Virturalrift's Furvey
virturalrift
It fills me with pride to say, 'Look at me, I am a Fur'. Send me a
message someone.
0) Have you posted a Furvey before? If so, under what name?
Nope, first time. :D
1) Are you male, female or transexual?
Male
2) How old are you?
Well lets just say im 18 for the time being.
3) What zodiac sign are you?
Gemini
4) What year were you born in, and what is your Chinese New Year
animal?
The Year of the Monkey
5) What month/day were you born in?
May
6) Are you left handed or right handed?
Righty
7) What interests/hobbies do you have?
Making movies, music, video games, acessorising
8) What do you do for a living?
Student
9) What talents do you have?
*blush* Umm... creative, caring, happy, loving, good leadership
traits.
10) What annoys you the most, in general?
Arrogance, which may be a condradiction in general but I don't care. I
hate it when people think they are better than you when you know they
aren't.
11) Where in the world do you live?
Down Under. OI OI OI
12) What part of your country do you live in?
Semi-urban.
13) Do you consider yourself to be psychic, in any way?
I did for quite a while then I relised that if I did have powers they
would have shown themselves by now.
14) Do you consider yourself to be of above-average intelligence?
Huh? Nah lol, I'm average.
15) Is your living space (e.g. room/house/apartment etc) furry
themed?
Not since the last time I checked.
16) What kind of music do you like?
Rock, Emo, Alternative, Goth, Metal, Punk, Mainstream. Anyone here
like Three Days Grace or MCR?
17) What do you do to relax/wind down?
Watch a dvd, blinds drawn, air-con on, locked door, MSN offline.
18) Do you draw/write/make furry things?
No, if I could I would ya know?
19) Have other furs seen them?
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20) Have non-furs seen them?
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21) Have they been shown somewhere ? (Avatar, newgroups, web pages,
comics,
fanzines)
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22) Are you a meat eater?
Yes
Being furry
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23) How does furriness influence your life?
Its really the only sort of drawings I like to look at, and some of
the naughty pictures are pretty hot. ^_^
24) Do you think about furriness more than anything else?
Nah, not obsessive.
25) Was your furriness evident from a young age?
Could say that...
26) What do you like most/least about being furry now?
The fact that there are others like us and we can relate to each
other. Makes me feel happy knowing that.
27) What is/are your phenotype(s)?
Wolfs, Demons, Monsters, Gargoyles, Bears, Tigers, really anything
with claws
28) How, and when, did you realise your furriness?
Deviant art. And all those furry pics on there just called to me. And
about a year ago.
29) Was it by accident, or did you strive to discover why you felt
this way?
Accident at first. I thought 'whats with all these animal pictures on
here?' and eventually just became fascinated by them.
30) Do you think that your (human) body resembles, in any way, an
animal?
Not really. My hair kinda looks like a lion's mane lol.
31) Do you think that your personality resembles that of any animal/
furry?
Maybe a mother wolf; hunter, lover, carer, deadly. She would do
anything for her kin.
32) Would you prefer to not feel furry?
Hella no, I feel alive.
33) What kind of furry interests/hobbies do you have?
I regularly vist fchan and like to look at pics of Bowser from Mario
Bros.
34) Do you ever doubt how furry you are?
Sometimes.
35) Are you ashamed/proud of being furry?
Proud is a word I'd hardly ever use, but yes. I am proud.
36) Have you ever worried about your 'furriness'?
Main worry I have is, if I don't find a fur who isn't over the
interwebs.
37) Did you ever think you were childish/weird/confused?
All of the above heeeeeee....
38) Did you every attempt to seek professional advice/write to a
problem
page?
I don't know what a problem page is
39) Have you ever had a furry dream?
Not as yet.
40) Do you have them on a regular basis?
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41) Do you wear 'furry' clothes? (not necessarily fursuits)
No.
42) How do you act furry in public/in private/with friends?
(furry and non-furry friends)
My close friends know that I am a fur and don't have a problem with
it. They think I'm a bit warped though. Lol.
43) Do you collect items relating to your phenotype? e.g. statues,
plushies etc.
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44) Do you collect miscellaneous furry items? e.g.books, magazines,
etc
I got a HUGE collection of childhood plushies that I would never throw
out or sell.
45) Has a major event in your life ever been affected by your
furriness,
or had a furry theme? e.g. a wedding
Nah.
46) Do you think you are furry for a reason, if so, why?
It gives me support knowing I'm not alone. I'm not relegious but I'm
guessing this is what it feels to belive in something.
Being 'truly' furry
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47) What would you most/least like about being 'truly' furry?
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48) Do you ever worry about being furry not being as you imagine?
Not sure.
49) Would you worry about being shunned by society/friends/family if
you
became 'truly' furry?
Of course. no one derseves discrimination for waht they belive or
practice.
50) Would you (given the chance) live in a furry-only world?
For some reason I could see a lot of wars and bullying happening. It
is better to let people make there own decisions.
51) Would you become an animal/furry (assuming you could change back),
given
the chance?
Yeah. It would be a hell of an experience.
52) Would you become an animal/furry (assuming you *couldn't* change
back),
given the chance?
No. Safe than sorry.
53) Do you ever fantasise about being 'truly' furry?
My view of truly furry would be being consumed by the ideal that you
are your fursona. Then again I may be wrong.
54) Describe your furry alter ego.
Umm, I've actually never thought about my one before. I liked to look
at other peoples and see what they were like. Uh, a snow wolf would be
me, although i haven't given it much time.
55) Is your furry alter ego a carnivore/vegetarian/ominvore?
Ominvore
Furry fandom
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56) What furry things do you watch/read? e.g. films, cartoons, books
etc
Fritz the cat, Sonic X,
Religion
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57) Are you religious?
Nope.
58) What religion are you?
Atheist, Agnostic. I kinda belive when we die we are born again as
something new, wether it animal or human, and we have no memories of
our past lives.
59) Do you think that being furry is like a religion?
Yeah. It's soothing and gives me somthing to hold on to.
60) Does being furry make you question your religion/beliefs?
Lol no.
Other people
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61) Are there others in your family who are furry?
If they are they are god-damn good at keeping it a secret.
62) Do you worry about people knowing about your furriness?
Sorta.
63) Are there people who are intolerant of your furry lifestyle?
Not as yet.
64) How do you cope with these people?
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65) Do you know someone who might be furry, but isn't aware of it?
I wish.
66) How can you tell?
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67) Have you ever introduced somebody into furrydom?
I would like to.
68) Is your Significant Other furry?
[i.e. your girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife. Animals don't count!]
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69) Do you think the world would be better if everyone was furry?
No.
The Internet
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70) What newsgroups do you subscribe to?
[please avoid abbreviations like afd, and include a brief
description]
Not sure of the question.....
71) What furry-internet activities do you do?
Deviant art, furaffinity, fchan
72) Do you access FurryMuck (or similar), to live out a virtual furry
life?
Nope.
73) How important do you think the Internet is in your furry
lifestyle?
It freely distributes furry infomation and art. I would hate for fur
to become capitalized with branding and such.
74) Do you access/did you join the Internet just for the furry stuff?
No, I got work to do you know.
75) Do you have your own web page/FTP site?
I gots a youtube channel.
76) What kind of things are on it?
FILMS!!! yay.
77) How did you discover the online furry community?
Deviant art.
Furry community
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78) How did you discover the furry community?
Deviant art.
79) Are you glad that you discovered the 'furry community'?
Without a doubt.
80) How have you benefited from the 'furry community'?
I feel, happier. More at peace with myself.
81) Have you met (real life) furries?
*sigh* No.
82) Do you often go to furry gatherings? e.g. Confurence, informal
gatherings
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83) What activities do you participate with other furries in real
life?
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Animals
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84) Do you own any pets, or have access to animals? (stables etc)
I have 1 wonderful dog, Logan. I named him after Wolverine lol.
85) Would you like to own some pets, or have access to animals?
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86) Do you work / have you ever worked / do you want to work with
animals/furries?
Could be fun.
87) Do you 'bond' easily with animals?
Aww yes.
88) Do you agree with hunting?
Never. I think it's only right to kill when the situation demands it.
e.g. Lost in a desert, someone with a gun to your family
89) Are you concerned about the environment?
Not overly concerd. I have participated in some Clean Up Australia
Day's.
90) About cruelty to animals?
No never. Kill the creature, fine. But causing it to be in an endless
tortue is just evil.
91) What are your favourite kinds of pet?
Dogs and cats. Fun, loyal and relativly easy to take of.
92) Are you interested in real animals as well as furries?
Of course.
93) Do you have a greater-than-average knowledge of your
phenotype(s)?
i.e. do you own books on wolves or foxes, etc.
No.
94) Do you ever get annoyed about how animals (in particular,
your phenotype) are portrayed in fables/mythology?
Uh, nah not really.
95) Have you ever/do you enjoy watching animals in the wild? e.g.
lions
on safari, foxes in your backyard etc
Not as such.
96) What is your least favourite kind of animal/pet?
Mosquitoes. That noise they make when they're in your ear just makes
your neck hairs stand on end.
97) Do you read books/magazines/etc about animal spiritualism and
other
furry lifestyle topics?
No.
Sexuality
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[refers to sexual attraction and activities, plus emotional
relationships]
98a) What is your gender preference?
I'm still a bit unsure of my sexual oriantation but I'm taking time to
figure it out.
98b) What are your sexual preferences and activities?
[ ] Group sex
[ ] Outdoor sex
[ ] Pony play (being tressed up and paraded as an animal)
[ ] TinySex (sex over the Internet)
[X] Human sex (sex in real life with a non-fursuited
human)
[?] Fursuit sex (with, or as, a person in an animal fursuit)
[ ] Zoophile/Zoosexual (with real animals)
[ ] Plushophile (with plush animals)
[X] Toonophile (attracted to cartoon characters)
[X] Furerotica (looking at erotic furry artwork)
99) Does outdoors sex make you feel more furry?
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100) Do you prefer humans, animals, plushies, furries, or are they
equal?
Humans and furries.
101) Is your sexual orientation with humans the same as it is with
animals?
Maybe, not sure.
102) What species of animal do you find sexy?
Monsters or demons, I know they aren't animals but oh well.
103) In what aspects of your sexuality are you open?
Are non-furries aware of your furry sexuality (if appropriate)
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104) Do you enjoy sex with animals and humans simultaneously?
I dont think I would get off on that.
105) Are any of your plushies anatomically correct?
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106) Has your sexual orientation changed as a result of joining the
furry community?
[e.g. turning from hetero to bi, or being hetero but becoming
attracted
to same-sex anthro characters, etc]
Can't say it has.
107) Has your discovery of being furry made you re-evaluate your
sexuality?
Acutally yeah.
108) Do you feel you are more open sexually due to furriness?
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109) Do you enjoy casual sex with furries/non furries?
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110) Do you practice safe sex?
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111) How do your masturbation fantasies involve furries? (if
appropriate)
Yes.
112) Does sex in a fursuit make you feel more furry?
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113) Do you compare a relationship (sexual or not) as being analogous
to a
pack or pride behaviour?
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Dan Skunk
> 58) What religion are you?
> Atheist, Agnostic. I kinda belive when we die we are born again as
> something new, wether it animal or human, and we have no memories of
> our past lives.
I kinda get that impression too, though some furries have dreams about being
animals too.
I had a dream about it before. :)
> 73) How important do you think the Internet is in your furry
> lifestyle?
> It freely distributes furry infomation and art. I would hate for fur
> to become capitalized with branding and such.
I don't think there's any danger of that. Furry is made by furries. There's
no way anyone could buy it and own it.
virturalrift
> > Atheist, Agnostic. I kinda belive when we die we are born again as
> > something new, wether it animal or human, and we have no memories of
> > our past lives.
>
> I kinda get that impression too, though some furries have dreams about being
> animals too.
>
> I had a dream about it before. :)
I dont think I have ever dreamt about being an animal. The closet
thing would be dreaming about the actual characteristics of an animal.
Like stalking and killing prey.
Dan Skunk
"virturalrift" <bum_fl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b037abc5-b3c6-49b8...@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
From what perspective were you watching this behaviour?
virturalrift
> "virturalrift" <bum_fluff...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
It would be my first person killing and taking down animals and
humans. Sometimes I would eat them and sometimes I would just go on a
spree.
Dan Skunk
virturalrift
> Wouldn't that mean you were the animal then though?
Not really. I would be in human form but hunting like an animal. It
sorta scares me when I dream like that.
Dan Skunk
That would be a little strange, actually. :s
virturalrift
Skytech
Welcome to alf, also called Homestead!
Skytech
> like an animal. It sorta scares me when I dream
> like that.
Sounds like you haven't found or accepted your animal side so you see yourself
physically human but behaviorally animal. When you again have such a dream try
thinking who and what you are.
Does wonders for me.
virturalrift
> Sounds like you haven't found or accepted your animal side so you see yourself
> physically human but behaviorally animal. When you again have such a dream try
> thinking who and what you are.
>
> Does wonders for me.
So I should try and lucid dream? Or dream and think about what it
means after? I rarely have these dreams, after I wake up my mind is a
blank about what I dreamed about. Sometimes they come back during the
day after something would trigger them like a word or pharse.
Also how should I think about it. Dreams are such a mystery to me, and
sometimes I haven't a clue on how to interpret them.
(I'd just like to thank Dan Skunk and Skytech for being the first to
approach me. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. If there are any '
lurkies' still out there chuck a reply on this thread, everyone here
is very nice and supportive.
Dan Skunk
> Haha only a tad. What animal are you in your dreams?
I've been a skunk and a dog before.
Skytech
> sometimes I haven't a clue on how to interpret them.
>
Best way to put it is make yourself accepting of the fact. Be aware. For most
people a dream is but a dream. You can't *force* yourself to remember but be
regularly aware it's possible. That way you keep an open mind when you sleep.
I certainly don't remember all my dreams especially the really wacko chaos ones.
There are some that are more... lucid and 'sensible', the ones that flows like a
movie. Those catch my attention and, from experience, I realize I am dreaming.
Now I can vivdly remember it and even tweak it. Because of this I never suffer
full blown nightmares. I fight monsters, walk through fire, breath under water
or in the void of space (hey, I once did a swan dive from a space shuttle all
the way to the ground!!), and either fly or land on my feet when I fall from
great heights.
I think the reason I have so many furry dreams is the concept is on my mind a
lot plus I have a strong imagination that often traslates to words and pictures.
Be creative and aware.
> (I'd just like to thank Dan Skunk and Skytech for being the first to
> approach me. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. If there are any '
> lurkies' still out there chuck a reply on this thread, everyone here
> is very nice and supportive.
Dankon! Vi estas plejbonvena.
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virturalrift
> Best way to put it is make yourself accepting of the fact. Be aware. For most
> people a dream is but a dream. You can't *force* yourself to remember but be
> regularly aware it's possible. That way you keep an open mind when you sleep.
>
> I certainly don't remember all my dreams especially the really wacko chaos ones.
> There are some that are more... lucid and 'sensible', the ones that flows like a
> movie. Those catch my attention and, from experience, I realize I am dreaming.
> Now I can vivdly remember it and even tweak it. Because of this I never suffer
> full blown nightmares. I fight monsters, walk through fire, breath under water
> or in the void of space (hey, I once did a swan dive from a space shuttle all
> the way to the ground!!), and either fly or land on my feet when I fall from
> great heights.
>
> I think the reason I have so many furry dreams is the concept is on my mind a
> lot plus I have a strong imagination that often traslates to words and pictures.
> Be creative and aware.
What is the point of dreaming if your living it out the way you want
it. Sorry to come off like that. Nightmares are a natural process of
life and if I would to erase them I feel as though I would never
trully understand how I feel about certain things. My phenotype for
instance. Maybe it is prey for others, or I could be the one killing
the prey.
(N.B That would've been cool to dive towards Earth!)
Skytech
> you want it. Sorry to come off like that. Nightmares are a
> natural process of life and if I would to erase them I feel
> as though I would never trully understand how I feel about
> certain things.
That's almost saying you have no right to try getting out of the way of a
speeding car, the outcome is inevitable. No, there's no reason I can't or
shouldn't have some control over my dreams. Actually it shows good mental and
character strength both asleep and awake. Too many people give in to fear and
stress.
On the other paw, I get to enjoy a richer dream experience. I have many dreams
tht are very rich in detail and sensation. When I was a real fox moving in a
field I could feel the sun, hear the grass and smell field odors I recognize.
When I was a werewolf escaping an underwater habitat, the water was realistic as
I remember from real diving experiences including feeling the water around me as
I swam and seeing the terrain and plantlife. There have been several dreams
involved in trotting and running on all four both as an anthro and as a full cat
(plus the above fox dream).
Oh and then there's the Nightbeast dream. I'll explain NB sometime but let's say
he's a predatory beastal humanoid. He (I) was hunting 'bad men' and was moving
in the dark on all fours through underbrush and low walls. I felt my way along
hearing my targets and watching them until I struck actually feeling my mouth
grabbing two of the mens' throats and biting down until they stopped struggling.
I felt anger and determination to hunt. I could sense it was a dream but I also
felt some control as if I was actually doing this! Tell me that was wrong and
there was no chance to learn and understand from such an event?
> (N.B That would've been cool to dive towards Earth!)
I walked out of the airlock and moved slow. I stood in the center of the open
cargo bay and looked down (up?) at the Earth then pushed off in a kind of swan
dive. I fell toward the Earth. Oh, I was not wearing a suit! I fell faster then
hit the atmosphere. I could feel that knot in my stomach from the thrill because
I could see a great vista around me of an actual great height. Then the air was
roaring as I fell through high clouds and I could feel it pressing against me.
The clouds broke and I was still miles above the ground. The ground closed fast
but I started slowing down, turned feet first and finally, with arms out, landed
on my feet.
It was a rush.
I've jumped off a high dam and many sheer cliffs too.
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Skytech
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virturalrift
> Oh and then there's the Nightbeast dream. I'll explain NB sometime but let's say
> he's a predatory beastal humanoid. He (I) was hunting 'bad men' and was moving
> in the dark on all fours through underbrush and low walls. I felt my way along
> hearing my targets and watching them until I struck actually feeling my mouth
> grabbing two of the mens' throats and biting down until they stopped struggling.
> I felt anger and determination to hunt. I could sense it was a dream but I also
> felt some control as if I was actually doing this! Tell me that was wrong and
> there was no chance to learn and understand from such an event?
Not at all, lucid dreaming can be interesting, exiting and can take
you to a completely different universe if you like. But sometimes I
think I'd prefer to let my mind wander and have a nightmare or two now
and then. Don't get me wrong, lucid dreaming is great but it just
doesn't bring out a message for me. Nightmares can expose your unknown
fears and stimulate you in ways you never thought possible. My
nightmares would usally consist of someone chasing me and I would be
unable move or I would run slowly. (Which had something to do which my
sexual oriontation) The thing or person was a problem I was having at
the time. (Bullying)
On Mar 18, 7:14 am, "Skytech" <skyt...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> trotting and running on all four both as an anthro
Anthro? Lol I'm still quite the newbie to all of this.
On Mar 18, 7:14 am, "Skytech" <skyt...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>Oh and then there's the Nightbeast dream. I'll explain NB sometime
Oh please do, it sounds crazy and brash.
§ñühw¤£f
"Dan Skunk" <dans...@rogers.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
Did you chase yourself and then spray yourself?
:)
Skytech
>> NB sometime
> Oh please do, it sounds crazy and brash.
He's an RPG character I created a quarter century ago. I've come to realize he's
a personal metaphor for my struggle and control of my Id and Ego. He's an
externalized representation of the beastal instinct and ferocious nature at odds
with restraint and reason. If you ever saw me watch a movie featuring those
really nasty bad guys, you would see my physical reaction and you wouldn't like
what I'm thinking! Yet you'd also see me reign in the emotions... mostly.
Nightbeast is a magically created creature. A man was dying after being horribly
abused by a drug gang. As the last of his life faded, he felt the anger and rage
against his attackers while still trying to hold back and make sense of what
happened. The remote area he lay in was a pool of energy, magic or otherwise,
that rebuilt him but used his last internal struggles as a blueprint. He rose as
the blend of human and beast. Not an actual feline or other actua animal but a
man whose physical features have developed as a predator, very dark fur, large
triangular ears, night sensitive eyes, claws and teeth in an enlarged muzzle.
He's an avenging spirit now rather than pure mortal being. He rides the edge
between his very overt dual nature. The beast is a superior tracker, hunter and
fighter but without the human side he would be a horrible monster. As it is he
stays *fairly* removed from the humans he protect as most treat him as a monster
plus he fears he may lose control. Pretty much an urban legend parents scare
their kids with. "YOU DID WHAT?! YOU WANT THE NIGHTBEAST TO HUNT YOU?!!"
He's cool and a great way to look at myself. Someone did a picture of him in the
4th Ed Champions RPG gamebook!
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§ñühw¤£f
"Skytech" <sky...@ix.netcom.com> wasted precious bandwith with:
ABC will pick this up as a miniseries next fall.
FYI
virturalrift
> tht are very rich in detail and sensation.
I took your advice Skytech and tried lucid dreaming.
It started off with a flood. Torrential rain cascaded from the sky, to
look upwards would cause my eyes to encounter a heavy impalement of
water. I sat in a tube of some sorts, and I and a group of others were
on a river which had no end. I could see the embankment. It was jagged
and too steep to climb, with small dying trees littering above it. I
could sense the fear between the group. Where were we going? How long
have we been here? Why are we on a river? The rocky currents hit us
and slammed us into each other, knocking some of us over and into the
cold raging water. We all continued along the river, occasionally
slowing to be submerged by a torrent of water. Slowly but surely a
figure appeared in the distance. At first it seemed it seemed to be a
large bridge or building, but as we arrived closer we saw it was a
inspection booth. Our tubes automatically aligned to one of the stalls
there and we waited for out turn to pass through. The noises I
remember coming from the stalls were similar to steam pistons moving
up and down, also there were emergency stop honks and sirens coming
from loudspeakers near the red lights spread around the stall. When it
was my turn to pass, I saw my old English Ex. Teacher inspecting
everybody who passed through. (Why her who knows.)
I could just see above the gate in front of me. The river spiked off
into two directions; one bends around a corner to what I would've
assumed was more river, and the other lead to the spillage entrance of
a processing plant. The plant itself was very large, with numerous
cars parked in its car park, many windows and lots and lots of
spillways, discharging grey liquid into the river. (This dream itself
was black and white in some parts) The gates opened and the river in
front of spiked down, like some sick kind of waterslide, and I fell. I
didn't get that 'Oh shit, there goes my stomach!' feeling when it
happened. I just sort of glided. Levelling out at the bottom I could
see my teacher up high on some stairs/scaffolding struggling to make
it back to stalls with all the water surrounding her. I tipped my tube
over and swam to the stairs to make it back up so I could help her.
Suddenly I was swept off my feet and was taken by the current, all the
way down to the river bend.
Since I wasn't in my tube anymore I could only just see what was going
on, but I did catch I good glimpse of the processing plant before it
disappeared from my line of sight. Still being swept along the river I
passed under a familiar looking bridge, and was beached upon what
seemed to be some kind of hard grass. Looking up, the rain had gone
and the river had completely disappeared. I was stuck smack bang in
the middle of a giant forest, the trees skyrocketing upward. It was at
this time I became unusually starved, and I had the desire to hunt. I
bounced between the trees, (I am still human here) searching for a
meal. I spotted two pigs feeding on the grass, so I attacked. I
pounced at the first one grabbing its neck with my teeth and I bit
down. I could feel the pressure of the skin tightening and eventually
it broke. I felt my teeth inside the pigs body; and the pigs pain and
discontent. Letting go of the pig I continued capering through the
trees, doing aerobatics and aerial tricks. (It was at this point I may
of woke up or dreamt a different dream.)
::Absolutely ANY help dechiphering this dream would be great.::
Skytech
I don't know you so I can't associate your experiences with the dreams. The
river experience seems to show anxiety towards a journey. You probably see that
particular teacher as an authority figure judging and directing your actions.
The processing plant is definately a place of negativity and distress
consitering the pollution. You then enter what a virgin forest and become
naturalistic, a part of the forest. Sounds like a desire to get away from the
modern world's ills.
Dan Skunk
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"Dan Skunk" <dans...@rogers.com> wrote:
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A Skunk dog would be perpetually confused.