Re: More BS from DarkSleightZ...
Eric Haddix
> This is DarkSleightZ vanishing wine bottle trick. And FYI, after my
> comments about how he is using video editing software and not actual
> magician's tricks, he has banned me from posting comments on any of
> his videos. Seems I hit a little too close to the truth.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlhQc3nWcWE
>
> DarkSleightZ was on the dean's list at the Chris Angel school of magic
> and camera tricks. This is one guy you will never see at a magic
> convention.
>
> -Leary-
No, you can see where the bottle goes if you watch that one carefully.
The wine bottle was the one that let me know it was NOT an edit. Look at
his shirt on the bottom left of the screen and you'll see an anomaly or
two in how the shirt hugs his body. I'm not 100% certain of the exact
method but I have a good idea of what's being done and I'm certain he
has some form of servante or shell in his pants..
MarloFan
wrote:
I don't know anything about bottle vanishes, but I *do* know about
card sleights.. check out this vid from DarksleightZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRUQU7-7Bk0&feature=relmfu
It's purporting to be an Erdnase colour change - if that's an Erdnase,
I'll eat every deck of cards that I own...I flatter myself that I can
do a very nice E.C.C. but even cranking the thing up to top speed
doesn't look like this, PLUS if it was an Erdnase, I'd expect the card
underneath to be the Ace of Spades, not the two...
It screams card flap to me, and ignore all the spinning, you can spin
a flap card just fine without it showing... also theway he lifts it
off from the deck at the end looks hghly suspect.
The more I see of his stuff, the more I'm convinced that what he's
doing isn't what he *says* he's doing (which for the record I'm fine
with btw, that's lesson 101 in fooling people). I think it's more a
case of he wants to build a reputation for himself, by having laymen/
magicians alike not being able to fathom his methods...
MarloFan
Eric Haddix
> It screams card flap to me, and ignore all the spinning, you can spin
> a flap card just fine without it showing... also theway he lifts it
> off from the deck at the end looks hghly suspect.
I just got done running that video through my editor..it is NOT edited
that I can see. He'd need at least a million takes to get that shot to
look unedited(light, shadows, clothing, elbows, etc. all match)
It COULD be a card flap but he dribbles the deck so it couldn't be a
latex automatic-type flap card or else it'd switch while he was doing
so. His wrist also seems a bit too close to the deck at the moment of
truth to allow most flaps to do their work.
That said, there is another possibility, maybe he's using a pull to put
the card in his hand(though I doubt this is the answer, it is more viable).
Chances are(and this has been my suspicion in all of his videos so far)
he has what is essentially a topit built into his shirt, kinda like TKO
only this one is much more impressive(I figured TKO out the first time I
saw it but I was already hip to Suspended Dimension by Dan Sylvester at
that time). I say this because in almost every video, all the action
happens right next to a certain type of "crease" in his shirt. Look very
carefully in all those videos and you'll see what I mean(I hinted at
this each time). The lighting is such that it covers up any shadows,
etc. that might be left behind.
That said, he does a wrist kill there at the end which makes me wonder
what the hell is going on(and that's pretty much his intended effect for
us magicians so we can put that down to either being a part of the
method or part of the misdirection).
bill page
wrote:
ok cool eric cool:)
Eric Haddix
> On Jun 25, 1:06 pm, Eric Haddix<burn...@REMOVEALLCAPSsTtDdIiOOOo.com>
> remotely like a bulge anywhere. This guy isn't skinny and his pants
> are fairly tight fitting. Even a rubber bottle would create some kind
> of noticeable bulge in his clothing. I challenge anyone to duplicate
> this, if you marketed it you wouldn't have to work for about two
> years, every magician would starve if need be just to buy the method.
>
> Before DarkSleightZ told me to get bent I challenged him to provide
> tutorials on this trick and a couple others. My posts were removed.
>
>
> -Leary-
Freeze-frame when he's turned directly to the side(after he's already
made the bottle vanish) and you'll notice that his ass and legs are much
larger than the rest of his body would be(I rode a bicycle 30-100 miles
per day every day for years, can lift a car with my leg strength alone
and yet my legs were never that large compared to my body).
You'll also notice he's shifting his hips back and leaning the top of
his body forward to remove the view of "the shelf" he's got built inside
his pants/shirt. You can clearly see the shirt resting on the pants from
this view and the creases, etc. reveal that there is a gap there that
he's hiding. And you're probably looking at the leg that's hiding the
bottle since in the front of the pants you can see what appears to be
the edge of a shell or the like..
bill page
wrote:
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What did David Copperfield do to make Statue of Liberty dissapear?
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by Scooter on December 2nd, 2007
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I think it's still there.
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by Rude Bear Ready for Winter on December 2nd, 2007
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SPOILER ALERT>>>>>> THE STRAIGHT DOPE>>>>>>
The platform the witnesses, the cameras and everything was on
rotated. In it's original position, the statue was framed by two
towers. He hung a cloth between the two towers, and when it fell the
statue was gone... What happened was the platform rotated a few
degrees so the statue was hidden behind one of the towers... Fake
flood lights searching the "empty space" where the statue had been...
fake helicopters... a fake ring of lights circling the statue...
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by slothmister on December 2nd, 2007
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Mirrors, it was an optical illusion.
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by bill page on November 1st, 2009
bill page
The Magic of David Copperfield
Effect : David Copperfield makes the statue of liberty disappear.
Secret:
The audience can see the statue of liberty through the pillars.
The curtain then comes up to block the audiences view. The live
audience is on a secret swiveling platform that rotated slowly to the
side of the statue. The statue of liberty lights are turned off, the
blip on the radar is part of a video animation.
The curtain is then lowered, the audience and the viewers watching
on T.V see that the statue has disappeared but all they are looking at
is a duplicate set of lights that is situated right next to the real
statue of liberty. The lights on the two towers towers are there to
night blind the audience for a few minutes to make it hard too see the
statue of liberty.
The curtain is then raised up the audience is rotated round again
to face the statue of liberty the curtain is dropped and the statue
has reappeared.
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by bill page on November 1st, 2009
bill page
black purple lights in grown of stue of librty perfect for black
lightine ideas
dead black against dead black is absent of shadows with black
lights
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by bill page on November 1st, 2009
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plus
http://www.youtube.com/user/alhastings
http://www.youtube.com/user/jelbel300
http://www.youtube.com/user/billpage
http://www.tvmagicguide.com
look up trickbusters copperfield
lots of cool stage illusion idea secrets revealed on youtube by
trickbusters folks even more deatil of statue of liberty vanish
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by bill page on March 19th, 2009
bill page
sameinfo a gigantic motorzed lazy susan turn table
like a recod player idea plus notice the radararea black ring area
on radar yousee the bright lights moving in the other direction like
how a sundail works
type in google and youtube searyh engines
trickbusters copperfield
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by bill page on November 1st, 2009
bill page
yep all is correct
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by Sharona Life is a Tale Told by an Idiot on November 1st, 2009
Sharona Life is a Tale Told by an Idiot
He is really Jesus.
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by Shawn B on January 6th, 2008
Shawn B
First, "Copperfield had a setup of two towers on a stage,
supporting an arch to hold the huge curtain that would be used to
conceal the statue." Those viewing the trick, both live and on TV, saw
the statue through this arch.
After the curtain closed and while Mr. Copperfield addressed the
audience, the stage was apparently rotating very slowly on a lazy
Susan type turntable. When the curtain opened, it seemed the statue
had disappeared, but in reality, the audience's view was blocked by
one of the columns. The article also mentions that Copperfield used
very bright lights to "nightblind" the audience. Those magicians are a
tricky lot, eh?
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John Black
@f39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, mitchel...@yahoo.com says...
> This is DarkSleightZ vanishing wine bottle trick. And FYI, after my
> comments about how he is using video editing software and not actual
> magician's tricks, he has banned me from posting comments on any of
> his videos. Seems I hit a little too close to the truth.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlhQc3nWcWE
>
> DarkSleightZ was on the dean's list at the Chris Angel school of magic
> and camera tricks. This is one guy you will never see at a magic
> convention.
I don't really see anything that screams edits to me. Are you just basing
this on not being able to discern his methods? No matter how much I learn
in life, I always assume I have more to learn. No matter how much I know, I
always assume there is much I don't. So at this point, I am still happy to
give him the benefit of the doubt.
John Black
mitchell_leary
>
> - Show quoted text -
I really hope your right Eric, because almost every one of
DarkSleightZ videos looks suspicious to me. It looks to me like he's
dropping the bottle out of the cloth onto a soft surface, like a
pillow in a cloths basket (out of frame), then editing out that one or
two frames where the bottle was. There's a new video editing program
called Diminished Reality out of Germany. If I'm not mistaken our
little friend DarkSleightZ is a kraut. I'm not sure if it's available
in the US but from what I've seen it will revolutionize these type of
effects.
Ray Haddad
<mitchel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>There's a new video editing program
>called Diminished Reality out of Germany.
Mitch, it will be introduced in October. In the meanwhile, drool a bit
over this:
http://www.telepresenceoptions.com/2010/10/diminished_reality_software_re/
Will you be removing the extraterrestrials from your backyard movies
so they don't freak people out?
--
Ray
mitchell_leary
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:30:34 -0700 (PDT), mitchell_leary
>
> >There's a new video editing program
> >called Diminished Reality out of Germany.
>
> Mitch, it will be introduced in October. In the meanwhile, drool a bit
> over this:
>
>
> Will you be removing the extraterrestrials from your backyard movies
> so they don't freak people out?
> --
> Ray
Lol, thanks Ray. I just wish I could edit them out of my memories.
Ray Haddad
<mitchel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Jun 29, 1:50 pm, Ray Haddad <r...@perthmagic.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 10:30:34 -0700 (PDT), mitchell_leary
>>
>> <mitchell_le...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >There's a new video editing program
>> >called Diminished Reality out of Germany.
>>
>> Mitch, it will be introduced in October. In the meanwhile, drool a bit
>> over this:
>>
>> http://www.telepresenceoptions.com/2010/10/diminished_reality_softwar...
>>
>> Will you be removing the extraterrestrials from your backyard movies
>> so they don't freak people out?
>
>Lol, thanks Ray. I just wish I could edit them out of my memories.
I've never laughed so hard at a South Park episode as I did the one
where Eric gets abducted. That probe was hilarious. Did yours hurt?
We're going to be passing through most of America starting in November
this year. Is your e-mail still the same? As soon as we get phone SIMS
over there, I'll shoot you my numbers.
--
Ray