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OnzaQueen

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Jul 21, 2001, 12:23:45 AM7/21/01
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This is basically a follow-up to Cougar's survey about friends in RL and their
reaction to your furriness. I was surprised to read that so many of you have
lost good friends when they found out you are furry, or that you fear the
hatred of the community. It surprised me because, where I live, I think the
worst you would get is just some people thinking you're weird. Like I said in
response to Cougar's survey, my old friend thought it was silly, but she still
respects my interests, and that was the worst response I have gotten from
anybody. I have been wondering if the place where you live affects the way
mundanes perceive furry-lifestylers. This ties together the friends survey with
the survey about urbanization, plus maybe we can learn from each other. Here
we go:


1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
person?

3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
etc.)

4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
average person?

7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
town about sex?

8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
have?

9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?


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OnzaQueen

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Jul 21, 2001, 12:42:55 AM7/21/01
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I said (yay! I said it! Me, me, me!)
Anyway, I said....


>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?
>

The ones that I have told don't mind it at all. The ones that I haven't told
would probably think I'm weird, but I don't think they'd turn against me for
it.

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?
>

I have never been to a furry social event, though I now have the opportunity to
do so, thanks to Camstone Fox! I have not met him in person yet, though. No
one in my circle of friends is Furry, with one possible exception, but I
haven't seen him in a while.

>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)
>

Fairfax/Annandale is suburban. It's weird: it seems pretty urban to me; there
are a lot of people (I don't know the population) but there are also a lot of
trees and parks for such a relatively urban place.

>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?
>

Washington DC; Idunno, maybe 12 miles?

>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)
>

Very, VERY diverse. In fact, the new neighborhood I moved into is just like a
mini world-tour!

>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?
>

I think it's too diverse to generalize. PROBABLY the majority religion is
Catholocism or some other Christian thingy, but there is an extremely wide
range of how religious people are, and of the religions themselves. There are
also plenty of people who are hard-core atheists.

>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
>your
>town about sex?
>

About homosexuals, I'm not sure. This ain't Central Park, but I have seen cars
with gay bumper stickers. About sexual open-mindedness, there are several porn
stores and at least one BDSM club that I know of. But overall, I think most
people keep that stuff to themselves.

>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?
>

Cats and dogs are everywhere. People have caged pets too, but nothing like
goats or anything, and nothing real exotic.

>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?
>

There are plenty of birds and squirrels, but there is also an overpopulation
of deer! Also raccoons, opossums, foxes, and I have even heard that coyotes
have slowly been encroaching upon this county. I think I heard one the other
day.

>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?
>

I have had neighbors who decapitate harmless snakes (bad, bad!) and one
neighbor was even trying to relocate squirrels and opossums. What a weirdo!
But in general, nobody seems to hate the animals.

Conclusion: I live in a very diverse, tolerant city with plenty of animals.
That explains why I haven't run into people who hate furries.

Cougar

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Jul 21, 2001, 1:33:23 AM7/21/01
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>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

So far my friends and some people at work know about my furriness. my friends
are all okay with it, they respect me for my furriness,they even make "nice"
jokes about cougars,hairballs, tails and the such.
The people at work on the other paw, well lets just say I overheard some of
them talking about me,I heard something along the lines of "that guy is
dangerous" "hes one strange guy" I am the boss of these people so getting
talked about does come with the territory. 'sides it doesnt bother me.

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?

none of my RL friends are furry, and I havent met any furs in person.
Although I do have my suspicions that some people I meet are furry. I dont push
it with them though.


>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)
>

My" Ville" rather Marriottsville is rural, so rural no one knows where its at
unless you tell them the name of the city next to it which is Ellicott City.
dont know population numbers but there is the really rare cougar that lives
there. oh thats me !


>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?
>

Baltimore City about 35 miles away

>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Hmm. since I dont see/talk to my neighbors that often its kinda hard to anwser
that one.

On a good note: my neighbors are actually starting to talk to me *Hurray* I
think they realized I'm not as bad a person they thought I was.


>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?

see #5

>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
>your
>town about sex?

Dont know.

>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?

very common dogs/cats


>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Deer, foxes,squirels, etc.


>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

I believe they treat them well.
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Amy-Neko

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Jul 21, 2001, 2:53:27 AM7/21/01
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OnzaQueen wrote:

1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

The ones that know are pretty indifferent, and the ones who don't would
probably just assume me a strange young lady if I randomly came up and told
them. *grin*

2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
person?

Well, I have met one other Modesto fur, *waves hello if he's reading this* and
with my friends, I assume one of them is the combo between a wolf and a mouse
(>O.o<;;) but I haven't asked him about it yet.

3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
etc.)

Ugh... Modesto has an approximate population of 191,600 (Although it increases
every day... we have those new model homes springing up all around the city
like mushrooms...all those Bay Area folks moving into Edward Scissorshands-like
houses...) It's one of those "hick towns", or so I'm told by folks living in
San Francisco and Los Angeles *grins* Most have never heard of the place!

4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

I'd say that San Francisco and Sacramento are a pretty equal distance from
Modesto.."The distance to the California state capital is 63 miles. (as the
crow flies)" hehehe..

5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Well, we do have a lot of people of Hispanic origin living here, so I guess it
would be mostly white and Hispanic, with some of the Asian and Black community
as well... All in all, it's pretty diverse...for a small city.

6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
average person?

I'd say that the Non-Denominational churches are the biggest here. We do have a
lot of Mormons, Catholics, and Baptists as well. The average person is quite
religious. (I've been called a "devil worshipper" and a "vampire" on several
occasions...and that's not even due to furriness *sigh*)

7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
town about sex?

I do know quite a few homosexual inividuals in Modesto, and I've seen several
pride flags, stickers, and magazines in the stores. The town as a whole has all
of one "adult" store (that I know of) and possibly a couple of strip clubs...
But I think our town is much too small for stuff like that...yet. Heh.

8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
have?

Fairly common. Mostly cats, dogs, birds, mice and fish. Some own ferrets
too... ^.^;

9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Crows, the occasional squirrels, mice, smaller birds... stuff like that.

10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

*shrugs* Err.. I guess they're spiffy with the wildlife. >^.^<;;

~Amy-Neko~
"Mmmm...Digi Candy..."

cat

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Jul 21, 2001, 3:53:46 AM7/21/01
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On 21 Jul 2001 04:23:45 GMT, onza...@aol.com (OnzaQueen) purred:


>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

Some see it as a bit odd but not threatening or all that bad.
Most of the rest figure "That's Hollywood for you". However the
perceptive ones see it as quite natural.

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?

I have VERY few actual friends, though\ i have numerous
acquaintances. Of those close friends, none are furry (my late Wife
was, though}. I know maybe a dozen or so furs in person and those
through my first official furry event, the Fur B Q.


>
>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)

(Jack Webb voice on) This is the city. Los Angeles, California
(Jack Webb voice off). I don't know the population but it is a big
place.


>
>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

I live right in the middle of it


>
>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

LA is predominantly Hispanic (at least those are the figures I
have seen) with a large White minority, followed by Black and Asian
populations. there are people here from all over the world, so it is
very culturally diverse. In many neighborhoods you will see very few
signs in English. You don't need a passport to tour the world here. A
bus pass will do.


>
>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?

Of that I have no idea. I am sure my following is not in the
majority (or even a large minority) I suspect Catholics are the
majority religion just based on cultural origins of most of the
population. Who can ever say how religious someone else is since it is
a very internal thing?


>
>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
>town about sex?

LA is Hollywood and Hollywood IS sex. Aside from some
political asininity about an adult film maker being
prosecuted/persecuted in an attempt to curry favor in Washington, DC
this town is VERY broadminded. Tolerant of gays? This is the film
industry we are talking about. Gays are not a persecuted group (at
least for the most part) here. Sure there are places and groups where
being openly gay would not be safe, but for the most part the town is
pretty broad minded.


>
>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?

I see a lot of dogs around but that means little since most
other pets stay inside and are not seen all that much. there must be a
LOT of them, though since there are a lot of animal rescue and
production groups around (and the world's only self described Animal
Rights Vet, Ken Jones {a great guy and fine vet})


>
>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Wildlife? Oh, you've met my neighbors. OH! THAT kind of
wildlife. Mostly feral cats but I did see a coyote near downtown a
while back.


>
>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

I haven't really noticed any reaction either positive or
negative.

cat

FoxWolfie Galen

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Jul 21, 2001, 6:04:52 AM7/21/01
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On 21 Jul 2001 04:23:45 GMT, onza...@aol.com (OnzaQueen) wrote:

1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

I've never had a bad reaction from anyone in real life. I've had a few
problems from other furries who wished I wouldn't call myself a furry, but
never a single bad reaction from a non-furry. Most people are either
curious and ask questions, or they just don't have enough of an interest in
it to care.

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
> person?

Most of my RL friends are furry. I know, and have met, several dozen
furries. I've visited or had them visit me, and I have many that I've
routinely spent time with at conventions. Some friendships are mostly over
the phone or through email, but I've met the vast majority of those I am
friends with. I only have a few friends that are not furry, though they
seem very furry-like to me.

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
> city, etc.)

I live in Erie, PA. The population is around 90,000. I should add that most
of my furry and non-furry friends are not from within my city. Many were
initially made online, and the rest were friends made before I moved here.
I lived in a college town of around 12,000 before a moved here. Many of my
friends are from when I was there and they are still around.

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Erie is two hours from Buffalo, NY, Cleveland, OH and Pittsburgh, PA. I am
not aware of the existence of furries in Buffalo. There are some around
Pittsburgh and all through Ohio that I know of.

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

I'd say about average.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

I'd guess that it would be Catholic, though I am not really sure. I don't
perceive that the average person is very religious. I only see evidence of
it on Sunday mornings, but that doesn't say much for what those same people
are like during the rest of the week. I know that there is a lot of
vandalism, drinking and drug-use in the area. That, of course, doesn't mean
those people can't be religious too, but it often indicates that they
probably aren't.

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your town about sex?

Erie is very conservative. It does have an active gay community, but they
aren't very loud. Sex itself is want the community is against. Things like
adult bookstores and dance clubs are always being battled in the news.
Hardly anything like that exists here and whenever something threatens to
establish itself, the community rushes in the get it banned. I've never
seen homosexuals specifically targeted, but anything having to do with sex
is equally not tolerated here.

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

I see mostly dogs and some cats. That is about it. So many other types of
animals are illegal, like raccoons or skunks. I can't have pets where I am
living. :(

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Mainly birds. I have never seen a raccoon or fox yet. I saw a couple
squirrels and a bunny a few blocks away, but never anything but birds
within sight of my house.

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

I don't see any reaction, unless someone's dog poops in another person's
yard. Then neighbors become enemies and it even makes the news sometimes!

I wouldn't say that all neighborhoods are just like mine. Erie is large
enough that there are surely many different views on wildlife, sex,
tolerance, crime, etc.

Kamau

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> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?
>
Furry? Who's furry? *grin*
Well most people know I'm strongly interested in lions but they don't know
just how strongly. I'm not very open about it(furry) unless there's an
interest shown. I'd say, based on the only reaction I've gotten, they'd
just see it as another strange thing I'm into.

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know
in
> person?
>

None locally. I've got about a half dozen real good fur friends within a day
drive (you furs know who you are *wink*) and some other fur friends
scattered across the country, nope better make that the world (thinking of a
UK fur friend in particular). Number of furs I know in person, that would
be hard to count. I'd guess a couple dozen or more.

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
city,
> etc.)
>

Rural. Farming country. Population is less then 1000 (I just checked the
census figures for grins). I'd say there's more then that when I think of
the area rather then the town but certainly only a couple thousand spread
over many miles.

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?
>

Albany NY. Its about 30 miles to the west and has a population just over
100,000. It's also the state capital so that makes it a bit of a strange
place at times.

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)
>

We're not very diverse out here. Mostly white population. A number of
families have been here for generations. We're far enough away from city
that it not a convenient commute. People are pretty open over all but I'm
not sure they'd look too kindly on real strange behavior.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?
>

Mostly Christian; mix of Catholics and Protestants. Good number, better
then half (good for these days) are church going. There's a lot of neighbor
helping neighbor so from that perspective they live out their faith.

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
> town about sex?
>

Now that could be a problem. I've got to say I am not aware of anyone here
that is openly gay. I think for most people here it's one of those things
you just don't talk about in public.

> 8. How common are pets in your community / what type of animals do people
> have?
>
Lots of pets. Dogs and cats mostly but we do have a number of horses here as
well. Of course being a farming town there's plenty cows with some pigs and
sheep on some farms. We've also got a place that raises Llama and Alpaca.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?
>

You can find just about any kind of wildlife that's common to the Northeast
here. We've had some bears doing bird feeder raids recently and I know
there are other large predators around. No big cats though *sigh* but we've
got bobcats and even a few lynx. Most common are squirrel, raccoons, deer,
woodchucks and all manner of birds.

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?
>

It's just part of what they're use to seeing and living with. You always
drive aware that a deer could jump out at any time and there's always road
kill to be found no matter how short the trip. (Heck as a lion I'd hardly
have to go hunting. Just do road patrol in the morning.) They do a fair
amount of hunting here as well but most of the folk here do it for the meat
and skins, not just sport or head hunting. Even those who do it for sport
give the kills to those who can use it. We're not exactly the rural poor
but there are a number of families who are needy and seem to fall between
the crack of the state programs.

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Warren Forest

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Jul 21, 2001, 3:24:22 PM7/21/01
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> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

So far, nobody has freaked out. Everyone I've told seems to go, "Ah, that
explains it..."

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know
in
> person?

None that I know of. However, I once caught my cousin looking up R-rated
Anime on my computer, and according to the history folder he was also trying
to find the terms "fuzzy" and "fuzz" as well. Hmmm... I haven't talked to
him about the subject yet, but by a strange coincidence, the first time I
heard the term "furry" I forgot what it was and tried "fuzzy" and "fuzz"
too...


> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
city,
> etc.)

Roughly half and half. Langley City has one of everything now, but the
Langley Township is still full of farms and agriculture. I don't know the
population, but like I said, it's big enough to have the jumbo mega
Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Staples, Office Depot, etc...


> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Vancouver, BC. I can't remember the distance, but it's about a 30 minute
drive.


> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Predominantly white, with the most common minority groups being East Indian,
Asian, and Aboriginal.


> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

Christian. We live in a well known "Bible Belt" area, and in the last
federal election voted over 70% in favour of the right wing candidate.
However, the community itself seems mainly Agnostic in its attitudes.


> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
> town about sex?

Mainly nobody cares. The average Christian is against homosexuality and
open sexuality, but they're pretty passive about it so there's little actual
conflict. After all, we're Canadian, and "passive" is what we're all about!
;-)


> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

In order of frequency: Dogs, cats, horses, sheep, cows, rabbits, llamas,
ostriches, and who knows what else. Everybody has at least an acre of land,
and many people have some form of mini-farm going.


> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Lots of birds including many impressive birds of prey, deer, racoons,
possums, coyotes, presumably foxes (I've never seen one, but the farmers
complain about them), otters, beavers, and lots of other rodents.


> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

We're fine with it, but the people in Vancouver are currently freaking out
because there have been 3 recent incidences where coyotes have approached or
bit small children. The city folk are calling for a massive eradication
campaign (as if it would work), but the government officials are rightfully
ignoring them. I'm sorry, but when I go for a walk at night, I frequently
find myself smack dab in the middle of a coyote howl fest, and nobody around
here is worried. What's so tough about not leaving your child alone? The
predators I'm worried about don't have fur...


--
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you'll also need to include "Fur" in your subject line. - Warren


Dragoon

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Jul 21, 2001, 5:36:08 PM7/21/01
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> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

They don't react.

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know
in
> person?

None

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
city,
> etc.)

My city is fairly large, Lexington KY. I live in the suburbs.

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Lexington is fairly major and I live in it, so no more than 5 miles.

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Homogenous to the max.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

I wouldn't know, probably Baptist.

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
> town about sex?

I wouldn't know, I don't know any homosexuals really.

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

Fairly common, common animals for pets, dogs, cats, etc.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

We have rabbits that live in our yard, and chipmunks, etc. We've even had
racoons around before...

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

Well, I can't speak for the whole community, but my neighbors either shoot
at it, w/ a pellet rifle, or trap it, and put it out into parks...

Dragoon


Brian Sutton

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Jul 21, 2001, 5:35:45 PM7/21/01
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>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about >it)?

Worst I've gotten is indifference but furry means something slightly different
to me.

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many >Furrs do you know in
person?

A bunch.

>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate >population, name of city,
etc.)

Very rural for its size, ( one million ), San Antonio Texas is the tenth
largest city in the country.

>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you >live from it?

That would be Houston and it's about three and a half hours away.

>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? >(This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Very I guess.

>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how >religious is the
average person?

Catholic

>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how >open-minded is
your town about sex?

I've heard that San Antonio has a gay population that rivals San Francisco but
I've seen little evidence of that. Hmm, city council is always trying to close
down the titty bars that's about all I know.

>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of >animals do people
have?

Common, dogs, cats and horses.

>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Deer, raccoons, possoms. I've seen a ringtailed cat once.

>10. How do the people in your community react to the >wildlife?

They either feed it or eat it.

Brian Sutton
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Alley Katt

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Jul 21, 2001, 9:52:29 PM7/21/01
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> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

Most people usually don't understand it or even know what "furry" is. When
you say furry in this area they would probably think of Robin WIlliams.


>
> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know
in
> person?

I have met/know only 2 RL furs. I have met others online, but only 2
face-to-face.
<waves to Wolfy & Relee>

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
city,
> etc.)

The town right next to where I live (and where I generally 'hang out') is a
bigger town, but not huge by any means. I have no idea on the population but
it does have 4 McDonald's. lol

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

The nearest major city would have to be Detroit. It's about an hour's drive
south of me.

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

There's actually quite a few different cultures nearby. Most being of
Spanish decent or African, but the population from the Middle East and from
Greece is rising rapidly.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

Christianity abounds I'd say due to the number of different churches
surrounding me. How religious is the average person? It depends on the
person it seems. Some have deep roots in their faith while others scoff at
religion.

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
> town about sex?

It seems to be fairly oipen-minded as there is a gay bar in town, they are
obviously employed in various fields, and the very openly homosexual people
are all over. I don't think there's a huge controversy surrounding their
lifestyle actually.

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

Pets are everywhere. The most likely ones are cats (due to it being a
largely rental area), next would be dogs. I know lots of people have
fishtanks (they're considered pets, yes?) and many are lizard and snake
owners.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Squirrels, chipmunks, oppossums, raccoons, deer, cats (well they do run
wild), rats, skunks, fox, and all kinds of birds and waterfowl. there are
wolves somewhere around as well but I'm not sure where...

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

Err... I'm not sure I understand the question. They get upset when they hit
a deer running out into the road (but I think that has more to do with the
destruction of their vehicle).

-Alley
www.blackwolfents.com

Alley Katt

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oh!
I had meant to add that last week me & some co-workers were uptown watching
a parade we'd had. A float went by with an area's team mascot aboard. I had
mentioned something about his tail (he's a type of cat after all) and also
mentioned about how some other teams had a couple of mascots with them - one
mascot was in full uniform whilst the other only had a head. My gripe wa the
one with the head should've at least had a tail as well.

Well (to make a long story short), one of my co-workers asked why I was
making a big deal out of the fact it didn't have a tail. I merely said
"Well, if it were me I'd insist on at least having a tail. How coudl you
not?" My best friend (who is also a co-worker) just slapped her hand across
her mouth to stop herself from making any comment. The one who was asking
was a young person and has absolutely no idea about my furriness. She may
very well not even know what furry is (lol). She just didn't get the fact I
*really* liked the tail, I supppose. But I sure changed her mind. I told her
"Tails are cool and I think everyone should have one. I, for one, would love
it if I had a tail." She looked at me incredulously so I added, " What would
you think if I wore a tail to work?" Look of shock on her face. "I think I'd
have to add at least a pair of ears just for good measure. After all, what's
a tail without some cute little ears to match?" After a bit of time
contemplating, she said, "I think it would be fine if it were a time of year
you could do that - like Halloween, but any other time woudl be just plain
weird." To which I responded, "Look where we work..."
(it's a group home for those of you not familiar - which I know is a lot of
you<giggle>)

I think I should make a point to wear a tail to work one of these days when
she is working. And perhaps have a set of ears on hand just for good measure
;)

-Alley
www.blackwolfents.com

Tiado

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OnzaQueen wrote:

> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

A lot of people don't know what to make of it, some thinks it's a phase
I'm passing through and that I'll get over it, and others (like my
family and close friends) fully accept that I view myself as a furry.

>
> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
> person?

Zero (0), so far, but it's because I haven't really been places.

>
> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
> etc.)

Lethbridge, Alberta, a fair size city at about 70000 people, I would say
the area that I'm living in right now is fairly urban even though there
are lots of parks and green spaces placed throughout the entire city,
and we have large parks and natural areas that are located adjacent on
the west side of downtown.

>
> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

The nearest major city to Lethbridge is Calgary, it is about 130 miles
away.

>
> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

I all kinds of people from all cultures and ethnic backgrounds, so I
guess that there is a lot of diversity in this city.

>
> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

Christianity is probably the majority here, but there are places for
people of all faiths and religions to go.

>
> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
> town about sex?

There are a lot of homosexuals here but I don't think that people are
very tolerant about it, but as time passes I've noticed that people seem
to be getting more tolerant.

I'm not totally sure how open my city is about sex.

>
> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

I see lots of people with dogs all the time, and I'm sure that there are
just as many cats, if not more.

>
> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Probably rabbits, all kinds of birds, including a hawk that I hear all
the time, there are deer sometimes, and I even seen a coyote near my
place.

>
> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

I think the people in my community like the presence of wildlife, but
you will always have those few people who like to bitch about everything
so, not surprisingly, they bitch about the animals and they want the
city to do something about it, also after recent reports of coyote
attacks in the Vancouver area of British Columbia, these people want the
city to get rid of all the coyotes.

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Onza wrote in:

>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

They generally react as normal for anything of this nature. Most of my friends
are rather accustomed to me becoming philosophical, etc. and they pretty well
accept anything I say as well thought out and reasoned. Which is a curse, as
few try to stop me when something isn't so well thought out.

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?

Got one! Yay! Only one RL friend of mine is furry, but ah well.

>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)

The town of Bartlesville hovers around 35 000 people.

>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Nearest major city is Tulsa, probably around 30 miles from Bartlesville.

You know you're in Tulsa when you see the signs that say "Up With Trees" on the
medians and near the highways accompanied by the pygmy forests we are trying to
get to grow (possibly to curb drunk drivers through attrition) Funny thing is,
the signs are wood. It is because wood is more environmentally friendly,
aesthetic, and cost-effective than metal or plastic signs. Very important
because they need every dollar to go as far as possible to cover the city with
trees in the areas that were leveled for highway construction.

>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

This is an odd question in this area. It all depends. Mixed race people are
ubiquotous, dependent on the race. Everyone is pretty well the same, though.
Just about everyone here seems to be part Native American, including myself,
some Cherokee on my mother's side. Apparently not much, though, as I'm not on
The Rolls. So ethnic diversity is high and low. Any visible race is a little
bit shunned and we do have a "bad side of the tracks." Funny thing is, the city
is still split dead center on the tracks.

>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?

Christian and just religious enough to say so and quote something to you.

>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
>your
>town about sex?

Really depends here, too. Oddly enough, no one really cares if you keep it to
yourself and out of the public. Generally our fairly conservative town is
amazingly even with its conservatism. When they say no Big Brother in the
bedroom, they mean that about everyone's bedroom without exception. People
don't like being told what to do with their life from people off the street
(not to say that the proper shepherd cannot coerce them in the right direction)
so they refrain from telling others for the most part. Once a church group
protested an NC-17 movie. The town agreed that they group was to be considered
"pushy," "busybodies," and "anti-business." Which brings me to sex:

We've got a red light district, everyone knows where it is. No one shuts it
down, but no one acknowledges it. To steal a word from a popular poster: at the
Bartlesville Inn, love is "ho-sale." Just keep it off the streets and no one
cares. General rule.

All other sex they tell you to use condoms, etc. before you make any unwanted
children the state will need to take care of later. No abortions. That is a
rule. If you get an abortion, you go directly to hell. Do not pass St. Peter,
do not collect salvation. Play by the rules and you're in fine shape and most
everyone will like you.

>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?

Common, dogs and cats mostly.

>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

We have an owl, a group of deer, birds, squirrels, ducks from Jo Allen Lowe
Park, and a couple of foxes that range from Hillcrest Country Club (it's
expensive, it's exclusive, it needs a remodel badly) and Kane Hill down to my
neighborhood.

>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

To place things in very good perspective:

Someone hit one of the Jo Allen Lowe ducks as it was crossing the road. In lots
of places that would be a minor incident, a little sad but a little unimportant
to the community. You don't hurt the Jo Allen Lowe ducks. Chandra Levy made
second page and the local newspaper mourned one of the city's sacred ducks.
They dominated letters to the editor, city council Q&A meetings, and the Off
the Cuff page. Now one of the town's main roads (Hillcrest Drive, yep, same as
the country club) is closed and the installation of the "duck tunnel," a
walkway tunnel that has been expanded to include room for pedestrians as well
so that the ducks do not have to cross the road to get to the pond on
Starfellow Farm (which sits effectively in my backyard and right across from
the country club).

If it seems a little bit of an insane reaction, allow me to explain. Both the
duck pond and Starfellow Farm belonged to the Lowe family. I am uncertain which
Lowe Jo Allen is or was, but the park was dedicated quite a while ago with its
pond and retinue of ducks. People took to the duck pond immediately. The local
pre-school made weekly trips, old ladies would sit and feed the ducks (in fact
the day old bread store probably made 15% of its sales to people feeding
ducks), children would feed the ducks. They've always been extremely people
friendly ducks. No one hurts the ducks, if I'm not mistaken there is an
enormous fine for it as well. But Starfellow was not part of the park, so the
ducks would cross out of the park periodically to the pond on the otherside of
Hillcrest. A sign was immediately erected and there have been few problems
outside of the ocassional traffic delay. Now that the city has lost one of its
beloved ducks (and believe me, they are beloved ducks) the people are kicking
in more money to build the tunnel than they usually allow the council to spend
for animals.

The biggest reason to stay here is that once you think you have the whole town
categorized and written off, they show up en masse to surprise you. Low crime,
etc. are great, but these occassional spurs to action nearly make a lot of the
problems that go on almost tolerable. Haven't had as much corruption recently,
either, maybe things are swinging back again.

To sum up Bartlesville today:

Crime and corruption down, ducks up.

David Fox
- -
Take some advice from Kansai Airport: when everything else around you is
sinking, try to keep your head above water.

ICQ# 62603307

FlepKitsu

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Onza asks the following questions, and the little red fox who cant shut up
answers thusly:

>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

Very positively: generally with curiosity and acceptance.

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?

I only have one RL friend who is furry, and for him its not a lifestyling
issue- just an interest. As he lives in another city and I am unaware of the
presence of any other furs in my town, I dont know any "in person."

>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)

I think its around 100,000. Not a big place, really, but not small either. San
Angelo, Texas.

>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

I suppose that either San Antonio or Austin could be the answer here. It takes
approx. 3-4 hours to get to either one.

>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Id say its about average, really, as far as diversity goes. Or perhaps I should
say that its average for the region.

>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?

Id have to say that the baptists would win this one. They have a church almost
literally on every street corner.

>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
>town about sex?

Well, it doesnt come up much- mostly I think because the gay people in this
town are probably afraid of the attitude thats prevalent in much of this part
of the country. I dont mean to offend anyone, but this is bible-belt country,
and even people who are not overly religious grow up around the attitude that
homosexuality is not "normal" or "right." It sad, really, but its also true.
And it doesnt help that towns like San Angelo, which are not large and dont
tend to grow quickly, are so far from towns like Austin, where there is a
greater variety of people, cultures, and lifestyles, because when people are
exposed to something enough, it helps them to acclimate to its presence better.


>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?

fairly common- and there is a wide variety of more or less domestic animal life
here because there are a lot of ranches.

>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Though I never see them, I know there are raccoons and foxes because I see the
tracks all the time. There are also a lot of rabbits, beavers, possums,
armadillos, deer, and squirrels here. Of course, some of those arent actually
"neighborhood" animals, but you dont have to go too far...

>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

I am continually surpised by the reaction of the average person here. I get to
hear a lot of sad things at the place where I work. This is hunting country. Im
not saying that all hunters are bad or have bad attitudes, but around here it
seems like most people have little or no respect for life if it isnt human.
Having a beer and killing something seem to be regarded as amusing friday night
pass times here. Very little sympathy for anything thats not human or isnt
livestock.

Flep Kitsu

'What a strange chemistry goes on within those dark, winding passages! There
must be a mighty quiver of life in that mysterious labyrinth to break forth
into such beauty as this.' Myrtle Reed, Love Letters of a Musician, 1899

Bahumat

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> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

I'm choosy about who knows, since these days furry's getting a (larger)
bad reputation. All the people I've told so far had no issues with it,
generally since I didn't make a big confessional deal out of it.


> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
> person?

Oish. Toughie. Offhand... I'll estimate about 24. Edmonton's a great
town. :D

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
> etc.)

About 500-600 thousand, Edmonton, one of the most sprawling towns in
north america. (Prarie land is cheap, I guess?)

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Edmonton, the city I live in. We're capital of Alberta.



> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

It's the liberal home of alberta, which means... it's a liberal center
in a very conservative province. I imagine it averages out to being
'slightly conservative without being frighteningly fundie'.



> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

Oish, another toughie. Split between catholic and mormon, I imagine. The
catholics, not particularly devout, the mormons, very devout but
generally focusing on rural lifestyles.



> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
> town about sex?

It's... better than calgary, anyway. Still a fairly closeted town. We
had our first Gay Pride parade this year. (Finally!)



> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

Extremly common. Nearly everyone has a big back yard (did I mention
prairie land is cheap?), so I venture to say the majority of households
have cats or dogs.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Squirrels, song birds, drug dealers, and drunken homeless folks. (I live
in a shitty-ass neighbourhood, one of the worst in edmonton. Most of it
is fairly nice, but I'm close to the downtown core.)



> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

Probably throw beer bottles at it. *sigh* Ah well, at least the people I
hang around with are sane. Just wish my neighbours were. :p

Whoolf

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onza...@aol.com (OnzaQueen) wrote:

>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

At school someone has found some of my furry images (one of the
so-called 'leaders of the class') and unfortunately they decided to
declare me as totally mad for about two years. Many years later I
showed a colleague one of my furry-pics and he changed into a
hateful fanatics until he had to change his working-place some
month later. I don't know why, but I never found friends who liked
cats or dogs and therefore I didn't tell anyone about my furryness.
At least my cousin is calling me 'Gepard' (cheetah) in her e-mails.

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?

No one.

>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)

Very urban. Hamburg has a population of approximately 1.7 million.

>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Hamburg is the biggest city here.

>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Here are many people from all over the world with many different religions.

>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?

I think mostly Protestants and Catholics.

>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
>your
>town about sex?

During the last 20 years it has changed to a more open-minded status here.
Homosexuality is mostly accepted and there is even a big parade here every
year.

>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?

Every day I see some people with dogs and in my backyard there are some
cats, although free-running cats are not very appreciated here.

>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

I proudly present at least one squirrel in my backyard. ;)

>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

It seems there aren't too many people here who really care.

Whoolf
--

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but the cheetah is the prince

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"OnzaQueen" <onza...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010721002345...@ng-fj1.aol.com...
[snip]

> anybody. I have been wondering if the place where you live affects the
way
> mundanes perceive furry-lifestylers. This ties together the friends survey
with
> the survey about urbanization, plus maybe we can learn from each other.
Here
> we go:

Your urbanization survey's in my friend survey! Your ... Ah, forget it.

>
> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

Most (at school) are like "Whatever, you freak." I mean when you live in a
house that eats under a pentagram every night, and belong to another that
holds a drag contest every year, liking a little...uh, "tail" on a girl is
no problem. I'm a weird freak, but no less is expected of Skurves and Darbs.

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know
in
> person?

0, but I've heard stories that a few roam around.

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
city,
> etc.)

OK, now that I see my mistake in the Urbanization thread, I live at a school
w/ a 1000 undergraduate population, in a town with 133,000 people.

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Pasadena. And I live in it, near the San Marino border.

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Pasadena is pretty mixed, I guess. However, my school is largely white and
asian, with about 10 percent of the people minorites, and about 10 percent
of the people foriegners. And on the sex side, it is about 3 boys for every
girl.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

The school itself is mixed, with its share of Agnostics/Atheists,
Christians, and other religions, but over all people are very lax as far as
religion goes. It's hard to say exactly, though, because I live in a house
where the majority of people are agnostic/atheists, and I don't get to spend
that much time in the more Christian houses.

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
> town about sex?

Very open minded, at least in the two houses I live in. You'll hear such
fine words as fag and homo fly around, but never to insult an actual
homosexual or bisexual person. If your door swings a different way, that's
no real problem at all.

As far as general sex goes, there's very little going on, but people don't
really care about what does happen, unless they are involved in someway.

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

People have them, but the average person does not. However, there are
animals about. Cats roam the hallways looking for food to swnidle/a warm bed
to lie on/a room to explore. People also have such cool animals as snakes
and ferrets.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Besides squirrels, stray cats, and various birds? Not much that I know of.

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

It really depends on the person. If a cat walks into a dorm room, the
average person may try to shoo it out, but he won't try to harm it. Some
people on the other hand, will give it some petting and other such acts
perpetrated on cute things. As far as birds and squirrels go, people leave
them alone, or they may shoo them away.


m.copper

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Hi Whoolf,
I'm glad you're back. Purrr . . . =^_^=

- -
Sabbath


Skytech

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<Sharpens up his #2 pencil... eeew.>

>
> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?
>

Mild amusement. Sometimes curiousity.

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you
know in
> person?
>

Two friends were converted and I know scads of furrs from various meets.

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
city,
> etc.)
>

Norristown at 29K seems fairly small. I guess urban but a good mix of
woodland and fields.

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?
>

Philadelphia at about twenty miles, I think.

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This
should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)
>

We have a good mix. This includes my street which has proven very
friendly and communal.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is
the
> average person?
>

Don't know.

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded
is your
> town about sex?
>

Don't know. Haven't heard and major scandal or court case.

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do
people
> have?
>

Lots of dogs and cats, otherwise I can't see inside.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?
>

Lots of variety of birds. Skunks, raccoons, possums, deer that I've
seen. Someone once said they saw a fox in the area. I assume the zoo
doesn't count.

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?
>

Hands off if they also behave. I'm sure there's an occasional rabies
scare.
--
La gvatanta vulpo (The vigilant fox)
Skytech
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Iberian Wolf

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Jul 22, 2001, 10:32:42 PM7/22/01
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> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

Nobody truly knows about me being furry... I've never had a good
reason to say anything about it yet. :-) Most friends and family just
know that I like wolves a lot. I did tell some of my closer family
members about Anthrocon last year, and they all thought it was pretty
cool from the way I explained it.
If I were to explain me being furry, I'd expect that most family would
react positively. My non-fur friends are all people that I work with,
and considering that I'm in the military, I'm not sayin' nothin'. :-)

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you
know in
> person?

I'm met a bunch of furs in person, via furmeets and AC. A few are good
friends, and I talk to most of the one's I've met online.

> > 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population,
name of city,
> etc.)

Dover, Delaware... 30,000 is the average population. Not real big.

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from
it?

While Wilmington is pretty big, I'd say Philadelphia is the nearest
major one. An hour and a half away. Baltimore, MD is about the same
distance.

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This
should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

There's mostly a white population. African-American makes up maybe
10-15%, with a scattering of many others.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious
is the
> average person?

Haven't paid any attention. :-p

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how
open-minded is your
> town about sex?

Don't really know / This place is a little on the 'prudish' side.

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do
people
> have?

Mostly dogs and cats. Some horses and who knows what else.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

LOTS of rabbits. There's a fair amount of deer as well, and I've been
told that there are some foxes about. And there's the skunk that I
invariably see when I go jogging at night.

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

For the most part, they either want to shoot it or don't pay it much
attention.

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>Hi Whoolf,
> I'm glad you're back. Purrr . . . =^_^=

Yep, Couldn't stay away any longer.
*smiles*

alex_...@zensearcher.net

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>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

Well, most people don't know what a "Furry" is, and those few I have told
think it's more fandom than lifestyler (not that they would know the
difference). I just get more of a "that's kind of weird" comment before the
conversation returns to roleplaying games.

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?

I have my suspicions about a few people, but for the most part I have little
to no contact with other Furs.

>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)

Well, Cornelius used to be a small town, but with all of the bank takeovers in
Charlotte, it's just one big suburb, now.

>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Charlotte is perhaps 25 miles on the highway from Cornelius to Downtown

>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Well, Charlotte has "the fastest growing Hispanic population in the U.S.".
There's fairly strong diversity there. However, Cornelius is almost entirely
either "upper-middle-class, middle aged white male bankers" and their
families, or anyone who's rich in the state (NBA/NFL/NASCAR).

>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?

The entire state is in the dead center of "the Bible Belt", an area of the
South known for its rabid Christians. I don't think that there are 3
non-Christian/Catholic churches of any kind anywhere in the county. However,
I have also heard Charlotte refurred to as "the Bigot Belt", if there's any
indication of attitude there. I fursonally have recieved threats of physical
harm and eternal damnation for being agnostic (from 3 Boy Scouts). Fun.

>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
>town about sex?

..I have no clue, but I suspect its not something you want to talk about
around here.

>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?

I have very limited social contacts to know, but cats are extremely common, as
are dogs, and one of my friends told me that he was housesitting for a couple
with rabbits, chickens, and ducks as well(in a suburb, no less)!

>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Stray cats/dogs, skunks, most common birds, squirrels, etc. Plus rumors of
Coyotes.

>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

I don't exactly know, and with this particular crowd, I'm not certain that I
want to.

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onza...@aol.com (OnzaQueen) wrote in message news:<20010721002345...@ng-fj1.aol.com>...

This ties together the friends survey with the survey about
urbanization, plus maybe we can learn from each other. Here we go:
>
>
> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?
I debuted my dalmatian fursuit to my fire department which is the
closest I've come to even insinuating that I'm furry. They took it
very well and are now pretty proud to have it along as it seems I've
increased the clout and PR of the department. Granted, I chose a
pretty inoculous and obviously a readily acceptable mascot costume,
but that was for a reason...I love to wear it and be furry in an
accepted environment. :) Otherwise...I haven't told anyone who isn't
already furry.

>
> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
> person?

About half of my RL friends are furry. The other half just know I'm a
fox afficionato. :) I know a ton of furs, but maybe two dozen...well
make that three or four dozen in person...I've been to cons don'chya
know. :) (*Waves to all the furs he's met!*)


>
> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
> etc.)

Aspinwall, PA is a small suburban town less than a mile from the City
of Pittsburgh. It has a population of around 3000.


>
> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

The nearest city is Pittsburgh, PA and as I said, I can look upon it
from the back of my house...It's just across the river. :) Now
downtown P'burgh is probably 5 miles away.


>
> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

My little town is not ethnically diverse...Oh sure we do have people
of other nationalities and color in town...But they are few and far
between. My town is pretty much Italian, German or Slovic. Old steel
workers and their families.


>
> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

The majority religion is Catholisism and the average person goes to
church because they were brought up that way. To do otherwise at this
stage of the game would provoke concern over their spiritual well
being. :)


>
> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
> town about sex?

Sex!? In Aspinwall!?? How scandalous!! It's a wonder new babies are
born. :) Homosexuality is still a male put down as it was in high
school and must be defended against at all costs.


>
> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

Dogs and cats abound in the community!


>
> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Near my house alone are a small herd of deer, wild turkey, ground
hogs, rabbits, squirrels, mice, moles, rats, skunks, raccoons, and
even a lone grey fox has been seen.


>
> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

We put wire mesh over our plants so the deer don't eat them...we
carefully consider our flower gardens and hedges so that they are
"deer resistant." Cement blocks cover every garbage can lid.
Otherwise...wild life seems to be a curiosity or a nusance.

Antar000

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> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

My friends that know I'm furrydon't really care, but are a little
uncomfortalbe, because it represents the "death" of the old me, as I
have found myself...I'm happier now, and i don't know if they get
that...

> 2 How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
> person?

I think that one of my friends is a dragon, but I'm not sure about
it,I want to talk to him a little, but He's out of town...

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
> etc.)

Mundelein, IL, a medium town maybe 40 mi. out of Chcago, with about
25,000 people

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Chicago, about 40 miles away

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

The town is almost half hispanic, but generally, there's a "wrong side
of the tracks" kind of feeling to hispanics, but not from me. There's
also a lot of asians, but they're not discriminated at all...



> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

The town is almost all Catholic and more than half the town goes to
church regularly (that's a lot, I think. Actually, if the Nazis had
taken the Vatican, there was a chance tht the Pope would come to
Mundelein...funny story...

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
> town about sex?

My town is very close-minded about sex, and if someone ever came out
in our town, I think that they would be ostracized on a whole...I
think that the media plays a big part in that...

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

Many people have dogs or cats and some have birds or small rodents as
well.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

There are a lot of small birds and assorted small rodents, and
sometimes there are opossums, turkeys and turkey vultures, red-tailed
hawks, deer, coyotes, and one blue heron that lives on a pond near my
house.

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

They usually don't...Ummmm...People get annoyed but only set live
traps...

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>Survey: Furry-friendly geography

1. At work, its sort of an amused tolerance right now, they respect my
'changes' tho' and I respect their right to be puzzled by things they think
they are too old to relate to. :o)

2.The only RL friends (furiends) I have are Furs. I'm lucky to live in an area
with a lot (50 or so) of active Furs. (thankful for it every day :o)

3.Boulder CO. 150,000...nestled up against the Front Range, Boulder is a small
city with a small town atmosphere.

4. Denver... 25 miles away.

5.Incredibly tolerant (nickname for Boulder...The Peoples' Republic of...)
incredibly diverse...Its a college town with a huge population of 60's types
who settled here
and have been tinting the town's mindset ever since.

6.No real religion holds precedence, We have it all from Baptists to Tibetan
Monks. :o)

7.Boulder citizens led the fight against Amendment 2,(hate legislation cleverly
disguised as no special rights legislation), taking it all the way to the U.S.
Supreme Court to get it struck down. Before that, the city was among the first
to have a local
law in place against discrimination by sexual preferrence. Boulder also has a
'Couples' ceremony and registration Gay couples can do. :o)

8.Funny, Boulder touts itself as a pet friendly city then almost no place lets
you have a Dog
if you are renting. Lots o' Dogs still here in the city tho'. :o) (and Cats)

9.I live up at the north edge of the Boulder valley, right by the mountains and
a herd of deer is a regular sight in my neighborhood along with Raccoons,
Skunks, Foxes,, the occassional Mountain Lion and Bear. :o) (Squirrels, don't
forget all of the Squirrels)

10.Most of us who have been here a while love the abundance of animal life in
town, Newcomers take a while to get used to it but they do eventually or they
move east to Broomfield, Louisville or Denver.

Thanks for the opportunity to respond, OnzaQueen.
Painless Wolf
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Cougar

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>Painless Black Wolf

-snipped but read

-> the occassional Mountain Lion. :o)

WOW! have you ever seen one in the wild??

That would be sooooo cool!!

BillCat

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OnzaQueen wrote in message <20010721002345...@ng-fj1.aol.com>...

>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?
Varies. Some with disinterest, some with "Oh, that's just Bill being wierd
again." some with "concern", some who completely ignore it as if such cannot
exist in their world ...

>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?
Only those whom I've met since rediscovering my furish self. Except for one
wolf who is stuck in his head. An old friend whose being just screams
"wolf", but he does not accept it for intellectual reasons.

>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
city,
>etc.)

Pop. 3900 & falling. Freeland PA. Forming coal mining town in the
westernmost end of the Poconos mountain range. A bit too busy for deer to
show up on my doorstep, but they are a few hundred yards away. Actually,
I'm outside the town limits.

>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. The drive to there (via interstate highways) takes
anywhere from 30 to 60 minutes depending on what part I'm going to.

>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Not very. In the four years I've been living here, I once saw one black man
crossing the street (at the only traffic light.) Never saw him again.
There are quite a few European-descent communities each with their own club
(Polish club, etc. etc.)

>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?

Various Christian denominations. Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox,
protestant. There's a church or a bar on every corner. More than a few
bikers. Sort of like a religion in very general sense.

>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
>town about sex?

Varies. Not open.

>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?

Lots of dogs. A few cats. Horses not too far away. Some folks raise fowl
in their yards.

>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

If I walk for half an hour, I can be in the region of any wildlife native to
Pennsylvania except for elk, bobcat, and otter. Heard some coyotes the
other night. Yea!

>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

It's no big deal. There's hunters, tree-huggers, nature-appreciaters, folks
who wouldn't know a deer from a moose, etc. The area was strip mined and
deep mined for coal. So there is still a lot of the man-over-nature thing
going on.


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1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

No one knows about it yet...I'm scared to tell ppl

2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
person?

I don't know any other furs yet but hopefuly that will change soon


3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
etc.)

Very rural, but its a big city too. Over one million one of the 10 largest
cities in the nation. San Antonio, TX

4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Well the nerest is Austin I guess, abuot 45 minuets away

5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

SA is a very diverce city, that's one of the reasons I like it here

6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
average person?

Defently Catholic, and this is (in my opinion) a very religious city

7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
town about sex?

Actualy I beleave this city dose have a slightly large gay population, so I
think it is tolerent

8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
have?

Dogs are very common

9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Possims, and other native texas wildlife. One can usualy see a herd of cows

10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

I think its cool to see most of the wildlfe, I don't knwo about others though.


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Cougar wrote:
>
> >Painless Black Wolf
>
> -snipped but read
>
> -> the occassional Mountain Lion. :o)
>
> WOW! have you ever seen one in the wild??
>
> That would be sooooo cool!!
>
I saw two last year but none so far this year.This dosent mean they
havnt seen me ;o)
ZW

Ami noMiko

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Yay! I'm getting caught up again! (I should just not leave my computer for
any length of time. Catching up with this newsgroup is hard.) Oooo... A
survey!

<<1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?>>

I got a lot of blank stares, at first. Now, my friends just accept the fact
that inside, I'm a mouse. I actually don't think they're suprised, especially
not my sister. Last weekend, while some friends and I were camping, I got
asked alot of questions about furries. I think my friends are genuinely
interested in understanding. One of my friends even said that if she had to
pick a phenotype, it would be a polar bear. And my sister informed me that she
would be "sorry it's so cliche"... a housecat.

<<2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
person?>>

None of them. *sigh* It sucks living 2,000 miles away from everything.

<<3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
etc.)>>

Pretty urban, I'd say. I live in Reno, one of the two large cities in Nevada,
the other being Las Vegas (although Elko is catching up). I'm not sure of the
population.

<<4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?>>

Besides Reno? Lesse... Lake Tahoe is an hour away, but that's not a major
city. Sacramento is about two hours, and Las Vegas is eight.

<<5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)>>

Hmmm... Not very. Reno has a white majority, followed by hispanics. We also
have quite a few asian students going to the university.

<<6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
average person?>>

Majority religion? I have no idea. We've got churches for everything here.
We also have a Buddhist temple. :) The average person is either extremely
religious, or anti-religious. And then there are those of us in the middle who
don't care either way. There don't seem to be many casually religious people.

<<7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
town about sex?>>

We have a pretty high tolerance of homosexuality. Quite a few of my friends
are gay, actually. We also have a few discreet gay bars.

Well, seeing as how Nevada is one of the only states with legalized
prostitution, I'd say that the attitude towards sex is laid-back. Of course,
it's illegal withing Reno and Las Vegas city limits. But, we have rather quiet
adult videostores and some louder X-rated theatres downtown. Nobody really
seems to care that they're there, or who goes in them.

<<8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
have?>>

Extremely common. We have the usual cats and dogs, of course. Then we have
ferrets, iguanas, snakes, rodents, birds, and frogs. :)

<<9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?>>

Not much near my neighborhood. Quail and doves, groundsquirrels... There are
rabbits on the outskirts of town, where all the new housing developments are.

<<10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?>>

They pretty much don't react to it. You get the kind of people who feel the
birds in their backyards, but seeing as how wildlife is pretty scarce and hard
to find in the desert (the animals are shy and blend in really well), most
people don't have to worry about it.

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LaloFox

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OnzaQueen previously purred...

> I have been wondering if the place where you live affects the way

> mundanes perceive furry-lifestylers. This ties together the friends survey

> with the survey about urbanization, plus maybe we can learn from each other.
> Here we go:
>

> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

No one where I live or work knows.



> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
> person?

None of either, as yet - being a newbie. One reason for coming here
was to learn if any Homesteaders live within reasonable visiting
distance, or if they know other furs who live near me.



> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
> etc.)

That question requires a multi-part answer. I live in a very rural
part of Centre County, PA known as Penn's Valley - some of my
neighbors are Amish. The closest 'hamlet', about a mile and a half
away, is Farmers Mills; the PO address is Spring Mills but there's a
larger town closer: Centre Hall. The nearest town of appreciable size
is State College (15 miles away), home of Penn State and the "Nittany
Lions". The student population of PSU alone is over 40,000.



> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

Pittsburgh wins by virtue of being an hour's drive closer than Philly,
but I lived in the Philly 'burbs for decades and don't know Pittsburgh
at all.



> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Penn's Valley is typical white Appalachia: about as un-diverse as you
could get, if not actually inbred. State College, on the other paw,
is extremely diverse because of the university, including many
foreign-born undergrads, grads and faculty.



> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

Immediate surroundings: various fundamentalist Christian sects (I
almost said "cults"). State College has all the mainstream
denominations, as well as Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists, and
probably a fair amount of Wiccans.



> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
> town about sex?

I know one openly lesbian couple in Penn's Valley, but no gay men -
but there's a thriving and uncloseted gay community in State College,
as you might expect. The attitudes about sex in the Valley manifest
themselves in a high rate of unwed teenage pregnancy, which appears to
be accepted as part of life here. Otherwise, there's a huge
university, and all the nascent sexuality that goes with it.



> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

It's farmland: dairy and beef cattle, horses, pigs, chickens, ducks,
geese, etc. There are a few "specialty ranches" within a reasonable
drive: llamas, emu, elk, bison. A neighbor on an adjoining property
keeps a heard of red deer in a fenced pasture. Pets run the usual
gamut of domestic dogs and cats.



> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

My home is at the very foot of Brush Mountain (they call the ridges
"mountains" in these parts); Penn's Creek runs through it no more than
a mile dowstream from its source: a spring welling up from a cave.
There's a private wildlife refuge adjoining. I can walk to the creek
and its wetlands in two minutes; it takes about an hour to climb to
the highest point of Brush Mountain. Most of the wildlife is
understandably shy. I've seen herds of whitetail deer in the front
yard, rabbits all over, groundhogs, muskrat, squirrels and teo species
of chipmunk; heron, redwing blackbirds, redtail hawks, buzzards,
goldfinches, cardinals, and a lot of other birds I don't know... I'm
told there are two species of fox on the land around me; reds in the
lowlands and grays on the ridge, but I haven't been lucky enough to
see them yet.



> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

As you might expect, there's a large percentage are hunters. All of
the hunters I know eat their prey. There's also a fair-sized
conservancy movement in the Penn's Creek watershed.

Interesting survey!

Lalo

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On 30 Jul 2001 11:18:52 -0700, lalo...@yahoo.com (LaloFox) purred:


>> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?
>
>Pittsburgh wins by virtue of being an hour's drive closer than Philly,
>but I lived in the Philly 'burbs for decades and don't know Pittsburgh
>at all.

Philly, eh? I lived in Lower Southhampton (just outside
Philly) for a number of years. My late Wife was from South Philly.
Of all the places I have lived in the US, I have the fondest
memories of the Philadelphia area.

cat

LaloFox

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cat meowed:

>
> Philly, eh? I lived in Lower Southhampton (just outside
> Philly) for a number of years. My late Wife was from South Philly.
> Of all the places I have lived in the US, I have the fondest
> memories of the Philadelphia area.
>
> cat

We could have been neighbors, depending on timing... Langhorne is
where I lived, in the borough and in Middletown Twp. I also spent
four years in Philly itself: three in Center City and one just west of
Penn, in an enclave of SF fans and authors, and RP gamers (if there
were any furs among them then, I didn't know).

*tailwaves*

Lalo

Gingercat

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"OnzaQueen" <onza...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> This is basically a follow-up to Cougar's survey about friends in RL and
their
> reaction to your furriness. I was surprised to read that so many of you
have
> lost good friends when they found out you are furry, or that you fear the
> hatred of the community. It surprised me because, where I live, I think
the
> worst you would get is just some people thinking you're weird. Like I
said in
> response to Cougar's survey, my old friend thought it was silly, but she
still
> respects my interests, and that was the worst response I have gotten from
> anybody. I have been wondering if the place where you live affects the

way
> mundanes perceive furry-lifestylers. This ties together the friends survey
with
> the survey about urbanization, plus maybe we can learn from each other.
Here
> we go:
> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?

Probably best summarized as "Oh yeah, that. So, how've you been?"

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know
in
> person?

*counts* Five or ten? I don't count meeting as knowing, and I don't count
knowing as friends. Friends are people I feel comfortable crying in front
of.

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of
city,
> etc.)

300,000 in Ottawa proper, technically all the municipalities merged so I
think
the population's about a million or so.

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?

We *are* the nearest major city. :)

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)

Note: I'm going to treat the people I hang around with voluntarily as my
community; I don't see much of my neighbours, and I don't hang out with
people
I go to University with.

Culturally, most of the people I know are people I met because they're in
the
GGP (goth/gamer/pagan) crowd, with a few political activists and SCA memebrs
in
the mix. Overwhelmingly western (largely modern north america, with a heavy
Indo-European influence on the religions) and ovreall tending slightly
towards
the liberal.

Ethnically, I think predominantly Canadian.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?

I think the people who consider themselves pagans are slightly in the
majority
(I am so *not* going to try to break down the different paths :) ). Some
Christians, a few agnostics or atheists. Overall I'd say that the people
who
are religious take it fairly seriously, and those who aren't don't slag them
(at least not that I've heard).

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
your
> town about sex?

I have no idea. My community doesn't seem to mind much if you're straight,
gay,
bi. As for Ottawa in general - *shrug*. I missed the Pride Parade, but
everyone
seemed in a good mood afterwards, so I'm assuming it was not a traumatic
experience involving hissing spectators.

As for sex - again, I don't know. Last I heard the law which allowed women
to go
topless in public was still on the books. If anyone considers my personal
preferences weird or amoral, they at least have the decency to not call me a
slut
or a freak to my face. *shrug*

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?

Lots of cats.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?

Rabbits, near the transitway and queensway. Urban birds. Squirrels.

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?

Squirrels and birds tend to be part of the scenery, rabbits are rarer and so
are more worthy of note.

Gingercat


Darkpaw

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>Yay! I'm getting caught up again! (I should just not leave my computer for
>any length of time. Catching up with this newsgroup is hard.) Oooo... A
>survey!

Good thing you posted this. I wanted to fill this out... Ranting about my
area would be good.

><<1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?>>

Some think its funny, and others just think I'm strange. Most accept it and
think I'm just weird.

><<2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?>>

0, zip, diddly squat, but then, I only have two RL friends as is...

><<3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)>>

Very urban, because I live right outside of Detroit, which is almost 1 million
people there... There is no such thing as 'woods' around here.

><<4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?>>

Detroit, less then a minute.

><<5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)>>

Not very. I live right next to Grosse Pointe, center of rich, high society
white people. It sucks. Other groups are slowly starting to infilitrate...
Like African Americans and oriental. The community seems split over the
African American encroachment, with half for more diversity or just not
caring, and the other half is against it secretly. As for the oriental,
no-one seems to really notice. I personally wish there was much more
diversity.

><<6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?>>

Its all christianity, and maybe three or four islamics... But almost everyone
goes to some form of Christian church.

><<7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is
>your
>town about sex?>>

There is no tolerance for homosexuals at all, and this is what really pisses
me off about this city. I don't think an open gay would last very long here,
as they would be harassed to no-end. There are a few closeted ones here, but
most want to get out ASAP. As for sex in general, its not talked about at all
by adults or anyone, but its quite accepted and talked about in the high
schools and teenager crowds. Adults and older residents are very uptight and
don't approve. But there is a rise of younger people coming into the
community, and the sexual attitidue is becoming more liberal. I just hope
that more tolerance will be given to homosexuals and other stuff. I find
myself correcting anyone who makes any form of discourterous statement against
gays. Really, I hate this town...

><<8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?>>

Rather common, but only in the form of Cats, dogs, and the occasional fish.
That's it.

><<9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?>>

I have lots of birds in my backyard, with many types of finchs, sparrows,
and other small birds. Squirrels and rabbit's are common as well.

><<10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?>>

Well, some people mistreat the squirrels, and you find the as roadkill
somewhat often. Other then that people ignore it, except for the occasional
bird feeder...


Darkpaw

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onza...@aol.com (OnzaQueen) wrote in message news:<20010721002345...@ng-fj1.aol.com>...
>
>
>
> 1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?
>
I suspect they think I'm strange.

> 2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
> person?
>

The only one I know is my sister.

> 3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
> etc.)
>

My town is rural, about 12,000 population

> 4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?
>

The nearest major city is Omaha, NE, about 100 miles away.

> 5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
> affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)
>

It is mostly caucasian.

> 6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
> average person?
>

Catholic & Protestant; most people here attend church. Our town has
the highest number of churches per capita in our state.

> 7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
> town about sex?
>

I have never seen an obvious homosexual here and am not aware of any
sex shops or gay bars in the area.

> 8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
> have?
>

Pets are very common: dogs, cats, pet fish and birds; small rodents,
horses,the usual.

> 9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?
>

Deer, rabbits, squirrels, voles and mice, snakes, toads, possums,
coons, badgers, coyotes, fox, pheasants, turkeys, lots of birds

> 10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?
>

I think most people enjoy the wildlife and appreciate it. But there
also is a mindset of utilizing animals through hunting and fishing.
Farmers are apt to react negatively sometimes, though. They don't like
it when wildlife competes for the same resources the farmer needs. But
farmers keep pets too: cats, dogs, horses, llamas, donkeys, etc.
>
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Cuddly Battleship Kattywampus

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On 21 Jul 2001 04:23:45 GMT, onza...@aol.com (OnzaQueen) wrote:

>This is basically a follow-up to Cougar's survey about friends in RL and their
>reaction to your furriness. I was surprised to read that so many of you have
>lost good friends when they found out you are furry, or that you fear the
>hatred of the community. It surprised me because, where I live, I think the
>worst you would get is just some people thinking you're weird. Like I said in
>response to Cougar's survey, my old friend thought it was silly, but she still
>respects my interests, and that was the worst response I have gotten from
>anybody. I have been wondering if the place where you live affects the way
>mundanes perceive furry-lifestylers. This ties together the friends survey with
>the survey about urbanization, plus maybe we can learn from each other. Here
>we go:
>
>

>1. How do others react to your furriness (if they know about it)?
>

I'm really *just* starting to open up to it, but really, not anyone
from around here knows.


>2. How many of your RL friends are furry, or how many Furrs do you know in
>person?
>

I've never gone to any furcons or anything, so I really don't know
many. I met a couple Furries at Marcon this year. I met a REALLY
good friend online...we've met a few times in person...he considers
himself furry, but other than him, I don't know any more, IRL.


>3. How urban or rural is your town? (Approximate population, name of city,
>etc.)
>

Institute, WV, 200 households. Although, there is a college in the
middle of this 2 mile long place, we don't count that.


>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?
>

Charleston, WV..I live <5 miles away.


>5. How culturally or ethnically diverse is your community? (This should
>affect how tolerant people are of different kinds of people)
>

Well, 3 miles down the road, you can actually get into Klan territory.
If you go 5 miles in the opposite direction, you can find ghettos.
But anyway Institute itself (which was built on a former "Indian"
reservation, is a small collective of blacks. Although, I find a lot
of them not very tolerant of the non-racist whites. There's a small
population of Mexicans (right in the middle of Klan territory!), and
suddenly, major Japanese companies have started building factories
nearby, so a lot of Japanese are coming to live with us, too.
Charleston has a lot of Indians, too. (And I mean from India)
But overall, I guess I'll say that 90% of this area is "white".


>6. What is the majority religion of your community / how religious is the
>average person?
>

Most people here are Christians...very much so! There are a
collective who consider themselves very proud Pagans, but I really
don't know any of them around here.


>7. What is the general tolerance toward homosexuals / how open-minded is your
>town about sex?
>

There are a lot of homosexuals here. A lot of folks seem to mind
their own business when it comes to this, but there are a lot of folks
who do all the hate crimes and all that mess. (remember, Klan
territory!)


>8. How common are pets in your commnuity / what type of animals do people
>have?
>

Pets are common. A lot of dogs around. You find a lot of the old
ladies with 250 cats in their trailer. Being so close to farm
country, any farm animals are common. A lot of people raising
greyhounds because of the greyhound track 3 miles from here.
There was a guy who had a menagerie of exotics at his house (big cats,
zebras, capybaras, birds...etc..), but he sold them all, and started
raising greyhounds.


>9. What kind of wildlife lives near your neighborhood?
>

Deer are overpopulated, and we're having a bit of a bear problem. But
pretty much, anything you'll find in a deciduous forest region is
here.


>10. How do the people in your community react to the wildlife?
>

No one respects wildlife or the Earth around here. In fact, I can
walk the length of a football field and reach tanks full of the
deadliest chemicals on this planet.. the same ones that killed so many
people in Bhopal, India in 1984. (The sister site of that plant is in
Institute) There's a big problem with strip mining, too. Lots of
devastating floods. Rednecks...too damn proud of their coal...
But even more redneckian, is our new roadkill law, that allows us to
eat anything we [can] hit with our vehicles. . . *sigh* (I can
see why I can't find any furries living here..)

Mr. Cougar

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>Cuddly Battleship Kattywampus

>>4. What is the nearest major city / How far away do you live from it?
>>
>Charleston, WV..I live <5 miles away.

The capital of WV right? not the place off of route 340 where the slot machines
are at?

>There was a guy who had a menagerie of exotics at his house (big cats,

*Cougars eyes grew big at that statement*

WOW!! Bigcats!! Did you ever see them in furson?
-Cougar-
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hunter

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I think I did loose friends as a result of my furriness, I gained more
though. The thing is that some people are not willing to accept us because
although furry is not new, it is not understood, the mundanes would be more
willing to accept us as drug addicts, alcoholics, or gypsies ( a thought of
a goat with an earring) then as furs.

hunter deer

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