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This is a story about if something went wrong with your
plan of being an immobilized plushie (hopefully to get
those that were interested in being an immobilized
plushie to see what they are really getting their paws
into). Warning: The following story is not intended for
young furries and fiction characters were used in the
story. No fur was harmed in the making of this story).
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Not so long ago, a fur named Vallerie Vixen was
viewing the "Furries and Bondage" thread on
alt.lifestyle.furry, the homestead of furs. One of the
posts that intrigued her was one about a plushie fursuit
that does what it says, makes the wearer nice and
snugleable and nicely immobile. After reading this post,
Vallerie Vixen decided to contact the fur that made the
post. The fur got back to her saying that a harness was
used to make the wearer nicely immoblie.
Now, since she was an excellent fursuiter, Vallerie
Vixen headed over to the fabric story to get materials
to make a plushie fursuit of a female fox wearing a
shirt and skirt. After she got all the materials that
she needed, Vallerie Vixen went home and started working
on the plushie fursuit. When she got home, she decided
to make it one-piece with an opening in the back to get
into. A few days later, Vallerie Vixen completed the
plushie fursuit and constructed a harness. Then,
Vallerie Vixen saw that there was one problem, someone
will have to put her in the harness and into the plushie
fursuit and unfortunately, she lived along.
Thinking for a bit, she realized that it was Monday
and a furry furiend of her is available for a few days.
That furiend of hers was a male fox named Freddie Todd.
Vallerie Vixen went to the phone and called Freddie Todd
up and Freddie Todd said, "It seems you read that
'Furries and Bondage' thread on alt.lifestyle.furry.
I'll be happy to come over, stay for a day, and help you
out". Then, Vallerie Vixen hung up the phone and went to
have a big meal and drank a lot of water. After Vallerie
Vixen finished, her furiend Freddie Todd came to the
door. Vallerie Vixen let him in and they went up to her
room where the plushie fursuit is. After they entered
into Vallerie Vixen's room, Freddie Todd noticed the
large plushie collection that Vallerie Vixen had and a
lot of the plushies were three foot tall.
Freddie Todd suddenly realized that Vallerie Vixen
would become the first six foot tall plushie she would
have for a little while. Then, he turned to Vallerie
Vixen and asked, "How long do you want to be an
immobilized plushie?". "For atleast a day", Vallerie
Vixen answered. Then, Freddie Todd took note that it was
around 3:00 in the afternoon and said, "I'll get you out
tomorrow around 3:00". Little did Vallerie Vixen know
that something is going to go really wrong and her
experience was going to turn into horror. Vallerie Vixen
went and took off all her clothes except her underwear
and Freddie Todd picked up the harness and binded
Vallerie Vixen in it in the cuddle position. Suddenly,
Vallerie Vixen realized she couldn't move as Freddie
Todd was getting the one-piece plushie fursuit.
Freddie Todd pulled up the shirt on the one-piece
plushie fursuit to reveal the opening that Vallerie
Vixen left for her to get in. Freddie Todd suddenly
noticed that the skirt was off of the plushie fursuit
and that he will have to put it back on. Freddie Todd
then got Vallerie Vixen into the one-piece plushie
fursuit. In the plushie fursuit, Vallerie Vixen noticed
that she was nice and snugleable while Freddie Todd
began to sew the opening on the plushie fursuit closed.
After he sewn the opening closed, Freddie Todd pulled
the shirt down and then got the skirt back on the
plushie fursuit. Freddie Todd noticed that the skirt
would stay on by elastic and let the skirt close over
the bottom of the shirt.
Seeing that there was no rinkles in the shirt,
Freddie Todd brought Vallerie Vixen in her one-piece
plushie fursuit over to her plushies. After she was
placed with her plushies, Vallerie Vixen said, "I feel
nice and snugleable". Freddie Todd then said, "I'm going
to stay right here", and he sat down on Vallerie Vixen's
bed. After sitting there for a little bid, Freddie Todd
felt a bit sleepy and laid down to take a nap.
Meanwhile, Vallerie Vixen was sitting in her plushie
fursuit and looking out the eyes of it. She saw that she
was unable to move and she just sat there. A few hours
later, Freddie Todd woke up from his nap and suddenly
the phone rang. Freddie Todd picked it up and realized
that it was someone from his home calling because his
sister fell off a bike and was rushed to the hospital.
Freddie Todd realized that he would have to leave
for a bit, but decided that he would return later.
Freddie Todd left to go see his sister in the hospital
while Vallerie Vixen was still in the plushie fursuit
immobilized. Sitting there, more hours passed and it
became dark out as Vallerie Vixen still sat there
immobilized. Sitting there for another couple of hours,
she began to fell tired and thought to herself that
Freddie Tood will be back by morning. Then, Vallerie
Vixen suddenly fell asleep. The next morning, Vallerie
Vixen woke up and suddenly noticed that Freddie Todd
wasn't back yet. She became a bit scared and prayed that
Freddie Todd would be back today. Still immobilized in
the plushie fursuit, she continued to sit there as the
day went by slowly.
Many hours passed and she saw a clock that showed
3:00 in the afternoon and realized that Freddie Todd
still wasn't back yet. Thinking that he simply lost
track of the time, she continued to wait. Hours
continued to go by slowly and evening began to come
around and Freddie Todd still was not back yet. Then, it
became dark as Vallerie Vixen was still sitting there
unable to move. A few hours later, she feel asleep. The
next morning, she noticed that Freddie Todd wasn't back
yet and became really scared. Vallerie Vixen began
struggling hoping that she would get out and after hours
of struggling, Vallerie Vixen realized that she was
trapped and was going to die if someone didn't come to
get her out. Vallerie Vixen also realized that she was
becoming hungry and thirsty.
Unable to get a bite to eat or get a drink, she
stopped struggling and continued to wait. Sitting and
waiting for many hours, she realized that her experience
has become horror as she could die of starvation or
dehydration at any time. Night fell and she fell fast
asleep. The next morning, Vallerie Vixen found that she
was very hungry and thristy and feeling that she is
about to die. Meanwhile, at the hospital with his
sister, Freddie Todd suddenly began thinking about
Vallerie Vixen and suddenly realized that she has been
trapped and immobilized inside a plushie fursuit for
almost three days now as it is Thursday when she only
wanted to be like that for a day. Realizing this, he got
up and said to his sister, "I have to go, I just
realized something". He waved good bye and quickly
headed out of the hospital.
In the room that Freddie Todd's sister was in, you
could hear the sound of tires on a car taking off at
high speed. A few minutes later, Freddie Todd arrived at
Vallerie Vixen's house and quickly went in. He ran up to
Vallerie Vixen's room, quickly pulled the skirt down and
quickly pulled the shirt up on the plushie fursuit that
she was in. Suddenly, Freddie Todd took a pair of
scissors and began removing stitches quickly. After
removing the stitches, Freddie Todd quickly pulled
Vallerie Vixen out of the plushie fursuit. After he
pulled Vallerie Vixen out of the plushie fursuit,
Freddie Todd realized that she was passed out and took
the binding harness off of her. Freddie Todd quickly
took her into the bathroom to run cold water over her
hoping that it will wake her up.
When Freddie Todd ran cold water on her, Vallerie
Vixen snapped out of it and weakly said, "Where in the
world were you?". Freddie Todd began to hug Vallerie
Vixen tightly and sadly and said, "I'm so sorry that I
almost forgotten about you, could you ever forgive me?".
The next thing that Vallerie Vixen said was, "Of course,
but I am going to take apart my plushie fursuit and make
it into a regular fursuit because I'm never going to go
through that again. But, first I am going to get myself
something to eat and drink". Vallerie Vixen got up and
got herself something to eat and drink. When she had her
fill, Vallerie Vixen went back upstairs and changed her
plushie fursuit into a regular fursuit. Then, they lived
happily ever after.
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I hope this experience showed you one of the things that
could happen if you decide to immobilize yourself inside
a plushie fursuit. If not, then you are blinded by your
own ambition.
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Erik Mouse
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some cheese!"
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> When Freddie Todd ran cold water on her, Vallerie
> Vixen snapped out of it and weakly said, "Where in the
> world were you?". Freddie Todd began to hug Vallerie
> Vixen tightly and sadly and said, "I'm so sorry that I
> almost forgotten about you, could you ever forgive me?".
> The next thing that Vallerie Vixen said was, "Of course,
> but I am going to take apart my plushie fursuit and make
> it into a regular fursuit because I'm never going to go
> through that again. But, first I am going to get myself
> something to eat and drink". Vallerie Vixen got up and
> got herself something to eat and drink. When she had her
> fill, Vallerie Vixen went back upstairs and changed her
> plushie fursuit into a regular fursuit. Then, they lived
> happily ever after.
*jaw drops*
"They" lived happily ever after? *They* lived happily ever after?
Vallerie didn't kick his ass for forgetting that he'd left another living
fur paralyzed in a dangerous situation? Freddie took the responsibility for
another person's life and then just *forgot*? Vallerie was willing to rely
on such a flaky jackass in the first place? Freddie was willing to agree to
this without knowing how long Vallerie wanted to be immobilized for?
Vallerie thought that pigging out just before she got sewn into a sealed
cloth bag was a good way to handle her body's functions? Freddie decided to
leave someone who depended on him and didn't even wake them up to tell them?
Neither of them had friends that said "This person out you through hell due
to their own sloppiness, what the hell are you doing living "happily ever
after" with them?"?
What a pair of (pardon my language) *fucking* *idiots!* The kind of people
who give bondage and restraint a bad name... Thanks for the warning, I know
who *not* to ever, *ever* think of playing with when I'm interested in tying
or being tied.
Someone could have died over their mutual idiocy, and "they lived happily
ever after"?
I don't believe it.
Now if you'll excuse me, being a responsible fur who tries not to traumatize
or kill people through casual stupidity, I have to go talk to someone about
safety checks now that my roommates have moved out.
*flips tail angrily*
Gingercat
Oh, shoot, that didn't come out right. That's what I get for writing most of
it, then coming down with a virus and finishing it up after recovering. I
guess I wasn't thinking straight when I finished the story. I apologize
sincerely for getting you upset over it, but I intended it to be a story
about plushie fursuit bondage going wrong.
Again, I sincerely apologize for that not coming out right in the end.
Flashfire
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"Flashfire" <wolf0...@aol.commotion> wrote in message
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> Erik, I'm sorry, but that was really dumb...
Perhaps is was, but it was probably due to the fact I probably wasn't
thinking straight in writing the ending to that. I apologize, but I could
try that again with the ending corrected. I didn't mean to upset anyone, but
was trying to write a story based on the dangers of plushie fursuit bondage.
>Vallerie didn't kick his ass for forgetting that he'd left another living
>fur paralyzed in a dangerous situation?
Fur another horrible storie like that read Stephen Kings "Geralds Game"
its sure to make you think twice.
-Cougar-
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True..it came out really bad at the end, s'all. But what did Vallerie do when
she had to go to the bathroom? After all, she did eat and drink a lot before
getting all trussed up. ;-)
You're no fun ;o)
I guess you don't wanna go caving huh?
zeNWO F
> Gingercat
>
>
Gren (In a bit of a funny mood) <=3
Gingercat nijitced...
> The Prolonged Plushie Fursuit Bondage
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> This is a story about if something went wrong with your
> plan of being an immobilized plushie
<SNICK>
> If not, then you are blinded by your
> own ambition.
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Erik Mouse
Okay. Here's my $1.50.
Erik, it's a decent story, but it seems that suddenly you've changed
your tune. Not even a week ago you were toting that when you yourself
get a fursuit made up for just this purpose that nothing could possibly
happen.
Now the story has some merit as just that: a story. But as for the
practicality of the events in the story, that's some freaky crap.
Now, don't go using the same excuse that you finished it while you were
sick, and please don't just cut and paste your response from pervious
postings, but I'd like to know if you're now seriously going to consider
adding some 'self-safety' to your fursuit idea before you jump into it
(pun not intended). The story was interesting, but it also sounds like
your just attempting to placiate those of us with worries.
Th'long-eared one.
Um, that last weeks fursuit wasn't for an immobilization purpose.
> Now the story has some merit as just that: a story. But as for the
> practicality of the events in the story, that's some freaky crap.
That was intended to let furs that were interested in being an immobilized
plushie for a day or so know what they were getting their paws into.
> Now, don't go using the same excuse that you finished it while you were
> sick, and please don't just cut and paste your response from pervious
> postings, but I'd like to know if you're now seriously going to consider
> adding some 'self-safety' to your fursuit idea before you jump into it
> (pun not intended).
Yes, after reading all the safety precausions I've gotten in past weeks
thread about the fursuit, the 'self-safety' would be a zipper on the back
under the shirt that I would be able to open and allow myself to get out if
nescessary.
> The story was interesting, but it also sounds like
> your just attempting to placiate those of us with worries.
No, it is just that I was attempting to placate those of you planning on
being an immobilized plushie with worries on what unexpectedly could go
wrong.
Cougar wrote:
> >Gingercat"
>
> >Vallerie didn't kick his ass for forgetting that he'd left another living
> >fur paralyzed in a dangerous situation?
>
> Fur another horrible storie like that read Stephen Kings "Geralds Game"
> its sure to make you think twice.
>
LOL Stephen King SUCKS!!! He is the worst author I ever had the displeasure
of reading. Well, ok, William Shatner sucks pretty badly too and I can think
of several sucky authors, but really, I can't stand Stephen King.
Avenging_Lioness
If you are interested in Stephen King, I would suggest that you subscribe to
the following newsgroup,
http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.books.stephen-king
There, you will find everything you need to know about those books and where
everything Stephen King is on-topic.
You better not be planning on breaking this mouse's legs because I have
caring furiends that will stop you before you even try it.
Um, I didn't mention the bathroom part because I felt that most stories
don't talk about characters using the bathroom. In this case, a couple of
bags were attached to Vallerie Vixen to collect the waste.
Anyway, the corrected ending was (hopefully this doesn't become yet another
problem) that after Freddie Todd snapped Vallerie Vixen out of her trance
with the cold shower water, she furst began wonder where in furcadia was
Freddie Todd and then had the biggest arguement they had because her life
was at stake there. Then, after they calmed down, Vallerie Vixen changed her
plushie fursuit into a regular fursuit because she decided that she wasn't
going to try that again. This story was just intended to get those thinking
that being an immobilized plushie for a day or so to realize the dangers
that come with the price and that the unexpected could happen.
>> True..it came out really bad at the end, s'all. But what did Vallerie do
>> when she had to go to the bathroom? After all, she did eat and drink a
>> lot before getting all trussed up. ;-)
> Um, I didn't mention the bathroom part because I felt that most stories
> don't talk about characters using the bathroom. In this case, a couple of
> bags were attached to Vallerie Vixen to collect the waste.
(But you said specifically that the fursuit went on directly over her
underwear...)
> Anyway, the corrected ending was (hopefully this doesn't become yet
another
> problem) that after Freddie Todd snapped Vallerie Vixen out of her trance
> with the cold shower water, she furst began wonder where in furcadia was
> Freddie Todd and then had the biggest arguement they had because her life
> was at stake there. Then, after they calmed down, Vallerie Vixen changed
her
> plushie fursuit into a regular fursuit because she decided that she wasn't
> going to try that again. This story was just intended to get those
thinking
> that being an immobilized plushie for a day or so to realize the dangers
> that come with the price and that the unexpected could happen.
That's a shame. If she'd actually gotten someone *responsible* to do that
with her, and negotiated what would happen in emergencies ahead of time, she
could've kept playing with plushie fursuits. It sucks when one bad
experience
turns you off something for life.
Gingercat
>> Vallerie didn't kick his ass for forgetting that he'd left another living
>> fur paralyzed in a dangerous situation?
> Fur another horrible storie like that read Stephen Kings "Geralds Game"
> its sure to make you think twice.
Read it. I still think that one could've been avoided with a safeword - if
there'd been a way for Jessie to say "no" in a way that Gerald *couldn't*
have convinced himself was "just part of the game", I don't think he'd have
been able to lie to himself enough to be comfortable with trying to rape her
and she wouldn't have kicked him in the stomach, brought on a heart attack,
and had to deal with the ensuing situation.
But I'm a communication junkie. :)
Gingercat
>> .....
>> Now if you'll excuse me, being a responsible fur who tries not to
>> traumatize or kill people through casual stupidity...
> You're no fun ;o)
That's not what I've been told. ;)
> I guess you don't wanna go caving huh?
In my copious spare time... :)
(You do mean 'caving' as in spelunking-type stuff? Or am I completely
missing a reference here?)
Gingercat
*L* No, I'm not.
Lot of Stephen King readers on ALF, I take it...
Gingercat
Um, I put it that way as one of the precausions for heat, but I may be
wrong.
> That's a shame. If she'd actually gotten someone *responsible* to do that
> with her, and negotiated what would happen in emergencies ahead of time,
she
> could've kept playing with plushie fursuits. It sucks when one bad
> experience turns you off something for life.
That's one way to put it.
But, you sound as if you are one who either knows all the dangers of being
put immobilized in a plushie fursuit or are blinded by your own ambitions to
being immobilized in a plushie fursuit dispite the dangers of it.
Erik:
>That's one way to put it.
>
>But, you sound as if you are one who either knows all the dangers of being
>put immobilized in a plushie fursuit or are blinded by your own ambitions to
>being immobilized in a plushie fursuit dispite the dangers of it.
That's not at all what it sounds like to me. It sounds to me like she's noting
a few simple steps that could've and should've been taken before doing any kind
of play like this that would've hopefully covered the bases in the event of an
emergency.
> >> That's a shame. If she'd actually gotten someone *responsible* to do
that
> >> with her, and negotiated what would happen in emergencies ahead of
time,
> >> she could've kept playing with plushie fursuits. It sucks when one bad
> >> experience turns you off something for life.
> Erik:
>> That's one way to put it.
>> But, you sound as if you are one who either knows all the dangers of
being
>> put immobilized in a plushie fursuit or are blinded by your own ambitions
to
>> being immobilized in a plushie fursuit dispite the dangers of it.
No. No interest in plushie fursuiting, or in fursuiting in general. Though
I
will let myself get restrained.
> That's not at all what it sounds like to me. It sounds to me like she's
noting
> a few simple steps that could've and should've been taken before doing any
kind
> of play like this that would've hopefully covered the bases in the event
of an
> emergency.
Thank you. <:)
Basic questions for anything where someone's going to voluntarily give up
their
mobility; what do you want to have happen? What could happen that could
cause
problems? What are you going to do if those problems happen?
I still think the worst thing that happened in the entire story was Freddie
leaving Vallerie alone and tied up when she was asleep. IMHO you treat
someone
that helpless the same way you treat a toddler who's just learnt how to
crawl;
you don't turn your back, because if you do, it could be during exactly the
wrong thirty seconds.
If he really had to leave, he should've woken her up and let her out of the
fursuit. Panicking isn't an excuse; if he didn't think he could remember
that
much, he shouldn't have agreed to watch her. If I'm changing the diaper of
a
newborn baby and I get a call saying that my sister was hit by a car, I
don't
run out of the house and leave the kid on the table. I *don't*. Period.
You agree to watch someone in that kind of situation, or you put them in
that
situation - you accept that responsibility - then you are responsible for
making sure that they're as safe as they would be if they hadn't given up
that
freedom.
*looks at self*
Dammit, I'm getting positively draconian. And every time I get draconian,
my
fur gets all spikey and hard.
*sighs* *stretches out, rippling her spine and tail* *slowly relaxes*
A/y. All that's IMHO.
Gingercat
Ah, atleast that's gotten you thinking more than twice before you allow you
to be immobilized in a plushie fursuit without reading every safety
precausion there is and knowing exactly what the heck you are doing.
Well, on a side note, it pains me to read about a fur (especially if that
fur is a good furiend of mine) who is volunteering to allow someone to put
them in a situation (possibly dangerous if something unexpected went wrong)
where only that someone can get them back out because I am feeling that I
care about them a lot more and don't want to see them disappear permanently
(and I don't want to be reading about their tragic accident in the furry
obituaries).
The real reason I made and posted that story is to get you to think with the
heart about being put into a situation where you very life is in the hands
of a furiend you thought you could trust and that this furiend can only get
you out of the situation. Please, just think with and listen to your heart,
and not with what you desire from instincts.
Again, when I read about a fur (especially if it good furiend of mine) who
is volunteering to allow someone to put them in a situation (possibly
dangerous if something unexpected went wrong) where only that someone can
get them back out I feel that I care about them very, very much and want to
find a way to convince them not to go through with it. It is something that
I don't want to see them do to themselves because I feel in my heart that th
ey are going to harm vital parts of themselves and disabilize themselves
forever. I would feel the pain of sadness if a good furiend of mine
disablizes themselves willing or I would feel it at best if I read about a
good furiend of mine who is going to immobilize themselves in a plushie
fursuit.
Again, please think with your hearts about your safety, not with what the
animal part of you tells you. Please understand that I would feel grief if I
feel that I am going to loose a good furiend of mine to something they're
willing doing and putting their life in the hands of a trusted furiend
without truely thinking with and feeling what their heart tells them about
the situation they are about to subject themselves to.
If you forgo this without even thinking about it, then I wish for you have a
caring/loving heart as you probably have some little ones that you care for
more than putting your very life in a situation where it is in the hands of
a furiend you think you can trust, and that those little ones will grow up
to become new furry residents of homestead.
Now you turn around and claim to have written a story to point out the dangers
of doing this very thing, changing it to be an outfit that one is immobolized
in?
Do you really think you're fooling anyone?
> Ah, atleast that's gotten you thinking more than twice before you allow
you
> to be immobilized in a plushie fursuit without reading every safety
> precausion there is and knowing exactly what the heck you are doing.
Actually, it should be sufficient to read and follow SM101.
For a scene such as this, the following would be requirements:
Safety scissors
Panic button/phone where Valerie can reach it, which will call help; in case
her "minder" Freddie has a problem.
Well set-up "check-in" procedure. As Valerie can speak, there should be a
call maybe an hour after Freddie arrives where she confirms everything is
okay, and again the next morning after the bondage should have ended.
Depending on her trust in Freddie, this call would have various phrases
associated with it, such as "Hi" meaning "There's a maniac here and I can't
speak freely, call the police, don't come yourself; do this now", and "Oh,
hi" meaning "I am just fine", maybe "Dragons roost on my roof" meaning "I am
fine and he has left". Again, depending on trust and level of paranoia.
Personally, I find that being a little too careful has not hurt the mood of
a scene yet; and most bad experiences people have could have been avoided
with a well set-up check-in. Freddie, of course, needs to know that there
_is_ a check-in, but should not know the details.
A fire extinguisher sounds like a good idea. If that fursuit catches fire
for whatever reason, the burns will be _nasty_.
An emergency flashlight (power-outs style) also.
Lastly, you do NOT leave someone who is in bondage alone. Not even for 5
minutes. You just do NOT. Both need to know this.
And of course, safewords.
Sound complicated? Not at all. Bondage is lots of fun. The safety checks
become second nature very soon. Playing without safety checks, however, will
go _horribly_ wrong if it does go wrong.
Remember that all bondage is "edge-play", no matter how mild, and be
prepared. And then have fun :o)
DawnWolf
Gren (Hopes you know what I'm on about) <=3
Those are two completely different bondages (mobilized and immobilized). I
simply backed out of the mobilized one simply because I saw the dangers to
it and felt that wasn't exactly for me. I prefer to put myself in a
situation where I can get out on my own.
DawnWolf wrote:
>
> Woof,
>
> Actually, it should be sufficient to read and follow SM101.
Good advice.
Th'long-eared one.
--
'When I got home I heard the silence crack,
The voices in my head were talking behind my back'
-Barstool Prophets 'Little Death'
> > I guess you don't wanna go caving huh?
>
> In my copious spare time... :)
>
Work is over-rated...
> (You do mean 'caving' as in spelunking-type stuff? Or am I completely
> missing a reference here?)
>
Yep..crawling around in th Earth....pitch black...tonnes of rock and dirt
over your head...I love it!
ZW
> Gingercat
>
>
>> >> .....
>> >> Now if you'll excuse me, being a responsible fur who tries not to
>> >> traumatize or kill people through casual stupidity...
> >> You're no fun ;o)
>> That's not what I've been told. ;)
> Oh, so you _have_ killed folks...hmmm...
:P Nah, I've just inflicted fun on them. Brutal, relentless, exhausting
fun.
> >> I guess you don't wanna go caving huh?
>> In my copious spare time... :)
> Work is over-rated...
Yes, yes, it is.
But I sketch and I read and I LARP and Fivr just introduced me to MUCKing,
so...
>> (You do mean 'caving' as in spelunking-type stuff? Or am I completely
>> missing a reference here?)
> Yep..crawling around in th Earth....pitch black...tonnes of rock and dirt
> over your head...I love it!
YKINMK,BYKIOK.
I don't think I'd mind it except for the (potential for) dark.
Gingercat
Actually, someone else (I think it may have been Kiala, but I'm *not* sure)
mentioned a giant plushie immobilization fursuit, and Erik did say he
thought
that such a thing would be potentially dangerous.
Gingercat
>> You agree to watch someone in that kind of situation, or you put them in
>> that situation - you accept that responsibility - then you are
responsible
>> for making sure that they're as safe as they would be if they hadn't
given
>> up that freedom.
>> *looks at self*
>> Dammit, I'm getting positively draconian. And every time I get
draconian,
>> my fur gets all spikey and hard.
>> *sighs* *stretches out, rippling her spine and tail* *slowly relaxes*
> Ah, atleast that's gotten you thinking more than twice before you allow
you
> to be immobilized in a plushie fursuit without reading every safety
> precausion there is and knowing exactly what the heck you are doing.
Alright. I'm going to try to make myself clear.
1) I am not interested in immobilization in a plushie fursuit.
2) Your story and did not make me think twice about letting myself being put
in bondage, because it didn't bring up any new safety concerns. Your story
didn't address the dangers of plushie fursuit bondage[1]. Examples of such
dangers would be dehydration, muscle cramping, circulation, and the safe
elimination of bodily wastes. Your story didn't deal with any of those.
Your story *did* point out that it's stupid to play with unreliable flakes
(i.e. Freddie). I already know that it's stupid to play with unreliable
flakes. That's why I don't do it. I didn't do it before I read your story,
and I still wouldn't do it even if I'd never read your story.
> Again, when I read about a fur (especially if it good furiend of mine) who
> is volunteering to allow someone to put them in a situation (possibly
> dangerous if something unexpected went wrong) where only that someone can
> get them back out I feel that I care about them very, very much and want
to
> find a way to convince them not to go through with it. It is something
that
> I don't want to see them do to themselves because I feel in my heart that
th
> ey are going to harm vital parts of themselves and disabilize themselves
> forever.
Been there. Done that. Came out the other side with all bits and pieces
intact, and an endorphin/serotonin rush that was unbelievable.[2]
Restraint is not automatically bad, damaging, or unpleasant. Carelessness
means that it's much more likely to be all three.
> Again, please think with your hearts about your safety, not with what the
> animal part of you tells you. Please understand that I would feel grief if
I
> feel that I am going to loose a good furiend of mine to something they're
> willing doing and putting their life in the hands of a trusted furiend
> without truely thinking with and feeling what their heart tells them about
> the situation they are about to subject themselves to.
Good advice, but incomplete. Think with your head, too. The heart can say
"I love and trust this person and I know they won't hurt me." The head can
add in details like "But this person needs eight hours of sleep every day
and I want to be restrained for thirty-six hours - how are we going to deal
with this?"
Gingercat
---
[1]I can *not* believe I just used that phrase in a serious post. Dear
gods,
my life is getting weird.
[2]And I'm also surprised that I'm not editing a lot more out of this post
before I send it. I think a lot of it relates to a recent experience that
ties into Relee's question (back in the "Furries and Bondage" thread) about
how one's personal bondage experiences relate to being/feeling furry. It's
really kind of surprising how feline you can end up feeling after an
extended
game of cat-and-mouse...
So I guess this topic is now something I consider to be at least partially
related to furriness for me.
As I said, dear gods, my life is getting weird...
> >> Can we cover you with honey & tie you up near an ant hill ?
> >> LOL!
>> Quick Erik, use the iron doorstop!
>> Gren (Hopes you know what I'm on about) <=3
> Too late! he's sewn into his fursuit and cant run fast enough.*grabs EriK
> and does a fire-mans carry to the anthill*
> ZW ;o)
*pounces ZW* *Erik Mouse rolls off ZW's shoulders, ends up rolling safely
to a nice, soft spot[1]*
*looks down at ZW, tail lashing*
He. Didn't. Consent.
Good to hear that you are just playing around, yes? :)
(Dammit, my fur is positively *spiking*...)
Gingercat
---
[1]Kids, don't try this at home. We're trained Usenet professionals. ;)
Ye gads man! His 'L' has fallen off!
G en (oh no! it's contagious) <=3
"Erik Mouse" <erik...@km-website.com> wrote in message
news:9jf24n$bfm$1...@raccoon.fur.com...
> The Prolonged Plushie Fursuit Bondage
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> This is a story about if something went wrong with your
> plan of being an immobilized plushie (hopefully to get
> those that were interested in being an immobilized
> plushie to see what they are really getting their paws
> into). Warning: The following story is not intended for
> young furries and fiction characters were used in the
> story. No fur was harmed in the making of this story).
> --------------------------------------------------------
*Snip of story that I only scanned quickly...*
Erik...
*sighs and rubs his eyes, groaning in pain*
I get the distinct impression that when you sit down to write, it is
completely balls-to-the-wall, non-stop and total flow until
completion.
*puts some eyedrops in his eyes and sighs in relief*
Hookay...now, I've had 8 hour writing sessions before myself.
Midwatches can be pretty long and dull while at sea with nothing
going on, and I've done quite a few of those sessions.
But *YOU* my friend, need to take a break while writing.
You see, those 8-hour sessions of mine took 8 hours BECAUSE...I
stopped to read what I was writing, AND went back to correct errors,
AND (most importantly) I make SURE that my work is properly
formatted.
By formatted, I mean no run-on sentences, 4-sentence maximum
paragraphs and I separate spoken words into a paragraph for each
person. For example...
*quote*
When Freddie Todd ran cold water on her, Vallerie
Vixen snapped out of it and weakly said, "Where in the
world were you?". Freddie Todd began to hug Vallerie
Vixen tightly and sadly and said, "I'm so sorry that I
almost forgotten about you, could you ever forgive me?".
The next thing that Vallerie Vixen said was, "Of course,
but I am going to take apart my plushie fursuit and make
it into a regular fursuit because I'm never going to go
through that again. But, first I am going to get myself
something to eat and drink".
*end quote*
That reads like a military tech manual. Try formatting it like this:
**********
When Freddie Todd ran cold water on her, Vallerie Vixen snapped out
of it and weakly said, "Where in the world were you?".
Freddie Todd began to hug Vallerie Vixen tightly and sadly and said,
"I'm so sorry that I almost forgotten about you, could you ever
forgive me?".
The next thing that Vallerie Vixen said was, "Of course, but I am
going to take apart my plushie fursuit and make it into a regular
fursuit because I'm never going to go through that again. But, first
I am going to get myself something to eat and drink".
***********
BIG difference. Very big difference. Suddenly, the story is now
READABLE. You have now given the reader a chance to read a bit, take
a break to think or get something to eat and come back to where
they've left off.
Truth be told, if I don't see a story broken into paragraphs, I don't
read it at all. This kind of knowledge was passed to most of us in
english class in school. (Granted, some of us here don't have
English as our primary language, but you still learned how to read
and write your primary language, and grammar is grammar.) If for
some reason you didn't go to some kind of school (which I doubt,
since you are here) then you can look at ANY fiction book on the
shelf to get an idea on proper sentence structure and grammatical
formatting.
Another pet-peeve of mine is spelling. Erik ran his through a
spell-checker, but for some of the others...
I am willing to forgive spelling errors for people who are from a
different country, such as England, but speak English with a dialect
or accent. I am especially forgiving of people who don't speak
English as a primary language, as well as people who suffer from
certain disorders such as Agraphia or ADHD. I myself often mis-spell
certain words because I'm typing so fast, or I miss a word that was
spelled correctly but wasn't supposed to be there.
But if you were raised in the US and went to school here, then I find
spelling errors to be a little hard to swallow. If you cared enough
to put your thoughts to paper or disk, then you should care enough to
make sure it is spelled correctly.
Now, spell-checking programs are very nice, but are not perfect.
Here's an example of where your spell-checker bit you in the tail,
Erik...
Now, since she was an excellent fursuiter, Vallerie
Vixen headed over to the fabric -->story<-- to get materials
to make a plushie fursuit of a female fox wearing a
shirt and skirt.
In this example, "story" was spelled correctly, but the context was
wrong. If you were using WordPerfect, the program uses Grammatik to
point out such errors. MS-Word also does this, but not as reliably
as Grammatik.
*sighs happily*
There are many ways to write, and not all of them are right, and
likewise, not all of them are wrong. But there *are* a few ways that
are going to go a long way to making your writing readable and
likeable. You can learn these methods by simply picking up a fiction
book and looking at the way it's put together. Of if you want to get
more advanced, pick up a book on writing fiction.
Heck, even looking for onld English textbooks in the bargain book-bin
at the thrift store, or the DUMPSTER at the local high-school will
help you quite a bit.
So keep writing, Erik, but try some of the hints I've given you. It
will go a long way to making your work more memorable.
=====O <==[IonOtter, LogOut]
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Well, it was Kiala that furst mentioned a giant plushie immobilization
fursuit. It furst intrigued me, but then I realized the dangers of being in
such a thing and the fursuit I was asking to have made last week was
completely different than Kiala's plushie immobilization fursuit (one that
you can move freely in), but after seeing more precauions I decided that it
will have to be a one-piece fursuit with a zipper on the back where I would
be able to pull the zipper down and be able to open it up to let myself out
anytime I wanted to.
> I am willing to forgive spelling errors for people who are from a
> different country, such as England,
*lol* well American spelling IS more logical. Except for Arkansas (grrrr)
> but speak English with a dialect
> or accent.
Fair enough, although people from the UK with even the most impenetrable
dialects write in the standard form.
Gren (living in an uptown krillin) < =3
"Cougar" <catof...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20010722162253...@ng-bk1.aol.com...
Fur another horrible storie like that read Stephen Kings "Geralds Game"
its sure to make you think twice.
Why would I want to subscribe to a newsgroup when I can read the books directly? (and Gerald's game has to have been written on a crack binge in my opinion. Good book, but not King's style).
If you are interested in Stephen King, I would suggest that you subscribe to
the following newsgroup,
http://groups.google.com/groups?group=alt.books.stephen-king
There, you will find everything you need to know about those books and where
everything Stephen King is on-topic.