Safe from Major Safe Company will not open with the combination
Bob DeWeese
> year ago and since then they have not been able to open the safe with
> the combination. The model # is 3020, I was wondering if there is a
> anti theft deterrent that has to be reset after the safe has been
> moved or any maintenance that has to be performed after moving this
> safe. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
> tia
Sounds like a relocker fired during the move. Unfortunately, to "reset" it,
you need the door open. I hate to hear stories like this. This could have
been avoided by having the container moved by an experienced safe mover. A
safe mover would have removed or at least secured any relocking devices.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it could cost you several hundred
bucks to have it drilled open
I wish you luck. Stop back and let us know how it turns out.
Bobby
--
Bob De Weese, CML
http://www.bearlock.com
Bear Lock & Security Service, Inc - A full service locksmith company
specializing in professional, cost effective solutions
to your Commercial, Residential, Safe, and Automotive Security Problems.
DonBonJovi
angeles California. They moved it from there old business site about a
Harvey Arkawy
First make sure that the lever is not putting a bind on the locks bolt.
Then turn the dial left stopping on the first number the fourth time you
come to it. Then turn the dial right stopping on the second number the
third time you come to it. Next, turn the dial left stopping on the
third number the second time you come to it. Now turn the dial SLOWLY
to the right. As you pass the number 10, you should feel a change in
the movement of the dial. Continue past zero and the dial should stop
somewhere around 86.
If this doesn't open the safe, try subtracting 1/2 number from each
number. If still unsuccessful, try adding 1/2 number to each number.
Remember....When all else fails, call a Locksmith who is trained in
opening safes.
Good luck.
Harvey
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Joe Kesselman
> Sounds like a relocker fired during the move.
Quick check: When you dial the combination, then turn the dial, does the
dial stop turning as normal, or does it keep turning as if the wrong
combo had been entered?
If it stops, Bob's probably got the right answer.
If it keeps turning, there are other kinds of malfunctions that the
vibration of shipping could have provoked. Try the trick of dialing a
bit high or low -- it probably won't work but if it does it'll save you
a considerable chunk of change. If that doesn't do it, call in an
expert.
Remember, a safe is _designed_ to resist being opened. If we could give
you simple instructions to open a malfunctioning safe... it wouldn't be
a safe.
--
------------------------------------------------------
Joe Kesselman, http://www.lovesong.com/people/keshlam/
Appearing November 11 at Walkabout:
DOUBLE BILL: Garnet Rogers and Mustard's Retreat
http://www.WalkaboutClearwater.org/coffeehouse.html
Peter
wrote:
>I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it could cost you several hundred
>bucks to have it drilled open
>I wish you luck. Stop back and let us know how it turns out.
>
>
Look on the bright side. The 'fence' may be binding in the
combination lock and some hammer taps (applied by someone who know
what they were doing) may soon have it open.
I was victim of this once, and a safe expert from the factory (of all
the luck it was just down the road) soon had it open.
Peter
Henry E Schaffer
It probably has a "relocker" device. If this has been activated
(which can easily happen when moving a safe if it is dropped or banged
around,) then it does need to be "reset." The problem is that this
can't be done without getting into the safe. This sounds to me like a
job for a safe expert.
--
--henry schaffer
h...@ncsu.edu
Bob DeWeese
> move 'so far' and stop... THAT is a lockout... there can be 2
> different ones.. one on the combo lock, and one on the door bolt
> work.. each are an entirely different problem and method of
> attack.
Well sort of.....
If the dial stops where it usually stops and the handle _starts_ to turn but
doesn't, it's a relocker (located outside the combination lock and locks
into the _bolt work_).
If the dial stops, but stops sooner that normal, then it is a relock
_trigger_, located _inside the lock. Gardall uses an S&G 6730 (or the ILCO
knock-off). The relock trigger on these locks will engage if the back cover
of the lock loosens up a little. Sometimes a knowledgeable person can get
it to open by *CAREFULLY* hitting the safe _NOT THE DIAL!!!!_ with a
**dead-blow** hammer while turning the dial. (Not as simple as it sounds).
Either way you're going to have to call in a professional before you close
it again.
Bobby
--
Bob De Weese, CML
http://www.bearlock.com
Bear Lock & Security Service, Inc - A full service locksmith company
specializing in professional, cost effective solutions
to your Commercial, Residential, Safe, and Automotive Security Problems.
---------------------------------------------------------------
--Shiva-- <shiv...@pcis.net> wrote in message
news:8v2j7l$c33$1...@63.78.119.62...
> lets make absolutely certain the combo is being dialed right
> first...
> you got how many numbers for the combo?
> 3?
> 4 complete turns left, stopping at the first number..
> turn right, stopping when the second number comes up the THIRD
> TIME
> turn left, stopping when the third number comes up the SECOND
> TIME.
> right to perhaps 75 or so. if it goes that far, it didn't work..
>
> 4 numbers, then add this instruction. turn right at least 5
> times, stopping on first number.
> left, stopping when 2nd number comes up the 4th time
> right, stopping when the 3rd number comes up the third time
> left, stopping when the 4th number comes up the second time...
> right to open
>
> as a LAST chance, if you are absolutely certain you got the
> combo right.
>
> write it down.
> example is below
>
> 10 20 30 this is the combo
> 09 19 29
> 08 18 28
> 07 17 27
> 06 16 26
> 05 15 25
>
> 11 21 31
> 12 22 32
> 13 23 33
> 14 24 34
> 15 25 35
>
> try ALL of these.. if it OPENS, DO NOT shut the door... get it
> reset/fixed/cleaned
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
DonBonJovi
combination today and opened the safe on the second try it was not
stuck or any thing. The reason I thought it was internally locked was
because all the other employees in the office tried to open it and had
failed. The safe had been around for along time. And probably the
owner was the last one to open it. I think what they were doing wrong
was they would pass the first number three times and than stop on the
second number. Any way It was a 3 digit combination. And the Safe was
empty. We will just use it to put data Cds in any way. Again thanks a
lot you guys always seem to know the answers. I buzz threw here once
in awhile and read some of the messages. I have a hard enough time
keeping up with the post related to my profession which is design work
using Auto cad Mechanical Desktop.
todd
need a special interior for that.
Ray Hearn (junk mail box)
serviced very badly. The longer it is ignored before service= the more it
will cost to drill open or just repair the day it dies.
Regards
Ray Hearn
"todd" <wsut...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:3A1C7D34...@earthlink.net...
Charley
haha
todd
burglary.
the major safe the guy has is a fire safe which by the way is not rated for
burglary attack it is rated for fire. most fire safes keep the inside below 350
deg. but if you use the safe for media you need a special interior to keep the
temp. below 125 deg. and keep the humidity below @ 80% so the major safe he has
will not protect his data. hahahahaha
in...@collectionagencyinsandiego.com
> charley , I take it you are not a locksmith. the post had nothing to do with
> burglary.
> the major safe the guy has is a fire safe which by the way is not rated for
> burglary attack it is rated for fire. most fire safes keep the inside below 350
> deg. but if you use the safe for media you need a special interior to keep the
> temp. below 125 deg. and keep the humidity below @ 80% so the major safe he has
> will not protect his data. hahahahaha
>
> Charley wrote:
>
