Kori:
>>>>> The Google archive of alt.satanism shows that I have
>>>>> occasionally attempted to start a dialog with you
>>>>> on the topics of your rants.
does he call them rants? perhaps he doesn't like the term.
>>>>> You responded by making rude remarks similar to
>>>>> those in the voice blog at the link above. ....
hm, perhaps he thought that was enough?
>>>>> I have no intention of speaking to you on the phone,
he does seem to keep asking for that. interesting.
>>>>> or joining one of your sites
no guarantee he'll treat you with any more respect.
I'm unsure what i did to float his muffin, just ask
about his 501c3 and why it wasn't showing up. that
was enough (unless it was uploading my artwork --
i'd thought you'd have liked that part).
>>>>>> so we can settle things or whatever out of public view.
oh that's tired. he does so many things in public
earshot, why not solve it in public like this?
>>>>> No way. Cowards like you avoid usenet because it's
>>>>> public and unmoderated.
a number do indeed. he appears to be posting here, however.
the "NUFF SAID" stuff can get a bit stale, however, as if
he is used to controlling what gets said and how long a
thread or topic of conversation receives attention. hello?!
it happens in alt.satanism occasionally.
>>>>> Illiterates like you avoid usenet because you have
>>>>> problems reading and writing.
hey he may just be dyslexic. some folks have troubles with
that letters stuffs.
>>>>> [Venus Satanas'] questions about your version of
>>>>> Satanism were polite and serious
that's one of the reasons that i like her. she is polite
and intelligent.
>>>>> ...like kicking a wounded animal.
oh i didn't take it like that when i challenged him.
I just don't like hypocrisy and faking, and i wanted
to see if he would allow a challenge in his own forum.
the CoS forum (LTTD) didn't want me there due to
their disinterest in "my influences", so i was curious
whether any other 'Satanic' forum might. guess not.
usenet is unregulated and seemingly more substantive.
>>>>> Maybe women don't mind taking a poke at you
>>>>> because you are such a self-satisfied misogynist.
come on probably he just hasn't got over being dumped
by his former wife yet. has he always been this way?
is there any better to be satisfied than self-satisfied?
Venus Satanas:
>>>> I asked my questions of him out of a sincere
>>>> desire to know the answer. I am looking for an
>>>> intelligent discussion. I guess he wasn't
>>>> prepared for that.
so did i. judging by the ringing lack of address and
the "NUFF SAID" i gather he won't ever cop to it.
Kori:
>> ...Too bad he 'accidentally deleted' his older voice blogs
>> because there were a few in there about the escort service
>> he used to run, pricing a hooker for the night, female
>> friends he had who were dancers or [porn] stars, and
>> his liking for celebs with lots of surgical
>> modifications and enhancements. I don't know if
>> you ever enountered Blackwood back when he was a
>> pimp -- he used to sign his posts "Hail Satan!
>> and Hail the Ho's(sic)!"
well that's helpful information to know about him. we can see
if he now distances himself from that kind of thing and tries
to 'reinvent' himself through artful lying or not.
I have a friend or two who are supporters of hookers and
a few who are sex workers to boot. I'm not sure it is
really something to be ashamed about to being a pimp.
>> [M Blackwood] likes to feel that he has absolute control
>> over women; if he doesn't have it, he gets insulting.
an interesting evaluation. he appears to want to have
control over the men in his vicinity, else he would not
have bothered to cast me out for questioning his lies.
>> ...[Blackwood] shows up [in alt.satanism], makes some
>> kind of announcement about how the Temples of Satan
>> will 'make war' on all the other groups in the near
>> future, says that all other groups suck and are
>> pseudo-satanic.
weird. Venus mentioned something similar about how he
was saying he would "crush" other groups. it really does
sound like some kind of WWF presentation. why bother?
maybe he can address these items. I'm curious about them.
>> Of course someone always asks him WTF he's going on
>> about, at which point he insults them and disappears.
could be some kind of diagnosable problem. some folks
are plainly just unable to have a coherent conversation
with others and those who try and use big words may get
an earful of epithets on account of it.
>> I know he's been banned over and over on Occult
>> Forums, and he's been ranting occasionally on
>> here since at least 2003.
why was he banned from Occult Forums?
GrandMagisterBlackwood <Flagsh...@voyager.net>:
> Ask away[,] for you have been attacking me and not
> asking or questioning me in any[]way in the past
> several years[.]
well i think there were several questions asked of
you in this thread. I will reiterate them here in
case they were too difficult to parse:
1 -- why do you keep asking to talk with people
on the phone out of the public venues when
in fact the conversation is being started
in public and the individuals want it to
remain in public? are you more comfortable
talking privately on the phone with
people than exchanging text via keyboards?
2 -- why didn't you address Venus Satanas'
questions with more politeness? didn't
anyone ever teach you any manners?
3 -- have you always been misogynistic or has
this primarily been a development after
your marriage broke apart? are you used
to or do you prefer to have the upper
and control the situations with women?
4 -- are you looking for intelligent
discussions? if so, can you have one
here with us please? we'd like that.
5 -- why is it that your evaluations of your
competition with other Satanic orgs come
across as World Wrestling Federation
stand-offs and boasts? what do you like
about or hope to gain by these kinds of
braggadocios?
6 -- why were you banned from Occult Forums?
there, those weren't too difficult to find. I'd
appreciate it if you would address these or at
least explain why you don't want to answer them.
> I am the one that has his phone ringing[,] hence
> projects [are] underway with Irish Television and The
> History Channel
keen! have you completed any of these yet? how did they
go if so? the History Channel people are pretty swell.
> and continued growth in the Temples of Satan[.]
why is growth for the Temples a Good Thing? do you
think that greater and greater membership numbers
like the CoS and other Satanic org officers/leaders
sometimes proclaim is something to crow over?
> [So] for as bad as I am[,] the one thing you forget
> [is that] I have many who are working for me [--]
> Pastor and Alexander and many others[.]
neat. what are they doing for you? how are you
employing them? is this a part of your sales?
> [But] alas[,] I will ask again, any questions about
> me can be directed my way[.] [...You] think [that]
> I [am] scared to do [a] video[.]
I don't, but i can see why, if i have to take this
amount of trouble to make coherent sentences out of
your original type that Kori is saying what she says.
> [Hardly, as] I am 6-2[,] 275 [pounds,] and muscular[,]
> so losing 100 pounds would be a problem, but 25-50[,]
> sure[,] I need it[.] [However,] my life is filled with
> many great women and I have never [been] required to
> ...lose any weight[,] and besides[,] being cuddly
> works well for me!
glad to hear that, GM. I think that speaks well for you
as compared to some of the macho men who must be hard
and throwing their women around all the time. allowing
yourself to be cuddly and soft is an admirable and not
misogynist thing at all. speaks against what others may
be saying about you here.
> Both you and Venus do not know me, but you all will
> soon enough as I become more and more [well known]
> each day in my business[,] and in Satanism[.]
neat.
> [Meanwhile,] critics and people who love to lie
> about me become less and less [well known] each
> day[.] ...I will do a couple of videos soon[.]
can you point out some of those who like to lie
about you? do you think the fact that you have
chosen to lie about yourself and others (then
apologized for it later) factors into whether
you are a very good source on their being liars?
> ...I have never had a problem with anything
> asked of me, but I have never ran, its not
> in me, IGNORED YES! NUFF SAID
> Hail Satan
> GMB
you don't think that "ignoring" people by erasing
their plainspoken questions to you about that which
you appear to be lying about (e.g. your 501c3) is
actually a kind of running from the truth? ok you
never ran. I hope you won't run from this post.
you cannot throw me out of alt.satanism and you
cannot pretend like my post doesn't exist, is
mean to you, or insulting. I do not intend it to
be and i am trying to pose tough questions for
you which you can answer in your semi-parseable
block text if you like. thanks!
satanservice.org@noctifer (nocTifer)
Hi, nocTifer!
>
> >>>>> The Google archive of alt.satanism shows that I have
> >>>>> occasionally attempted to start a dialog with you
> >>>>> on the topics of your rants.
>
> does he call them rants? perhaps he doesn't like the term.
That's possible.
>
> >>>>> You responded by making rude remarks similar to
> >>>>> those in the voice blog at the link above. ....
>
> hm, perhaps he thought that was enough?
Could be. I've never been able to engage him in a discussion.
>
> >>>>> I have no intention of speaking to you on the phone,
>
> he does seem to keep asking for that. interesting.
>
> >>>>> or joining one of your sites
>
> no guarantee he'll treat you with any more respect.
> I'm unsure what i did to float his muffin, just ask
> about his 501c3 and why it wasn't showing up. that
> was enough (unless it was uploading my artwork --
> i'd thought you'd have liked that part).
Do you have links to examples of what you uploaded? I'd like to see!
>
> >>>>>> so we can settle things or whatever out of public view.
>
> oh that's tired. he does so many things in public
> earshot, why not solve it in public like this?
Yes! He's not going to remain an in-demand spokesman for the Lord and
Master Satan (tm) for long if his unwillingness to discuss any of his
beliefs, policies, or personal viewpoints comes to the attention of
the media. Someone will figure out that 1) he's hiding something or
2) he's a blustering, self-promoting, faker. Or maybe both of the
above.
>
> >>>>> No way. Cowards like you avoid usenet because it's
> >>>>> public and unmoderated.
>
> a number do indeed. he appears to be posting here, however.
> the "NUFF SAID" stuff can get a bit stale, however, as if
> he is used to controlling what gets said and how long a
> thread or topic of conversation receives attention. hello?!
> it happens in alt.satanism occasionally.
The other post he made tonight (about answers) is just a repost of
something from earlier this year. He added it to alt.satanism
previously on 01-03-09. That's not really the 'answer' I've been
looking for. I don't care much about how many members he has in his
group.
>
> >>>>> Illiterates like you avoid usenet because you have
> >>>>> problems reading and writing.
>
> hey he may just be dyslexic. some folks have troubles with
> that letters stuffs.
I know, and if that's the case with him, no blame - no foul. But
since he has so many active members in his group, he could always call
one of them on the phone and dictate a post to them, and have that
person read him any replies.
>
> >>>>> [Venus Satanas'] questions about your version of
> >>>>> Satanism were polite and serious
>
> that's one of the reasons that i like her. she is polite
> and intelligent.
Yes -- and not all that common in Satanism, sadly.
>
> >>>>> ...like kicking a wounded animal.
>
> oh i didn't take it like that when i challenged him.
> I just don't like hypocrisy and faking, and i wanted
> to see if he would allow a challenge in his own forum.
> the CoS forum (LTTD) didn't want me there due to
> their disinterest in "my influences",
Yeah, well...any influences but theirs. That may be a decades-old
echo of what happened to LaVey in 1974. He taught his people how to
avoid being assimilated, that resistance isn't always futile.
> so i was curious
> whether any other 'Satanic' forum might. guess not.
> usenet is unregulated and seemingly more substantive.
Satanists for the most part don't deal well with criticism.
>
> >>>>> Maybe women don't mind taking a poke at you
> >>>>> because you are such a self-satisfied misogynist.
>
> come on probably he just hasn't got over being dumped
> by his former wife yet. has he always been this way?
> is there any better to be satisfied than self-satisfied?
Dunno. Don't you think it is misogynistic to call any woman who
disagrees with you 'fat bitch'? Okay, I am a bitch sometimes. But he
has no way of knowing if I'm 'fat' or not. My doctor doesn't think I
am.
>
> Venus Satanas:
>
> >>>> I asked my questions of him out of a sincere
> >>>> desire to know the answer. I am looking for an
> >>>> intelligent discussion. I guess he wasn't
> >>>> prepared for that.
>
> so did i. judging by the ringing lack of address and
> the "NUFF SAID" i gather he won't ever cop to it.
>
> Kori:
>
> >> ...Too bad he 'accidentally deleted' his older voice blogs
> >> because there were a few in there about the escort service
> >> he used to run, pricing a hooker for the night, female
> >> friends he had who were dancers or [porn] stars, and
> >> his liking for celebs with lots of surgical
> >> modifications and enhancements. I don't know if
> >> you ever enountered Blackwood back when he was a
> >> pimp -- he used to sign his posts "Hail Satan!
> >> and Hail the Ho's(sic)!"
>
> well that's helpful information to know about him. we can see
> if he now distances himself from that kind of thing and tries
> to 'reinvent' himself through artful lying or not.
I wish you could have heard some of those voice blogs. I laughed so
hard at a few of them that I scared the cats!
>
> I have a friend or two who are supporters of hookers and
> a few who are sex workers to boot. I'm not sure it is
> really something to be ashamed about to being a pimp.
If a pimp is respectful, professional and handles it like a business
-- then, no, nothing to be ashamed of. If he's looking for a way to
feed an urge to control women who are sex workers out of desperation,
then he's a creep. I don't know Blackwood. I only know he showed up
here like 5 years ago boasting about his stable of 'escorts' and
signing his posts 'Hail the ho's(sic)'. I think the feds shut him
down. There was a voice blog about it, something about the border
with Canada?
>
> >> [M Blackwood] likes to feel that he has absolute control
> >> over women; if he doesn't have it, he gets insulting.
>
> an interesting evaluation. he appears to want to have
> control over the men in his vicinity, else he would not
> have bothered to cast me out for questioning his lies.
I don't think he likes men who are obviously more intelligent than he
is. He's a pretty good talker -- he's got that pulpit-pounding flow
-- but he falls flat in a discussion, I'm sure.
>
> >> ...[Blackwood] shows up [in alt.satanism], makes some
> >> kind of announcement about how the Temples of Satan
> >> will 'make war' on all the other groups in the near
> >> future, says that all other groups suck and are
> >> pseudo-satanic.
>
> weird. Venus mentioned something similar about how he
> was saying he would "crush" other groups. it really does
> sound like some kind of WWF presentation. why bother?
> maybe he can address these items. I'm curious about them.
WWF is a great analogy for it!
>
> >> Of course someone always asks him WTF he's going on
> >> about, at which point he insults them and disappears.
>
> could be some kind of diagnosable problem. some folks
> are plainly just unable to have a coherent conversation
> with others and those who try and use big words may get
> an earful of epithets on account of it.
Like 'cockroach'? That's what he called me LOL!
>
> >> I know he's been banned over and over on Occult
> >> Forums, and he's been ranting occasionally on
> >> here since at least 2003.
>
> why was he banned from Occult Forums?
For posting spam, preaching, proselytizing, and insulting other
participants. He would copy and paste his screeds (the same ones he
posted on usenet and any other occult-related forum he could find) --
this was the spam/preaching/proselytizing part. If another forum
member questioned him about the contents of his posts, he would turn
insulting.
Occult Forums was hacked several times, and users had to re-register
after most of the hacks. So Blackwood would show up every couple of
years, follow the same script, and get banned again.
I'm hoping he answers us here.
Luv,
Kori
>
> GrandMagisterBlackwood <Flagshipst...@voyager.net>:
I wanted to repost my questions again to Mr. Blackwood here, again, in
the hopes that he will want to answer them. I asked these questions
last week after reading several of his posts and listening to his
voice blog - where he used the terms 'real' and 'pure' to describe his
form of satanism. It all sounds like a nice idea, but what does that
really mean to Blackwood?
After i asked these questions, he replied by making the WWF blog post
saying that he would crush any other satanic org that stood in his
way. i am looking for a dialogue, just like he claims to be.
from:
[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.satanism/browse_thread/thread/
3f2c7b6681e68cd4]
..what is "Excellence and Purity in Satanism"? What qualifies for
this, and who qualifies to judge these merits?
What does 'purity' in Satanism mean?
Who is a 'pure Satanist'?
At what point does a Satanist become 'pure'?
What does excellence in Satanism require?
How is excellence in Satanism achieved?
Who can be perfect and pure in Satanism?
What does excellence in satanism mean?
How is purity in Satanism achieved?
...
If Blackwood is truly looking for an open dialogue now is his chance,
right here, right now.
VenusSatanas
KoriHoughton <koriho...@gmail.com>:
> Do you have links to examples of what you uploaded?
no, they were deleted from his bing-theistic-satanism
forum within 24 hours after i posted it. I uploaded
some of my Satanian art too, but was booted for now
discernable reason by a toadie.
> I'd like to see!
you'll have to ask Blackwood or his toadie to see it.
>> come on probably he just hasn't got over being dumped
>> by his former wife yet. has he always been this way?
>> is there any better to be satisfied than self-satisfied?
>
> Dunno. Don't you think it is misogynistic to call any
> woman who disagrees with you 'fat bitch'?
if it is truly any woman who disagrees with him, then yes.
if it is just some women who he may think have a weight
problem and he's preying on their insecurities, then maybe.
> Okay, I am a bitch sometimes. But he has no way of
> knowing if I'm 'fat' or not. My doctor doesn't
> think I am.
that's sufficient data to conclude he's misogynist, yes.
>> could be some kind of diagnosable problem. some folks
>> are plainly just unable to have a coherent conversation
>> with others and those who try and use big words may get
>> an earful of epithets on account of it.
>
> Like 'cockroach'? That's what he called me LOL!
oh my. well i meant like 'diagnosable' and 'government'.
> I'm hoping he answers us here.
does not appear to be happening any time soon.
hugs,
satanservice.org@noctifer (nocTifer)
Disclosure and Closure Temples of Satan Statement
Closure to Disclosure.
Grand Magister Blackwood
www.templesofsatan.com
Recently the Temples of Satan has been questioned by non affiliated
Organizations which have little of no relevance in the Left Hand Path.
The Temples of Satan was founded in 2000 by Grand Magister Blackwood
and Grand Mage Wynter it was founded in Michigan and Texas, in 2002 ,
Wynter moved on to form his Organization and Blackwood began to
process the paperwork for the 501 3 C which came to fruition in 2008,
our paperwork is not public information and offers no partnerships and
or stock we are not required to provide public access to any legal
names, or addresses under the incorporated state of origin.
The current structure is not providing monies or fiduciaries to any
groups or organization other than internal activities which allow us
to hold information confidential to non members of the public and
private sector.
As with this we do not provide any membership numbers other than those
released by Grand Magister Blackwood, during communiques and or
releases that provide promotional insight into the body of the
organization.
Information we can disclose:
The Temples of Satan operate coven operations in several states
including Illinois, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Florida, New York, and
Romania and Australia as well as Canada, our membership base is
estimated at over a thousand yet again remains confidential.
We partner with Flagship Media and operations of media releases and or
third party communiques are subject to governing body acceptance by a
team of titled Magister’s and Magistra which report to Grand Magister
Blackwood.
The Temples of Satan affiliates with Order of the Wolf and Order of
Dawn also with The Church of Theistic Satanism, and the Church of
Azerel and International Council of Satanists, and The Temples of Set,
and The First Church of Satan, otherwise the current body is not
interested in partnering and or unity efforts of any church or
organization that is not of Theistic Satanism.
We do not accept “watered down versions”of Left Hand Path groups and
or unity efforts as the Temples of Satan is not aligned in
Christianity and or Judaism and or Islam, nor do we find Hindu or
Buddhism useful to our goals.
We do not find Wicca, Paganism, Shamanic Orders and other weaker
versions beneficial to partner with other than to exchange ideas and
or knowledge that serve to the advantage of Satan.
Thanks
The Clergy of The Temples of Satan
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So Blackwood's Temples of Satan 'affiliates with' the Temple of Set
and the First Church of Satan? Who knew?
Luv,
Kori
On Oct 16, 10:51 pm, satanservice.org@noctifer (nocTifer) wrote:
> I didn't want to let these questions remain unanswered.
>
> KoriHoughton <korihough...@gmail.com>: