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Anyone here tried Sun's Virtual Box.

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Avid Fan

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Dec 27, 2009, 9:08:10 AM12/27/09
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Sounds like an alternative to VM ware or dual booting.
http://www.sun.com/software/products/virtualbox/get.jsp

Anyone tried it? What did you think?

J.O. Aho

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Dec 27, 2009, 9:22:12 AM12/27/09
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I have some testing experience from it, it's far less intruding to your system
than vmware, but one drawback IMHO is the settings, which don't allow you to
add more USB devices to be defined for the running guest.

It's slower than running KVM (which I only run on a headless machine). It's
simple to use, but useful when needing to test something in a desktop environment.

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//Aho

Avid Fan

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Dec 27, 2009, 9:54:24 AM12/27/09
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I remember a lecturer of mine using a Mac. He had something like a cube
that rotated. He had Linux running in one face of the cube and Mac OS
on the other faces.

I realise this was only fancy graphics for multiple desktops that we
have in Linux.

From what you said I got the impression that Virtual Box is far more
limited.

ray

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Dec 27, 2009, 10:53:45 AM12/27/09
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Yes. OK.

J.O. Aho

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Dec 27, 2009, 12:41:23 PM12/27/09
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Limitation is manly in the running environment, compared to KVM where you can
do some changes in the running environment as adding hard drive, CPU and some
memory changes.

I'm not that good on vmware, only used play for a while before I installed
Linux as native on my work machine. At work it's Xen that is the
viritualization we use, at home it's KVM which rules, except this weekend when
I needed to run the VM on a machine with the right hardware, when it was VBox
that was used as it's a lot more work to get vmware to work on Linux and
couldn't register to download the vmware server.

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//Aho

Stefan Patric

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Dec 27, 2009, 3:50:02 PM12/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:08:10 +0000, Avid Fan wrote:

I've used the Open Source versions from the Fedora Linux repositories for
a few years. GUI makes it easy to set up and use, and perfect for the
average computer user. It suited my needs to test Linux distros, and run
Windows 2000 and XP for those times that I require them without
rebooting. However, I would not recommend VB Open Source if you plan to
run multiple virtual servers. It's really not designed for that. Maybe,
the licensed Enterprise version. But I've never used it, so I can't say.


Stef

Robert Tomsick

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:51:24 PM12/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:08:10 +0000, Avid Fan wrote:

Provided you don't need any fancy VM stuff (hot migration, etc.) it's
great. I'd say that for pretty much any desktop VM usage it's a
perfectly workable solution. I've used it on Mac OS X and Linux hosts
for Windows, Linux, and other guests and have no complaints.

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The Meh

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Jan 13, 2010, 4:30:14 PM1/13/10
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:08:10 +0000, Avid Fan wrote:

I dont think its awesome, but its not bad either. Its great if you want
to do some quick testing etc. I wouldnt use it to host my (production)
virtual servers though.

Personally I use it for educational purposes. setup a server/clients to
test stuff. It works great for those purposes.

Hartmut Rießbeck

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Jan 23, 2010, 7:41:26 AM1/23/10
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The Meh wrote:

Hello Meh,

I installed Virtual Box and i like it.
You can install virtual PCs, for Example to test other Operating System
(Ubuntu, XP OS/2, ..).
My old Computer runs under XP, now i can test XP-Programs under real XP-
Conditions.

But : the installed Graphic-Card is not served and i cannot work with USB.

I also tested VMWare, but it costs too much.

Sun's Virtual PC is an alternative system for virtual Machines and it works
stable.

Hartmut

J.O. Aho

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Jan 23, 2010, 7:52:58 AM1/23/10
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Hartmut Riessbeck wrote:

> But : the installed Graphic-Card is not served and i cannot work with USB.

USB works, you may need to setup rules for which USB devices VB should
automatically pass to the guest operating system.

To get some accelerated graphics, you need to install the guest drivers, VB
service those as a cdrom image from where you install it.

For direct access to a graphics card in a guest, you will in theory need
special hardware which supports this, you will need to hide the graphics card
for the host. VB don't have support for this, but it's possible to do so with
Xen and KVM (at the moment works only with NICs, controller cards, but not
with graphics cards).

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//Aho

Michael John Ruff

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Jan 23, 2010, 8:42:15 AM1/23/10
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Hello

VMWare Server is free, only the workstation is a cost product. If you
get install VB from the SUN site and accept their license then USB will
work.

Mike

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