent that I have to use only the right
> eye at times to perform any activities.
Did you know that the left side of your brain actually controls your right
eye ?
(well, its movement anyway, from both eyes the left side goes into the right
brain-hemisphere, and from both eyes the right side goes into your left
hemisphere.
Feeling pain in the brain is unlikely. (no pain receptors there, just
conclusions about pain from the rest of the body)
You feel the skull. (well, the skin on your skull)
Sound is more interesting in that manner, it reflects inside the skull.
(that is why you think your voice sounds different from when you hear a
recording of it)
> 4. There are toxic like energies moving within my chest -the
> translation of this is a "suicide-attack"; one meant for you to either
> commit suicide by using any sharp object to tear your cheast/stomach
> open.
What self-medication did you try, and which one are you trying at the moment
?
> 5. I see terrible and horrendous beings why asleep; there are stupid
> voice murmurings within my throat, and chest.
Immerse yourself in niceness.
It is a method.
If your entire day was immersed in happy go lucky feel good yummieness, your
dreams are more likely to reflect that.
> 6. I receive nail or pinching attacks everywhere on my body almost
> every minute.
What do you think that means ?
Do they hurt ?
Can you control them ?
Can you induce them ?
Training :
Relax your body untill you get an itch somewhere.
Feel the itch.
Embrace the itch.
Send it happy thoughts, warmth, love.
Feeeeeeeeeelll it.
Keep that up till the itch resolves on its own.
> My entire impressions and imaginations are so dark, I can not even
> imagine any colored object.
Try looking at some.
You can do that online.
Here's some :
(random google search:
http://www.area51newmexico.com/pictures_smile.php)
Get your hands on some birdsong sounds.
Biologically we are comforted by birds singing, cos it is biologically far
more dangerous if the birds are silent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y&feature=fvw
> They are so many irritating and dirty
> movements within me -they are extremely dirty, and they emit dirty
> feelings.
What kinds of feelings ?
(besides being dirty, how do you describe them more elaborately)
> These started immediately after I finished my masters
> degree, and after moving out of my host's house.
That actually would most likely be the reason according to current
psychological thinking.
Out on your own.
Gotta leave the nest sometime mate.
> The results have been devastating; I haven't been able to look for any
> employment for 2-
> years solely because of these unusual activities.
Get a cat.
> Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> spiritualists) to no avail. My researches lead me to "Black Magic" or
> "Psychic Attack"; what objects could have been used to initiate the
> attacks, I still don't know.
To ward of psychic attack :
Feel good about all of who you are.
Every single movement of reality that nudges you to smile.
Then cast a circle, invoke the arch angels, ask them for protection and
guidance.
Cleanse your home with prayer.
(or other songs that purify you)
Repeat this mornings-evenings daily untill cured.
Adeoluwa Odein
> On Dec 8, 5:11 am, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 8, 5:03 am, "Ato_Zee" <ato_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 8-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> > > > have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> > > > spiritualists) to no avail.
>
> > > Wrong people, try a psychotherapist, one recommened
> > > by your physician or local hospital.
>
> > Are you sure? These seem like demons!
>
> Of course they do. Parts of your own consciousness that start acting
> autonomously and not in the best interests of your ego always seem
> demonic.
>
I am from Africa. These entities made references a class exercise I
did for my Masters, and they seem to have speech profiles a West
Indian, or so. How did I know? By what they say; they use
vulgarities that refer to female private parts. Are you sure this is
part of my consciousness? The entities started manifesting after
those objects were deposited with my mouth. The other object moves
like a serpent in my scrotum, and comes out in a very irritating
manner in my rectum, like simulating sex, or so. It's terrible.
> > But what can the psychotherapist do?
>
> Nothing, really. I don't think Alrah is right about that. You don't
> need psychotherapy as much as you need a drug that brings those
> naughty autonomous bits of consciousness back into line. A
> psychiatrist can help you find the right one.
>
> Psychotherapy may eventually help you learn to deal with the feelings
> you have, but that could take years. For more immediate relief from
> your physical symptoms you're going to need a psychiatrist.
I thought much. But why should I take medication because of certain
abnormal people. An ex-priest at my ex-university said this happens
the longer you stay in the US. Honestly, it didn't make any sense,
since other people never complain of such issues. I was a guest with
a couple, while studying for my Masters.
Alrah
> On Dec 8, 10:22 am, Alrah <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Does this seem more inordinary to you?
No. There are perfectly reasonable and rational explantions for all
of these matters.
For instance - being magnetized to the bed and unable to move is
related to the chemical your brain produces during sleep that stops
you from sleep walking. Sometimes people will wake suddenly from deep
sleep and find themselves frozen as the chemical takes a few second to
go away. See? You lept to the conclusion it was demons, but
actually? Brain chemistry. Perfectly normal. No demons needed to
explain that one. :-)
Adeoluwa Odein
> "Adeoluwa Odein" <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b10c2f45-da5f-40a2...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hello,
>
> Heyas Adeoluwa.
>
> > For the past four years, I have been under severe attack by invisible
> > entities every minute of the day.
>
> Perhaps everyone is under the constant interaction with those invisible
> forces.
> (it becomes an entity when you name it)
I have no name for it, or them, nor do I know them or it. The images
of the being projected in my mind are terrible and grim looking.
>
> > The attacks are very uncomfortable and includes:
>
> > 1. a Serpent-like entitle lodged in my rectum -it was inserted by a
> > clawed-entity while I was asleep.
>
> So how did that make you feel ?
> Seems like some invasive imagery at least.
I felt what appeared to be a bird-claw grabbing my back, but almost
like the touch of plastic, yet so powerful I couldn't move it away.
The other entity inserted its mouth into mine, and lodged a "worm-
like" entity within. I punched it, but to know effect. I don't think
I actually effected the punch, it seem like a spirit being, or an
illusion to make it appear I did.
>
> Did you form any conclusions about it's meaning ?
> Serpent in the rectum would 'magickauthistically' mean; awakening of
> kundalini.
>
I didn't know, but it is irritating, disgusting and a terrible
prospect for any normal person to reflect on. Other readings may seem
so, but what would trigger kundalini awakening? Is it not based on my
living style?
> > 2. a worm-like entity that moves in my left stomach, it disperses
> > toxic energy within me.
>
> Further on you write you ingested it through your mouth.
>
> What do you mean with left stomach ?
> The left side of your body where you feel your stomach to be, or a second
> stomach ?
> (hey, in dreams such things are possible)
>
I mean the stomach entirely, but I feel it mostly moving in the left
part of my belly. I don't know its structure within, or in spirit
sense, but I feel roving irritation that's likened to a coiled worm or
serpent.
> > 3. It seems I have a spirit lodged in my left brain, it create pain
> > and headache over there
>
> Sleep on your right side.
> (so gravity may increase bloodflow to your right hemisphere)
Do you understand what's happening here... If I focus, I feel extreme
pressure or vibration on the left side, almost like my left brain or
membranes can explode. I mitigate the pain, by closing my left eye.
>
> > -I feel movements in that part of the head,
> > and in my entire face, to the extent that I have to use only the right
> > eye at times to perform any activities.
>
> Did you know that the left side of your brain actually controls your right
> eye ?
> (well, its movement anyway, from both eyes the left side goes into the right
> brain-hemisphere, and from both eyes the right side goes into your left
> hemisphere.
>
> Feeling pain in the brain is unlikely. (no pain receptors there, just
> conclusions about pain from the rest of the body)
> You feel the skull. (well, the skin on your skull)
> Sound is more interesting in that manner, it reflects inside the skull.
> (that is why you think your voice sounds different from when you hear a
> recording of it)
>
I also feel a ball-like object moving from my nasal cavity to the
forehead, but within... at times, it blocks air movement in the
nostrils. It's like heat movements within that area, it's being used
to simulate heat-pain in below the eyes, which is meant to make it
feel drowsy, tired, and then to sleep.
> > 4. There are toxic like energies moving within my chest -the
> > translation of this is a "suicide-attack"; one meant for you to either
> > commit suicide by using any sharp object to tear your cheast/stomach
> > open.
>
> What self-medication did you try, and which one are you trying at the moment
> ?
>
None... I abore all forms of medication unless those prescribed for
physical ailments, but these do not seem physical.
> > 5. I see terrible and horrendous beings why asleep; there are stupid
> > voice murmurings within my throat, and chest.
>
> Immerse yourself in niceness.
> It is a method.
> If your entire day was immersed in happy go lucky feel good yummieness, your
> dreams are more likely to reflect that.
>
I try that and also issue positive voices of my own, within, to
counter it.
> > 6. I receive nail or pinching attacks everywhere on my body almost
> > every minute.
>
> What do you think that means ?
>
> Do they hurt ?
> Can you control them ?
> Can you induce them ?
Yes, they hurt, and it can not be controlled. I can not induce them
either, they are being done invisibly, perhaps in the spirit sense,
but it feels like "needle" jabs, or razor slices on my skin, eyes,
penis, legs, stomach, eyes, everywhere.
>
> Training :
> Relax your body untill you get an itch somewhere.
> Feel the itch.
> Embrace the itch.
> Send it happy thoughts, warmth, love.
> Feeeeeeeeeelll it.
>
I counter it by itching back. I will rather feel pain inflicting by
myself, than one being done by another.
> Keep that up till the itch resolves on its own.
>
> > My entire impressions and imaginations are so dark, I can not even
> > imagine any colored object.
>
> Try looking at some.
> You can do that online.
> Here's some :
> (random google search:http://www.area51newmexico.com/pictures_smile.php)
>
> Get your hands on some birdsong sounds.
>
It works at times, but I stopped because the entities were alluding to
sex, which would mean I have to look at pornographic images all the
time... but in other senses, I look at better images, if It appears I
see illusions of terrible stuffs. A spiritualist asked me once, if I
see dark shadows, or feel like I am being watches, and I said yes.
His assessment was, 'black magic'.
> Biologically we are comforted by birds singing, cos it is biologically far
> more dangerous if the birds are silent.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y&feature=fvw
>
> > They are so many irritating and dirty
> > movements within me -they are extremely dirty, and they emit dirty
> > feelings.
>
> What kinds of feelings ?
> (besides being dirty, how do you describe them more elaborately)
I see filthy places; my impression has been hijacked and forced to
look at only dirty places around where I live. When I traveled, open
gutters images were being impressed into my mind, when I sleep. It
almost seem like being done to inflict madness. At times, my entire
body feel disgust, like I was sleeping on the dirty floor outside.
I counter by singing, keeping the mind busy, running away from the
place, or going to cleaner places.
>
> > These started immediately after I finished my masters
> > degree, and after moving out of my host's house.
>
> That actually would most likely be the reason according to current
> psychological thinking.
I don't believe in such nonsensical phenomenon, when infact I was
never endangered. I moved on my own volition, and in perfect
reasoning.
>
> Out on your own.
>
> Gotta leave the nest sometime mate.
>
> > The results have been devastating; I haven't been able to look for any
> > employment for 2-
> > years solely because of these unusual activities.
>
> Get a cat.
>
> > Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> > have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> > spiritualists) to no avail. My researches lead me to "Black Magic" or
> > "Psychic Attack"; what objects could have been used to initiate the
> > attacks, I still don't know.
>
> To ward of psychic attack :
>
> Feel good about all of who you are.
> Every single movement of reality that nudges you to smile.
>
> Then cast a circle, invoke the arch angels, ask them for protection and
> guidance.
> Cleanse your home with prayer.
> (or other songs that purify you)
>
> Repeat this mornings-evenings daily untill cured.
I will certainly think of your remedy here, on the arch-angels, but
how long does it take to nullify or remediate the problem? It seems
very unusual to me, though.
Adeoluwa Odein
>
> news:b10c2f45-da5f-40a2...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hello,
>
> Heyas Adeoluwa.
>
> > For the past four years, I have been under severe attack by invisible
> > entities every minute of the day.
>
> Perhaps everyone is under the constant interaction with those invisible
> forces.
> (it becomes an entity when you name it)
I have no name for it, or them, nor do I know them or it. The images
of the being projected in my mind are terrible and grim looking.
>
> > The attacks are very uncomfortable and includes:
>
> > 1. a Serpent-like entitle lodged in my rectum -it was inserted by a
> > clawed-entity while I was asleep.
>
> So how did that make you feel ?
> Seems like some invasive imagery at least.
I felt what appeared to be a bird-claw grabbing my back, but almost
like the touch of plastic, yet so powerful I couldn't move it away.
The other entity inserted its mouth into mine, and lodged a "worm-
like" entity within. I punched it, but to know effect. I don't think
I actually effected the punch, it seem like a spirit being, or an
illusion to make it appear I did.
>
> Did you form any conclusions about it's meaning ?
> Serpent in the rectum would 'magickauthistically' mean; awakening of
> kundalini.
>
I didn't know, but it is irritating, disgusting and a terrible
prospect for any normal person to reflect on. Other readings may seem
so, but what would trigger kundalini awakening? Is it not based on my
living style?
> > 2. a worm-like entity that moves in my left stomach, it disperses
> > toxic energy within me.
>
> Further on you write you ingested it through your mouth.
>
> What do you mean with left stomach ?
> The left side of your body where you feel your stomach to be, or a second
> stomach ?
> (hey, in dreams such things are possible)
>
I mean the stomach entirely, but I feel it mostly moving in the left
part of my belly. I don't know its structure within, or in spirit
sense, but I feel roving irritation that's likened to a coiled worm or
serpent.
> > 3. It seems I have a spirit lodged in my left brain, it create pain
> > and headache over there
>
> Sleep on your right side.
> (so gravity may increase bloodflow to your right hemisphere)
Do you understand what's happening here... If I focus, I feel extreme
pressure or vibration on the left side, almost like my left brain or
membranes can explode. I mitigate the pain, by closing my left eye.
>
> > -I feel movements in that part of the head,
> > and in my entire face, to the extent that I have to use only the right
> > eye at times to perform any activities.
>
> Did you know that the left side of your brain actually controls your right
> eye ?
> (well, its movement anyway, from both eyes the left side goes into the right
> brain-hemisphere, and from both eyes the right side goes into your left
> hemisphere.
>
> Feeling pain in the brain is unlikely. (no pain receptors there, just
> conclusions about pain from the rest of the body)
> You feel the skull. (well, the skin on your skull)
> Sound is more interesting in that manner, it reflects inside the skull.
> (that is why you think your voice sounds different from when you hear a
> recording of it)
>
I also feel a ball-like object moving from my nasal cavity to the
forehead, but within... at times, it blocks air movement in the
nostrils. It's like heat movements within that area, it's being used
to simulate heat-pain in below the eyes, which is meant to make it
feel drowsy, tired, and then to sleep.
> > 4. There are toxic like energies moving within my chest -the
> > translation of this is a "suicide-attack"; one meant for you to either
> > commit suicide by using any sharp object to tear your cheast/stomach
> > open.
>
> What self-medication did you try, and which one are you trying at the moment
> ?
>
None... I abore all forms of medication unless those prescribed for
physical ailments, but these do not seem physical.
> > 5. I see terrible and horrendous beings why asleep; there are stupid
> > voice murmurings within my throat, and chest.
>
> Immerse yourself in niceness.
> It is a method.
> If your entire day was immersed in happy go lucky feel good yummieness, your
> dreams are more likely to reflect that.
>
I try that and also issue positive voices of my own, within, to
counter it.
> > 6. I receive nail or pinching attacks everywhere on my body almost
> > every minute.
>
> What do you think that means ?
>
> Do they hurt ?
> Can you control them ?
> Can you induce them ?
Yes, they hurt, and it can not be controlled. I can not induce them
either, they are being done invisibly, perhaps in the spirit sense,
but it feels like "needle" jabs, or razor slices on my skin, eyes,
penis, legs, stomach, eyes, everywhere.
>
> Training :
> Relax your body untill you get an itch somewhere.
> Feel the itch.
> Embrace the itch.
> Send it happy thoughts, warmth, love.
> Feeeeeeeeeelll it.
>
I counter it by itching back. I will rather feel pain inflicting by
myself, than one being done by another.
> Keep that up till the itch resolves on its own.
>
> > My entire impressions and imaginations are so dark, I can not even
> > imagine any colored object.
>
> Try looking at some.
> You can do that online.
> Here's some :
> (random google search:http://www.area51newmexico.com/pictures_smile.php)
>
> Get your hands on some birdsong sounds.
>
It works at times, but I stopped because the entities were alluding to
sex, which would mean I have to look at pornographic images all the
time... but in other senses, I look at better images, if It appears I
see illusions of terrible stuffs. A spiritualist asked me once, if I
see dark shadows, or feel like I am being watches, and I said yes.
His assessment was, 'black magic'.
> Biologically we are comforted by birds singing, cos it is biologically far
> more dangerous if the birds are silent.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y&feature=fvw
>
> > They are so many irritating and dirty
> > movements within me -they are extremely dirty, and they emit dirty
> > feelings.
>
> What kinds of feelings ?
> (besides being dirty, how do you describe them more elaborately)
I see filthy places; my impression has been hijacked and forced to
look at only dirty places around where I live. When I traveled, open
gutters images were being impressed into my mind, when I sleep. It
almost seem like being done to inflict madness. At times, my entire
body feel disgust, like I was sleeping on the dirty floor outside.
I counter by singing, keeping the mind busy, running away from the
place, or going to cleaner places.
>
> > These started immediately after I finished my masters
> > degree, and after moving out of my host's house.
>
> That actually would most likely be the reason according to current
> psychological thinking.
I don't believe in such nonsensical phenomenon, when infact I was
never endangered. I moved on my own volition, and in perfect
reasoning.
>
> Out on your own.
>
> Gotta leave the nest sometime mate.
>
> > The results have been devastating; I haven't been able to look for any
> > employment for 2-
> > years solely because of these unusual activities.
>
> Get a cat.
>
> > Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> > have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> > spiritualists) to no avail. My researches lead me to "Black Magic" or
> > "Psychic Attack"; what objects could have been used to initiate the
> > attacks, I still don't know.
>
> To ward of psychic attack :
>
> Feel good about all of who you are.
> Every single movement of reality that nudges you to smile.
>
> Then cast a circle, invoke the arch angels, ask them for protection and
> guidance.
> Cleanse your home with prayer.
> (or other songs that purify you)
>
> Repeat this mornings-evenings daily untill cured.
Adeoluwa Odein
But I felt someone, at one time, in the dark, magnetizing me to the
chair while I lay relaxing. The magnetism took about 5 seconds, and I
couldn't move, then it gave way. It can't be. I am sure it was being
done by a being, perhaps meant to confuse my mind into thinking it is
a medical condition.
My thoughts are being read, and in response, I feel certain
sensations, either the needle-strike, or a voice, almost motivation,
but sarcastic. That's how I know my mind is being read --since some
attacks are in response to a thought.
bassos
> On Dec 8, 11:05 am, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
>> "Adeoluwa Odein" <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:b10c2f45-da5f-40a2...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Hello,
>>
>> Heyas Adeoluwa.
>>
>> > For the past four years, I have been under severe attack by invisible
>> > entities every minute of the day.
>>
>> Perhaps everyone is under the constant interaction with those invisible
>> forces.
>> (it becomes an entity when you name it)
>
> I have no name for it, or them, nor do I know them or it.
How are you responding to the changes in your belief system.
The stories told.
The rolemodels altered.
> The images of the being projected in my mind are terrible and grim
> looking.
Have you spoken to them ?
Or perhaps better;
Told the being to identify itself ?
You are a spark of all that is.
You are indestructible and the ruler of all you experience.
Take control.
(and that is not in any way a claim of it being anyone's fault, there is
only one movement)
<snip, thank you for elaborating, but it is a more effective method if the
past is not regarded as anything special>
>> Did you form any conclusions about it's meaning ?
>> Serpent in the rectum would 'magickauthistically' mean; awakening of
>> kundalini.
>
> I didn't know, but it is irritating, disgusting and a terrible
> prospect for any normal person to reflect on.
Why would a normal person find difficulties in reflecting some parts of what
is experienced ?
> Other readings may seem so, but what would trigger kundalini awakening?
> Is it not based on my
> living style?
It might be.
Origins of movement are not actually so much needed to change movement in a
new direction.
(at least for the person moving)
>> > 3. It seems I have a spirit lodged in my left brain, it create pain
>> > and headache over there
>>
>> Sleep on your right side.
>> (so gravity may increase bloodflow to your right hemisphere)
>
> Do you understand what's happening here.
No.
I have only what you write.
It is you who is the expert on you.
Sometimes clarity is hard to come by and we stumble in the dark.
If in a dark place, remember the light.
> If I focus, I feel extreme pressure or vibration on the left side, almost
> like my left brain or
> membranes can explode.
What do you mean by "if you focus" ?
> I mitigate the pain, by closing my left eye.
That uses muscles.
Back to training to relax all your muscles, cos the ones in your head appear
to be sub-optimal.
>> > 4. There are toxic like energies moving within my chest -the
>> > translation of this is a "suicide-attack"; one meant for you to either
>> > commit suicide by using any sharp object to tear your cheast/stomach
>> > open.
>>
>> What self-medication did you try, and which one are you trying at the
>> moment
>> ?
>
> None... I abore all forms of medication unless those prescribed for
> physical ailments, but these do not seem physical.
What about food ?
Drink ?
Everything we ingest is some form of medication.
We more choose the ones we prefer over others.
I do not get any flew shots or such, but if my body would pinch me every
minute without me controlling it, i would go and get it fixed.
Think about it like an imbalance in the machinery consciousness uses to
express itself through you.
Perhaps it only takes a bit of tuning.
>> > 5. I see terrible and horrendous beings why asleep; there are stupid
>> > voice murmurings within my throat, and chest.
>>
>> Immerse yourself in niceness.
>> It is a method.
>> If your entire day was immersed in happy go lucky feel good yummieness,
>> your
>> dreams are more likely to reflect that.
>
> I try that and also issue positive voices of my own, within, to
> counter it.
Sing !
<you mentioned eyes as part of the pain part twice>
Perhaps also see an eye-doctor.
>> > My entire impressions and imaginations are so dark, I can not even
>> > imagine any colored object.
>>
>> Try looking at some.
>> You can do that online.
>> Here's some :
>> (random google search:http://www.area51newmexico.com/pictures_smile.php)
>>
>> Get your hands on some birdsong sounds.
>
> It works at times
Gotta keep it up.
Change takes time.
Your body has to adapt to it.
> but I stopped because the entities were alluding to
> sex, which would mean I have to look at pornographic images all the
> time.
So ?
Did you not know that the internet is for porn ?
What would be wrong with solo-orgasmic, auto-stimulated, total union with
the devine ?
How refined is porn for bringing us close to union ?
> but in other senses, I look at better images, if It appears I
> see illusions of terrible stuffs. A spiritualist asked me once, if I
> see dark shadows, or feel like I am being watches, and I said yes.
> His assessment was, 'black magic'.
Heh, a spiritualist.
Is that an adherant to spiritism ?
If so, ofcourse such a person would conclude black magick.
They deal in spirits supposedly controlling them.
>> Biologically we are comforted by birds singing, cos it is biologically
>> far
>> more dangerous if the birds are silent.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y&feature=fvw
>>
>> > They are so many irritating and dirty
>> > movements within me -they are extremely dirty, and they emit dirty
>> > feelings.
>>
>> What kinds of feelings ?
>> (besides being dirty, how do you describe them more elaborately)
>
> I see filthy places; my impression has been hijacked and forced to
> look at only dirty places around where I live.
Clean them up ?
Start with 1 spot.
> When I traveled, open
> gutters images were being impressed into my mind, when I sleep. It
> almost seem like being done to inflict madness. At times, my entire
> body feel disgust, like I was sleeping on the dirty floor outside.
Do germs bother you ?
> I counter by singing, keeping the mind busy, running away from the
> place, or going to cleaner places.
Sing mate, sing, it is good for anyone.
Use it for immersion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo
>> > These started immediately after I finished my masters
>> > degree, and after moving out of my host's house.
>>
>> That actually would most likely be the reason according to current
>> psychological thinking.
>
> I don't believe in such nonsensical phenomenon, when infact I was
> never endangered. I moved on my own volition, and in perfect
> reasoning.
So you create your problems why ?
>> Out on your own.
>>
>> Gotta leave the nest sometime mate.
>>
>> > The results have been devastating; I haven't been able to look for any
>> > employment for 2-
>> > years solely because of these unusual activities.
>>
>> Get a cat.
Scratch that, get two cats, as kittens.
(AND DO NOT LET ME CATCH YOU NOT LOVING THEIR INDEPENDANT SPIRITS)
>> > Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
>> > have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
>> > spiritualists) to no avail. My researches lead me to "Black Magic" or
>> > "Psychic Attack"; what objects could have been used to initiate the
>> > attacks, I still don't know.
>>
>> To ward of psychic attack :
>>
>> Feel good about all of who you are.
>> Every single movement of reality that nudges you to smile.
>>
>> Then cast a circle, invoke the arch angels, ask them for protection and
>> guidance.
>> Cleanse your home with prayer.
>> (or other songs that purify you)
>>
>> Repeat this mornings-evenings daily untill cured.
>
> I will certainly think of your remedy here, on the arch-angels,
The thinking about it is ineffective.
It is about the doing.
> but how long does it take to nullify or remediate the problem?
Depends on you.
For instance, if you like, you can completely not do any of what i wrote.
All your choice.
> It seems very unusual to me, though.
It is unique.
For you.
Ato_Zee
On 8-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> His assessment was, 'black magic'.
Sounds more like the classic after effects and symptoms
of an alien abuction.
> I stopped because the entities were alluding to
> sex, which would mean I have to look at pornographic images all the
> time...
That's typical of an alien abduction, all they are interested in is
sex and creating a human/alien chimera, so they can merge with
us without being noticed, then take over the world and enslive us.
Typical politicians in fact.
Adeoluwa Odein
How do you stop it? and how could it be? What attracted them to me?
Obviously, an image of a being that seem demonic or typically
extraterrestial (as seen on TV) is seen at times in my impressions or
mind.
Adeoluwa Odein
> > "Adeoluwa Odein" <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:15b85d51-426c-4db4...@f20g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> > On Dec 8, 11:05 am, "bassos" <zebazz_nope at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> >> "Adeoluwa Odein" <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:b10c2f45-da5f-40a2...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > Hello,
>
> >> Heyas Adeoluwa.
>
> >> > For the past four years, I have been under severe attack by invisible
> >> > entities every minute of the day.
>
> >> Perhaps everyone is under the constant interaction with those invisible
> >> forces.
> >> (it becomes an entity when you name it)
>
> > I have no name for it, or them, nor do I know them or it.
>
> How are you responding to the changes in your belief system.
> The stories told.
> The rolemodels altered.
>
I have changed my beliefs on God; I don't believe anymore, because
after he has not being able to stop the attacks, or inform me of what
may be happening, being that he's supposed to be omnipotent, and
omnipresent.
> > The images of the being projected in my mind are terrible and grim
> > looking.
>
> Have you spoken to them ?
>
> Or perhaps better;
> Told the being to identify itself ?
>
> You are a spark of all that is.
> You are indestructible and the ruler of all you experience.
>
Yes, I have asked it to identify itself, but no response. At times
the voice claims it self as being being my travails, to be the "Holy
spirit", or "Jesus" or "God"
> Take control.
> (and that is not in any way a claim of it being anyone's fault, there is
> only one movement)
>
> <snip, thank you for elaborating, but it is a more effective method if the
> past is not regarded as anything special>
>
> >> Did you form any conclusions about it's meaning ?
> >> Serpent in the rectum would 'magickauthistically' mean; awakening of
> >> kundalini.
>
> > I didn't know, but it is irritating, disgusting and a terrible
> > prospect for any normal person to reflect on.
>
> Why would a normal person find difficulties in reflecting some parts of what
> is experienced ?
>
How can I reflect or think of a Snake or Serpent? No one would dare
to such.
> > Other readings may seem so, but what would trigger kundalini awakening?
> > Is it not based on my
> > living style?
>
> It might be.
>
> Origins of movement are not actually so much needed to change movement in a
> new direction.
> (at least for the person moving)
>
> >> > 3. It seems I have a spirit lodged in my left brain, it create pain
> >> > and headache over there
>
> >> Sleep on your right side.
> >> (so gravity may increase bloodflow to your right hemisphere)
>
> > Do you understand what's happening here.
>
> No.
>
> I have only what you write.
>
> It is you who is the expert on you.
>
> Sometimes clarity is hard to come by and we stumble in the dark.
>
It is being done in an intelligent manner, to inflict pain. It
occurred while I was driving on the expressway, and I had to use one
eye to drive; I was needle-striked at the same time, and it could have
become an accident.
> If in a dark place, remember the light.
I do, but it appears my impression may be looking downwards, so I look
upwards; doesn't that seem like what you would think of a mentally
disturbed person, as seem in the hospitals.
I sense they are trying to induce me into mental institution -the
entire attacks, and the expected response. If done in public, people
would think you are insane.
>
> > If I focus, I feel extreme pressure or vibration on the left side, almost
> > like my left brain or
> > membranes can explode.
>
> What do you mean by "if you focus" ?
>
If you concentrate on your thinking. I felt vibration over there,
except it didn't seem physical, but perhaps in another layer, but then
you would think it could damage that part of the brain. One should
never feel such vibration unless you are lifting a heavy object or
weight, like the sports guys do.
> > I mitigate the pain, by closing my left eye.
>
> That uses muscles.
>
> Back to training to relax all your muscles, cos the ones in your head appear
> to be sub-optimal.
>
> >> > 4. There are toxic like energies moving within my chest -the
> >> > translation of this is a "suicide-attack"; one meant for you to either
> >> > commit suicide by using any sharp object to tear your cheast/stomach
> >> > open.
>
> >> What self-medication did you try, and which one are you trying at the
> >> moment
> >> ?
>
> > None... I abore all forms of medication unless those prescribed for
> > physical ailments, but these do not seem physical.
>
> What about food ?
> Drink ?
>
> Everything we ingest is some form of medication.
> We more choose the ones we prefer over others.
>
> I do not get any flew shots or such, but if my body would pinch me every
> minute without me controlling it, i would go and get it fixed.
>
How would you fix it?
> Think about it like an imbalance in the machinery consciousness uses to
> express itself through you.
> Perhaps it only takes a bit of tuning.
The ex-priest at my university said so, and advised me to see a
spiritualist.
>
> >> > 5. I see terrible and horrendous beings why asleep; there are stupid
> >> > voice murmurings within my throat, and chest.
>
> >> Immerse yourself in niceness.
> >> It is a method.
> >> If your entire day was immersed in happy go lucky feel good yummieness,
> >> your
> >> dreams are more likely to reflect that.
>
> > I try that and also issue positive voices of my own, within, to
> > counter it.
>
> Sing !
>
> <you mentioned eyes as part of the pain part twice>
>
> Perhaps also see an eye-doctor.
Yes, that occurred three weeks ago, and it seemed done to prevent me
from researching on the computer all the time; it has seen gone, and
returned to normal as before the attack (an entity was moving inside
my eyeballs/skull and I felt hot-vapor going there, thus making it
difficult for me to focus and open my eyes)
Then what do you think is at work?
I didn't. It happened uncoerced.
> >> Out on your own.
>
> >> Gotta leave the nest sometime mate.
>
> >> > The results have been devastating; I haven't been able to look for any
> >> > employment for 2-
> >> > years solely because of these unusual activities.
>
> >> Get a cat.
>
> Scratch that, get two cats, as kittens.
> (AND DO NOT LET ME CATCH YOU NOT LOVING THEIR INDEPENDANT SPIRITS)
>
>
>
> >> > Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> >> > have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> >> > spiritualists) to no avail. My researches lead me to "Black Magic" or
> >> > "Psychic Attack"; what objects could have been used to initiate the
> >> > attacks, I still don't know.
>
> >> To ward of psychic attack :
>
> >> Feel good about all of who you are.
> >> Every single movement of reality that nudges you to smile.
>
> >> Then cast a circle, invoke the arch angels, ask them for protection and
> >> guidance.
> >> Cleanse your home with prayer.
> >> (or other songs that purify you)
>
> >> Repeat this mornings-evenings daily untill cured.
>
> > I will certainly think of your remedy here, on the arch-angels,
>
> The thinking about it is ineffective.
>
The thinking is I may be dabbling in exercises I have no knowledge of.
bassos
>
> It is unique.
>
> For you.
Even though it was unique, the method used was eternal.
(but always changing anyway :P)
So even though this exchange lacked some honesty, the outcome is still quite
ok.
(some worthwile tips)
Tom
> On Dec 8, 10:59 am, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 8, 5:11 am, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 8, 5:03 am, "Ato_Zee" <ato_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On 8-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Any assistance that you experts can render will be appreciated. I
> > > > > have seen about 12 religious leaders (6 Christian pastors/6
> > > > > spiritualists) to no avail.
>
> > > > Wrong people, try a psychotherapist, one recommened
> > > > by your physician or local hospital.
>
> > > Are you sure? These seem like demons!
>
> > Of course they do. Parts of your own consciousness that start acting
> > autonomously and not in the best interests of your ego always seem
> > demonic.
>
> I am from Africa. These entities made references a class exercise I
> did for my Masters, and they seem to have speech profiles a West
> Indian, or so. How did I know? By what they say; they use
> vulgarities that refer to female private parts. Are you sure this is
> part of my consciousness?
Yes, I'm pretty sure.
> The entities started manifesting after
> those objects were deposited with my mouth. The other object moves
> like a serpent in my scrotum, and comes out in a very irritating
> manner in my rectum, like simulating sex, or so. It's terrible.
I know it must feel terrible. The discomfort is real. The real cause
for your real discomfort is not necessarily the one you propose,
though.
> > Nothing, really. I don't think Alrah is right about that. You don't
> > need psychotherapy as much as you need a drug that brings those
> > naughty autonomous bits of consciousness back into line. A
> > psychiatrist can help you find the right one.
>
> > Psychotherapy may eventually help you learn to deal with the feelings
> > you have, but that could take years. For more immediate relief from
> > your physical symptoms you're going to need a psychiatrist.
>
> I thought much. But why should I take medication because of certain
> abnormal people.
Because you've tried a lot of other things and they haven't worked.
That means it's probably time to try something else. Maybe it won't
work either, but you won't know that until you've tried it.
> An ex-priest at my ex-university said this happens
> the longer you stay in the US. Honestly, it didn't make any sense,
> since other people never complain of such issues.
I agree that neurochemical therapy is a typical approach used here in
America.
However, if you think that your problem is an African culture-based
malady, then you'll be looking for an African culture-based remedy.
Have you tried to find a Voudou houngan or mambo? They may have
greater success in convincing you that they can make the problem go
away than a psychiatrist would.
Adeoluwa Odein
Tom,
I agree with you --especially when the attacks started in a sudden and
quick manner, that's unlike any illness, which exhibit consistent
symptoms. This one exhibit intelligent symptoms. Thanks --what I
meant is, it points to magic, a dark one. You can correct me if I am
wrong.
--
Tom
>
> I agree with you --especially when the attacks started in a sudden and
> quick manner, that's unlike any illness, which exhibit consistent
> symptoms.
Some ilnesses have very rapid onsets. Others go on for years without
any symptoms at all and then all of a sudden start to manifest in
multiple ways. Don't overgeneralize about this.
> This one exhibit intelligent symptoms. Thanks --what I
> meant is, it points to magic, a dark one. You can correct me if I am
> wrong.
Any experience that we previously believed to be physically impossible
will appear to us as magical. Also, it's a lot less ego-deflating to
believe you are suffering from some weirdly magical curse, which is
exotic and even carries a little positive social status, than it does
to believe you are suffering from a mental illness, which is mundane
and carries very negative social implications. So we know which
explanation you *want* to believe.
Adeoluwa Odein
I understand, Tom. The voices seem to be coming from objects like
nanite (nanotechnology) moving to my throat, and chest. It at times
identify itself as "Jesus", or the "Holy spirit", but does it as if it
is a caricature.
It speaks at times, by making references to single words like "you",
etc.
Tom
A confused representation, perhaps, rather than a caricature. That
weird, wriggly feeling you have, like little bugs are moving under
your skin, is not an uncommon tactile hallucination. It's often
reported, for example, during delerium tremens, associated with
withdrawal from alcohol or barbiturates. There's probably a bunch of
neurons that mediate the feeling of creepiness, just as there are a
bunch that mediate fear. In fact, they may well overlap.
While lots of deep meanings can be explored by ruminating over dream
images and such, your immediate distress indicates that you might want
to start with the basics first and work your way up. Maybe this is
just your neurochemistry acting up after a whole lot of stress like
coming to America and facing the demands of grad school while being in
a very strange place with almost no friends and all that. Not to
mention all the hopes and expectations that the folks back home put on
you...
Maybe all you need is some time to calm down and let go for a while.
Let your brain have a little rest. Go see a doc.
Ato_Zee
> Also, it's a lot less ego-deflating to
> > believe you are suffering from some weirdly magical curse, which is
> > exotic and even carries a little positive social status, than it does
> > to believe you are suffering from a mental illness, which is mundane
You need something to take your mind off it. Try H P Lovecraft,
for light reading, his experiences will make your seem trivial by
comparison.
Adeoluwa Odein
Any remedies to Alien abduction syndrome? So they tend to inflict or
ensnare politicians?
Alrah
Alien Seduction Syndrome requires regular clensing. A.V. impregnated
paper inscribed with the logo of Anubis the younger is recommended.
http://www.andrexpuppy.co.uk/andrex-product-range/andrex-aloe-vera/
Ato_Zee
On 10-Dec-2009, Alrah <alrah-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > So they tend to inflict or ensnare politicians?
Of course they ensnare politicians, they want power over us, and
to subdugate us to be their slaves.
That's what politicians are, and that is how they work.
We want better schools and hospitals, they want and start wars.
> > Any remedies to Alien abduction syndrome?
There is no cure, you can only try to work from within and subvert
their plan by becoming a double agent.
If they discover this they will drive you insane, and may ultimately
kill you.
They have to be stopped before the likes of one recent well known
politician brings the ultimate thermo-nuclear war and Armageddon
upon us.
Adeoluwa Odein
Adeoluwa Odein
And how do these "Aliens" identify potential targets?
Ato_Zee
On 10-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > �Any remedies to Alien abduction syndrome?
> >
> > There is no cure, you can only try to work from within and subvert
> > their plan by becoming a double agent.
> > If they discover this they will drive you insane, and may ultimately
> > kill you.
> > They have to be stopped before the likes of one recent well known
> > politician brings the ultimate thermo-nuclear war and Armageddon
> > upon us.
>
> And how do these "Aliens" identify potential targets?
They pick individuals at random, usually when they are isolated,
so the abduction has no witnesses, then they implant nano-
technology so that they can control the abductee.
They screen them for ability and potential to achieve
key positions in society, so that the abductee under alien
control, gets to a key position, in government, finance, or the
military, so that they can further the alien agenda.
Adeoluwa Odein
So you mean they might have been watching me at certain events, and
when it became apparent that I was living alone, they striked?
Well, the first stage in my case, was what I am sure I saw -a white
flash of a head/shoulder on my wall, while relaxing in the dark. I
suspected that was a sentient being, but consequent research alludes
to the evil "angel of light"
Ato_Zee
> I
> suspected that was a sentient being, but consequent research alludes
> to the evil "angel of light"
>> "angel of light" and similar figures are often used terminology
to explain the inexplicable. Mythology has many similar figures,
and the Bible has reference to a "Flying Roll"
King James, Bible British and American versions
"Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold
a flying roll."
Zechariah 5
And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits,
and the breadth thereof ten cubits
The aliens have been on earth for a long time and are by experience
good at concealment.
Even the nano-technology that they plant is primarily organic, come to
think of it your brain is organic, and it controls you, and they just use
organic nano-technology to control the brain of their abductees.
Nano-technology does not have to be silicon, or based on inorganic
materials, many organic materials affect the brain, the psycho-active
organics, the aliens have just developed implants to continuously
produce psycho-active substances for the purpose of control.
Adeoluwa Odein
I have felt those organic nanobots produce similar psycho-active
substances, but perhaps by dispersing what has been identified as the
chakras. I have felt hotness underneath my eyes, which made me
drowsy. Others have been energy tasting like toxic materials, or
faeces, mucus/phlegm, poisonous substances, or the effects of
dirtiness, as if someone was lying with garbages/dirt, etc.
How does one disable them? They are irritating.
Ato_Zee
On 12-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have felt those organic nanobots produce similar psycho-active
> substances, but perhaps by dispersing what has been identified as the
> chakras. I have felt hotness underneath my eyes, which made me
> drowsy. Others have been energy tasting like toxic materials, or
> faeces, mucus/phlegm, poisonous substances, or the effects of
> dirtiness, as if someone was lying with garbages/dirt, etc.
>
> How does one disable them? They are irritating.
Difficult, but not impossible. The problem is locating them. Being organic,
they
are not readily differentiated from soft tissue by X-rays.
Some modern MRI scanners interpreted by an expert in the field
of alien implants might be able to find them.
Whether they should be removed is debateable, in viw of the possible
adverse outcome.
I quote --->
It has been hypothesized by several people including myself, that these
devices may be altering our bodies either physiologically, psychologically,
and perhaps even psychically. Therefore, it would seem that these implants
probably have functions other than being a device implanted merely for the
purposes of tracking the abductee.
Safe to Remove?
There was concern expressed by several respondents that having an alien
device removed from an abductee's body may not be such a safe decision,
since we know next to nothing about these objects. Concern that the devices
may be "booby-trapped," or "connected to nerve endings," or that we might
face the possibility of having "...our very first fatality during a removal
operation..." were some of the concerns expressed. In addition, it was also
suggested that a "moratorium [be] placed on further surgeries until we have
the results [of] the first ten or twelve [objects]." Considering the words
of the abductee who has already had one of these objects removed, I think
many people would agree that further implant removal surgeries should be put
on hold until there is time to monitor the abductees for physiological
and/or psychological changes, and until the laboratory analysis has been
published in a reputable journal.
Interestingly, a researcher and author who responded to the proposal stated
that if abductees are not frightened by "propaganda," they probably won't
elect to have their implants removed and that "the standard reaction is a
feeling of being intrigued by the device's presence."
[If you are an abductee and you know or suspect you have an alien implant or
a suspected foreign object in your body, do not let your fear of the unknown
or the requests of a researcher pressure you into making a snap decision to
have it removed. There is the possibility that the object has been in your
body for a long time and another week or even a month probably will not make
that much difference.]
Tom
> On 12-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have felt those organic nanobots produce similar psycho-active
> > substances, but perhaps by dispersing what has been identified as the
> > chakras. I have felt hotness underneath my eyes, which made me
> > drowsy. Others have been energy tasting like toxic materials, or
> > faeces, mucus/phlegm, poisonous substances, or the effects of
> > dirtiness, as if someone was lying with garbages/dirt, etc.
>
> > How does one disable them? They are irritating.
>
> Difficult, but not impossible. The problem is locating them. Being organic,
> they
> are not readily differentiated from soft tissue by X-rays.
"Nanobots"... Uh huh.
You boys have been watching too much Star Trek.
Adeoluwa Odein
It's the best description I can give .. the book, "Remarkable
Healings" by Shakuntala Modi,
describes the devices in detail. It calls them demonic devices. See
amazon for it.
Adeoluwa Odein
Which locations in the US has frequent abdutees? I was in Arlington,
Virginia when my issue started four years ago. And yes, the devices
are meant to create a physiological effect on the body and
personality; perhaps eventually to induce madness.
Tom
I always find it amazing the crap people will believe just because
some bozo wrote it in a book.
Of course, we have to remember that you're a guy who thinks he's got a
snake hiding up his ass. If you can manage to believe that you can
believe just about anything, so long as it feeds your fears.
Except the one fear you absolutely refuse to face at all. The fear
that you're mentally ill.
Adeoluwa Odein
One that's mentally ill can't assess symptoms that are abnormal to his
or her physiological makeup. But you are honest, it's a situation I
don't want to admit because it is one that's anathema to me. The
"snake" is just the best description I can give of the device itself -
but it's not a situation one would want to face.
The fear of being attacked by beings that one can not face is the
definition of "fear".
Ato_Zee
On 10-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And how do these "Aliens" identify potential targets?
Try YahooGroups
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/abductionforum/Description
Do you wake up to the terror of having been visited in the middle of the
night? Do you have the "feeling" that you have been abducted or contacted by
entities or perhaps alien beings? Do you have "missing time" episodes?
You are not alone. Many people have these experiences. This is a phenomenom
happening everyday. People around the world have reported similar events. We
here at the abduction forum want to hear about your experiences and thoughts
as to what this thing is. We welcome views from all sides this phenomenom.
The abduction forum is based on the idea that sharing information is the key
to knowledge and knowledge brings about knowing.
Also search for other groups by putting alien abduction in the search box
There are several. Including
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/abductionbuddies/
Description
This group has been created for abductees to come together in support of
each other. Hopefully we will be able to provide help for you through the
support system, counseling and if I feel it necessary...regressive hypnosis
through a qualified abduction hypnotist.
The first step will be to answer the questionaire found in the Files Section
in column to your left. This File MUST be filled out in order to remain in
support group.
This group is active participatin only.
Make sure you post a profile of yourself and your experience upon being
accepted as a member. This profile will be put in your file for others to
refer to.
As a member, please keep watching all the files in the left column as I will
be adding updates for your use.
Alrah
> On Dec 8, 11:30 am, Alrah <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 8 Dec, 15:52, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 8, 10:22 am, Alrah <alrah-pub...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Does this seem more inordinary to you?
>
> > No. There are perfectly reasonable and rational explantions for all
> > of these matters.
>
> > For instance - being magnetized to the bed and unable to move is
> > related to the chemical your brain produces during sleep that stops
> > you from sleep walking. Sometimes people will wake suddenly from deep
> > sleep and find themselves frozen as the chemical takes a few second to
> > go away. See? You lept to the conclusion it was demons, but
> > actually? Brain chemistry. Perfectly normal. No demons needed to
> > explain that one. :-)
>
> But I felt someone, at one time, in the dark, magnetizing me to the
> chair while I lay relaxing. The magnetism took about 5 seconds, and I
> couldn't move, then it gave way. It can't be. I am sure it was being
> done by a being, perhaps meant to confuse my mind into thinking it is
> a medical condition.
>
> My thoughts are being read, and in response, I feel certain
> sensations, either the needle-strike, or a voice, almost motivation,
> but sarcastic. That's how I know my mind is being read --since some
> attacks are in response to a thought.
Gentlemen.. these are not matters, impulses, feelings, compulsions you
should empathize with. Not at all, for the magickians of alt.magick.
We know these states gentlemen... come away now and banish as you
may. Prefereably now. lol.
Adeoluwa Odein
> Go to a Pentecostal Christian Church and ask for a "deliverance".
> You will have to give your life to Christ. The elders of your new church
> family will give you a deliverance session, and you will be freed from
> all those evil spirits. It worked for me.
One question though, don't you have to pray constantly, and attend
churches everytime? Otherwise, those evil spirits may still be
lurking behind?
Tom
Pretty much. Pentecostal Christian religion is a very high-
maintenance faith. It needs constant recharging by frequent and
prolonged church attendence as well as many prayers per day to keep
the demons from getting you. Miguel is quite correct when he says
that you have to give up your life in order to get any help from
Pentecostalists.
Alrah
*small voice* it's just all cowards isn't it?
Adeoluwa Odein
Not really a good solution to say. It's another type of enslavement.
Better yet, just find joy in your pain, and arouse your enemies to new
levels of misery. Just don't let it bother you! Good advice.
Alrah
>
> - Show quoted text -
It is said that love is the ultimate formula that defeats all demons.
And it's true.
Adeoluwa Odein
>
> - Show quoted text -
Let's assume this is a case of Black Magic, can one figure out who the
culprit could be? I find it extremely difficult to understand that
with the entire spiritual domain under GOD's authority, none can
discern, or GOD himself can not provide insights on those that
initiate what amounts to evil on others?
I ask, can one determine the initiator of evil magic on others, in any
way?
Ato_Zee
On 16-Dec-2009, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I ask, can one determine the initiator of evil magic on others, in any
> way?
Not that I know of. But one aspect of Magic is psychic protection,
against those using magic of evil intent towards you.
Quote-
Judy Hall is the author of twelve books including The Art of Psychic
Protection (which has been translated into eleven languages including
Romanian).
Can't speak personally of whether it has any merit, and there are
many books covering psychic protection.
Psychic protection is mainly based on methods that create a
protective barrier, and methods that seek to deflect any attack
back to its source.
Of the former Bellamine Witch Bottles, protective plants,
clensing rituals, (including smudging), feng shui, exorcism,
are common examples, but the list is by no means complete.
For the latter, more active, or rather pro-active methods, are used,
but these have a learnig curve. There are protective rituals, as well
as rituals to strike back at the source. Then some use, and claim
effectiveness for altars created for, and specifically designed, to reflect
black magic attempts back to their source. Altars are
regarded as creating patterns of power, and for a reflecting
element may include a mirror in their construction, which suggests
elements of sympathetic magic. Servitors are also used by some.
It is a personal thing, if you believe they are helping, then that
is what matters, not whether they have any scientific foundation.
After all what you believe is attacking you may not have any
scientific foundation.
The placibo effect has little scientific foundation but the medical
profession recognises it.
Science is still in its infancy.
Tom
Yep.
Tom
> On Dec 16, 11:13 am, Tom <danto...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 16, 1:35 am, Adeoluwa Odein <stratfordtena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 8, 8:44 am, gellie...@webtv.net (Miguel Alberto) wrote:
>
> > > > Go to a Pentecostal Christian Church and ask for a "deliverance".
> > > > You will have to give your life to Christ. The elders of your new church
> > > > family will give you a deliverance session, and you will be freed from
> > > > all those evil spirits. It worked for me.
>
> > > One question though, don't you have to pray constantly, and attend
> > > churches everytime? Otherwise, those evil spirits may still be
> > > lurking behind?
>
> > Pretty much. Pentecostal Christian religion is a very high-
> > maintenance faith. It needs constant recharging by frequent and
> > prolonged church attendence as well as many prayers per day to keep
> > the demons from getting you. Miguel is quite correct when he says
> > that you have to give up your life in order to get any help from
> > Pentecostalists.
>
> Not really a good solution to say. It's another type of enslavement.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
> Better yet, just find joy in your pain, and arouse your enemies to new
> levels of misery. Just don't let it bother you! Good advice.
If you think you can live with that, go ahead.
Tom
>
> Let's assume this is a case of Black Magic
OK, for the moment, let's assume that.
> can one figure out who the
> culprit could be?
You are. You have cursed yourself. I doubt you'll admit knowing why
or how, but the real culprit is you alright. We know this because
that's the nature of magick. Its effect is on you, not on others.
Where someone else has cursed you, the curse operates only because you
have been persuaded to believe it does. The power of magick is the
power to alter one's own beliefs, the ways in which we interpret
what's happening. So, as soon as you want this curse lifted, all you
have to do is stop believing that you're cursed. Transform yourself
magically into a person who is not being magically attacked.
Here's how: Instead of believing that you're cursed by Black Magic,
you could choose to believe that you have been experiencing an acute
stress reaction to your cultural dislocation combined with the sudden
release from the safe structure of a regimented degree program. Such
an adjustment reaction can and often does manifest as weird physical
feelings and persecutory delusions. Fortunately, this sort of acute
reaction is quite easily treated and you could be on your way to a
full recovery if only you'd go see a psychiatrist and tell him or her
honestly how you feel and then follow the advice you're given.
That's how magick works. The whole world is transformed by one simple
change of belief. The curse is lifted and a way forward suddenly
appears. But magical transformations do not happen on their own, any
more than curses do. You have to act on your new belief, not just pay
it lip service. You have to follow through.
Adeoluwa Odein
> No. The evil spirits are driven out, and, stay out. Before I
> became a Christian I had spirit guides, and one was very humorous and
>entertaining. After Deliverance they we gone and never came back.
>They were the evil fallen angels of Satan, and though they were nice to
>me, they were leading me to damnation. All such spirits are evil fallen
>angels of Satan. I didn't pray all the time. But, I am still a member of
>the same Pentecostal church.
>Prayer also consists of just talking to God with your mind. I talked to
>God in place of the spirit guides I used to talk to. When things go
>good, thank Him. When things go bad, ask Him for the kind of help you
>want. When you see magnificent things in nature, praise Him for His
>magnificent creation. It's easy.
>Sincrely,
> Miguel Alberto
Thanks, Miguel, for the clarifications. Did those evil spirits
torture you? I hear voices as well, senseless ones, and at times one
that claims to be "Jesus" and the "Holy spirit".
How could one have evil spirits as a guide? Did God make a mistake,
or he's still using those fallen angels as "consultants"?