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a magic trick with a newspaper and ESP

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BNDVDSN

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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My psychology teacher did a magic two weeks ago in class. First, she handed a
sealed envelope to one person in the class. Then, she got a newspaper and moved
scissors up the newspaper until I told her stop. When i did, she cut the
newspaper and let the bottom of it fall to the ground. When I picked up the
paper, and read the top line, the piece of paper in the sealed envelope said
the same thing as the newspaper. SHe claims to have ESP, and won't tell us how
she did it, and its been seriously bothering me for two weeks, so any help as
to how she did it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Ben
Davidson

Dave V

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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I can't tell you HOW she did it, but believe me. She doesn't have ESP.

It's a standard trick from one of many basic books.

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JoeJoeInMB

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Sep 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/1/98
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I don't know how she did it, but it doesn't sound like ESP... it sounds like a
trick to me.


JoeJoe
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Emmanuel Marin

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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bnd...@aol.com (BNDVDSN) wrote:
>My psychology teacher did a magic two weeks ago in class. First, she handed a
>sealed envelope to one person in the class. Then, she got a newspaper and moved
>scissors up the newspaper until I told her stop. When i did, she cut the
>newspaper and let the bottom of it fall to the ground.

This is one of these tricks I guessed without "buying" the solution
somewhere, so I guess I can reveal something here. Let's say,
for example, a hint like : could you see the text ?


Emmanuel Marin, Paris.

dcj...@yahoo.com

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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In article <199808312148...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,

bnd...@aol.com (BNDVDSN) wrote:
> My psychology teacher did a magic two weeks ago in class. First, she handed a
> sealed envelope to one person in the class. Then, she got a newspaper and
moved
> scissors up the newspaper until I told her stop. When i did, she cut the
> newspaper and let the bottom of it fall to the ground. When I picked up the
> paper, and read the top line, the piece of paper in the sealed envelope said
> the same thing as the newspaper. SHe claims to have ESP, and won't tell us how
> she did it, and its been seriously bothering me for two weeks, so any help as
> to how she did it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Ben
> Davidson

It uses the same principle as David Blaine's card guess trick.

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Magic JR

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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ok I would just like to add that there is no such thing as Extra Sensory
Perseption its all fake there is no way to tell the future. If you would like a
link to my web site which exposes these fakes just E-mail me at Mag...@aol.com
Jared

magicd

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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I thought it was smoke and mirrors.
It couldn't have been esp

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EvM

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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NOOOOO! That CANT BEEEEEE! Next you'll us SANTA is not real!!!!

EDMAGIC99

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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> so any help as
>> to how she did it would be greatly appreciated.

this trick is in "self working mental magic" by Karl Fulves
a dover publication. You can find it or order it at most regular book stores

Ed

Tilman Hausherr

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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In <199808312148...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, bnd...@aol.com
(BNDVDSN) wrote:

>My psychology teacher did a magic two weeks ago in class. First, she handed a
>sealed envelope to one person in the class. Then, she got a newspaper and moved

Was it a real newspaper? Maybe chosen from the audience, or at least
that could be read?

>scissors up the newspaper until I told her stop. When i did, she cut the
>newspaper and let the bottom of it fall to the ground. When I picked up the
>paper, and read the top line, the piece of paper in the sealed envelope said
>the same thing as the newspaper.

I think it was a prepaped newspaper... the cut part was already
prepared, and just has to be dropped. (You didn't check that it "fit"
into the rest, didn't you?

Tilman


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Danny White

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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IT WAS A REAL NEWSPAPER. I HAVE DONE THIS EFFECT FOR YEARS, If you knew how
it was done, you'd feel like an idiot. really. it is very simple as most of
those who know it will attest.

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Eric A. Fogal

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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It is also demonstrated on a tape from International Magician's Society :
Fax: 516-333-6328
http://cosmoweb.net/~paulj/ims.htm


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Tilman Hausherr

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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In <01bdd784$92068e40$c903430c@white-bag>, "Danny White"
<webm...@whitebag.com> wrote:

>IT WAS A REAL NEWSPAPER. I HAVE DONE THIS EFFECT FOR YEARS, If you knew how
>it was done, you'd feel like an idiot. really. it is very simple as most of
>those who know it will attest.

I might say how it is done if I'd see it on TV. Another question is also
who opens the envelope. Besides, I already told that the question is not
whether the newspaper is real, but whether the "cut" part is real.

A very weak version would be to write down something from the paper, and
then to cut exactly to the part you wrote down. For this, one needs to
hold the paper in a way that people can't see how far you really are.

If you feel superior by "knowing" and bragging about it - fine. I assume
this is one of the rewards of your skills.

Danny White

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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i have promised myself not to get into any flame wars, i find it childish,
that being said, i was not trying to be superior, merely stating the fact
that this is not "esp" per se. i did not state my method as it breaks the
rules around here to pub in a public forum. who opens the envelope in
inconsequential, and you dont 'cut at where you wrote' the spec can tell
you to stop any where. if your "prediction" was three fourths down the
page and they said stop at the top half, i think they could see your
gigging them. Im perfectly willing to share via e mail, just not on this
open group, so stop being contentious and lets try to learn from each
other.
greg

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Tilman Hausherr

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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In <01bdd833$8c3a3ac0$b623430c@white-bag>, "Danny White"
<webm...@whitebag.com> wrote:

>i did not state my method as it breaks the
>rules around here to pub in a public forum.

alt.magic.secrets was created to share the secrets.

>Im perfectly willing to share via e mail

Well, send it to me.

Emmanuel Marin

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Sep 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/4/98
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til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman Hausherr) wrote:
>Was it a real newspaper? Maybe chosen from the audience, or at least
>that could be read?

This was done in the context of a classroom. It was a real newspaper,
but the teacher brought it with her. The "preparation" is minimal.

>I think it was a prepaped newspaper... the cut part was already
>prepared, and just has to be dropped. (You didn't check that it "fit"
>into the rest, didn't you?

The cut fits well. It has really been cut where it was cut.

Com'on, this is one trick I guessed quite easily (and that's why
I do not hesitate to write about it, while I'll never about a trick
I couldn't guess 100% on my own), and I gave the key hint :-)

Two more hints : you'd better not have a photograph on the column.
And it's easier to do in front of thirty persons than in front of one
or two. The teacher won't do the trick again to one pupil alone.

Emmanuel Marin, Paris.

MOJO JUJU

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Sep 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/5/98
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this paper was not pre cut.
this forum is not to publically expose secrets, not imho, you can but i wont.
and i would have emailed you the effect, but somebody has already posted the
method.

im amazed at how someone thinks they have the answer and they are way wrong,
which brings me to the point that i heard michael ammar say, "whether a
spectator knows how a tricks done or just thinks they do, the end result is the
same"

Julian E.

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Sep 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/5/98
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Maybe your teacher meant she had ESPN...... I have ESPN too......
hehe


Ecilop2946

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Sep 9, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/9/98
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You know its not ettiquette for a magician to give away secrets.
Your teacher however does not have ESP as I and many other magicians have
performed this trick for years. In fact my 8 year old daughter performs the
same trick.
Ben a wee pointer.
The newspaper was upside down. You read the top line no matter where the
teacher stopped and cut the paper


Darkfrog

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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Don't you use the word "please" in your country?

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Tilman Hausherr

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Sep 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/11/98
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In <6tapk7$2ep$1...@camel0.mindspring.com>, "Darkfrog"
<dark...@nospam.mindspring.com> wrote:

>Don't you use the word "please" in your country?

No, we do not.

IKamphues

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Sep 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/13/98
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Im Artikel <36285292....@news.snafu.de>, til...@berlin.snafu.de (Tilman
Hausherr) schreibt:

>>Don't you use the word "please" in your country?
>
>No, we do not.

Tilman, would you please fuck yourself??

(See? We do use this word)

ika

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