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al...@worldnet.att.net

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Jan 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/11/97
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Where can I purchase an Ideal SuperguardLock II?

Steve Brown

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Jan 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/12/97
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al...@worldnet.att.net wrote:
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> Where can I purchase an Ideal SuperguardLock II?

These locks were imported by Ideal Security who has since gone
bankrupt. These locks have not been avaiable now for years and there is
no direct replacment for them. You can either use a MAG plate and
knoblock or replace the door. Not a lot of options

Steve

loc...@aol.com

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Jan 14, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/14/97
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Were they anything like Corbin Unit locks? If so check Washington
State surplus.

fred

Robin Turner

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Jan 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/16/97
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No the aren't (weren't). I haved one sitting one my stock shelf just
waiting for someone who needs it!
--
Robin Turner, Turner's Locksmith & Engraving,Mingo Junction, OH - visit
Robin's Nest at - http://www.clover.net/rbturner


Billy B. Edwards Jr.

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Jan 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/16/97
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loc...@aol.com wrote:
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> Were they anything like Corbin Unit locks? If so check Washington
> State surplus.

Just for reference, the Ideal Superguard II was a automatic deadbolt
with a handle pull outside and a dropbolt lock inside. Originally
manufacturered somewhere in MN, the company moved to Johnson City, TN in
later years where manufacturing was continued until about 8 years ago.
Except for being a die cast product which didn't wear well, the design
was a good one. The company went bankrupt.

The lock can be replaced with a standard key-in-knob lockset as long as
you make a hole for the latchbolt. The MAG plate was a good suggestion
for helping cover the finish difference you will find under the existing
lock.
BBE.

Carl Curling

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Jan 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/18/97
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On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 21:42:03 -0800, "Billy B. Edwards Jr."
<BM...@concentric.net> wrote:

>loc...@aol.com wrote:
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>> Were they anything like Corbin Unit locks? If so check Washington
>> State surplus.
>
>Just for reference, the Ideal Superguard II was a automatic deadbolt
>with a handle pull outside and a dropbolt lock inside. Originally
>manufacturered somewhere in MN, the company moved to Johnson City, TN in
>later years where manufacturing was continued until about 8 years ago.
>Except for being a die cast product which didn't wear well, the design
>was a good one. The company went bankrupt.
>

Probably settling the lawsuit with medico for violation of patent
rights... They had really nice medico clone on one model of the
supergard II... It disappeared almost as fast as it appeared on the
market. BTW: we called that particular design a "Jimmy Proof" in our
shop... -Carl

loc...@aol.com

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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Anyting like the weiser bolt. I thought by definition a lock had to be
positvely throw to be a deadbolt anything else was a dead latch.

fred

Billy B. Edwards Jr.

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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No, it was a true deadbolt. The bolt was capable of being retracted
with the key and the lock had a trigger which interacted with the strike
on the jamb to allow the bolt to throw itself. No beveled surfaces on
the bolt to allow engagement of the strike. The deadlatch is nothing
more than a latch with a deadlocking finger which interacts with the
strike to abort most attempts at shimming the latch back to allow entry.

Automatic deadbolts are rare in the US but seem to be available from
someone in most other countries. The one most familiar to US locksmiths
after the Superguard is a rim device made in England by Ingersoll.
BBE.

Carl Curling

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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On 19 Jan 1997 05:17:33 GMT, loc...@aol.com wrote:

>Anyting like the weiser bolt. I thought by definition a lock had to be
>positvely throw to be a deadbolt anything else was a dead latch.

No it was a Jimmy Proof... The two rings in the strike plate fit into
a two slots in the lock case surface mounted on the inside of the
door, and the bolt drops into the rings making a pretty secure device,
but 90% of them are single cylinder. Seems to me that the SG II also
had a little button or sliding device that would lock the outside
cylinder from operating the lock. He better not come home drunk one
more time <G> -Carl


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