Locked out of electronic safe!
thedevil...@gmail.com
an older Elsafe Model m70 with an electronic keypad lock and no key
backup that I know of. The combo is 6 digits long, but somehow I
managed to get locked outta mine. I've been trying like the dickens to
get back in, but I can't and elsafe tech support said since I wasn't a
locksmith, they won't help. I searched the safe and found a hole on
the side that leads into the locked door. What does this do? Can
anyone help me get into my safe? I'll pay you via paypal or something.
Please help!
Steve
<thedevil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Do yourself a big favor and just haul it in to a locksmith or if it's bolted
down call a locksmith. The only real alternative you have is to call the
hotel and ask for the override code/procedure. Virtually all hotel room
safes will have one. If the hotel still uses those safes the chances they
will tell you are slim and none, in which case you might be able to bring it
to them and get them to override it for you. Most people are going to be
even more tight lipped on this than on most safes because telling you how to
compromise this one will tell you how to compromise hundreds more just like
it which can easily be found in hotels all over the country.
thedevil...@gmail.com
> <thedevilsmilk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Hey guys, I bought asafeoff eBay that was pulled from a hotel. It's
> > an older Elsafe Model m70 with an electronic keypad lock and no key
> > backup that I know of. The combo is 6 digits long, but somehow I
> > managed to get locked outta mine. I've been trying like the dickens to
> > get back in, but I can't and elsafe tech support said since I wasn't a
> > the side that leads into the locked door. What does this do? Can
> > Please help!
>
> Do yourself a big favor and just haul it in to a locksmith or if it's bolted
> safes will have one. If thehotelstill uses those safes the chances they
> will tell you are slim and none, in which case you might be able to bring it
> to them and get them to override it for you. Most people are going to be
> even more tight lipped on this than on most safes because telling you how to
> compromise this one will tell you how to compromise hundreds more just like
> it which can easily be found in hotels all over the country.
The seller won't tell me what hotel it came from, and it's not on the
safe that I can see. I hope they won't be so tightlipped because my
local locksmith told me he can only do combo safes, not electronic
ones. This is the safe:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110088487144
I think it's too old for any hotel to have any more. I don't have it
bolted down. I see a hole on the side by where the door is, which I
think is how it's overrided, but I think I need some special tool.
Please help if you can. Like I said, I'm more than willing to pay for
the services, I just can't get it done locally because it my locksmith
won't touch it. I can provide serial and everything to prove it's
legit and not stolen as well.
Al Mundy
<thedevil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The ad on ebay says the following:
"There is no original combination. You insert a magnetic pin then set your
own 6 digit combination then close the door. You enter your combination and
open the door. Remove the pin then insert it again to change the
combination. "
Sounds like all you need is the pin. (which I assume fits into the hole in
the side)
thedevil...@gmail.com
> <thedevilsmilk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
But he won't give it up. He's already told me that. The hole leads
right next to the metal bar that actually locks the door into the
safe. I think The override might hit the solenoid and open it, but I
don't exactly know how to do it without that key. Can one be
homemade?
thedevil...@gmail.com
Also, I'm assuming there has to be SOME way to change the batteries
from the outside in case they're dead? Any guesses?
thedevil...@gmail.com
> On 28 Apr 2007 15:41:58 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Please help if you can. Like I said, I'm more than willing to pay for
> >the services, I just can't get it done locally because it my locksmith
> >won't touch it. I can provide serial and everything to prove it's
> >legit and not stolen as well.
>
> find someone local to you, and talk to him.. he can call the
> factory and get it open then..
>
> --Shiva--
I spoke with the factory last night and he said they don't bother with
the m70's anymore and he doesn't even think they have the
documentation for it.
Stormin Mormon
sell it on Ebay as a boat anchor.
The link to SAVTA was good, find someone who has experience with
these.
I've also bought broken down stuff on Ebay, and so I know what
it's like.
--
Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
.
<thedevil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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: I spoke with the factory last night and he said they don't
:
thedevil...@gmail.com
<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> At this point, I'd suggest drill and tap for some screw eyes, and
> sell it on Ebay as a boat anchor.
>
> The link to SAVTA was good, find someone who has experience with
> these.
>
> I've also bought broken down stuff on Ebay, and so I know what
> it's like.
>
> --
>
> Christopher A. Young
> You can't shout down a troll.
> You have to starve them.
> .
>
>
> news:1177805827.6...@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> :
> : I spoke with the factory last night and he said they don't
> bother with
> : the m70's anymore and he doesn't even think they have the
> : documentation for it.
> :
Okay, I got a light down the hole in the side of the safe. It
confirmed leads to the end of the bolt which has a half circle notch
in it that looks like it's designed to be pulled to yank the bolt
back. Can anyone recommend me a tool to do so? It needs to be long and
match that half circle on the end I assume?
Steve
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There are directions on the ebay ad in the question and answer section to
set a combo. Whether it will reset the combo if it's already been set is
anybody's guess. Never done one of these myself. You found one on line. If I
were you I would contact the seller of that one and see if he will give or
sell you some shots of the inside with the inner door panel removed. And if
possible include a ruler in the shots so you know scale. Then you either try
the opening of it yourself or provide your local locksmith with the photos
and let him do it. These are not high or even medium security safes. It is
probably a fairly easy drill and repair job. I would not expect any hard
plate.
Steve
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one. Offer to pay.
Steve
<thedevil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The door locking bolt is PROBABLY deadlocked until the electronic lock
retracts it. The ebay seller gives combo setting instructions. Try those or
contact him or her and ask them to eleaborate. Offer them a few bucks for
information and/or a couple good pictures of the door with the panel off.
It's hard to get better info than from somebody who actually has the safe in
question sitting in front of them.
Punch Job
<thedevil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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thats right then drill a hole 3/8" or bigger through the side of the safe
inline with the bolt and punch it back. You have a picture of the door open
and you have the safe so you can figure where the bolt is based on that. It
will damage stuff but you will have it open. These things are so cheap they
aren't going to stop any B&E guy anyway. Force it open and get a real safe.
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pgreen...@gmail.com
I don't have the same model but I had to open my Elsafe after a power failure and luckily had the two tools needed to do so. I used the small screwdriver to remove the keypad and saw two holes behind it in the door. I inserted the key, which had a semi-circular head, into the larger hole and turned it 90 deg anti-clockwise. This must have removed a plate preventing full access inside the smaller hole. I then inserted the screwdriver fully into the smaller hole and turned it clockwise which drew the door bolts open.
The screwdriver is a fairly common type with a hexagonal head. The key is customised but you might be able to rig up something to turn the receiver through 90 deg. Good Luck!
