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Gougler 30S Keyless Padlocks

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Lou Vescio

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May 18, 2003, 11:07:39 PM5/18/03
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I have two old Gougler Locks 30S Keyless Padlocks from the late 1940's
or early 50's for which I would like to obtain the combination. These
locks have been in my Mom's basement since the early 1960's when they
put new lockers in our high school and threw away buckets full of
these locks.

A photo of the lock can be seen at:
http://www.gougler.com/locks/Gougler%20Lock%2030-S.jpg

I found that Gougler is now owned by the Kent Tool Co and they have
not made
locks in many years. I have written the company, but I doubt I will
get a
response.

The locks are the type used on old school lockers in the fifties and
were held on by little chains. I think most schools remodeled since
then with the locks embedded in the locker door.

Numbers on the shackle are 262 and 655. I believe that when I was in
school,
the janitor had a listing of all these numbers with the corresponding
combination. I wonder if anyone still has such a list.

Do you know how I might be able to find the combinations for these
locks? What years were they made? What are they worth? Do they have
any value to collectors? I have not seen any in use for many years, so
I was wondering if
they are pretty scarce. (I searched ebay, where everything can be
found, and
found no listings for these locks.) Any help on this matter would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Lou Vescio
lve...@cox.net

Joe Kesselman (yclept Keshlam)

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May 18, 2003, 11:23:50 PM5/18/03
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> What years were they made? What are they worth? Do they have
> any value to collectors?

You might want to try contacting the Lock Museum
(http://www.lockmuseum.com/) and see whether they'd have dates and
estimated values. (I keep meaning to drop by, one of these years...)

Re finding the combination: I can think of a couple of possible
approaches -- if it isn't in the codebooks (and it may not be), you're
looking at manipulation or other techniques for deducing the combo from
the lock; if you don't have those skills, the cost of getting the
combination may be higher than the value of the lock unless it's _VERY_
unusual.

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Henry E Schaffer

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May 19, 2003, 7:46:19 PM5/19/03
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In article <d4f6eb0c.03051...@posting.google.com>,

Lou Vescio <lve...@cox.net> wrote:
>I have two old Gougler Locks 30S Keyless Padlocks from the late 1940's
>or early 50's for which I would like to obtain the combination. These
>locks have been in my Mom's basement since the early 1960's when they
>put new lockers in our high school and threw away buckets full of
>these locks.
>
>A photo of the lock can be seen at:
>http://www.gougler.com/locks/Gougler%20Lock%2030-S.jpg
>
>I found that Gougler is now owned by the Kent Tool Co and they have not
>made locks in many years. ...

>Do you know how I might be able to find the combinations for these

>locks? ...

I'm going to give away a secret (so Keyman, please look the other
way.) In the business, this is known as "exhaustive search". Just try
every combination! On the average it will take only half of the
combination spece.

It's a good way to keep your hands busy while watching the typical TV
program - and you don't even have to look down at the lock!
--
--henry schaffer
h...@ncsu.edu

Lou Vescio

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May 28, 2003, 7:52:48 PM5/28/03
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I e-mailed the Kent Tool Co., previous mfg of Gougler Locks, and they
told me that if I mailed in the locks, they would send them back with
the combinations. I did that and got them back both within a week and
they work great. I think they even lubricated the mechanism since it
seems to turn easier. I just had to pay postage both ways.

These locks have not been made in over 30 years, but the company said
that they have people that occasionally contact them about the locks.
Many people want to know where they can purchase new ones, since they
like the fact that you count clicks to open the combination.

If anyone knows where I might be able to get more of these or what
value they may have to a collector, please let me know. A picture can
be seen at the following website:
http://www.gougler.com/locks/Gougler%20Lock%2030-S.jpg

Thanks,
Lou


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