Harley-Davidson locks
JP
Harley? I just did one that I picked... it would turn a little
bit..(less than one pin distance) the pins would lock up. the pick
would not turn it anymore or turn it back. with no other ideas i set
the pick and made a key.. filed the index off the key so it would go in
and it works fine. i have not a clue as to what is happening here. any
ideas? johnny
"Keyman"
I know this is not exactly what you are asking for.
but
I have been trying to find a code reference for these locks.
I have contacted Fort Lock / Chicago (They make them for Harley
Davidson) and was told that the locks and design was basically
privileged information. The did tell me that the design was NOT
the same as other tubular design's. This was special to Harley
Davidson. Thats as far as I got with them.
I then contacted someone in Milwaukee that did the code keys for
the dealers when they ordered keys by code. I did this through a
mutual friend at one of the main HD Dealerships.
I was told basically the same thing, Privileged Information.
Not sure about your problem since I have never tried to make a
key for these tubular locks that are on HD's. I was just trying
to be able to cut one by code...
I have heard from that guy in Milwaukee that the pins are a
little offset than other Ace type cylinders.
Because the pins were made a little different..
I do not know this for sure..
Maybe your pick manipulated the pins to the right place and then
slipped off some of the pins when you tried to turn it.
When you cut the key, the size of the cuts were wide enough to
hold them in the right place.
Your guess is as good as mine..
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"Keyman"
"JP" <j...@ghg.net> wrote in message
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Robert Nichols
:Anyone have information on the round key locks used on the newer
:Harley? I just did one that I picked... it would turn a little
:bit..(less than one pin distance) the pins would lock up. the pick
:would not turn it anymore or turn it back. with no other ideas i set
:the pick and made a key.. filed the index off the key so it would go in
:and it works fine. i have not a clue as to what is happening here. any
:ideas? johnny
The spring pressure on the drivers has pushed the rotating plug outward
creating a gap at the shear plane. When you rotate the plug enough that
the top pins are between the drivers, one or more of the top pins can
fall in between the extended drivers in this gap, jamming the lock.
This usually doesn't happen with a lock that's mounted horizontally and
never happens with a lock mounted vertically with the keyhole at the
bottom, but can be a big problem when the key is inserted in a downward
direction because gravity will make the top pins fall in exactly where
you don't want them. To un-jam the lock just push in on the center post
while rotating it with a pair of needle nose pliers.
You can prevent the problem by equipping your pick with a center spring
that pushes in on the center post of the lock. That will prevent the
gap from forming, and the pins can't jam if there's no gap. The jam
doesn't occur when using a key because the uncut areas on the end of the
key press in on the plug.
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Bob Nichols rnic...@interaccess.com
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