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Eckels

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Sep 12, 2003, 6:46:25 PM9/12/03
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Herlo again.

I was looking at getting a cylindrical lockset jig, and I took a look
at the porter cable one. I wasn't too thrilled with the fact that it
was plastic. I figured for 150$+ they'd at least make it out of metal.
It seems to me that if it wasn't clamped on PERFECTLY straight, you'd
bore through the door and right into the other side of the jig... Plus
I dont understand how it could stop the door from splitting if it's
not holding it tight... but anyways I digress.... I wont be buying the
porter cable one.

I took a look at Kwikset's setup, but I haven't seen it in the flesh
yet. It's all metal which is already a plus, and it comes with more
options than the porter cable set, so I was wondering if anyone had
experience with this one?

If not that one, then what else is around that's good for a relative
beginner?

Thanks!

Billy B. Edwards Jr.

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Sep 12, 2003, 7:09:45 PM9/12/03
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Boring jigs keep you from splitting the wood on one side because they
give you the starting points to drill the door from both sides toward
the middle where the holes will meet.

Metal is better since you will be working with metal bits. Just be
careful how you tighten the jig onto the door, it is possible to clamp
it so that only one end is holding and then it will move just when you
don't want it too.
BBE.

Leon Rowell

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Sep 12, 2003, 11:47:51 PM9/12/03
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I have an older Kwikset jig that has always served me well. The only problem is
that mine has 5" backset holes that get in the way. Some folks cut the 5" off so
it works better for installing deadbolts in doors with glass panels. It was $58
when I bought it new.... ;^)

Leon Rowell

Jack

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Sep 13, 2003, 8:55:42 AM9/13/03
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I have the Kwikset Jig, and love it. But lately, I have found a new setup
that I'm probably going to get also. IDN carries it. Its made by A-1
security products. Compact and very handy, priced right also. I think
its really going to be a winner.

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Mzone719

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Sep 13, 2003, 11:46:32 AM9/13/03
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we have the porter cable jig in our shop, collecting dust for the most part.
The only time i could honestly say we use it is when we have to re-bore a hole
because someone decided to drill a 2" instead of a 2-1/8 or something
similar...I echo the opinion about it being plastic, not a big fan of
that...find that the plastic wears out over the years.

Glen Cooper

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Sep 13, 2003, 4:26:07 PM9/13/03
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My Kwikset jig works well but I like using the metal hole saws on the wooden
doors because the auger bits that come with it bog my 14.4 volt DeWalt down
too much.


Jack

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Sep 13, 2003, 9:35:27 PM9/13/03
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I have to admit this, I recently bought the new Milwaukee 18 volt hammer
drill. I've had quite a few ryobi's, makihta's, dewalt's, B+D's, etc.
I have never seen anything like this one. On average, each battery is
lasting 4-5 hours of hard use, and is has all the power I could ever want.
I have used the hammer-drill option, and it truly performed as advertised.
Lets start a new thread. I'll start it.

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"Key"

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Sep 13, 2003, 11:10:33 PM9/13/03
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"Eckels" <eck...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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I have an older Kwikset Lock Boring Jig thats been in use
for 17+ years.
am very satisfied with it.
not sure if it the same as the new ones these days.
Cut the 5" backset part off the jig.
never used that sucker anyway..

g'luck
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"Key"

miles

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Sep 14, 2003, 3:25:38 PM9/14/03
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"\"Key\"" <K...@Ya.net> wrote in message news:<J_Q8b.14912$KW1....@twister.austin.rr.com>...

Eckels,

Don't have the Kwik-Set jig, but If you are looking for a great lock
boring jig, try the Weiser model 1963. I bought mine under the Falcon
brand name in 1981 and it's still going strong. Was expensive
then....about $230. But well worth it.
Never have seen another one quite like it.

Wayne's Locks

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Sep 16, 2003, 10:16:33 AM9/16/03
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I've been using my Kwikset jig for 10 years, first thing I did was cut off
the 5" section when I had a door with lights to bore. It was used when I
bought it and I wouldn't trade it. Bought a new jig, just in case I needed
to bore a 5" backset. From all the use this jig has seen, the bore holes
have opened up a little and with the help of an old holesaw, I use it with
holesaws all the time. Still have the new jig for borebits. Wayne Wayne's
Locks and Etc.

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Eckels

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Sep 22, 2003, 7:11:53 PM9/22/03
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I bought the kwikset jig today! Or rather, I ordered it through my
store a week ago, but it arrived today. I must say I'm impressed. I
used a porter cable jig as a last minute substitution on Saturday, for
installing two locksets, and I was not impressed at all. In fact, I
was wholly disappointed, as I figured I'd be. absolute garbage. On the
very first bore, the bit ate into the plastic ring on the other side.
Garbage!

So anyways, The kwikset jig came today, and I am most impressed. Only
one problem... The quick bit change adapter that comes with the kit
was bent! lol. I didnt even realize it until i got it home and tried
it on a piece of 2x6. The 3/8th drill post was bent just a bit in one
direction so the whole thing wobbles like hell.

So I called up kwikset (they have a supposed lifetime warranty on the
jig) and spoke to one lady, who insisted I had to return it to the
store and have them order the part. Well, now... I work at the store I
bought it from. We're a true value. I ordered this lockset through the
true value warehouse. There's absolutely no way in hell that true
value would stock or even order this part, and I know it. But she
insisted over and over, so I finally gave up, said goodbye and hung
up. I called back and spoke spoke to a different lady, and within a
minute, she was taking my information and now I'll be receiving the
replacement part. Yay!

Thinking about it now, Why would they put a 3/8ths drive on the
adapter? It should be half inch.

Oh well, so that's my glory story. All in all, I'm very impressed with
this jig. By the way you vets, I think they gave up on the 5" backset,
because on this jig there's nothing for it. I guess they saw that
everyone kept cutting them off anyways, so why bother? :)

Till next time!

Jack

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Sep 22, 2003, 7:55:01 PM9/22/03
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You've gotten a different jig kit than I do. I bought my latest one only
a 1 and a half ago and it was still the older model with the 5" backset
still on the jig. I'm glad you like it though, it is a great setup.

Jack
Allied Lock & Security
Atlanta, GA

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"Key"

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Sep 22, 2003, 8:27:07 PM9/22/03
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"Eckels" <eck...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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sound like the left hand doesn't know what the right is
doing at kwikset :-)
good to know that they discontinued the 5" b.s..

g'day
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"Key"

Absinthe

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Sep 23, 2003, 8:29:24 AM9/23/03
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I have an old Kwikset 400 series jig. This one still uses the 7/8"
crossbore, but uses self feeding bits for both the 2-1/8 and 7/8 face and
cross bores. It is the whole kit including the strike markers and such. It
only does 2-3/8 and 5" backset (no 2-3/4)

Though I like it, I could be convinced to part with it.

-- Absinthe


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Leon Rowell

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Sep 23, 2003, 9:48:56 AM9/23/03
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Are you sure there isn't a removable bushing/spacer in the strike bore hole? I've
never seen a Kwikset kit that didn't do 2 3/4" backset. Mine has a blue adapter in
the strike bore hole where it fits against the door edge. You unscrew the set
screw a ways and remove the bushing/spacer for 2 3/4".

Leon Rowell

"Key"

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Sep 23, 2003, 11:27:00 AM9/23/03
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"Absinthe" <bradle...@XNOSPAMXhotmail.com> wrote in
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> I have an old Kwikset 400 series jig. This one still uses
the 7/8"
> crossbore, but uses self feeding bits for both the 2-1/8
and 7/8 face and
> cross bores. It is the whole kit including the strike
markers and such. It
> only does 2-3/8 and 5" backset (no 2-3/4)
>
> Though I like it, I could be convinced to part with it.
>
> -- Absinthe

used to have one of those.
(think it was the same ?)
had a spacer to remove when needing the 2-3/4" bs setting.

my2¢
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"Key"

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Absinthe

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Sep 23, 2003, 3:27:23 PM9/23/03
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Perhaps, but not one I can see.


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Steve Paris

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Sep 23, 2003, 4:32:22 PM9/23/03
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"Eckels" <eck...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> I bought the kwikset jig today! Or rather, I ordered it through my
> store a week ago, but it arrived today. I must say I'm impressed. I
> used a porter cable jig as a last minute substitution on Saturday, for
> installing two locksets, and I was not impressed at all. In fact, I
> was wholly disappointed, as I figured I'd be. absolute garbage. On the
> very first bore, the bit ate into the plastic ring on the other side.
> Garbage!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<

Never seen the need to own or use any type of jig for lock installations.
You really only need a good square and a tape measure and a pencil for 99%
of lock installs. If you have trouble drilling a nice straight horizontal
hole that meets up with your marks on the opposite side of the door then get
yourself a little round bubble level, about the size of a 5 cent bit, and
glue it on top of your drill so you can see if you are drilling downward or
upward. If you stand upright and square on to the job, you can see exactly
where the drill is positioned. Buy an old door for a couple of bucks, and
practice drilling a hundred holes in the thing, then you will have the
confidence to go 'un-jiggered' out into the big wide world. Cheers.

--
Steve Paris L/S
Tropical Cairns Nth Queensland
Australia.


"Key"

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Sep 23, 2003, 4:43:06 PM9/23/03
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"Steve Paris" <spampro...@myoffice.net.au> wrote in
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one time I was installing a deadbolt on a customized door.
this door was over 3-1/2" thick. the jig would not fit the
door.
(wish it would have!)
I was using whole saws. got a little off and the saw hung
and skipped across the door before I could release the
trigger on the drill.
needless to say,
cost me a pretty penny to have the door repaired and
re-finished.

--
"Key"


MThomas859

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Sep 23, 2003, 5:44:16 PM9/23/03
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>From: "Steve Paris"

>practice drilling a hundred holes in the thing, then you will have the
>confidence to go 'un-jiggered' out into the big wide world.

"un-jiggered" How do we add that to a Locksmith Glossary? Love it!<ROFL>

Steve Paris

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Sep 24, 2003, 4:20:26 PM9/24/03
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""Key"" <K...@Ya.net> wrote in message

> I was using whole saws. got a little off and the saw hung


> and skipped across the door before I could release the
> trigger on the drill.
> needless to say,
> cost me a pretty penny to have the door repaired and
> re-finished.
>
> --
> "Key"
>

OUCH ! ... One of the first lock installs I ever did was on a very
expensive brand new polished timber door. I had marked out everything
properly, bent down, picked up the drill, and proceeded to drill on a speck
of fly sh*t that was 3 inches above my mark. Cost me $500 for a new door.
Now all drill positions are marked with an ... X .. not just a dot. Fly's
SUCK !

"Key"

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always believed...
if you never make a mistake ?
you never do it right !

my2¢
g'day
--
"Key"

Putyourspamhere

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Oct 15, 2003, 12:06:07 PM10/15/03
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>Subject: Re: Kwikset Lock Boring Jig
>From: "Steve Paris" spampro...@myoffice.net.au
>Date: 9/23/2003 4:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <bkqag8$de2$1...@gnamma.connect.com.au>

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>"Eckels" <eck...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>> I bought the kwikset jig today! Or rather, I ordered it through my
>> store a week ago, but it arrived today. I must say I'm impressed. I
>> used a porter cable jig as a last minute substitution on Saturday, for
>> installing two locksets, and I was not impressed at all. In fact, I
>> was wholly disappointed, as I figured I'd be. absolute garbage. On the
>> very first bore, the bit ate into the plastic ring on the other side.
>> Garbage!
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<

-snip-


>
If you have trouble drilling a nice straight horizontal
>hole that meets up with your marks on the opposite side of the door then get
>yourself a little round bubble level, about the size of a 5 cent bit, and
>glue it on top of your drill so you can see if you are drilling downward or
>upward.

-snip-

Dewalt drill has the level built in.

Jack

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Oct 15, 2003, 7:40:40 PM10/15/03
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I completely agree with you regarding the kwikset jig. From what I've
found, its been the best on the market for a long time. Simplicity
combined with functionality at its finest. I'm getting ready to try the
A-1 product's jig and we'll see how that one works out. Honestly, it
actually looks like it will be even better than the kwikset, but for now,
I'm a Kwikset believer. I've tried many of the others, and they are a
joke in comparison.

Just my $.02 worth.

Jack
Allied Lock & Security
Atlanta, GA

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