Flying Trick (David Copperfield}
Bob K
On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 12:22:08 -0400, Jim Briggs
<"u10...@snet.net"@snet.net> wrote:
>A few months ago I posted how David Copperfield did a flying trick.
>Some jerk on who claims to be a magician said my explanation was wrong
>and impossible. I finely looked up the reference on the net. I found
>an article written by A.K. Giem and J.C. Maam called Molecular Magnetism
>and Levitation on the Nijmegen Amsterdam Magnet Laboratory home page. Go
>look for your self at http://www-hfml.sci.kun.nl/levitate.html or do
>what I did look up "levitate megnetic" using INFOSEEK to find out how a
>magician or any one else can fly. One thing please in the future don’t
>believe anything that moron has to say.
Absolutely- don't believe anything that moron (whoever it is) has to
say. All magicians use magnetism for levitation tricks. That's how
Copperfield flew across the Grand Canyon and it's also how he does the
Flying illusion on stage (the same method is also used by the
Pendragons and Rick Thomas for their levitations- which explains why
there's currently a world-wide shortage of large magnets).
Bob K
Jim Briggs
A few months ago I posted how David Copperfield did a flying trick.
Some jerk on who claims to be a magician said my explanation was wrong
and impossible. I finely looked up the reference on the net. I found
an article written by A.K. Giem and J.C. Maam called Molecular Magnetism
and Levitation on the Nijmegen Amsterdam Magnet Laboratory home page. Go
look for your self at http://www-hfml.sci.kun.nl/levitate.html or do
what I did look up "levitate megnetic" using INFOSEEK to find out how a
magician or any one else can fly. One thing please in the future don’t
believe anything that moron has to say.
JIMBO
Below is a breif quotation from the article.
"Molecular Magnetism and Levitation."
"(The Frog Which Learned to Fly)"
"Seeing is believing:A little frog (alive !) and a water ball levitate
inside a Ø40mm vertical bore of a Bitter solenoid in a magnetic
field of about 16 Tesla at the The image of a high-temperature
superconductor levitating above a magnet in fog of liquid nitrogen can
hardly surprise anyone these days – it has become common knowledge that
superconductors are ideal diamagnetics and magnetic field must expel
them. On the other hand,the enclosed photographs of water and a frog
hovering inside a magnet (not on board a spacecraft) are somewhat
counterintuitive and will probably take many people (even physicists)by
surprise. In fact, it is possible to levitate magnetically every
material and every living creature on the earth due to the always
present molecular magnetism. The molecular magnetism is very weak
millions times weaker than ferromagnetism) and usually remains unnoticed
in everyday life, thereby producing the wrong impression that materials
around us are mainly nonmagnetic. But they are all magnetic. It is just
that magnetic fields required to levitate all these "nonmagnetic"
materials have to be approximately 100 times larger ..."
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You can also find out more about superconducting levation in Physics
World April 97
page 28.
Jason Harbaugh
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Jim Briggs wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>A few months ago I posted how David Copperfield did
a flying trick.
<BR>Some jerk on who claims to be a magician said my explanation was wrong
<BR>and impossible. I finely looked up the reference on the net.
I found
<BR>an article written by A.K. Giem and J.C. Maam called Molecular Magnetism
<BR>and Levitation on the Nijmegen Amsterdam Magnet Laboratory home page. Go
<BR>look for your self at <A HREF="http://www-hfml.sci.kun.nl/levitate.html">http://www-hfml.sci.kun.nl/levitate.html</A>
or do
<BR>what I did look up "levitate megnetic" using INFOSEEK to find
out how a
<BR>magician or any one else can fly. One thing please in the future
don’t
<BR>believe anything that moron has to say.
<BR>
<BR>JIMBO
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Ok...Levitating a frog is one thing and yes that is pretty cool
but Copperfield has been flying for sometime now and I don't think he is
a Master Physicist. So I would still believe that "moron"
when he says that DC didn't fly using magnets, but that doesn't mean that
we have to always believe the morons out there but do give us a chance
because we know what we are talking about.
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<BR>Jason
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LTek1
Bob K. Writes:
>Absolutely- don't believe anything that moron (whoever it is) has to
>say. All magicians use magnetism for levitation tricks. That's how
>Copperfield flew across the Grand Canyon and it's also how he does the
>Flying illusion on stage (the same method is also used by the
>Pendragons and Rick Thomas for their levitations- which explains why
>there's currently a world-wide shortage of large magnets).
>
>Bob K
Sorry Bob but you are making a mistake. DC and Pendragons and all do NOT
do their illusions with magnets. They are ELECTRMAGNETS, very powerfull
ones. And for those who think DC was flying before they could
electro-magnet things into the air, just remember that DC has a cool Time
Machine. He bought it from Orson Wells. (Play along Bob.)
Lee D.
Jim Briggs
He bought the trick he didn't invent it. If you looked the physics of
what I am talking about there are no regular magnets involved. Electrons
are on the outside of atoms. Electrons have a negitive charge with a
strong magnetic charge you can make anything fly. If you use regular
magnets the magnet will flip and become attractive. That's why a
regular magnet will not work.
Why not learn about the effect before you comment? The problem last time
is the moron didn't know what I was talking about and he was too lazy or
stupid to do research.
JIMBO
TricRic
What did you all think of Rick Thomas' levitation on worlds Greatest Magic
II? Just curiouse.
Oli Homer
I cannot believe that people are still discussing this trick since the
method used by DC has been general knowledge for over a year. To end all
the theories about magnets and superconductors, here is how he did it.
HE USED WIRES!
One attached just above the elbow on each arm and a pair on his hips. They
cannot be seen as they are made of a very fine metal with extremely high
tensile strength and also he uses a very complicated lighting system.
WHAT ABOUT THE HOOPS?
Not one hoop actually passed over him - if you can get a copy of a
recording of the illusion, freeze frame it. The first two hoops approach
from opposite sides and are brought a small distance over his body before
they are quickly spun, rotating the hoops underneath DC. The fact that they
move so quickly and your eyes cannot watch both hoops together, creates the
illusion that they pass over him.
The same principle is used for the second pair of joined hoops, it comes
towards DC whilst being spun and it just rolls 'around' the wire. Watch the
video and draw a line from DC to the top of your picture - the hoop will
never cross it.
BUT HE FLEW IN A BOX!
Watch his assistants put the lid on - it is carefully slid on lengthways
from one side, passing between the wires. If you look carefully, you will
notice that whilst the lid is very long, it is not wide enough to cover the
hole in the plexiglass box. Therefore, there is a small slit on either side
of the lid for the wires to pass through - enough for him to fly.
These are the facts and they cannot be disputed or disproved. Of course you
could believe that David Copperfield has beaten the scientists at their own
game and created the most powerful magnetic field ever seen.
Next time you are tempted to post science fiction to this group, why don't
you use a bit of intelligence and lateral thinking first.
Jason Harbaugh
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Jim Briggs wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>He bought the trick he didn't invent it. If you looked
the physics of
<BR>what I am talking about there are no regular magnets involved. Electrons
<BR>are on the outside of atoms. Electrons have a negitive charge with a
<BR>strong magnetic charge you can make anything fly. If you use regular
<BR>magnets the magnet will flip and become attractive. That's why a
<BR>regular magnet will not work.
<BR>
<BR>Why not learn about the effect before you comment? The problem last time
<BR>is the moron didn't know what I was talking about and he was too lazy or
<BR>stupid to do research.
<BR>
<BR>JIMBO
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Ok....I repect your opinion and everything, and I did do the research.
I checked out the page with the floating frogs and I think that is great.
But lets be real here. They are JUST starting out with frogs.
No one has attemped it on humans(at least not to my knowledge) and if they
did then that would be front page news right there. These scientists
aren't magicians and they would want their new invention to be famous and
so they can make a quick couple million and retire. Yes this
new technology is happening but it isn't out there yet. And when
it is...believe me we will know...EVERYONE will know.
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<BR> Jason
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LTek1
Oli Homer writes:
>I cannot believe that people are still discussing this trick since the
>method used by DC has been general knowledge for over a year. To end all
>the theories about magnets and superconductors, here is how he did it.
<<<SNIP>>>
If you are referring to the things most recently posted by Bob abnd
myself, we were joking. Calm down.
Lee
Jeff
500 mph!!
Magic WSM
Yes Oli your 100 percent correct but if this guy (was his name Jimbo or
Dumbo?) want's to believe in magnets then let him. Also I have some swamp
land I would like to sell him. Guess P.T. Barnum was right!
Geoff Williams
In article <19970425043...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
magi...@aol.com (Magic WSM) wrote:
FYI: the "sucker born every minute", to which you are probably referring,
has long been attributed to Mr. Barnum but that is an historical error. As
far as history is concerned, he never said it.
Just thought you'd want to know.
--
Geoff Williams
geoff_w...@bigfoot.com
Mick
When he flew outside; was he lifted by a crane or a helicopter? The
people outside with him didn't seem to see anything up above.
Mick
On 22 Apr 1997 19:47:44 +0100, an...@vossnet.co.uk(Oli Homer) wrote:
"I cannot believe that people are still discussing this trick since
the
"method used by DC has been general knowledge for over a year. To end
all
"the theories about magnets and superconductors, here is how he did
it.
"
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Bob K
>Oli Homer writes:
>
>>I cannot believe that people are still discussing this trick since the
>>method used by DC has been general knowledge for over a year.
> <<<SNIP>>>
I was only a Warrant Officer- they didn't tell us everything the
Generals knew.
Bob K
Bob K
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997 04:09:20 GMT, robin...@juno.comREMOVE (Mick)
wrote:
>
>When he flew outside; was he lifted by a crane or a helicopter? The
>people outside with him didn't seem to see anything up above.
They were all blind (Copperfield is a big supporter of a 'Hire the
Handicapped' programs).
Bob K
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Manuel Wolff
On Sat, 26 Apr 1997, Mick wrote:
> When he flew outside; was he lifted by a crane or a helicopter? The
> people outside with him didn't seem to see anything up above.
>
He never flew outside. It was only a cheap "Blue Box" television trick.
cioa,
M
Noam Luft
If any of you have ever been to a Copperfield show, you would notice
that when you leave, there are a LOT more people leaving then there were
when he flew outside. They were all plants and he used a crane. That's
my theory.
/\/oam
Bob K
False- twice. Blue 'screen' television tricks are not cheap.
He did fly outside.
Bob K
AirFX
Just look at how un-pendulum like his movement is-it's definitely the
green screen thing. Computer pasted onto the background of people acting
like they're seeing him fly outside.
Jonathan
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