Yourself
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1. What is your name?
I'm rather partial to just Rabbit, really. You can call me Rabbitswift if you
wanna be all formal about it. {You can call me anything, just don't call me
late for dinner!}
2. What is your email address?
Rabbi...@Hotmail.com If they wanna spam me, let 'em. At least it'd
give the illusion of a full inbox. For once.
3. Are you male or female?
I'm a tod. Y'know, a buck, a boar {yes, I know}. Male.
4. How old are you? / What is your date of birth?
I'm 23, for a few more days anyway. I was born on February 23, 1979. At
2:00 in the morning, no less.
5. Where do you live?
Bourbon County, Kentucky. Better known as, the middle of friggin'
nowhere. But the birthplace of the greatest alcoholic drink in existance,
yes indeed!
6. What are your interests/hobbies?
They are legion. History's the big one, followed by mythology, etymology
{word histories} and general wordplay, languages, art, music, writing,
animals {particularly skunks, foxes, rabbits, and any animal that can run
/fast/}, anthropology, travel, archaeology, and on and on and on.
7. What do you do for a living?
I'm a professional temp. *Sigh* Currently I'm assigned to working for the
vast, faceless beaurocracy that is the Kentucky Education System. The
ingrates.
8. How would you describe your personality?
In a word: Mercurial. I'm pretty shy and withdrawn around people I don't
know. Around people I do know I'm really rather extroverted. I'll raise a
paw to having a quick temper too, though it's equally quick to cool off.
9. Do you believe in ESP? Do you consider yourself to be psychic?
I'm not sure if there is such a thing as ESP. I do know that I'm not
psychic. I can pick up on other people's emotions but I think that's what
they call "paying attention" more than anything supernatural. Sorry, I tend
to be a bit skeptical about this one.
10. Are you a meat eater?
On occasion, yes. Tho' I tend to prefer what is termed "rabbit food".
Surprised?
Furry media
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[more info: http://yiffle.cjb.net/fandom/]
11. Who are your favourite furry characters?
Sabrina is at the top, no question. And of course I'm partial to Millie and
Liska 'cause they, in my opinion, embody quite a lot of the vulpine spirit.
I'm fond of Zigzag too, tho' I'd much prefer to see her character to be
fleshed out a little more. S.O. does a good job of this. Which is probably
partly why I tend to want to see her as something more than just an object
for fanboys to drool over. Besides, the elements of her past that've been
hinted at in S.O. have caught my attention.
Outside the "furry" sphere I'm fond of the fox from Peter Beagle's
"Inkeeper's Song" because he's a trickster and just plain interesting. B'rer
Rabbit was one of my first ever favorite "furry" characters {though I alwas
had a soft spot for B'rer Fox too.} And there's all kinds of creatures from
myth and legend. Pegasus for example {I s'pose he counts} was one of my
first loves as a kit, character wise.
12. What type of furry artwork do you enjoy viewing?
Largely romatic/erotic or humorous with a fair smattering of others thrown
in.
13. What type of furry literature do you enjoy reading?
I've a wide variety of tastes in literature, which includes comics/graphic
novels. Pretty much the same as with artwork.
14. What types of furry media do you create?
Poetry, mostly animal-themed as opposed to anthro. And I've tried my
paw at writing a longer story with minimal success.
15. What types of animal/furry themed decorations adorn your living
space?
Lots and lots of furry art. Among them is a piece by the very sweet and
talented Grygon. *Hugs ya.* It was the first piece that I just saw and had to
have. Besides that one it's mostly skunks, o'course, and more animal
themed pictures, posters, and post-cards than you can shake a stick at.
Oh and even one small palomino horse plush that I was given once for my
birthday.
16. Describe your ideal plushie.
I'm not really as in to plush stuff as a lot of furs. It'd be nice to find a
spotted skunk plush, tho'. Or a swif fox. Lots o' luck.
Costumes and collars
====================
17. Do you enjoy wearing fursuits and/or furry accessories?
T-shirts, but that's about it. I've got five shirts, mostly Sabrina-Online stuff.
I know I'm a fan boy. But also a couple of others.
18. Do you feel 'furrier' when wearing a fursuit/collar/tail etc?
Nah, not really. I'm a fur regardless of what I'm wearing. I do get kind of a
good feeling when I wear those t-shirts but that's more to do with my being
a fan than a fur.
19. Describe your favourite/ideal 'furry' appearance.
A furry-themed t-shirt and a nice fluffy skunk tail would do it for me. I'm
not big on fursuits and I don't like the idea of collars 'cause I don't think
things that are too tight 'round my neck. And I can't, for the life of me,
imagine why a skunk would wear a collar anyway.
Furriness
=========
['phenotype' - the species of animal(s) that influence your feelings,
emotions and thoughts]
20. What are your phenotype(s)?
1. Eastern Spotted Skunk {spilogale putorius, lit. "stinking spotted
weasel"}. Also called tree skunks, weasel skunks, four-stripe skunks,
black martins, and hydrophobia cats.
2.Swift fox {vulpes velox, lit. "fast fox"}
Other animals that I feel a connection to, but which are not necessarily
full fledged phenotypes include:
Horses/unicorns {former phenotypes}
Rabbits {former phenotype}
Weasels {skunks were once considered to be part of the weasel family
so there I feel a bit of a kinship there}
21. How/when did you discover the identity/species of your phenotype?
When I was a freshman in college in 1997 I began to feel a certain
connection to horses and unicorns. I think that the catalyst for this
discovery was the fact that I wasn't used to spending such long periods of
time away from home. And because {it sounds silly, I know} I seriously
missed my old horse.
He and I had known each other since we were both three years old,
we'd grown up together. He was the first, and only, animal who's ever
been glad to see me just because I was there and not because I was
going to feed him. At that point I was the only person in the world who
could be much bothered about him or who gave a damn about him. He
was spoiled and mean and had too many health problems to be any good
as a riding horse. But I'd always considered him to be very much my horse
so when I was at college I missed him terribly.
So this was the start, I think, of my realization of furriness as silly as it
sounds. Anxiety over seperation from my horse and "herd". Laugh if you
must. O'course by 1998 I had discovered the V.C.L and furry in general, so
after that I was rather hopelessly entangled in that anyway.
22. What conditions help you to enjoy/express your furriness?
I dunno, it's just sort of my base state really. I enjoy being outside and I
enjoy being with animals. I always feel more alive during the spring and
summer months, too. Winter tends to dampen my spirits considerably.
Nature, animals, breathing...
23. How and when was your furriness first evident?
College, like I said. Probably 'round the middle of my first semester there.
If I wanna stretch it I might say before then too. I always kinda liked
animals better than people.
24. How much of your furriness is 'instinct' vs 'learnt'?
Frankly, I don't know and I don't care. It matters less to me where it came
from than where I'm going with it. It's here, it's who I am, whether I learned
it or it came naturally. That's enough.
25. How does your furriness influence your thoughts and emotions?
Um, well, since it has become my basic nature it's kinda hard to answer
this question. I'm sure the influence is there but I'm not sure I can put it into
conherant paragraphs. It's just who I am, now, so how I think and how I
feel comes naturally rather than being influenced by what I think I should,
as a fur, think or feel. Make sense?
26. Has your furriness improved the quality of your life?
*Grins* Oh, yes. It's certainly given me a great degree of stability and, I
think, I've become a much better person than I was before I realized my
furriness. As an adolescent I kinda stank on ice. I've vastly improved since
I was seventeen and eighteen years old. 'Least I think so.
27. What do you think caused your furriness?
I've no earthly idea, honestly. I've definite feelings of species dysphoria
but I don't know if that qualifies. It's just who I am.
Acting furry
============
28. How does your furriness manifest itself externally?
It doesn't, really. I don't howl at the moon or growl or make little cat
noises. I don't walk digitigrade partly because I've got a bad ankle but
mostly 'cause I'm clumsy enough when I walk plantigrade. Furriness is, for
me, a mental/emotional/spiritual thing for the most part.
29. Do you act furry in public?
I act like myself in public. So, in a sense, yes. But I still don't do anything I
wouldn't normally do.
30. How does your furriness influence the way you interact with people?
I suppose it must in some way, being a fur. But I just act as comes
naturally around people. I don't make any special considerations for being
furry or anything. It doesn't cause me to like or dislike anyone, necessarily,
or do anything other than I would normally do.
31. How much control do you have over your furriness?;
Total, I suppose. Honestly this question makes furriness sound like some
kind of syndrome where you start making cat noises for no apparent
reason. *Shrugs* It's all internal with me.
Furry thoughts
==============
32. Would you become an animal/furry, if you -couldn't- change back?
I'm not sure. Once upon a time I'd have jumped at this like a shot. I'd still
probably do it, if it were possible. But, if it were possible, I think a decision
like this would demand a certain amount of forethought.
33. Describe your ideal physical form.
More and more I see myself, when I visualize this sort of thing at all, as
pretty much a normal animal in shape, either skunk or fox. It's just what
feels right.
But anthropomorphically I see myself most often as a spotted skunk of
the same, rather unflattering, physical shape as my real body except with
the obvious animal features. And only five feet tall 'cause that's the height
I want to be. {I'm weird, okay?} Depending on my mood I see myself as
having either the classic black and white fur or, sometimes, deep purple
and white. {It's my favorite colour, 'kay?}
As a swift fox I just tend to see myself as an anthro swift fox with
somewhat oversize ears. Both forms with dark violet eyes 'cause I think
that'd be pretty.
Did I mention I'm weird?
34. What kind of furry, non-sexual fantasies do you have?
I've had a number of running dreams, sorta like the typical flying dream
{I've had those too despite a fear of heights when I was a kit}. I want to
be able to go fast without having to rely on machines to do it.
There's more but they're pretty dull.
Religion/Spirituality
=====================
35. Is your furriness compatible with your religion?
Er... I don't have a religion. I've something of a spiritual side, true. I
believe in the soul. But I'm also fairly agnostic and I tend to be wary of
anything like organized religion.
36. Has your furriness led you to reconsider your religious beliefs?
Well, sorta. {Again, I don't have a religion, just a spirituality.} Some of the
facets of my furriness are as much of a spiritual side as I've ever had, to be
honest.
37. Have you ever communicated with an animal spirit?
I think so, on a couple of occasions. Nothing very much, nothing very
spectacular. Just sort of presences.
38. Do you believe that you were an animal in a former life?
No. But I believe that I was supposed to be one in this one.
39. Do you believe that you have an animal soul?
Yes and no. I think that I was supposed to have been an animal. But I
also think that a soul is more than whatever body it's in. So it's not really as
simple as having an animal or a human soul. A body can shape a soul and
a soul can wind up in a different one than the one it was intended to
inhabit. But it also transcends that. {Toldja I was weird.}
Animals
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40. What animals are you most/least comfortable with?
I've always been pretty comfortable around dogs and cats having lived
with them for all of my life. I love horses, which should go without saying,
and for the longest time I harbored desires of working with them in some
capactity. Ferrets and weasels are great even when they try to run down
your shirt. I've never met too many skunks but they've never seemed too
fussed about with me. I like rats and mice. Snakes are great. And I love
spiders.
It's hard to think of any animal I'm not too comfortable with except wasps,
when they're in my house {they get encouraged to leave} and people. And
that's not an aversion, only shyness.
41. Do you believe that animals have ESP?
As with people I'm not sure that I believe in ESP.
42. Do you think it is acceptable to hunt/raise animals for food?
If the food is needed certainly or if it is used and not simply wasted. And I
would certainly prefer it if people who hunted for food made every effort to
use every part of the animal they could or find someone who could. As to
raising animals, only if they're given the space and excersize and
everything they need. If, by raising animals for food, you mean veal calves
or something like that the /no/! But when I was a kit my parents raised
beef cattle and we associated with plenty of people who did. So I know
that a fair number of people look after livestock in an acceptable fashion.
43. Do you think it is acceptable to hunt/raise animals for fur/leather?
If only for that purpose, then no. If the fur/leather is a by-product of
hunting or raising animals for food then I have less of an objection. But to
raise an animal just to yank off his skin is simply disgusting in my opinion.
Synthetic clothes are more than adequate if that's all you want.
44. Do you think it is acceptable to hunt/raise animals for sport?
No! First of all that's neither hunting nor a sport, that's killing for the sake
of killing. Things like fox "hunting", bear baiting, or hare coursing are
morally corrupt activities. And shooting a deer or a coyote for the hell of it
is not acceptable either.
Internet
========
45. What are your favourite websites?
Oh, I've got so many it'd be kinda tedious to post 'em here. If you really
want a list e-mail me and I'll give you the better ones.
46. What are your favourite furry mailing lists?
Haven't tried any yet.
47. How did you discover alt.lifestyle.furry?
Pure luck, really. I just decided last February that it was high time I make
contact with some real furs after having mooched around various websites
for years. I tried to contact a few furs from their websites via e-mail and
guestbooks, with no luck. Oddly enough it was the Burned Furs website
that springboarded me to another site that springboarded me here. More or
less. When your /own/ website makes you sound unpleasant and nasty,
that should be a hint people! After reading that material I knew I was firmly
on the side of whoever it was they were trying to defame. I kinda already
was, tho'. It was fortunate that I came across other furs' websites before
that one.
So basically I just kinda poked around 'til I found a reference to A.L.F.,
got curious, lurked a while, loved what I saw, and decloaked. And here I
am.
48. What were your very first impressions of alt.lifestyle.furry?
Positive, overall. The first post I ever read here was picked at random
and had something to do with someone telling someone else they had no
right to tell anyone else to leave. The vagueness is due to my memory, not
the post, I'm sure. That, by itself, impressed me so much I decided to
decloak soon after. After my rather unfortunate experiences on other
forums it was really very nice to find a place like A.L.F. Thank you all.
49. What do you like the most/least about alt.lifestyle.furry?
Most would be the people and how nice most everyone seems to be.
And I always enjoy most of the threads, whether on or off topic. Particularly
nice is those people who've e-mailed me with questions or just to say hi.
Thanks to all of those people, too.
Least would be the blazing rows that occasionally crop up. Still, like I say,
it's better than most anywhere else I've been in that respect. Oh, and the
fact that every time I make an ass of myself {figuratively speaking} it's
preserved for posterior...I mean, for posterity. O'course I should be used to
that by now.
50. What would you like to see more/less of in alt.lifestyle.furry?
More, well everyone seems to say more on-topic posts and I agree but I
know it's sometimes hard for me to come up with a good one. So I'm willing
to cut people some slack on this. More new furs, o'course. If anyone's
hiding out there I invite you to decloak and come on out to play.
Least, well I like least the pedantic political pissing contests that crop up
from time to time. I think it's good that so many furs are so politically minded
but it gets tiresome too sometimes.
Sexuality/Relationships
=======================
51. Describe your ideal partner.
Short answer: A friend.
Long answer: I don't really believe in "an ideal partner". If you start
getting into that sort of detail then you'll never really find anyone because
such things lead to your ignoring anyone who doesn't conform to your
ideals.
That being said there is a particular young wolf whom I hold a certain
degree of affection for. But, as things stand right now, it's doubtful I'll ever
tell her as it would very likely make things very difficult for her.
52. What type of furry sexual fantasies do you have?
Private ones. A skunk's gotta have a few secrets, after all. Besides they
tend to be rather mushy, romantic fantasies anyway, nothing that'd be of
any remote interest to anyone else.
Move along, nothing to see here...
53. Has your gender preference changed since discovering the furry
community?
Not really, no. I'm still pretty much heterosexual.
54. What species of animal do you find the sexiest?
You mean I have to pick only one?!
I'm not really terribly attracted to real animals, except humans. But with
regards to anthropomorphic animals I've a great deal of fondness for
spotted as well as striped skunks, rabbits and hares, weasels, horses
{especially the Welsh mountain pony}, squirrels, otters, cheetahs, foxes
{particularly swift, fennec, and arctic foxes}, snakes, greyhounds, and
many more. I'm a skunk of widely varied taste.
55. What part of an animal's body do you find the most attractive/sexy?
I like nice long tails {and little puff tails like the rabbits have, too} and
large ears. Fur is great {I can understand why someone might want to
wear it even if I find doing so objectionable. This probably makes me a
bad person.} Eyes are nice. Tongues and what can be done with them.
*blush* And...well, there's something to be said for most of the body in
some way or another really.
56. What cartoon characters are/were you attracted to?
Um... promise you won't laugh?
...
...
...
Sabrina. *Blush* I've had a pretty serious crush on her for almost a year
now. I know what I said under the ideal partner thing. But she comes as
close even as any real person I've ever met.
And that's me. I'll just go hide now while the laughter dies down.
Here's to another year.
--Rabbit *hides*
"Rabbits, like gods, are timid, But they are not easily beaten."
from "The Rabbit in the Moon"© M.Williams, 2003
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Got me thinking of a line from Monty Python and the Holy Grail for some
reason here.
"In the frozen land of Mador they were forced to eat Robin's minstrals and
there was much rejoicing. Yay"
> I thought it was later than that. It really doesn't seem like I've been
here
> any time at all. {It's sooo embarassing to read your own back posts,
> particularly the early ones! Ugh.} And Sabot, I didn't mean to give you
the
> wrong date on this. I forgot myself 'til now.
> So thanks to everyone who's put up with me for a year. You're stuck with
> me now. Mwahahahaha! I'll never go away! And to those who've come in
> more recently, thanks to all of y'all too.
> *Hugs*
Ok, your welcome, just make it a quick hug, I'm still getting used to this
concept.
> Anyway, below is a furvey just to celebrate this mile marker. And to
bore
> the pants off the lot of ya. Interested parties, read on. You've been
> forewarned. The rest, I'm sure, will go and do more constructive things
> with their time. Yup.
Well I do but I feel like wasting time right now so bore away.
>
> 2. What is your email address?
> Rabbi...@Hotmail.com If they wanna spam me, let 'em. At least it'd
> give the illusion of a full inbox. For once.
Thats my excuse too.
>
> 10. Are you a meat eater?
> On occasion, yes. Tho' I tend to prefer what is termed "rabbit food".
> Surprised?
>
If I say yes would you know I was lying?
> 33. Describe your ideal physical form.
> More and more I see myself, when I visualize this sort of thing at all,
as
> pretty much a normal animal in shape, either skunk or fox. It's just what
> feels right.
> But anthropomorphically I see myself most often as a spotted skunk of
> the same, rather unflattering, physical shape as my real body except with
> the obvious animal features. And only five feet tall 'cause that's the
height
> I want to be. {I'm weird, okay?}
So is everyone else in the world in their own way. I've been saying this for
years but for the first time here I will say.....
There is no such thing as normal.
Depending on my mood I see myself as
> having either the classic black and white fur or, sometimes, deep purple
> and white. {It's my favorite colour, 'kay?}
Purple or white? Not that there's anything wrong with it either way. Just
curious.
> As a swift fox I just tend to see myself as an anthro swift fox with
> somewhat oversize ears. Both forms with dark violet eyes 'cause I think
> that'd be pretty.
> Did I mention I'm weird?
Yeah.
>
> 39. Do you believe that you have an animal soul?
> Yes and no. I think that I was supposed to have been an animal. But I
> also think that a soul is more than whatever body it's in. So it's not
really as
> simple as having an animal or a human soul. A body can shape a soul and
> a soul can wind up in a different one than the one it was intended to
> inhabit. But it also transcends that. {Toldja I was weird.}
Ok, I beleive you, and I don't totally understand this though I'm gonna keep
running this through my brain till I get it.
>
> 49. What do you like the most/least about alt.lifestyle.furry?
> Least
Oh, and the
> fact that every time I make an ass of myself {figuratively speaking} it's
> preserved for posterior...I mean, for posterity. O'course I should be used
to
> that by now.
Oh why not, it makes it so much easier not to make an ass of yourself the
same way twice.
>
> 56. What cartoon characters are/were you attracted to?
> Um... promise you won't laugh?
I'll try really hard not to, I promise.
> ...
> ...
> ...
> Sabrina. *Blush* I've had a pretty serious crush on her for almost a
year
> now. I know what I said under the ideal partner thing. But she comes as
> close even as any real person I've ever met.
Thats not so bad.
>
> And that's me. I'll just go hide now while the laughter dies down.
> Here's to another year.
> --Rabbit *hides*
Well anyways, congrats on a year here Rabbit and may you have many more.
Peace,
Fee
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"How many people here have telekenetic powers? Raise my hand." - Emo Philips
http://www.reversebias.com/~sydrayne/ROFmain.html
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>5. Where do you live?
> Bourbon County, Kentucky. Better known as, the middle of friggin'
>nowhere. But the birthplace of the greatest alcoholic drink in existance,
>yes indeed!
No, I like Sambucca better.
>> They are legion. History's the big one, followed by mythology, etymology
>{word histories} and general wordplay, languages, art, music, writing,
>animals {particularly skunks, foxes, rabbits, and any animal that can run
>/fast/}, anthropology, travel, archaeology, and on and on and on.
Show us your art please.
> I'm a professional temp. *Sigh* Currently I'm assigned to working for the
>vast, faceless beaurocracy that is the Kentucky Education System. The
>ingrates.
Working in education Su><><or, I can garuntee you'll go bald by the
age of 31.
>8. How would you describe your personality?
> In a word: Mercurial. I'm pretty shy and withdrawn around people I don't
>know. Around people I do know I'm really rather extroverted. I'll raise a
>paw to having a quick temper too, though it's equally quick to cool off.
Do you Threaten people if they talk bout chaw Ma?
---
There was no real chance,
Ashes to ashes, and dust will be dust
Ashes to ashes, you all will be dust
> 5. Where do you live?
> Bourbon County, Kentucky. Better known as, the middle of
> friggin'
> nowhere. But the birthplace of the greatest alcoholic drink in
> existance, yes indeed!
<chokes quietly>
> 8. How would you describe your personality?
> In a word: Mercurial. I'm pretty shy and withdrawn around people
> I don't
> know. Around people I do know I'm really rather extroverted. I'll
> raise a paw to having a quick temper too, though it's equally
> quick to cool off.
Hmmm, my paw has a pretty quick temper too... but it's not a patch on
my maw's! <bows *just* in time for a volley of rotten fruit to splat
him full in the face>
> 19. Describe your favourite/ideal 'furry' appearance.
> A furry-themed t-shirt and a nice fluffy skunk tail would do it
> for me. I'm
> not big on fursuits and I don't like the idea of collars 'cause I
> don't think things that are too tight 'round my neck. And I can't,
> for the life of me, imagine why a skunk would wear a collar
> anyway.
Collar = snare. That's how I rationalise my own aversion to even
thinking about wearing the things, though I'm sure it's equally as
half-baked as many of my other rationalisations. I don't even like
wearing ties, actually.
> Depending on my mood I see myself as having either the classic
> black and white fur or, sometimes, deep purple and white. {It's my
> favorite colour, 'kay?}
Purple and white? Nice colourscheme. I thought of making some
amazingly witty remark here about Jaguars, as their Le Mans cars used
that colourscheme for some years, but amazingly witty remarks just
don't mesh well with me. Half-witted remarks are another matter.
> And I love spiders.
<huge cheers, deafening fireworks, mighty fanfares, etc>
Well, all right, I can't say I *love* spiders: admiration is as far
as it goes. But it does make a change from "urgh, yuk"...
> I think it's good that so many furs are so
> politically minded but it gets tiresome too sometimes.
And of course I'm reading this thing just a little while after going
against my better judgement (yep, I do have one. It's just a little
bit rusty from so little use) and getting involved in a political
thread I'd promised myself I'd stay out of... master of timing,
that's me.
Anyway, cheers for that, Rabbit. I'm sure posterity will be kind to
you, and remind you of your wise words at every conceivable
opportunity. And if not, we servants of posterity will be glad to
assist it...
--
Remove all the drivel to reply. "An m'draothai ethile hlal" ("But
first they must catch you") - from the Blessing of El-ahrairah
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> As of last Sunday, Feb 9., according to a search on Google Groups, I've
> been here for a year. Let there be much rejoicing.
*the tawny cougar rejoices and dances while swinging tail* woohoo! :)
> So thanks to everyone who's put up with me for a year. You're stuck with
> me now. Mwahahahaha! I'll never go away!
uh-oh ;)
Thats cool with this cougar,Rabbit.
*reads the rest of furvey*
Thanks for the updated furvey, heres to many more!
--
- F J Cougar-
> > 10. Are you a meat eater?
> > On occasion, yes. Tho' I tend to prefer what is termed "rabbit food".
> > Surprised?
> >
> If I say yes would you know I was lying?
>
No. I can pretend, anyway.
> > 33. Describe your ideal physical form.
> > More and more I see myself, when I visualize this sort of thing at all,
> as
> > pretty much a normal animal in shape, either skunk or fox. It's just what
> > feels right.
> > But anthropomorphically I see myself most often as a spotted skunk
of
> > the same, rather unflattering, physical shape as my real body except
with
> > the obvious animal features. And only five feet tall 'cause that's the
> height
> > I want to be. {I'm weird, okay?}
>
> So is everyone else in the world in their own way. I've been saying this
for
> years but for the first time here I will say.....
>
> There is no such thing as normal.
>
Oh, I agree whole heartedly. I just like saying it. I'm weird!
Normality is subjective.
> Depending on my mood I see myself as
> > having either the classic black and white fur or, sometimes, deep
purple
> > and white. {It's my favorite colour, 'kay?}
>
> Purple or white? Not that there's anything wrong with it either way. Just
> curious.
>
Both. Purple instead of black fur with the typically white areas of the
skunk still white.
> > 39. Do you believe that you have an animal soul?
> > Yes and no. I think that I was supposed to have been an animal. But
I
> > also think that a soul is more than whatever body it's in. So it's not
> really as
> > simple as having an animal or a human soul. A body can shape a soul
and
> > a soul can wind up in a different one than the one it was intended to
> > inhabit. But it also transcends that. {Toldja I was weird.}
>
> Ok, I beleive you, and I don't totally understand this though I'm gonna
keep
> running this through my brain till I get it.
> >
Basically I think that your soul is not limited by your body. Your body is
just sort of a vessel of sorts. Thus the soul is not necessarily confined to
any set body. There is no such thing as a purely human or a purely animal
soul, at least that's what I believe. But even so I believe that, in my case, I
was meant to inhabit a different body that this one. Um... I'm still kinda
thinkin' on this one, so sorry to cause confusion.
> Well anyways, congrats on a year here Rabbit and may you have many
more.
>
Thanks.
--Rabbit
> > 19. Describe your favourite/ideal 'furry' appearance.
> > A furry-themed t-shirt and a nice fluffy skunk tail would do it
> > for me. I'm
> > not big on fursuits and I don't like the idea of collars 'cause I
> > don't think things that are too tight 'round my neck. And I can't,
> > for the life of me, imagine why a skunk would wear a collar
> > anyway.
>
> Collar = snare. That's how I rationalise my own aversion to even
> thinking about wearing the things, though I'm sure it's equally as
> half-baked as many of my other rationalisations. I don't even like
> wearing ties, actually.
>
Sounds like a pretty good reason to me. I /might/ try the collar thing
once, just for the hell of it. But ties are nasty and I refuse to ever wear one
again.
> > Depending on my mood I see myself as having either the classic
> > black and white fur or, sometimes, deep purple and white. {It's my
> > favorite colour, 'kay?}
>
> Purple and white? Nice colourscheme. I thought of making some
> amazingly witty remark here about Jaguars, as their Le Mans cars used
> that colourscheme for some years, but amazingly witty remarks just
> don't mesh well with me. Half-witted remarks are another matter.
>
Now that sounds like a pretty car. 'Round here people always pair up
purple and yellow on their vehicles and it just looks awful, in my opinion.
You don't see too many Jaguars 'round here, tho'. I don't know why. My
old Latin teacher in high school drove one and that's the last one I've
seen.
Anyway, I'm no good at thinking up witty remarks either. Snappy
comebacks and witty banter always comes to me hours too late. But it's
like I've always said, half a wit's better than none at all!
> > And I love spiders.
>
> <huge cheers, deafening fireworks, mighty fanfares, etc>
>
> Well, all right, I can't say I *love* spiders: admiration is as far
> as it goes. But it does make a change from "urgh, yuk"...
>
I know. {Didn't these people ever read "Charlotte's Web"?} I dunno why
people are so averse to 'em. I used to know one guy who'd freak out at
the mere mention of the word. Myself, I've always been fascinated by 'em.
'Specially the golden garden spiders that always build their webs 'round
the house. And the Grandaddy Longlegs which are /amazingly/ poisonous
little critters but since they don't have strong enough jaws to pierce human
skin they're also perfectly harmless, to people anyway. I do encourage
spiders to stay outside the house but that's 'cause you have big clumsy
humans running around inside and I don't want them to get squished. And
I don't like walking into webs, but that's because I always feel a bit guilty
for destroying something some poor spider spent hours working on.
> > I think it's good that so many furs are so
> > politically minded but it gets tiresome too sometimes.
>
> And of course I'm reading this thing just a little while after going
> against my better judgement (yep, I do have one. It's just a little
> bit rusty from so little use) and getting involved in a political
> thread I'd promised myself I'd stay out of... master of timing,
> that's me.
>
Oh, I don't mean this against any particular fur. I'm not even averse to
political discussion. If my U.S. Government class taught me anything it's
that people should take a greater interest in politics. But what I object to it
when these political wranglings take over and strangle someone else's
thread. Of course I'm not about to try to dictate posting policies. That's as
effective as herding cats, as the old saying goes. I'm just making a
statement of personal preference.
> Anyway, cheers for that, Rabbit. I'm sure posterity will be kind to
> you, and remind you of your wise words at every conceivable
> opportunity. And if not, we servants of posterity will be glad to
> assist it...
>
Thanks, Loganberry. As soon as I think of some wise words, I'll let you
know.
--Rabbit
Well Monty Python makes for a good reference all the time. Thats one reason
I know most of the lines by heart.
>
> > "In the frozen land of Mador they were forced to eat Robin's minstrals
> and
> > there was much rejoicing. Yay"
> >
> It has been too long since I saw that movie.
If it's been more than a year then I insist you go watch it in the next
couple days, it's one of those movies you need to see every so often.
>
> > > I thought it was later than that. It really doesn't seem like I've
been
> > here
> > > any time at all. {It's sooo embarassing to read your own back posts,
> > > particularly the early ones! Ugh.} And Sabot, I didn't mean to give
you
> > the
> > > wrong date on this. I forgot myself 'til now.
> > > So thanks to everyone who's put up with me for a year. You're stuck
> with
> > > me now. Mwahahahaha! I'll never go away! And to those who've
> come in
> > > more recently, thanks to all of y'all too.
> > > *Hugs*
> >
> > Ok, your welcome, just make it a quick hug, I'm still getting used to
this
> > concept.
> >
> Oh, the hug's purely optional, of course.
>
Well in that case, how about a handshake instead? *Puts forth hand*
>
> > > 10. Are you a meat eater?
> > > On occasion, yes. Tho' I tend to prefer what is termed "rabbit
food".
> > > Surprised?
> > >
> > If I say yes would you know I was lying?
> >
> No. I can pretend, anyway.
>
Oh good. Then yes, I am.
> > > 33. Describe your ideal physical form.
> > > More and more I see myself, when I visualize this sort of thing at
all,
> > as
> > > pretty much a normal animal in shape, either skunk or fox. It's just
what
> > > feels right.
> > > But anthropomorphically I see myself most often as a spotted skunk
> of
> > > the same, rather unflattering, physical shape as my real body except
> with
> > > the obvious animal features. And only five feet tall 'cause that's the
> > height
> > > I want to be. {I'm weird, okay?}
> >
> > So is everyone else in the world in their own way. I've been saying this
> for
> > years but for the first time here I will say.....
> >
> > There is no such thing as normal.
> >
> Oh, I agree whole heartedly. I just like saying it. I'm weird!
> Normality is subjective.
Ahh, you enjoy it. Well then umm, on to the next bit.
>
> > Depending on my mood I see myself as
> > > having either the classic black and white fur or, sometimes, deep
> purple
> > > and white. {It's my favorite colour, 'kay?}
> >
> > Purple or white? Not that there's anything wrong with it either way.
Just
> > curious.
> >
> Both. Purple instead of black fur with the typically white areas of the
> skunk still white.
Oh, cool.
>
> > > 39. Do you believe that you have an animal soul?
> > > Yes and no. I think that I was supposed to have been an animal. But
> I
> > > also think that a soul is more than whatever body it's in. So it's not
> > really as
> > > simple as having an animal or a human soul. A body can shape a soul
> and
> > > a soul can wind up in a different one than the one it was intended to
> > > inhabit. But it also transcends that. {Toldja I was weird.}
> >
> > Ok, I beleive you, and I don't totally understand this though I'm gonna
> keep
> > running this through my brain till I get it.
> > >
> Basically I think that your soul is not limited by your body. Your body
is
> just sort of a vessel of sorts. Thus the soul is not necessarily confined
to
> any set body. There is no such thing as a purely human or a purely animal
> soul, at least that's what I believe. But even so I believe that, in my
case, I
> was meant to inhabit a different body that this one. Um... I'm still kinda
> thinkin' on this one, so sorry to cause confusion.
Hmmmm, yes, I think I get it now. Sounds most interesting, wonder if this'll
find a place in my meshed-from-many-religions-and-things-I've-heard-said
belief system (probably, I'm always picking up little things here and there
that add to what I think somehow).
>
> > Well anyways, congrats on a year here Rabbit and may you have many
> more.
> >
> Thanks.
> --Rabbit
Peace,
Fee
-------------------------------------------
"How many people here have telekenetic powers? Raise my hand."
> Anyway, below is a furvey just to celebrate this mile marker. And to bore
> the pants off the lot of ya. Interested parties, read on. You've been
> forewarned. The rest, I'm sure, will go and do more constructive things
> with their time. Yup.
>
I'm takin' mah chances!!
>
> Yourself
> ========
> 1. What is your name?
> I'm rather partial to just Rabbit, really. You can call me Rabbitswift if you
> wanna be all formal about it. {You can call me anything, just don't call me
> late for dinner!}
>
*wears a monocle, top hat & tuxedo*
Greetings, Rabbitswift.
> 8. How would you describe your personality?
> In a word: Mercurial. I'm pretty shy and withdrawn around people I don't
> know. Around people I do know I'm really rather extroverted. I'll raise a
> paw to having a quick temper too, though it's equally quick to cool off.
>
Hey, I just learned a new word to describe my personality.
Thanks Rabbit!
> 10. Are you a meat eater?
> On occasion, yes. Tho' I tend to prefer what is termed "rabbit food".
> Surprised?
>
"Rabbit food"? ...Whoa, you mean you eat those pellets?!
> 14. What types of furry media do you create?
> Poetry, mostly animal-themed as opposed to anthro. And I've tried my
> paw at writing a longer story with minimal success.
>
Want to post some more of your poetry? Or start a webpage if you
have alot of it? I really liked Rabbit in the Moon; I'd love
to see more of your work.
> 16. Describe your ideal plushie.
> I'm not really as in to plush stuff as a lot of furs. It'd be nice to find a
> spotted skunk plush, tho'. Or a swif fox. Lots o' luck.
>
Yeah.. I doubt I'll ever see a gray fox plush with
the proper markings/coloration. We'd probably have
to make plushes of those lesser-known types ourselves.
> 19. Describe your favourite/ideal 'furry' appearance.
> A furry-themed t-shirt and a nice fluffy skunk tail would do it for me. I'm
> not big on fursuits and I don't like the idea of collars 'cause I don't think
> things that are too tight 'round my neck. And I can't, for the life of me,
> imagine why a skunk would wear a collar anyway.
>
They're for when skunks get accepted as 'normal' pets, so people
will be able to walk them down the streets. =>
> 33. Describe your ideal physical form.
> More and more I see myself, when I visualize this sort of thing at all, as
> pretty much a normal animal in shape, either skunk or fox. It's just what
> feels right.
> But anthropomorphically I see myself most often as a spotted skunk of
> the same, rather unflattering, physical shape as my real body except with
> the obvious animal features. And only five feet tall 'cause that's the height
> I want to be. {I'm weird, okay?} Depending on my mood I see myself as
> having either the classic black and white fur or, sometimes, deep purple
> and white. {It's my favorite colour, 'kay?}
> As a swift fox I just tend to see myself as an anthro swift fox with
> somewhat oversize ears. Both forms with dark violet eyes 'cause I think
> that'd be pretty.
> Did I mention I'm weird?
>
Purple is a neat color, I don't think I've seen a purple
skunk before..
> And that's me. I'll just go hide now while the laughter dies down.
> Here's to another year.
> --Rabbit *hides*
Happy anniversary, Rabbit! I hope you'll stick around for
a while, I enjoy reading your posts alot.
>> > 5. Where do you live?
>> > Bourbon County, Kentucky. Better known as, the middle of
>> > friggin'
>> > nowhere. But the birthplace of the greatest alcoholic drink in
>> > existance, yes indeed!
>>
>> <chokes quietly>
>>
> Not fond of alcohol, I take it?
Oh no, quite the reverse. The quiet choking was on behalf of my
Scottish friends... =;)
As for alcohol in general, it and epilepsy don't make
particularly good bedfellows, so the docs won't let me drink much
(two pints of cider is about the limit, really), but I reckon that's
a good thing, as it lets me appreciate it more, and I don't get
drunk. Swings and roundabouts really: it's like not being able to
drive - on the one hand, I have to endure Britain's generally
appalling public transport network, but on the other I can read,
drink, sleep etc on the way to and from work. And I like trains
anyway, to be honest.
<snip>
> ties are nasty and I refuse to
> ever wear one again.
Lucky you to have that option. Wish I did. I don't think I've ever
worn a tie on an informal occasion, but then I don't wear all that
many clothes in general if I can possibly get away with it and the
weather isn't too dismal (hah). It's years since I routinely wore
anything on my feet in the house, for example, even though I did step
rather heavily on an upturned drawing pin yesterday... =:O
>> Purple and white? Nice colourscheme. I thought of making some
>> amazingly witty remark here about Jaguars,
<snip>
> Now that sounds like a pretty car. 'Round here people always
> pair up
> purple and yellow on their vehicles and it just looks awful, in my
> opinion.
Ah. They did have yellow on as well, actually, so maybe you won't
like it so much as you might have done. Here's a pic of one at a
race meeting at Donington Park in Leicestershire:
http://www.motorpics.co.uk/jagpg03.htm
And now I come to think of it, purple and yellow was the official
scheme for the Queen's Golden Jubilee last year - some of the buses
in Birmingham were painted in it for the occasion, and it did look
quite nice, especially on the double-deckers.
[spiders]
> I know. {Didn't these people ever read "Charlotte's Web"?} I
> dunno why people are so averse to 'em.
I suppose it's the old "strange-scuttling-non-mammal-thing" syndrome
again. I can understand it if you're Australian, though, given that
it seems to be quite difficult to find an Aussie animal of any kind
that *isn't* incredibly deadly in one way or another... but that
keeps the likes of Steve Irwin off the streets, I suppose.
> 6. What are your interests/hobbies?
> They are legion. History's the big one, followed by mythology, etymology
> {word histories} and general wordplay, languages, art, music, writing,
> animals {particularly skunks, foxes, rabbits, and any animal that can run
> /fast/}, anthropology, travel, archaeology, and on and on and on.
Your hobbies rule. What kind of anthroplogy and archaeology
interests you the most?
> 10. Are you a meat eater?
> On occasion, yes. Tho' I tend to prefer what is termed "rabbit food".
> Surprised?
Yah, considering.... YOU'RE A SKUNK!!! (No offense)
> 11. Who are your favourite furry characters?
> Sabrina is at the top, no question.
Okay okay, I know I'm a dork, but who's Sabrina? I have seen
so many furs mention her in their furveys, but I never heard of her
elsewhere.
> If I wanna stretch it I might say before then too. I always kinda liked
> animals better than people.
You're in good company.
> 28. How does your furriness manifest itself externally?
> It doesn't, really. I don't howl at the moon or growl or make little cat
> noises. I don't walk digitigrade partly because I've got a bad ankle but
> mostly 'cause I'm clumsy enough when I walk plantigrade. Furriness is, for
> me, a mental/emotional/spiritual thing for the most part.
I understand, it's the same for me! But I do make cute noises,
out of habit. Merf.
> 35. Is your furriness compatible with your religion?
> Er... I don't have a religion. I've something of a spiritual side, true. I
> believe in the soul. But I'm also fairly agnostic and I tend to be wary of
> anything like organized religion.
That is wise, IMO.
> 40. What animals are you most/least comfortable with?
> I've always been pretty comfortable around dogs and cats having lived
> with them for all of my life. I love horses, which should go without saying,
> and for the longest time I harbored desires of working with them in some
> capactity. Ferrets and weasels are great even when they try to run down
> your shirt. I've never met too many skunks but they've never seemed too
> fussed about with me. I like rats and mice. Snakes are great. And I love
> spiders.
Yay! You said snakes are great!!! ^ _ ^
> "Rabbits, like gods, are timid, But they are not easily beaten."
True dat. That was an awesome poem, BTW.
~ Onza
>~<*>===========================oooo
> > 11. Who are your favourite furry characters?
> > Sabrina is at the top, no question.
>
> Okay okay, I know I'm a dork, but who's Sabrina? I have seen
> so many furs mention her in their furveys, but I never heard of her
> elsewhere.
>
Heh, you're not a dork Onza. If either of us is, I am for being the
shameless drooling fanboy that I am. Sabrina is the main character of a
comic strip called "Sabrina Online" by Eric Schwartz. http://www.sabrina-
online.com/ It's pretty much a romantic comedy and it's pretty cute, I think.
She's a skunk {of course}.
> > If I wanna stretch it I might say before then too. I always kinda liked
> > animals better than people.
>
> You're in good company.
>
Yup. Odd I guess considering I was a farm boy. Some of the kids I went
to high school with were farmers, too, and while they were good at what
they did they sorta saw their animals as more meat and money than living,
feeling creatures. But I still like cows even after having to slog after them
at 8:00am in knee-deep snow.
> > 28. How does your furriness manifest itself externally?
> > It doesn't, really. I don't howl at the moon or growl or make little cat
> > noises. I don't walk digitigrade partly because I've got a bad ankle but
> > mostly 'cause I'm clumsy enough when I walk plantigrade. Furriness is,
for
> > me, a mental/emotional/spiritual thing for the most part.
>
> I understand, it's the same for me! But I do make cute noises,
> out of habit. Merf.
>
Well, sometimes I do to. But it's a conscious thing, not something I
attribute to being a fur. I don't claim that other furs who do this are just
making stuff up. But you knew that. I only speak for myself.
> > 35. Is your furriness compatible with your religion?
> > Er... I don't have a religion. I've something of a spiritual side, true. I
> > believe in the soul. But I'm also fairly agnostic and I tend to be wary of
> > anything like organized religion.
>
> That is wise, IMO.
>
This is my parents fault. They elected to raise me in such a way that I
could choose my own path instead of forcing me to go along with what
they believed. Which is why I think that I ended up agreeing with a lot of
what they believe in actually.
I'm not really anti-organized religion per se. I think that if the structure
helps some people then it's a good thing. But I've always just prefered to
go with what I felt in my heart instead of relying on any outside sources. If
there is a god or gods then I've always felt this was the clearer path to
whatever they wished anyway.
> > 40. What animals are you most/least comfortable with?
> > I've always been pretty comfortable around dogs and cats having
lived
> > with them for all of my life. I love horses, which should go without
saying,
> > and for the longest time I harbored desires of working with them in
some
> > capactity. Ferrets and weasels are great even when they try to run
down
> > your shirt. I've never met too many skunks but they've never seemed
too
> > fussed about with me. I like rats and mice. Snakes are great. And I
love
> > spiders.
>
> Yay! You said snakes are great!!! ^ _ ^
>
They are great. I used to have a snake whom we rescued from the
clutches of some cat and was too wounded to be released. *Sigh* He
{she? we never did know} was just a little garter snake but I think that's
about the time I decided I really liked 'em. And the reason why. I've never
seen anything bigger than a corn snake in the wild but I've always liked
the bigger ones too. Boas are neat. Cottonmouths are great too. I don't
know if we have any rattlesnakes around here. I think they're a more
western snake. But they and cobras have been my favorites for the
longest time.
> > "Rabbits, like gods, are timid, But they are not easily beaten."
>
> True dat. That was an awesome poem, BTW.
>
Thanks. I'm surprised it was so well recieved actually. It was just
something that I tossed together really. I spent a little time polishing it but
this was the first time anyone else had ever seen it. But it's alway nice
when poem goes over well. So thanks, again.
--Rabbit
"Rabbits, like gods, are timid, But they are not easily beaten."
AFAIK the Sabrina being referenced is the comic "Sabrina Online" currently
operating from:
http://www.coax.net/people/erics/Sabrina.htm
For bandwidths sake please pick somewhere from the list of mirrors given.
--
Mort [ dicecat at lycos . co . uk ] |\ _,,,---,,_
/,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_
"Never attribute to furryness what can be |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-'
adequately explained by humanity." '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL
"Rabbits, like gods, are timid, But they are not easily beaten."
<snip>
> As for public transportation...what's that? The city where I
> work has city
> busses and they've done quite a bit to promote them. But we don't
> have anything like passenger trains much anymore. Which is a pity,
> really. But it's what I get for living in a state that's mostly
> rural I guess.
Probably something to do with the size of the country - European
countries are just the right size for train journeys, and although
budget airlines have made some inroads for the longer distances (say
over 300 miles), the delays associated with increased airport
security of late have brought some people back to the railways - at
least you don't need to show your passport every time you get on a
train! Plus there's the "turn up and go" factor - turning up at
Birmingham Airport and saying "I want a ticket for the Glasgow plane
that leaves in 15 minutes" isn't going to get you very far! =;)
> Oh, well, just take jobs that are described as "light
> industrial" and you'll
> not have that problem. It's partly the same reason that I had to
> cut my hair. If you work around machines with "moving parts", that
> is copy machines, then OSHA {or whatever is your local equivalent}
> standards dictate that you not wear anything that could get caught
> in them.
<snip>
Copy machines? As in normal office photocopiers? I don't think the
Health & Safety Executive (our equivalent body) say anything about
that - certainly 99% of men who use them have ties on. If I was
working with lathes or looms or something it'd be a different story,
but I don't get the option of weaving carpets in my spare time in a
corner of the office... shame, actually.
> Oh, I dunno. I've known some professors who really seemed to love what
>they did. What /sucks/ is that teachers don't get paid near what they
>deserve. Particularly when you have people who get paid millions just for
>being able to play some kind of silly sport. Personally I'm of the opinion that
>teachers should be paid what they pay sports stars and the sports stars
>should just do it because they enjoy it. Not that anyone'll listen to me.
Teaching is Good, but not the endless paperwork or the overwork.
My father Left being a head of department at a college because of
that.
He's a temp now, But he had a hard time getting to be one cause they
thought he was overqualified.
> I'm not sure of the proper terms. But on the anthropology end I've always
> just been interested in how people lived. To me, history is about more than
> kings and dates and battles. Those things are important. But when one
> examines say the European Middle Ages my interests veer less towards
> who was king and who did he fight and more towards how did people
> live? What kind of society did they have, what kinds of work did they do,
> etc., etc., etc. When I did a paper on Eastern Kentucky during the
> Second World War I chose to focus on how the war affected women and
> the kinds of work they did before, during, and after. So things of that
> nature. It's a budding interest really.
> As to archaelogy as a kit I was really interested in the dinosaurs. Which is
> what got me started in history in the first place. I still enjoy that. But I also
> avidly watch anything to do with shipwrecks, destroyed cities, and so on.
> The last thing I watched on NOVA {I think it was} of that nature was an
> examination of the fire in Rome that Nero was supposed to have set.
> So really, anything that comes my way.
Ah, Western Civ. That's good, then we won't be stealing
each other's work!!!!! I am mainly interested in Pre-Columbian
cultures. You are right that history is usually too concerned about
kings and significant events, but I feel that the everyday lives of
people are also part of history because they tell us about the way the
world was in the past. In one of my classes, History was defined as a
study based on written records, but this could be anything from
government treaties to grocery shopping lists.
> > > 11. Who are your favourite furry characters?
> > > Sabrina is at the top, no question.
> >
> > Okay okay, I know I'm a dork, but who's Sabrina? I have seen
> > so many furs mention her in their furveys, but I never heard of her
> > elsewhere.
> >
> Heh, you're not a dork Onza. If either of us is, I am for being the
> shameless drooling fanboy that I am. Sabrina is the main character of a
> comic strip called "Sabrina Online" by Eric Schwartz. http://www.sabrina-
> online.com/ It's pretty much a romantic comedy and it's pretty cute, I think.
> She's a skunk {of course}.
Okay, so I clicked on the link provided by Mort. Sabrina
doesn't wear any pants!!!! At first I couldn't tell what the big deal
is; then I started reading, starting with the most recent, then going
backward. It's not my type of genre, but I got sucked into it anyway!
The fact that the characters are furries makes it a lot more
interesting. I read a lot, and stopped sometime after reading about
Sabrina spraying the mugger. I think RC is cute, even though I'm not
normally into raccoons. What the hell kind of animal is ZigZag
supposed to be? A civet?
> > I understand, it's the same for me! But I do make cute noises,
> > out of habit. Merf.
> >
> Well, sometimes I do to. But it's a conscious thing, not something I
> attribute to being a fur. I don't claim that other furs who do this are just
> making stuff up. But you knew that. I only speak for myself.
No, it's the same for me. I mainly just make cute noises
because it gets a reaction from my mate! A good reaction.
> > That is wise, IMO.
> >
> This is my parents fault. They elected to raise me in such a way that I
> could choose my own path instead of forcing me to go along with what
> they believed. Which is why I think that I ended up agreeing with a lot of
> what they believe in actually.
> I'm not really anti-organized religion per se. I think that if the structure
> helps some people then it's a good thing. But I've always just prefered to
> go with what I felt in my heart instead of relying on any outside sources. If
> there is a god or gods then I've always felt this was the clearer path to
> whatever they wished anyway.
I might as well have written that. Isn't it great? I am
very thankful that my parents didn't tell me what to believe. I think
that people should believe what's in their heart, not what's in
somebody else's heart, especially if it travelled through a bazillion
other people who never thought about looking at other cultures'
beliefs.
> > Yay! You said snakes are great!!! ^ _ ^
> >
> They are great. I used to have a snake whom we rescued from the
> clutches of some cat and was too wounded to be released. *Sigh* He
> {she? we never did know} was just a little garter snake but I think that's
> about the time I decided I really liked 'em. And the reason why. I've never
> seen anything bigger than a corn snake in the wild but I've always liked
> the bigger ones too. Boas are neat. Cottonmouths are great too. I don't
> know if we have any rattlesnakes around here. I think they're a more
> western snake. But they and cobras have been my favorites for the
> longest time.
There are rattlesnakes through much of the country. There are
East Coast species, such as the Eastern Diamondback and the Pygmy
Rattlesnake in the southeast. Near DC where my home is, the only
venomous snake is the unthreatening copperhead. But 2 hours away, at
my university in the Shennendoah Valley, I think is in the range of
Timber Rattlesnakes. I haven't seen one yet, but I would like to.
~ Onza
>~<*>=============================ooo
> Oh, I dunno. I've known some professors who really seemed to love
what
>they did. What /sucks/ is that teachers don't get paid near what they
>deserve. Particularly when you have people who get paid millions just
for
>being able to play some kind of silly sport. Personally I'm of the
opinion that
>teachers should be paid what they pay sports stars and the sports
stars
>should just do it because they enjoy it. Not that anyone'll listen to
me.
Right...muh daddy was a college professor.Let me explain it to
you.SPorts stars bring in huge amounts of cash because fans fill
stadiums to see games played.Its a supply & demand thingy.
Teachers lecture to smaller groups and there are HUGE administrative
costs involved.I agree in theory but realise the actuality of the
economics.
~Prince Snuhwolf~
Actually I'd love to do some more reading into that. My college didn't offer
a lot of non-Western history courses. Which is kinda typical. The two I had
was first an art history class that mostly dealt with Mayan and Aztec
cultures as well as a few others like the Hopewell. Second was a labor
history class on South America. My main focus there ended up being
Guatemala and the United Fruit Company. The end result being I'll never
look at bananas quite the same way again.
The main reason I got into Western civ history is because my Junior
Seminar history class was devoted entirely to the Celts. That kinda
coloured the rest of my time at college as I got intensely interested in such
esoteric subjects as Brehon law. Much of which is remarkably similar to
much of the laws we have here in the States actually. I probably won't be
writing too many papers on pre-Columbian civilizations, you can rest easy
on that. But I'd love to learn more. The time period is roughly the same one
I work in and the little bit of Mayan mythology that I got in my art history
class was truly fascinating.
You are right that history is usually too concerned about
> kings and significant events, but I feel that the everyday lives of
> people are also part of history because they tell us about the way the
> world was in the past. In one of my classes, History was defined as a
> study based on written records, but this could be anything from
> government treaties to grocery shopping lists.
>
I like that analogy. Sounds like you had at least one good professor
anyway. I was pretty fortunatey in that respect myself. The history
department at Morehead was probably the best one they had, in my
opinion.
> > > > 11. Who are your favourite furry characters?
> > > > Sabrina is at the top, no question.
> > >
> > > Okay okay, I know I'm a dork, but who's Sabrina? I have seen
> > > so many furs mention her in their furveys, but I never heard of her
> > > elsewhere.
> > >
> > Heh, you're not a dork Onza. If either of us is, I am for being the
> > shameless drooling fanboy that I am. Sabrina is the main character of a
> > comic strip called "Sabrina Online" by Eric Schwartz.
http://www.sabrina-
> > online.com/ It's pretty much a romantic comedy and it's pretty cute, I
think.
> > She's a skunk {of course}.
>
> Okay, so I clicked on the link provided by Mort. Sabrina
> doesn't wear any pants!!!!
Heh. Yes she does. That's something of a running joke actually. She just
wears pants that match her fur pattern. Just read a little more and it's
mentioned at some point. Actually I thought they made mention of it before
the mugger scene, too.
At first I couldn't tell what the big deal
> is; then I started reading, starting with the most recent, then going
> backward. It's not my type of genre, but I got sucked into it anyway!
I know. In general I'm not a big fan of romantic stuff. And the computer
stuff is rather lost on me. But I just found the characters to be so engaging
that suddenly I was hooked. I spent the whole of last February reading the
back story to S.O and to a few other comics I came across. What's more I
found that I actually cared about the characters, and I still do. Which is
something that's hard to pull off especially in a comic. {I never read things
like Marvel or DC comics, not 'cause I don't like comics but because I
don't care enough about the characters to keep reading.}
> The fact that the characters are furries makes it a lot more
> interesting. I read a lot, and stopped sometime after reading about
> Sabrina spraying the mugger. I think RC is cute, even though I'm not
> normally into raccoons. What the hell kind of animal is ZigZag
> supposed to be? A civet?
>
She's a skunk but I believe her grandfather is s'posed to have been a
tiger. She's actually the intellectual property of another artist that was
brought in. She's got a pretty big fan following herself and even has a
Yahoo group or something devoted to her. But the thing is she's a lot, ah,
tamer in S.O. which is why I don't know as much about her outside of the
context of that comic. So I could have it partly wrong but I know she's at
least partly a skunk.
> > go with what I felt in my heart instead of relying on any outside
sources. If
> > there is a god or gods then I've always felt this was the clearer path to
> > whatever they wished anyway.
>
> I might as well have written that. Isn't it great? I am
> very thankful that my parents didn't tell me what to believe. I think
> that people should believe what's in their heart, not what's in
> somebody else's heart, especially if it travelled through a bazillion
> other people who never thought about looking at other cultures'
> beliefs.
>
Oh, yes. I have respect for another's beliefs of course. And I guess I can
see how it might be tempting to give your kids a nudge in the same
direction you followed. I just think the way to do that is to let them come to
their own conclusions. That way they're less likely to resist and less likely
to develop a negative self image. I've known some people who were
pretty unhappy because of what their parents had tried to get them to do.
And of course I think it's important to look at other cultures and other
beliefs no matter what your spiritual beliefs. Western culture isn't the only
one that's had good ideas in its time.
> There are rattlesnakes through much of the country. There are
> East Coast species, such as the Eastern Diamondback and the Pygmy
> Rattlesnake in the southeast. Near DC where my home is, the only
> venomous snake is the unthreatening copperhead. But 2 hours away,
at
> my university in the Shennendoah Valley, I think is in the range of
> Timber Rattlesnakes. I haven't seen one yet, but I would like to.
>
Me too. I /so/ need to read up on snakes. *Adds to his ever growing 'to-
do' list.* Whatever we've got around here they must be pretty shy. Or
p'raps there's better hunting or something elsewhere. I rarely ever see 'em
around the farm. But then if I were a snake I don't think I'd show myself to
the big clumsy-footed humans, either.
There were probably lots around my university though. Its right in the
middle of the Daniel Boone National Forest and there's a fair amount of
undisturbed land around. There were deer, certainly, usually near the
university library.
<snip>
> You're up late, aren't you? Must be nice.
> --Rabbit
Well, I have to fit round what the company wants, which in turn
depends on what the clients want, and for the moment that means
skewing the day a couple of hours later than "normal". So I don't
have to get up at 7am, which is nice on a cold February day, but on
the other hand I don't get home until 8pm. Swings and roundabouts,
really, but I'm happy (especially as the House of Commons has
*finally* voted to ban hare hunting with hounds, as well as coursing.
The Lords will try to block this, I'm sure, but for now... <blows
party streamer>)
> really, but I'm happy (especially as the House of Commons has
> *finally* voted to ban hare hunting with hounds, as well as coursing.
> The Lords will try to block this, I'm sure, but for now... <blows
> party streamer>)
Really?! I'm happy too!
*spins noise-grinder-thing*
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> Loganberry wrote:
>
>> really, but I'm happy (especially as the House of Commons has
>> *finally* voted to ban hare hunting with hounds, as well as
>> coursing. The Lords will try to block this, I'm sure, but for
>> now... <blows party streamer>)
>
> Really?! I'm happy too!
>
> *spins noise-grinder-thing*
Here we are - from the Daily Telegraph, whose editorial line is
solidly pro-"country sports", as can be seen from the people they ask
for comments, but whose actual news reporting seems to be pretty
accurate:
http://www.dailytelegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?
xml=/news/2003/02/14/nhunt14.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/02/14/ixhome.html
Ugh. Sounds like your day is about as much fun as mine is. Though I
don't think I work quite so many hours. I had one job which lasted from
6:00am to 6:00pm and all I did all day was clear paper jams. And discover
just how much Lexmark printers really suck.
Still at least it wasn't too hard. I almost miss it now. Almost.
(especially as the House of Commons has
> *finally* voted to ban hare hunting with hounds, as well as coursing.
> The Lords will try to block this, I'm sure, but for now... <blows
> party streamer>)
>
It's a start, anyway. The rich idiots will probably try to stop anything
remotely good or progressive that comes along in the country. Especially if
it interferes with their being able to kill things for no good reason. Very
much like in America, but then some would say I'm just a disaffected,
angry liberal. Damn straight.
Anyway, I'll keep my fingers crossed that maybe something goes right for
once. Those kinds of "sports" cheapen the whole of the human species
and they need to be done away with. So we can hope.
--Rabbit, ranting... again.
> Ugh. Sounds like your day is about as much fun as mine is.
> Though I
> don't think I work quite so many hours.
I'm not actually *at work* all that time - 30-60 minutes each way is
spent on the train into Birmingham.
I had one job which lasted
> from 6:00am to 6:00pm and all I did all day was clear paper jams.
> And discover just how much Lexmark printers really suck.
First PC printer I had was a Lexmark. Never again - Epson and HP all
the way since.
> It's a start, anyway. The rich idiots will probably try to stop
> anything
> remotely good or progressive that comes along in the country.
<snip>
The Countryside Alliance... I'm trying hard not to start steaming
here, but there are *so* many issues that are causing problems for
rural areas - local shops and post offices closing, lack of decent
bus services, flooding, the after-effects of foot & mouth, cottage
hospitals, mobile libraries, village schools... you name it. And when
they get 400,000 people into London for a march, they spend the whole
bloody time yelling about how banning fox-hunting would "destroy the
countryside," and none of those other issues get a mention. Hmmm,
looks like I failed to stop myself steaming...
> Those kinds of "sports" cheapen the whole of the human
> species and they need to be done away with. So we can hope.
> --Rabbit, ranting... again.
Waterloo Cup coming up, as well - the biggest hare-coursing event in
Britain. *Please* let this be the last one.
A quick glance through my local cache of that comic (which gave me the
oppertunity to introduce a non-furry house mate to Sabrina) tells me that
it was the 57th strip (and from 1998):
http://www.descent2.com/dorsola/sabrina/strips/sab057.gif
And no I wasn't trying to slack instead of working at all.
> Thanks. I actually went back and found it myself today. Guess I'm not
> the only fanboy around here! You've got good taste.
Thanks for the compliment. Indeed I stumbled across Sabrina a while back
and found myself quite enjoying it, its far more slow paced and romantic
than most of the webcomics I read, which makes a good change. (they're
generally quite strange and/or only funny to gamers/techy types).
>> And no I wasn't trying to slack instead of working at all.
>
> Er... It's Saturday! At least where I'm sitting. That's what Saturdays
> are for ain't it?
They used to be, before I started my second year of being a student.
Wheres all this free time that we're supposed to have eh?
Still at least it'll all be pretty much finished (for a while at least)
one way or another in a couple of weeks, then I might get free evenings
and weekends again (which would be nice as I've got things to work on that
aren't course related).
> --Rabbit, devoted fanboy extraordinare. {I passed all those classes with
> the highest marks in years, too.}
Well thats something good at least, proving that reading webcomics is good
for acedemic prospects perhaps? (Wouldn't that be a nice excuse for
wasting time on the net).
> There is no such thing as normal.
Normal is just a vector perpendicular to all vectors tangent to a
surface at some point.
Why, yes, I *am* working on a 3-D graphics (sort of) program. It's fused
my brain!
What a coincidence, me too! ^^ Mine's destined to be a furry game.
--
Kitty Cat(programmer non-extraordinare!)
This banner, by the opposition, scares me:
"Love hunting, Join our war"
*Waves his own flag* happy anniversary (or whatever)!!
> 5. Where do you live?
> Bourbon County, Kentucky. Better known as, the middle of friggin'
> nowhere. But the birthplace of the greatest alcoholic drink in existance,
> yes indeed!
You're entitled to your opinion.
> 19. Describe your favourite/ideal 'furry' appearance.
> A furry-themed t-shirt and a nice fluffy skunk tail would do it for me. I'm
> not big on fursuits and I don't like the idea of collars 'cause I don't think
> things that are too tight 'round my neck. And I can't, for the life of me,
> imagine why a skunk would wear a collar anyway.
Because it looks good, of course!
Personally, I can't stand to wear anything jewelry-like, even though I
want to. Even, every time I sit down somewhere I take off my wristwatch.
> 33. Describe your ideal physical form.
> More and more I see myself, when I visualize this sort of thing at all, as
> pretty much a normal animal in shape, either skunk or fox. It's just what
> feels right.
> But anthropomorphically I see myself most often as a spotted skunk of
> the same, rather unflattering, physical shape as my real body except with
> the obvious animal features. And only five feet tall 'cause that's the height
> I want to be. {I'm weird, okay?} Depending on my mood I see myself as
> having either the classic black and white fur or, sometimes, deep purple
> and white. {It's my favorite colour, 'kay?}
Well, it's not like you have to justify your self-image to *this* crowd. :)
> 34. What kind of furry, non-sexual fantasies do you have?
> I've had a number of running dreams, sorta like the typical flying dream
> {I've had those too despite a fear of heights when I was a kit}. I want to
> be able to go fast without having to rely on machines to do it.
Ooh, me too. That's why I run down mountains!
Ok, you have succeded in getting me to stare blankly at that, trying my
hardest to understand it, and it hurts so I'm gonna stop now.
>
Peace,
Fee
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Emo Philips
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On the subject of comics that appeal to roleplayers one I found while
googling a while back which not enough people seem to have seen is Absurd
Notions (http://www.absurdnotions.org/listing.html), although sadly now I
think dead the archives make good reading (its about a group who amongst
other things play test RPGs for a company).
> Also I think it depends on what on your major{s}. I majored in History and
> I was kept pretty busy. One of my former room-mates was an Art/Theatre
> double major and I don't think that he ever slept. While a friend of mine
> was a computer major and he had much more free time {it seemed} than I
> did.
CompSci from where I'm sitting looks like a slow and never ending
treadmill of death. But I've *almost* made it off the end of the nasty
projects for this year.
Someone I know is doing a physics/maths double major... their workload and
courses scare the hell out of me.
> Yeah. Though terror is also a good motivator. I had my senior seminar
> class under one of the toughest professors in the History department.
Luckily for me I've not got any lecturers I'd count as terrifying, unless
I was considering their daily caffeine intake, or the strangeness of some
of their examples.
> Good luck with your classes Mort.
Thanks for that, hopefully I won't need luck but its always nice to have
on your side.
> This banner, by the opposition, scares me:
>
> "Love hunting, Join our war"
Is that the "Real Countryside Alliance" again? Sounds like it. These
are people who - they say, anyway - are unhappy with the official
Countryside Alliance's commitment to peaceful, legal protest aginst
bans on hunting. I saw a BBC Newsnight feature on them a few months
ago, including an interview with a couple of self-styled activists
in the "Real CA", and it was obvious they fancied themselves as
"freedom fighters" - secret location in the wilds of Wales, masks
over their heads, chilling but tantalisingly vague threats of
"action" and so on.
The name of their group is immediately resonant of the "Real IRA",
who have refused to join the Irish peace process (such as it is) and
whose proudest achievement to date has been a jolly little piece of
mass murder in Omagh town centre, plus the odd car bomb in various
parts of Great Britain (by some miracle, these have killed no-one).
It could, bending over backwards to try to find some excuse for them,
be that the "Real CA" really don't realise this resonance, in which
case they're merely spectacularly ignorant. But if they do... I'm
sorry, I really can't find words to use here that wouldn't get me
turfed off my ISP. "Stomach-turningly repellent" is the best I can
come up with.
<snip>
> And rural areas always get screwed. Mostly because only poor
> people
> live there and who gives a damn about poor people? Only other poor
> people.
<snip>
Well, that's not really the case around me - plenty of rich peopple
live in rural Worcestershire. There are an awful lot of "dormitory
villages" for commuters into Birmingham, which is part of the
problem. People earning £80,000 a year buy a "weekend retreat" in the
country, bring their three cars out there, never participate in local
community matters or vote at local elections, and do all their
shopping at the out-of-town malls. So the local traders can't survive
on their reduced custom, which means that people who *do* rely on
them find things harder and harder, yet the rich types who don't care
about local services still see only the "unspoilt hamlet", more and
more of them turn up and house prices go into the stratosphere. And
as more and more people have cars to spare, fewer and fewer people
use the bus services, so they wither too - which causes the poor yet
more problems. (Not to mention those of us whose dodgy brain impulses
mean we aren't *allowed* to drive!)
It all causes a lot of friction, as you can imagine. Trouble is, you
can't really force people to live or shop where you tell them (except
by not allowing the out-of-town malls in the first place, which is
tried every so often with very patchy success). No-one from any
political persuasion has really found a solution yet - it could be
that there isn't one. Depressing thought, really.
> I'll keep my fingers crossed for the hares, Loganberry. I just
> wish I could do more.
> --Rabbit
Cheers. If you keep an eye on the League Against Cruel Sports'
website, it should keep you reasonably up to date on the issue (plus
fox hunting, stag hunting etc). They snagged themselves a nice URL,
too!
That sounds quite a bit more fun than my project, involving nuclear
particle simulations. But for now, it's all about drawing shapes.
> It could, bending over backwards to try to find some excuse for them,
> be that the "Real CA" really don't realise this resonance, in which
> case they're merely spectacularly ignorant. But if they do... I'm
> sorry, I really can't find words to use here that wouldn't get me
> turfed off my ISP. "Stomach-turningly repellent" is the best I can
> come up with.
It's a fairly common thing for activists to be upset with the "moderate"
actions of their group, and form a splinter group they call "real" or
"true" or whatever. From what I've seen there's major infighting along
those lines in the modern KKK.
Heh.. well, it would be fun except I don't have any sprite artists(yes, I said
the game's in 3d and it will be... but drawing 3d models in software is very
hard on the cpu.. and I don't think I'm that good that I could recover the
speed loss).
--
KittyCat
>That sounds quite a bit more fun than my project, involving nuclear
>particle simulations. But for now, it's all about drawing shapes.
Programming is the most boring thing ever, I hate it.
Please Remember that Man is the measure of all things and don't forget
your toothbrush.
---
Northern wind take my song up high
To the Hall of glory in the sky
So its gates shall greet me open wide
When my time has come to die
>
>It's a fairly common thing for activists to be upset with the
"moderate"
>actions of their group, and form a splinter group they call "real" or
>"true" or whatever. From what I've seen there's major infighting along
>those lines in the modern KKK.
>
How the hell do you know whats going on in the KKK in the _first_
place???
Oh, and this would make a great tee shirt or bumper sticker dont you
think?
DIE FOR OIL, SUCKER.
Heh.
~Prince Snuhwolf~
> It's a fairly common thing for activists to be upset with the
> "moderate" actions of their group, and form a splinter group they
> call "real" or "true" or whatever. From what I've seen there's
> major infighting along those lines in the modern KKK.
All that's true - just look at the Labour Party - but having done a
quick and highly unscientific straw poll at work today, *everyone* I
asked said that the Real CA's name reminded them immediately of the
Real IRA. If they'd called themselves the "True Countryside
Alliance" or something, that wouldn't have happened. It's the
specific word "Real" that gets people, and I find it extremely hard
to believe that the people who set up the Real CA didn't know exactly
what they were doing when they chose the name.
> As of last Sunday, Feb 9., according to a search on Google
> Groups, I've
> been here for a year. Let there be much rejoicing. *Waves a tiny
> flag* yay.
Congratulations on your first full year here Rabbitswift, I've been
here for 2.
> So thanks to everyone who's put up with me for a year. You're
> stuck with
> me now. Mwahahahaha! I'll never go away!
{ Grins } That's fine with me.
{ Continues to read the furvey }
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Windows NT crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No-one hears your screams.
Then it's a good thing you have a field you like, eh? *I* love
programming, it's like magic. I think it, I describe it, it happens in
front of my eyes.
> Please Remember that Man is the measure of all things and don't forget
> your toothbrush.
Heh: my colleagues are working on a similar program for the biomedical
field (radiation therapy for brain cancer). They have virtual humans
which they truly use as the measure of things.
> > > There is no such thing as normal.
> >
> > Normal is just a vector perpendicular to all vectors tangent to a
> > surface at some point.
>
> Ok, you have succeded in getting me to stare blankly at that, trying my
> hardest to understand it, and it hurts so I'm gonna stop now.
i think it means a line that is parralel to another line in a plain and
has lines that intersect both it ant the plain to form square (90)
angles.....
--
Nightwind
"The wind has no destination"
Aim Nightwnd90
Icq 23044454
> There are rattlesnakes through much of the country. There are
> East Coast species, such as the Eastern Diamondback
I met one of these, it was coiled just to one side of a remote biketrail
i ride sometimes, simply beuaitufl, it didn't really know what to do
about the bike, didn't even rattle at us... but you knew it was
dangerous, rattles, pointed head, that calm coiled look...
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Ursus Californicus
Grizzly Den founder and alpha
The Bionic Yiff Beast of Sacramento
"As seen on the BBC"
-- "If it moves, hug it. If it doesn't move, hug it
*until* it moves. And above all, *when* it moves, YIFF
IT!"
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I experience several incidents with rattlesnakes. The first time was
while climbing the local cliffs as a young'in in northern New Jersey.
I was walking along a very narrow ledge and didn't see as I stepped
over it. My friend saw it as his dog passed over it a couple times and
had to restrain his dog so it didn't notice and possibly attack. The
rattler finally decided the place was just too crowded...
We actually caught a rattler on two occasion by hand! Yes, by hand! My
friend waved his hand so it coiled and struck. I grabbed from behind
while it was stretched out. Now I would have these things deparlately
trying to twist around and bite until we bagged them them biked ten
miles to the wild animal farm and a five dollar reward.
....cripes, what were we thinking?!
Never could sell the beaver we caught.
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The Vigilant Fox
Skytech
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>I experience several incidents with rattlesnakes. The first time was
>while climbing the local cliffs as a young'in in northern New Jersey.
>I was walking along a very narrow ledge and didn't see as I stepped
>over it. My friend saw it as his dog passed over it a couple times and
>had to restrain his dog so it didn't notice and possibly attack. The
>rattler finally decided the place was just too crowded...
>
>We actually caught a rattler on two occasion by hand! Yes, by hand! My
>friend waved his hand so it coiled and struck. I grabbed from behind
>while it was stretched out. Now I would have these things deparlately
>trying to twist around and bite until we bagged them them biked ten
>miles to the wild animal farm and a five dollar reward.
>
>....cripes, what were we thinking?!
>
>Never could sell the beaver we caught.
Crikey! Steve Irwin and Jeff Corbn would have been proud! My
herpetologist friend grabbed a fer-de-lance with his bare hand when we
were in Costa Rica.
You should have found a female friend to take the beaver to a street
corner and advertise "Beaver for Sale"
*runs away while ducking rocks and tomatoes*
Well, you don't really need the other line there. If you have a surface
(say a sphere) and a point on the surface (south pole, say) then to find
the normal at that point touch the sphere to a plane at its south pole,
and draw a line perpendicular to the plane. That's (more or less) what a
normal is.
*Lana and Belle look in the next room*
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Belle
-:(Without a Lioness a lion has no pride):-