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Date: 2000/04/09
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Amazing Jonathan borrowed this trick from Arthur Buckley's wonderful
book, GEMS OF MENTAL MAGIC. A book, by the way, which contains some
of
the most incredible mental magic ever to see print. When I am
consulted
and asked where the really 'good stuff' is, GEMS is always at the top
of
the list.

Effect:

Hanging in the middle of the stage, about 8 feet up is a large manila
envelope. It was there before the show and remains there until the
trick is performed. The word "PREDICTION" is written across the front
of
the envelope. During the show an audience member is asked to predict
a
number, select a card, or call out some kind of prediction. I would
advise writting the information on a large blackboard so everybody
remembers the information. This can be done with several audience
members and is completly random.

After the information is gathered and written on the board, the
magician
yells "Jeff, Jeff, bring me the chair." to the side of the stage.
Jeff,
the trusty assistant brings out the chair. The magician stands on the
chair in order to reach up and retrieve the envelope containing the
PREDICTION.

He gets off the chair and opens the envelope. A folded piece of white
paper is removed from the envelope and handed to an audience member
to
read. She reads aloud and amazingly every one of the random
predictions
are written on the paper. NO SWITCHES, DUPLICATES OR STOOGES are
used.
All of the information is gathers in a completely random manner.

Method:

The assistant Jeff does all the work from back stage. The envelope is
empty the whole time. From back stage all of the information is
written
on the paper as it is called out. Then the piece of paper is folded
and
loaded onto the back of the chair.

After the magician plucks the envelope from above he leans down, and
in
the act of climbing off of the chair he places his hand (the one with
the envelope in it) on the top of the back of the chair. This is
where
he steals the folded piece of paper with his fingers and hides it
behind
the envelope. All that is left is to open the envelope and in the act
of pulling out the paper from inside, it really comes from the back
of
the envelope. Pulling the paper out is done RAPIDLY to help hide
where
it really came from.

Another option would be to cut a slit on one side of the enelope.
This
way you really could reach inside it then retrieve the folded
prediction
through the slit.

There are so many variations to this trick that I can't begin to
descrbe
them all. Your only limited by your imagination. I perform HEADLINE
PREDICTIONS by varying the handling slightly. Hint: Try to stay away
from national or natural disasters. People will come up to you after
the show and accuse you of being able to prevent things like airline
crashes and really puts you in a bad light.

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wow! MITCH thats the way i did it at my Church but THE ONLY THING IS
YOUR WAY IS MUCH MUCH BETTER WOW!:) i did it by switchind the blank
paper in enolpoe to a duplicte in back of chair in pocket it didn't go
very well the switch was not very accrate but the children loved the
rutine any way. :) http://community.webtv.net/magic-bill/Magicalideas
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wow! MITCH thats the way i did it at my Church but THE ONLY THING IS
YOUR WAY IS MUCH MUCH BETTER WOW!:) i did it by switchind the blank
paper in enolpoe to a duplicte in back of chair in pocket it didn't
go
very well the switch was not very accrate but the children loved the
rutine any way. :)

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Night Trap
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This article is about video game. For the film aka Mardi Gras for the
Devil, see Night Trap (film).
Night Trap
Original North American Sega CD cover art, note the content advisory
on the far right.

Developer(s) Digital Pictures
Publisher(s) Digital Pictures
Platform(s) Sega CD/Sega Mega-CD, Panasonic 3DO, Sega 32X, DOS/Mac
Release date(s) October 15, 1992
1993
Genre(s) Interactive movie
Mode(s) Single player
Rating(s) BBFC: 15
VRC: MA-17/Mature Warnings
Night Trap is a video game that was released on October 15, 1992. It
was created by Digital Pictures and reportedly cost US$1.5 million to
produce.[1] Night Trap was originally developed for Hasbro's NEMO
system, which used VHS tapes instead of ROM cartridges. However, when
Hasbro scrapped production on the NEMO, Night Trap was moved to the
Sega CD and later brought to the Sega 32X, 3DO Interactive
Multiplayer, and PC platforms with higher-quality video. The game
utilized full-motion video scenes entirely and is notorious for the
controversy it brewed in 1993, resulting in US Senate hearings and
bannings of the game nationwide.[2]

Contents [hide]
1 Story
2 Gameplay
3 Controversy
4 Reception
5 Platform differences
6 NEMO footage
7 Cast
8 References
9 External links

[edit] Story
A group of young co-eds are staying at Mr. and Mrs. Martin's for the
night. The Martin family seems like a normal American family, however,
odd things have been occurring at this house. Five girls who
previously stayed at the place had disappeared, so the "Sega Control
Attack Team" ("Sega" changed to "Special" once the game was ported to
other consoles) is called upon to protect the new guests and find out
what happened. As the new wave of girls arrive for a slumber party
(one of which is undercover SCAT agent Kelli, played by Dana Plato),
the vampiric Auger begin to invade the house.

[edit] Gameplay
Referred to as "control", the player views events via hidden cameras
set up in eight different locations, which can be viewed one at a
time. As the aforementioned Augers creep into the house, the player
has to spot them and use traps to capture them. At the bottom of a
screen rests a small meter; when this meter fills, it is the player's
signal to activate a trap in the room being viewed (i.e. a revolving
bookcase or a faux seal on the floor) and capture the Auger(s) on
screen, adding to the score.

The player must also have the correct security access code selected on
screen in order for the traps to work. The code is changed four times
throughout the course of the game, and keeping up with the accurate
code requires listening in on key conversations. Ultimately, high
performance requires repeat plays in order to gain complete knowledge
of the story and capture all Augers possible. Time always moves
forward, cannot be rewound, and if too many vampires are missed, the
game ends. The game will also end if certain characters are taken away
or if the hosts of the slumber party disconnect your access to the
traps.

[edit] Controversy
Night Trap is now infamous because of its part in the 1990s
Congressional hearings on offensive video game material. Night Trap
and Mortal Kombat are cited as primary factors in leading to the
development of the ESRB game industry ratings system.

On December 16, 1993, the Sega CD version of Night Trap was removed
from store shelves at Toys "R" Us and F.A.O. Schwarz locations in the
United States in direct response to a December 9, 1993 joint Senate
Judiciary and Government Affairs Committee hearing on video game
violence.[3] The hearings were covered heavily by the media and were
co-chaired by Senators Joseph Lieberman (Connecticut) and Herbert Kohl
(Wisconsin), during which Night Trap was cited as "shameful", "ultra-
violent", "sick", and "disgusting", encouraging an "effort to trap and
kill women". Contrary to such claims, players are not trapping or
killing women at all; rather, they are saving them from harm.

The infamous nightgown scene.The Congressional hearings were covered
in major newspapers including USA Today, The Washington Post and The
New York Times.[4] In particular, a game over scene in which the
character Lisa is wearing a nightgown while captured by Augers
attempting to drain her blood was found to be very offensive. In
defense of the game, Tom Zito (President and CEO of Digital Pictures)
attempted to explain the context of the nightgown scene during a
hearing session, but was met with little regard. In the short
documentary Dangerous Games (included with the PC version), the
producers and some members of the cast explain that the plot of the
game was to in fact prevent the trapping and killing of women. In
addition, the blood draining device was intended to look very
unrealistic and would therefore mitigate the violence.[4] Despite
scenes in which the girls are grabbed or pulled by enemies, no nudity
or extreme acts of violence were ever filmed or incorporated into the
game. [4]

Additionally, Night Trap's box art was criticized by interest groups
for what many believed to be a sexist depiction (see above). In 1994,
after the controversy died down, the game was ported to 3DO and Sega
32X, and for PC and Mac in 1995. All of these versions were released
with a new cover depicting a tame screenshot of Dana Plato from the
game, with decorative artwork in the background. [5] [6]

In 2007, Yahoo! Games listed it as one of the top ten controversial
games of all time.[7]

[edit] Reception
Due to the controversy and removal of the game from mainstream
outlets, the game was not financially successful. Today, many consider
the game to be a classic of the FMV game genre. The game's quality,
however, was criticized for its single unfolding of events, which led
to stale gameplay after only so many plays. Advancing in the game
often meant missing out on numerous scenes by focusing on other rooms
to capture Augers[8]. Night Trap was ranked the 12th "Worst Video Game
of All-Time" in an Electronic Gaming Monthly article by editor
SeanBaby. [9] He and other game journalists also featured the game in
a 2007 episode of their comedy web series, Broken Pixels. [8] Game
Informer listed the game among the worst horror games of all time in
2008.[10]

The developer, Digital Pictures, was otherwise notable for their use
of interactive video in titles including Sewer Shark, Corpse Killer
and Ground Zero: Texas.

[edit] Platform differences

The party sequence.The major differences between the Sega and 3DO/PC
versions were that all references and depictions of Sega related
products was eliminated from the latter versions. In order to do this,
the introduction and some of the other videos were replaced with the
original footage made for the game prior to its dedication to Sega CD,
as it was originally scheduled for release on the cancelled Hasbro
NEMO system.

Versions released after the Sega CD differed slightly in presentation.
Since later versions utilized better hardware, this allowed for the
video in Night Trap to be nearly two times larger than the Sega CD
edition and have better resolution. Also, an on-screen map with each
room color coded appeared at the bottom of the player's screen at all
times in the 3DO version, although it was useless for detecting
intruders. When the game was released for the Sega 32X, it saw the
same improvements introduced in later versions. The CD-ROM version
also includes a save feature, from which the player can access a new
pause menu with a large map of the house. This version also included
Dangerous Games, a brief documentary about the game and the
controversy that surrounded it (YouTube link).

Discussions between director Jim Riley and Digital Leisure have taken
place in an effort to produce a DVD port of Night Trap[citation
needed], but this has yet to produce any result. Since Hasbro sold
their videogame department to Infogames, licensing rights seem to be
undeclared, arguably hindering a DVD port from being produced.

[edit] NEMO footage
Footage of the never released VHS-based NEMO video game system can be
found in the Sega CD version of Night Trap when entering a button code
during the credits. This footage shows Hasbro executives taking a look
at Scene of the Crime (the prototype for Night Trap) in December 1986.

[edit] Cast
Dana Plato as Kelly
J. Bill Jones as Simms
Deke Anderson as Jason
William Bertrand as Eddie
Arthur Burghardt as Collins
Suzy Cote as Sarah Martin
Roy Eisenstein as Jim
Christy Ford as Megan
Blake Gibbons as Mike
Joshua Godard as Danny
Andras Jones as Jeff Martin
Jon R. Kamel as Victor Martin
Giovanni Lemm as Tony
Tracy Matheson as Cindy
Debra Parks as Lisa
Allison Rhea as Ashley
Molly Starr as Sheila Martin
Heidi Von Brecht as Swanson

[edit] References
^ GameSpy.com - Article
^ Sega to Withdraw, Revise `Night Trap' - The Washington Post -
HighBeam Research
^ ?http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-870489.html
^ a b c Dangerous Games - The 1995 documentary on Night Trap.
(QuickTime)
^ The Milwaukee Journal, March 9, 1995, electronic version available
here
^ Night Trap at MobyGames
^ Ben Silverman (2007-09-17). "Controversial Games". Yahoo! Games.
Retrieved on 2007-09-19.
^ a b http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/11240
^ [1] - EGM's Crapstravaganza The 20 Worst Games of All Time
^ “The Wrong Kind of Scary: Worst Horror Games Ever,” Game Informer
186 (October 2008): 121.

[edit] External links
"R18+ and Video Games: A History of Violence" a North Sydney TAFE Film/
TV Production by Alexander Gabbott addressing the lack of an R18+
Rating in Australia, heavily focusing on Night Trap as being the
Catalyst for the introduction of Classifications within that Country
Night Trap at MobyGames
Night Trap at the Internet Movie Database
Night Trap Retro Corner - XLEAGUE.TV/ScrewAttack's retro video feature
on the title.
"A History of Video Game Controversy" article on Duke Nukem and Night
Trap from GameSpot
"VHS: The Future of Gaming" from GameSpy
SeanBaby's (of EGM) 20 Worst Video Games of All-Time
Night Trap reviews at Game Rankings
Night Trap for Sega CD screen captures from the game
Night Trap for Sega CD 32X screen captures from the game
Eidolons-inn.net" Sega Cd movie viewer program and everything else
concerning Sega
[hide]v • d • eVideo game controversy

Computer and
video game law Family Entertainment Protection Act · Truth in Video
Game Rating Act · Video Game Decency Act · Video Recordings Act 1984 ·
California Assembly Bills 1792 & 1793 · Greek electronic game ban

Organizations and
rating systems Active Entertainment Software Rating Board · Pan
European Game Information · Department of Justice, Rating, Titles and
Qualification (Brazil) · Computer Entertainment Rating Organization ·
Unterhaltungssoftware Selbstkontrolle · National Coalition Against
Censorship · TIGRS · Valtion elokuvatarkastamo · Game Rating Board ·
British Board of Film Classification · Office of Film and Literature
Classification (Australia) · Office of Film and Literature
Classification (New Zealand) · Internet Content Rating Association

Defunct Videogame Rating Council · Recreational Software Advisory
Council · 3DO Rating System · Entertainment and Leisure Software
Publishers Association · Korea Media Rating Board

Major figures Lawsuits James v. Meow Media · Strickland v. Sony ·
Entertainment Software Association v. Foti

Individuals Evan Bayh · Fred Upton · Herb Kohl · Hillary Rodham
Clinton · Jack Thompson · Joe Lieberman · Julia Boseman · Keith Vaz ·
Leland Yee · Rick Santorum · Sam Brownback · Tim Johnson

Genres Eroge · Adult video game · First-person shooter · Nonviolent
video game · Survival horror

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There's no such thing as a copyrighted illusion. You are free to
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current Patent.

For copyrighted material you can be sued if you produce and distribute
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hey i was thinking a few days agoif the new masked magician on my net
ork tv z 2008 13 all new cool out side inside stage ilusion ideas of
cool science ideas is going to show soul passage the measure of man
interlude and orgami watch as the magic un folds
ps dc line in his cool tour book
program
you know thinking about the masked magician where is david
copperfield?
IS HE the new maskedmagician in tv under valentbinos cool idea spder
man mask idea every kid i know wants the spider man masked magician
mask even for halloweeen too and even my nieaces andnefus and children
at my church want a masked magician spiderman mask:)
maybe david copperfield stage illusionist says if you can not beat
them join them:)
or johnathen pendragon, rick tomas, penn and teller, valintino,
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even cool misionarries like the masked magician wow cool:)
i let them know that anyone is able to do these props its the
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hmm is it david seth kotkin copperfield. the pendragons, kevin james,
rick tomas, steve ire wireck, herbert l becker, franz harary
ps bob scofield thanks mitchleary micguyver scienctist guy is
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all are on the cool chbby side
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wow cool my weight is 165lbs
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Sorry Billy, I'm not the Amazing Jonathan, but I sure love the guy.
I'm
not sure how much longer he's going to be around. In an article in
Magic a couple months ago he said he's been diagnosed with heart
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That'll suck. Amazing Jonathan is awesome. Soo much entertainment and
hardly 2 tricks done the whole show.

His website has some jokes that are so offensive that you literally
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Very nice sketch! Thanks,,,what do you use ...microsoft paint??

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honestly, i cant stand to watch this show. Not only is the
presentation bad, but the narrators "jokes" aren't funny but really
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the reu run tonight is the one where he does ec walking through china
wall idea but thru train bins idea
ps they dont say dc look like cool double is crisstapher heart
he tours with dc and invented his idea of zombie ball with lady arm
hand idea and his music note paper idea news paper tear and back to
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many masked magicians with masked on and with out masked on show how
cool stage illusion ideas work franz haarary
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way he moves in his rutines doing stage illusions lanceburton says he
learned alot tricks from the masked magician he not mad at val at all
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It says tonights show is a repeat.

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QUOTE (1lpoock @ Oct 27 2008, 07:47 PM)
It says tonights show is a repeat.

Yes it was the first one.

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QUOTE (1lpoock @ Oct 27 2008, 07:47 PM)
It says tonights show is a repeat.

Maybe there aren't going to be 13 shows after all??

that is a lot of major illusions to supposedly reveal-hope it was just
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QUOTE (pae @ Oct 28 2008, 04:46 AM)
QUOTE (1lpoock @ Oct 27 2008, 07:47 PM)
It says tonights show is a repeat.

Maybe there aren't going to be 13 shows after all??

that is a lot of major illusions to supposedly reveal-hope it was just
a lot of hype and he stops now

The shows will go until the end (13 parts). I explain the whole things
to you what happened. The show supposed to start on the October 7th
and they wanted to show on October 2nd a sneak preview but accidently
they showed a full show. So they showed the yesterday part on October
2nd.
I heard it happened with other series either and people didn't know
what was going on.
Anyway next week and the following weeks you will see new shows.

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QUOTE (1lpoock @ Oct 22 2008, 10:08 PM)
Very nice sketch! Thanks,,,what do you use ...microsoft paint??

yeah, I use paint...
once in a while I use autocad and convert it...
for this one, I hand drew a sketch, scanned it, then fixed it up with
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magicofCurtis

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1295 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 1:30pm

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Greetings,

Today, I spoke to a costume designer who said he worked on the set for
the MASKED magician... They are filming new programs....

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jimhlou

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1013 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 2:01pm

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Is it Valentino or some other clown?

Jim
magicofCurtis

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1295 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 2:26pm

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It is Valentino..... The costume designer was trying to recall the
name. He Siad Val... so I am assuming it is Valentino.

He said it was very demanding and he did not enjoy working with the
production.

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842 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 2:32pm

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Wonderful .. I thought this show was going to be buried on some
unknown cable station, but it will be on one of the other networks.

Best thing to do is just ignore it all ..

Steve
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533 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 2:39pm

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Who cares who is it? Curtis pay the costume designer or the janitor to
find the tapes and destroy them. Everyone will love him.
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3005 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 3:08pm

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No worries. It is airing on MyNetwork TV. I think YouTube has a higher
viewership than this dying network.

Even though there are thirteen episodes planned and the supposed
revelation of 120 illusions, tricks and feats. I seriously doubt it
will have any effect on our trade and reveal anything that hasn't
already benn done so by YouTube or inept performers.

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180 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 6:17pm

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Yes but all these will appear on youtube later
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A very good friend of mine is the wife of the lead elephant trainer
for Ringling bro.,And they were hired to do a elephant vanish! She
sent me some pics but they didn't really show anything!

Thanks,
Kyle

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541 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 8:53pm

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The maked magician he show the original illusions of rip offs?
Any body know?

Paulo
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1013 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 9:13pm

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He does a kind of "mixed bag of tricks", some which are very, very
old. As an example, he did Metamorphosis, and shows the "secret" as
sliding the whole top of the trunk off, and them back on.

Some of his stuff is right-on, other illusions are very outdated. I
don't know what's in his new show, but obviously money is more
important to him than scruples. They need to put him in an ungimmicked
head chopper.

Jim
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374 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 10:40pm

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I have no problem with him exposing how Criss Angel, David Blaine, and
yes even Darren Brown do all the "TV only" tricks. That would be a
show I endorse.
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Here's a link on Entertainment Tonight:

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874 Posts Posted: Aug 28, 2008 11:53pm

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He has a Assistants Revenge from Snap Illusions. Doesn't surprise me
at all.

I actually spoke with Tawni at their customer service and they
wouldn't reply to my emails after I made a comparison between exposure
and knock offs.

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981 Posts Posted: Aug 29, 2008 1:28am

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This is sad news.... Thanks for the heads up...

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Our organizations must to do something not only to colect the money
SoCalPro

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1223 Posts Posted: Aug 29, 2008 2:28am

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Why the mask? He already took it off once. He must be out of $$$ to
want to do more.
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I wonder who exposed the most so far, Valentino or Criss Angel?

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For sure valentino
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Anybody have a heads-up on what's on these shows? I ask specifically
because I have a big run opening in October and that's exactly when
these "specials" are supposed to air. I do not want to do the DeKolta
Chair if this moron just revealed it the night before! I know we've
had to weather this before, but this time it has a very direct impact
for me (and countless others, I'm sure) because of the timing. Anyone
know? Thanks!

Phil
magicofCurtis

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Do not give the show any ratings. DO NOT WATCH IT. Wait until it is on
youtube or someone taped it....

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On 2008-08-29 03:37, magicofCurtis wrote:
Do not give the show any ratings. DO NOT WATCH IT. Wait until it is on
youtube or someone taped it....

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One can only give a given show ratings if they have that special box
installed on their TV's.
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148 Posts Posted: Aug 29, 2008 5:26am

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The producers of Masked magicians gave false identity, when they
ordered an Assistant Revenge to snap illusions ? If not, it is a shame
to have sold it. I think , that the builder should ask before building
something. I remember a great builder, few years ago, who put Masked
magician in the list of his customers ! The few money won for 1 prop,
but no money in the future for this illusion for a long time : it is a
bad calculation for Snap.

if snap knew that it was the production of the masked magician, it is
inaceptable. But I suppose that it is hard to know who is behind
sometimes...
zaubern

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277 Posts Posted: Aug 29, 2008 6:03am

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Looks like they had a Twister an a Dakolta Chair...not really
"outdated illusions"
I'm not sure if these were just for the teaser or are actually going
to get tipped.

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148 Posts Posted: Aug 29, 2008 6:51am

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WHAT A WORLD...
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I think I saw palanquin too...to the left of the screen at the end.
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25 Posts Posted: Aug 29, 2008 10:39am

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A few weeks ago the illusions were on sale at magicauction!
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On 2008-08-29 03:15, freefallillusion1 wrote:
Anybody have a heads-up on what's on these shows? I ask specifically
because I have a big run opening in October and that's exactly when
these "specials" are supposed to air. I do not want to do the DeKolta
Chair if this moron just revealed it the night before! I know we've
had to weather this before, but this time it has a very direct impact
for me (and countless others, I'm sure) because of the timing. Anyone
know? Thanks!

Phil

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I really wouldn't pull a trick just because it was exposed on a TV
show. Maybe this made sense thirty years ago when there were only
three networks so if a show like this ran you'd have a good chance of
at least a third of your audience having seen the program. But in
todays content filled airwaves it is not so much of a problem. The
first (and highest rated) MM program garnered 14 million viewers (if I
remember right). This meant that out of an audience of one hundred
people you might have two people in attendance who actually saw the
program.
With this program being on MyNetwork it won't even get a million
viewers so the odds of having anyone in the audience who actually saw
this program are slim.
So go ahead and do your show as planned unless of course it is for the
MyNetworks holiday party.

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On 2008-08-29 03:37, magicofCurtis wrote:
Do not give the show any ratings. DO NOT WATCH IT. Wait until it is on
youtube or someone taped it....

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Unless you've got a Nielson box in your house you can watch the show
without affecting it's ratings as they have no idea whose tuned in to
what show at any given time with out one of the affoe said mentioned
devices attached to your television.

However YouTube videos are monitored so by watching them you show the
producers that someone is interested in their content.

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541 Posts Posted: Aug 29, 2008 10:53am

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Valentino is not the only who make the revelation of magic, youtube
have a lot of expose magic.

Paulo
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Paulo, Valentino can be watch on TV. Lay people watch more TV than
anything else. All exposure on TV is more dangerous, cause on Youtube
you need search. On TV, you are falling on a programm, and you watch
it.
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