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Bob M
Jul 4, 2012, 1:25:22 PM7/4/12
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OK, we know we all like to see Superman suffer. For different reasons,
it seems, but there’s that commonality. My question is for those of you
(myself included) who like to play Superman as being helpless. I admit I
don’t have a clear answer in my own head, but here are some questions I
ask myself a lot, and will now ask you:
• Is it erotic for you to play Superman (either in person or in your
head) when he gets into trouble (e.g., atomic rays or Kryptonite)?
Why do you think you have that reaction?
• Would you rather see a photo of yourself in Superman costume in a
heroic pose, or in a helpless situation? What is it about seeing
you/him helpless that turns you on?
• If you have the opportunity to role-play Superman vs. villain, would
you rather be Superman or the villain, and in that case who wins?
• If you play Superman and you lose, why is that your preference?
As some of you know, I am way over the hill as far as age goes, and I
remember seeing the ‘50s Superman shows when they were originally
broadcast. Even at that early age, I enjoyed seeing Superman (or the
Lone Ranger, or Zorro) be in trouble rather than be heroic. As time went
on, with every successive Superman on TV or movies, I had the same
reaction -- the best parts were when Superman is in peril.
Since I have had the resources to get my own costumes over the last 10
years or so, and basically create my own scenarios, I have much
preferred to put myself in the role of suffering Superman. Yeah, I do
heroic poses now and then, and occasionally I will play the villain to
someone’s else’s hero. But my preference is always to be on the
receiving end of Kryptonite, or atomic rays, etc.
For any and all of you guys who feel the same way, I’d love to hear your
thoughts as to why you think that’s the case.
Thanks for reading (if you made it this far).
Bob
it seems, but there’s that commonality. My question is for those of you
(myself included) who like to play Superman as being helpless. I admit I
don’t have a clear answer in my own head, but here are some questions I
ask myself a lot, and will now ask you:
• Is it erotic for you to play Superman (either in person or in your
head) when he gets into trouble (e.g., atomic rays or Kryptonite)?
Why do you think you have that reaction?
• Would you rather see a photo of yourself in Superman costume in a
heroic pose, or in a helpless situation? What is it about seeing
you/him helpless that turns you on?
• If you have the opportunity to role-play Superman vs. villain, would
you rather be Superman or the villain, and in that case who wins?
• If you play Superman and you lose, why is that your preference?
As some of you know, I am way over the hill as far as age goes, and I
remember seeing the ‘50s Superman shows when they were originally
broadcast. Even at that early age, I enjoyed seeing Superman (or the
Lone Ranger, or Zorro) be in trouble rather than be heroic. As time went
on, with every successive Superman on TV or movies, I had the same
reaction -- the best parts were when Superman is in peril.
Since I have had the resources to get my own costumes over the last 10
years or so, and basically create my own scenarios, I have much
preferred to put myself in the role of suffering Superman. Yeah, I do
heroic poses now and then, and occasionally I will play the villain to
someone’s else’s hero. But my preference is always to be on the
receiving end of Kryptonite, or atomic rays, etc.
For any and all of you guys who feel the same way, I’d love to hear your
thoughts as to why you think that’s the case.
Thanks for reading (if you made it this far).
Bob
Y Lee Coyote
Jul 8, 2012, 3:12:12 PM7/8/12
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 10:25:22 -0700 (PDT), Bob M <green...@yahoo.com>
Bob,
I say it's as simple as 'no pain, no gain'. With the super hero in peril,
then there is excitement and doubt about the outcome (at least the way of
the outcome). It's no fun to read about Superman swooping down, picking up
the bank robbers' car and putting it in the police department parking lot.
Put Lois in a cave with a hunk of Kryptonite in the entrance and now there
some excitement. Will he bore through the mountain from the far side, put
a carpet of lead in the entrance, use his x-ray vision to cause a collapse,
or ????
That's why live sports sells well. That's why that first read of a mystery
is the very best one.
Superman as top is simply yawn, yawn, yawn. What else could happen? Ditto
with Luke Skywalker. Toss some Kryptonite in and, well, that is very
interesting.
One example is at http://www.asstr.org/~YLeeCoyote/RobinsWinterVacation.htm
Y.
Valid return address is <YLeeCoyote (at) juno.com>
(Posting address is for the spammers)
See my stories at http://www.asstr.org/~YLeeCoyote/
P & E
wrote in <1341422722.119...@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>:
>OK, we know we all like to see Superman suffer. For different reasons,
>it seems, but there’s that commonality. My question is for those of you
>(myself included) who like to play Superman as being helpless. I admit I
>don’t have a clear answer in my own head, but here are some questions I
>ask myself a lot, and will now ask you:
<snip>
>OK, we know we all like to see Superman suffer. For different reasons,
>it seems, but there’s that commonality. My question is for those of you
>(myself included) who like to play Superman as being helpless. I admit I
>don’t have a clear answer in my own head, but here are some questions I
>ask myself a lot, and will now ask you:
Bob,
I say it's as simple as 'no pain, no gain'. With the super hero in peril,
then there is excitement and doubt about the outcome (at least the way of
the outcome). It's no fun to read about Superman swooping down, picking up
the bank robbers' car and putting it in the police department parking lot.
Put Lois in a cave with a hunk of Kryptonite in the entrance and now there
some excitement. Will he bore through the mountain from the far side, put
a carpet of lead in the entrance, use his x-ray vision to cause a collapse,
or ????
That's why live sports sells well. That's why that first read of a mystery
is the very best one.
Superman as top is simply yawn, yawn, yawn. What else could happen? Ditto
with Luke Skywalker. Toss some Kryptonite in and, well, that is very
interesting.
One example is at http://www.asstr.org/~YLeeCoyote/RobinsWinterVacation.htm
Y.
Valid return address is <YLeeCoyote (at) juno.com>
(Posting address is for the spammers)
See my stories at http://www.asstr.org/~YLeeCoyote/
P & E
Dan Fox
Jul 23, 2012, 9:26:15 AM7/23/12
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Great posting Bob:
I too agree that, among other things, this recent conversation is what
this group out to be about!
Bob, you know, but others may not, that I share your sentiments exactly.
I too choose always to be the hero who meets his downfall and suffers.
When that hero is Superman (or Superboy, hehe) it is transcendent.
Playing Superman/boy is extremely erotic. The suit, the powers. The
only explanation I have arrived at for why some of us prefer to be the
suffering hero (and why that turns us on) comes in two parts: 1) some of
us are submissive, and others dominant. A dominant man would be
conceptually unequipped to appreciate the hero facing his downfall. 2)
we are jealous of Superman and that envy causes us to enjoy his
suffering. By playing the hero ourselves and experiencing the
suffering, we can ensure that it is indeed the right amount of suffering
he deserves.
Superman is so extraordinarily powerful, and yet he his that ONE
weakness. When not exposed to it, he flies around all righteous and
powerful like the god he is. He gets to wear a preposterously tight
outfit to show off his perfect body. Nobody calls him out for it
because he is so powerful.
However, expose him to Kryptonite, or even watch him stumble upon it on
his own, and you see a changed man. His fearlessness not only
disappears, but is replaced by an almost indescribable sense of anxiety
and pain. He is about to experience suffering beyond what any of us can
comprehend.
Personally, I love being the suffering Man of Steel, writhing in pain,
while the villain taunts me. Once invulnerable, now the slightest kicks
inflict excruciating pain. Being teased and taunted and laughed at in
the process makes it so much better too. Finally the mighty hero in his
tights is brought down to size. In fact, I don't know what is better,
the long painful suffering, or that first instant when the Kryptonite is
exposed, and Superman realizes his powers are gone.
Whereas normally he would take any challenge head on without thinking,
now he cannot even fly away like a coward if he wanted to! His flight
power, like the others, are gone. A particularly erotic (for me)
fantasy is seeing Superman arrive, in flight, only to then
uncontrollably lose altitude once the Kryptonite is close enough to him.
The incremental evaporation of the powers, and the foreshadowing of his
impending doom and humiliation.
While I am technically still undecided on my ultimately preferred
outcome (whether he wins or loses to the villain) I am inclined to have
the hero survive, battered and abused. To be sure, a few seconds in the
sunshine and his powers are restored, but the emotional and
psychological scars will stay with him forever, and never be erased.
I too agree that, among other things, this recent conversation is what
this group out to be about!
Bob, you know, but others may not, that I share your sentiments exactly.
I too choose always to be the hero who meets his downfall and suffers.
When that hero is Superman (or Superboy, hehe) it is transcendent.
Playing Superman/boy is extremely erotic. The suit, the powers. The
only explanation I have arrived at for why some of us prefer to be the
suffering hero (and why that turns us on) comes in two parts: 1) some of
us are submissive, and others dominant. A dominant man would be
conceptually unequipped to appreciate the hero facing his downfall. 2)
we are jealous of Superman and that envy causes us to enjoy his
suffering. By playing the hero ourselves and experiencing the
suffering, we can ensure that it is indeed the right amount of suffering
he deserves.
Superman is so extraordinarily powerful, and yet he his that ONE
weakness. When not exposed to it, he flies around all righteous and
powerful like the god he is. He gets to wear a preposterously tight
outfit to show off his perfect body. Nobody calls him out for it
because he is so powerful.
However, expose him to Kryptonite, or even watch him stumble upon it on
his own, and you see a changed man. His fearlessness not only
disappears, but is replaced by an almost indescribable sense of anxiety
and pain. He is about to experience suffering beyond what any of us can
comprehend.
Personally, I love being the suffering Man of Steel, writhing in pain,
while the villain taunts me. Once invulnerable, now the slightest kicks
inflict excruciating pain. Being teased and taunted and laughed at in
the process makes it so much better too. Finally the mighty hero in his
tights is brought down to size. In fact, I don't know what is better,
the long painful suffering, or that first instant when the Kryptonite is
exposed, and Superman realizes his powers are gone.
Whereas normally he would take any challenge head on without thinking,
now he cannot even fly away like a coward if he wanted to! His flight
power, like the others, are gone. A particularly erotic (for me)
fantasy is seeing Superman arrive, in flight, only to then
uncontrollably lose altitude once the Kryptonite is close enough to him.
The incremental evaporation of the powers, and the foreshadowing of his
impending doom and humiliation.
While I am technically still undecided on my ultimately preferred
outcome (whether he wins or loses to the villain) I am inclined to have
the hero survive, battered and abused. To be sure, a few seconds in the
sunshine and his powers are restored, but the emotional and
psychological scars will stay with him forever, and never be erased.
strok...@aol.com
Jul 23, 2012, 9:30:04 AM7/23/12
to
In article <1341422722.119...@web120706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>,
suffering, rather than heroic, Superhero. That said, the suffering is so much more
erotic when it is in contrast to the heroic. That is to say, the idea of a smug,
invulnerable superhero, hands on hips, so cocky and sure of himself, confident he
could never be defeated, and then...whammo, a trap involving krytonite or atomic
rays or whatever... Man, the look of not only suffering but incredulity really
turns me on. So the answer to the question about which photo would be "both, one
of my being arrogant one second and one of me suffering a moment later when the
boom is lowered" When I am watching it (and I too am old enough to share
Greenway's memories of being turned on by watching the original George Reeves in
one of the Kryptonite episodes), I imagine that it is I who is suffering. The
fantasy for me, and it is plenty erotic, is that I AM the suffering superman. For
me this applies not only to superheros, and superman in particular, but to
musclemen in general. Steve Reeves or other sword and sandal muscle dudes being
bound and tortured has a similar effect on me. In the case of the superhero, as
with the muscle hero, a huge part of the turn on for me is the notion a supremely
muscular and powerful man with an incredible physique, weak and quivering in agony
as his muscles strain, in vain, against the evil forces against him. Superimposed
upon this is the notion of ones super power being "sapped", which is ultimately
manifest by the agony/ecstasy of a sexual climax. In addition to the suffering, I
am also turned on to the idea that people are watching and getting turned on my
watching me suffer, admiring me, even though I am the victim. Now as to WHY this
turns me on....don't know. But I can tell you that since I was a kid, I couldn't
take my eyes off of musclemen (especially those with big pecs like Mark Forest)
and superman (the epitome of a muscleman) especially if they were being tested and
suffering. One positive trend of professional wrestling in the last decades has
been a gravitation to more muscular bodybuilder type guys. I like seeing them
suffer as well and wrestling fantasies are another turn on for me if it involves
hyper muscular good guys who are suffering at the hands of also muscular heals. I
have my favorite body parts and tortures but in general there is nothing like
superman being sapped of his strength and made to suffer through creative
applications of krytonite. I have not had much time lately to explore and
contribute to the site but I was recently amazed at how much I seem to be on the
same wave length with much what was written by some members such as Skreau and
osomajor. (forgive the misspellings)
This is my very first post to this board. If I've broken any rules of etiquette,
my apologies.
Dave
green...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>OK, we know we all like to see Superman suffer. For different reasons,
>it seems, but there's that commonality. My question is for those of you
>(myself included) who like to play Superman as being helpless. I admit I
>don't have a clear answer in my own head, but here are some questions I
>ask myself a lot, and will now ask you:
>
>
>. Is it erotic for you to play Superman (either in person or in your
>
>
>OK, we know we all like to see Superman suffer. For different reasons,
>it seems, but there's that commonality. My question is for those of you
>(myself included) who like to play Superman as being helpless. I admit I
>don't have a clear answer in my own head, but here are some questions I
>ask myself a lot, and will now ask you:
>
>
> head) when he gets into trouble (e.g., atomic rays or Kryptonite)?
> Why do you think you have that reaction?
>. Would you rather see a photo of yourself in Superman costume in a
> Why do you think you have that reaction?
> heroic pose, or in a helpless situation? What is it about seeing
> you/him helpless that turns you on?
>. If you have the opportunity to role-play Superman vs. villain, would
> you/him helpless that turns you on?
> you rather be Superman or the villain, and in that case who wins?
>. If you play Superman and you lose, why is that your preference?
>
>As some of you know, I am way over the hill as far as age goes, and I
>remember seeing the '50s Superman shows when they were originally
>broadcast. Even at that early age, I enjoyed seeing Superman (or the
>Lone Ranger, or Zorro) be in trouble rather than be heroic. As time went
>on, with every successive Superman on TV or movies, I had the same
>reaction -- the best parts were when Superman is in peril.
>
>Since I have had the resources to get my own costumes over the last 10
>years or so, and basically create my own scenarios, I have much
>preferred to put myself in the role of suffering Superman. Yeah, I do
>heroic poses now and then, and occasionally I will play the villain to
>someone's else's hero. But my preference is always to be on the
>receiving end of Kryptonite, or atomic rays, etc.
>
>For any and all of you guys who feel the same way, I'd love to hear your
>thoughts as to why you think that's the case.
>
>
>Thanks for reading (if you made it this far).
I can only say that for me, my preference is always to watch (and play) the
>As some of you know, I am way over the hill as far as age goes, and I
>remember seeing the '50s Superman shows when they were originally
>broadcast. Even at that early age, I enjoyed seeing Superman (or the
>Lone Ranger, or Zorro) be in trouble rather than be heroic. As time went
>on, with every successive Superman on TV or movies, I had the same
>reaction -- the best parts were when Superman is in peril.
>
>Since I have had the resources to get my own costumes over the last 10
>years or so, and basically create my own scenarios, I have much
>preferred to put myself in the role of suffering Superman. Yeah, I do
>heroic poses now and then, and occasionally I will play the villain to
>someone's else's hero. But my preference is always to be on the
>receiving end of Kryptonite, or atomic rays, etc.
>
>For any and all of you guys who feel the same way, I'd love to hear your
>thoughts as to why you think that's the case.
>
>
>Thanks for reading (if you made it this far).
suffering, rather than heroic, Superhero. That said, the suffering is so much more
erotic when it is in contrast to the heroic. That is to say, the idea of a smug,
invulnerable superhero, hands on hips, so cocky and sure of himself, confident he
could never be defeated, and then...whammo, a trap involving krytonite or atomic
rays or whatever... Man, the look of not only suffering but incredulity really
turns me on. So the answer to the question about which photo would be "both, one
of my being arrogant one second and one of me suffering a moment later when the
boom is lowered" When I am watching it (and I too am old enough to share
Greenway's memories of being turned on by watching the original George Reeves in
one of the Kryptonite episodes), I imagine that it is I who is suffering. The
fantasy for me, and it is plenty erotic, is that I AM the suffering superman. For
me this applies not only to superheros, and superman in particular, but to
musclemen in general. Steve Reeves or other sword and sandal muscle dudes being
bound and tortured has a similar effect on me. In the case of the superhero, as
with the muscle hero, a huge part of the turn on for me is the notion a supremely
muscular and powerful man with an incredible physique, weak and quivering in agony
as his muscles strain, in vain, against the evil forces against him. Superimposed
upon this is the notion of ones super power being "sapped", which is ultimately
manifest by the agony/ecstasy of a sexual climax. In addition to the suffering, I
am also turned on to the idea that people are watching and getting turned on my
watching me suffer, admiring me, even though I am the victim. Now as to WHY this
turns me on....don't know. But I can tell you that since I was a kid, I couldn't
take my eyes off of musclemen (especially those with big pecs like Mark Forest)
and superman (the epitome of a muscleman) especially if they were being tested and
suffering. One positive trend of professional wrestling in the last decades has
been a gravitation to more muscular bodybuilder type guys. I like seeing them
suffer as well and wrestling fantasies are another turn on for me if it involves
hyper muscular good guys who are suffering at the hands of also muscular heals. I
have my favorite body parts and tortures but in general there is nothing like
superman being sapped of his strength and made to suffer through creative
applications of krytonite. I have not had much time lately to explore and
contribute to the site but I was recently amazed at how much I seem to be on the
same wave length with much what was written by some members such as Skreau and
osomajor. (forgive the misspellings)
This is my very first post to this board. If I've broken any rules of etiquette,
my apologies.
Dave
Skrwaeu
Sep 20, 2012, 10:56:49 AM9/20/12
to
Hello Bob.
You? Way over the hill? I think not. No one wears the costume or
suffers as well as you do -- whether it's Spiderman, Superman, or Golden
Rod.
Why do we like it? I have no idea. My feelings started at a very young
age when I first watched wrestling. Even then, when the "good guy" got in
trouble, it would excite me no end. I always wanted the "good guy" to
win, but I wanted him to have to work for it. And when he got tied up in
the ropes, helpless, legs spread . . . that was the ultimate.
In the Superman series, I was always drawn to the tight costume and the
muscles. And when and if Superman got in trouble (which didn't happen
near enough), I would be in a total fantasy world watching the Man of
Steel writhe in pain.
Captain Marvel was always my favorite superhero as a kid. I have recently
seen episodes on youtube wherein Captain Marvel is knocked out by
electricity, and I still get turned on watching it. I think it is his one
piece costume that gets to me. I seem to remember an episode where the
"bad guys" are in a car and he has caught them. But when he cockily walks
up to the car to open the door and seize them, an electric charge goes
through the metal, and he grimaces in pain, unable to let go. He finally
falls to the ground and the "bad guys" get away. I can't find that
particular episode on youtube. It could be something that I made up.
I don't want the superhero to die. He has to always come back for more
heroics as well as captures.
I don't usually see myself in the role of Superman, but rather the
villain. However, in the case of OmniBoy, college student/superhero, I
am always the superhero helping people in trouble or thwarting crime.
There is one arch enemy, however, who is just about to figure out who
OmniBoy really is and has discovered a weakness or two. I am always able
to escape, but never before suffering at his hands involving a sweaty
scene where I am overcome by the odor of the sweaty man and/or his
jockstrap.
I have no idea why. It's just what turns me on.
Bob, you're the best. Don't sell yourself short. Even sometime back when
Superman was shot with a kryptonite bullet, it was HOT seeing you go down.
Even if you think of yourself as over the hill, there should always be an
experienced superhero to show the younger heros the ropes. Even if you
were to misjudge a situation and cause everyone to get in trouble, it
would be an honest mistake. But they would always find a way to free
themselves.
It is all very erotic. I have no idea why I have this reaction -- perhaps
it's the domination aspect. In the later TV series of Superman with Dean
Cane, on of the hottest scenes I remember is at Lex Luthor's wedding to
Lois Lane when Lex causes a steel cage to fall surrounding Superman.
Superman has his hands on his hips with a pissed-off expression on his
face and says something to the effect You know this cage can't hold me . .
. and as he walks toward the bars to bend them and escape, Lex uses a
remote to turn on the kryptonite rays in the bars and Superman is taken to
his knees and left to die . . .
I have no idea why all this is a turn-on, I just it is. And I go with the
flow. There was a short scene on youtube sometime back where at a
Superhero convention, two twinks walk up to a very nice looking Superman
and thrust a kryptonite rock at him and he is taken down . . . He does
that scene very well.
These discussions are great. And they turn me just talking about it as
well as giving me fodder for future scenes in my head . . .
Keep it up.
OmniBoy
You? Way over the hill? I think not. No one wears the costume or
suffers as well as you do -- whether it's Spiderman, Superman, or Golden
Rod.
Why do we like it? I have no idea. My feelings started at a very young
age when I first watched wrestling. Even then, when the "good guy" got in
trouble, it would excite me no end. I always wanted the "good guy" to
win, but I wanted him to have to work for it. And when he got tied up in
the ropes, helpless, legs spread . . . that was the ultimate.
In the Superman series, I was always drawn to the tight costume and the
muscles. And when and if Superman got in trouble (which didn't happen
near enough), I would be in a total fantasy world watching the Man of
Steel writhe in pain.
Captain Marvel was always my favorite superhero as a kid. I have recently
seen episodes on youtube wherein Captain Marvel is knocked out by
electricity, and I still get turned on watching it. I think it is his one
piece costume that gets to me. I seem to remember an episode where the
"bad guys" are in a car and he has caught them. But when he cockily walks
up to the car to open the door and seize them, an electric charge goes
through the metal, and he grimaces in pain, unable to let go. He finally
falls to the ground and the "bad guys" get away. I can't find that
particular episode on youtube. It could be something that I made up.
I don't want the superhero to die. He has to always come back for more
heroics as well as captures.
I don't usually see myself in the role of Superman, but rather the
villain. However, in the case of OmniBoy, college student/superhero, I
am always the superhero helping people in trouble or thwarting crime.
There is one arch enemy, however, who is just about to figure out who
OmniBoy really is and has discovered a weakness or two. I am always able
to escape, but never before suffering at his hands involving a sweaty
scene where I am overcome by the odor of the sweaty man and/or his
jockstrap.
I have no idea why. It's just what turns me on.
Bob, you're the best. Don't sell yourself short. Even sometime back when
Superman was shot with a kryptonite bullet, it was HOT seeing you go down.
Even if you think of yourself as over the hill, there should always be an
experienced superhero to show the younger heros the ropes. Even if you
were to misjudge a situation and cause everyone to get in trouble, it
would be an honest mistake. But they would always find a way to free
themselves.
It is all very erotic. I have no idea why I have this reaction -- perhaps
it's the domination aspect. In the later TV series of Superman with Dean
Cane, on of the hottest scenes I remember is at Lex Luthor's wedding to
Lois Lane when Lex causes a steel cage to fall surrounding Superman.
Superman has his hands on his hips with a pissed-off expression on his
face and says something to the effect You know this cage can't hold me . .
. and as he walks toward the bars to bend them and escape, Lex uses a
remote to turn on the kryptonite rays in the bars and Superman is taken to
his knees and left to die . . .
I have no idea why all this is a turn-on, I just it is. And I go with the
flow. There was a short scene on youtube sometime back where at a
Superhero convention, two twinks walk up to a very nice looking Superman
and thrust a kryptonite rock at him and he is taken down . . . He does
that scene very well.
These discussions are great. And they turn me just talking about it as
well as giving me fodder for future scenes in my head . . .
Keep it up.
OmniBoy
Jesse Portillo
Jun 27, 2015, 11:01:42 PM6/27/15
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fantasizing about defeating and destroying a powerful superhero, and
especially about being that superhero as it's done to him, or being the
super-villain destroying that hero.
But who gives a fuck about that? I always hated psychology, could never
understand it. On the other hand, I have always fantasized about defeating
and destroying super-heroes.
I don't know why I like it, and I don't really care either. I just like it.
And I also like watching others act it out, or read about them acting it
out here.
Don't mind me, just ranting and raving here. :)
Archie D
Jun 28, 2015, 6:06:33 AM6/28/15
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jessep...@yahoo.com wrote:
>There's probably something psychotic or Freudian or really disturbing about
>fantasizing about defeating and destroying a powerful superhero, and
>especially about being that superhero as it's done to him, or being the
>super-villain destroying that hero.
>
>But who gives a fuck about that? I always hated psychology, could never
>understand it. On the other hand, I have always fantasized about defeating
>and destroying super-heroes.
>
>I don't know why I like it, and I don't really care either. I just like it.
>And I also like watching others act it out, or read about them acting it
>out here.
>
>Don't mind me, just ranting and raving here. :)
Yes
>There's probably something psychotic or Freudian or really disturbing about
>fantasizing about defeating and destroying a powerful superhero, and
>especially about being that superhero as it's done to him, or being the
>super-villain destroying that hero.
>
>But who gives a fuck about that? I always hated psychology, could never
>understand it. On the other hand, I have always fantasized about defeating
>and destroying super-heroes.
>
>I don't know why I like it, and I don't really care either. I just like it.
>And I also like watching others act it out, or read about them acting it
>out here.
>
>Don't mind me, just ranting and raving here. :)
I'm trying myself to figure out what's this all about defeating superheroes ,
perhaps the super powers, the costumes , masks and capes ... Who knows!
I'm glad this group came back to life, anyway!!
Archie
Skrwaeu
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It's even hotter when the superhero boasts of his powers and strength just
before he's overthrown. For instance, the first time Superman (George Reeves)
was exposed to kryptonite. Lois and Jimmy are held captive in a basement room.
Superman comes in to rescue them and the villain slams the door shut and locks
it. Superman conceitedly comments "Why would he lock the door. He knows I can
take this place apart with my bare hands." He smashes his fist against the
door, but nothing happens. With a worried look on his face, he looks at his
fist and then at the door and smashes the door again. Nothing happens.
There's a "clunk" heard in a nearby ash dump from the upstairs fireplace
through which the kryptonite brick has been dropped. When Jimmy retrieves the
brick and walks toward Superman, the Man of Steel falls to the floor . . .
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before he's overthrown. For instance, the first time Superman (George Reeves)
was exposed to kryptonite. Lois and Jimmy are held captive in a basement room.
Superman comes in to rescue them and the villain slams the door shut and locks
it. Superman conceitedly comments "Why would he lock the door. He knows I can
take this place apart with my bare hands." He smashes his fist against the
door, but nothing happens. With a worried look on his face, he looks at his
fist and then at the door and smashes the door again. Nothing happens.
There's a "clunk" heard in a nearby ash dump from the upstairs fireplace
through which the kryptonite brick has been dropped. When Jimmy retrieves the
brick and walks toward Superman, the Man of Steel falls to the floor . . .
str8bifar
Sep 2, 2015, 10:09:48 PM9/2/15
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I do like the Golden Age era comic book heroes. Ironically, despite the
more prudish times, the male costumes were often a *lot* sexier. Also,
the heroes were not invincibly powerful. They had super powers yes, but
were often still vulnerable to getting knocked out by clever or sneaky
criminals. And/or they had easily-exploitable weaknesses that could
render them powerless, or were dependent on some kind of limited power
source.
It's especially sexy if the tights-clad hero is very naive and
overconfident, either overestimating his super powers or underestimating
how easily criminals (ideally ordinary non-powered ones) can find out
about and exploit his super weaknesses.
For example, a hero that gets his powers from sunlight might nonetheless
foolishly enter a building or underground lair without giving much
thought to the fact that his powers start fading as soon as he is out of
the sun. Or perhaps he finds himself on his way home for the night at
sunset just as he hears a crime in progress that he feels he must stop to
thwart, even though his powers will be gone in minutes.
Ironic weaknesses are a favorite too. As a nylon/hosiery fetishist, I
really like the idea of hose-wearing heroes who get their super powers
from either sunlight or cosmic rays absorbed and stored by their
pantyhose. But just as sheer nylon is the source of their super powers,
it also acts like a conductor that can be used to neutralize or drain it.
For example, the hosed hero doesn't really have super-strength,
invulnerability, etc...These are all just effects of the energy field
generated by his hosiery. But contact with pure, sheer nylon can
temporarily short-circuit and discharge his super powers, leaving him
drained and powerless until his sheers slowly recharge. But if, instead
of brief contact, he is for example bound in nylon material then his
powers are draining away faster than they ca n recharge, leaving him
completely helpless.
Also love when science villains (or just clever geeks) come up with super
power neutralizing gadgets.
Of course, the hero should end up sexually molested and thoroughly
humiliated. Especially if he cannot save himself and ends up being saved
only because somebody like the cops or another (rival) hero shows up to
untie him and help him get home since his powers are temporarily wiped
out and he's a mess of criminal cum (and his own).
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