No halloween here

[fish]

It's weird. Every year there are fewer and fewer Halloween festivities
here. The more fundamental churches have replaced trick or treating and
scary costumes with "Fall Festivals" (which ironically seems sort of Earth
worshipping and Pagan in a way), or a thing they call "Trunk or Treat" where
the kids go to the church and get treats from car trunks in the parking lot
(what's with THAT?) And BY NO chance will Halloween ever be observed on a
Sunday. What did happen, happened last night.

We watched the Blair Witch Project tonight. Clever movie.

I wish we'd had some kids in costumes though.

[Meggie]

I think those fall festivals they  have... "Harvest Festivals" .... funny, always on or near October 31st :)...

 

Yeah, I think they are more Pagan than Trick or treating all all that stuff :)

Meggie

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[Spiderwomon]

Some Christian Churches are doing something around harvest time to replace
Halloween called "Bread Making and Sharing."

My only thought was as you said, how simple Fall Equinox this all sounds!

--
Spiderwomon

fish wrote in message <7vitg9$594h$2...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Marylyn]

People who take their living directly from the land celebrate in the Fall... it's natural.

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7viu28$59am$2...@fu-berlin.de...

[John S. McEnery]

fish:
It seems to go in cycles......When the kids were little ( in
another century it seems) there were always a lot...then it
trailed off and some years we only had a few...now it's back up in
the hundreds...lots more mommies and daddies with them than there
used to be...and they dress up too...I sort of get a kick out of
that...sat on the girl watching bench for a couple of hours
yesterday afternoon with a big bag of candy next to me...and got a
chance to visit with some of said parents for a bit ...I like
that too.

John...quotidian curmudgeon
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fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[Ape]

When are you moving?

Ape

[fish]

Funny question.  When we visited the pacific northwest once, we said, this is the coolest place we have ever been.  But the pull of family keeps us here in the 2nd most beautiful place in the world. I'd seriously have to wait until the Princess is settled down somewhere before I could consider making a move. That and the fact that we both spent 20 years building the business that supports us here......We'll be here until we sell the practice and retire I imagine. 

 

Say, did I tell you I recently left "government service" and joined the Beloved's private practice.   Being in business for yourself is weird, but so far I like it.  I set my own appointments and my charting is reduced by about 80%. Marketing yourself is a trip though. 

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vk5uq$5t01$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Meggie]

Of courses.....

but that's why Thanksgiving was invented :)

Meggie
********

[fish]

So far I'm a demanding and perfectionist boss.........

Lessons to learn there.

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vk8jh$6218$1...@fu-berlin.de...

  I freelanced for two years after I left the Oregonian. .. Working for myself was great, but it did have one huge drawback. .. I was a lousy boss. ..

  Ape

[Ape]

  I freelanced for two years after I left the Oregonian. .. Working for myself was great, but it did have one huge drawback. .. I was a lousy boss. ..

  Ape

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vk7a4$602j$2...@fu-berlin.de...

[Whitetiger]

RJ,

 

We'll have to put our heads together sometime...  that's my next move,  too.  80% less charting?  Really?

--
Sandy,  who would have done it anyway but is now definitely drooling
Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same reactions
in the brain as marijuana.... The researchers also discovered other similarities
between the two, but can't remember what they are.
   --Matt Lauer on the Today show 

[fish]

Sandy,

The wonders of not accepting Medicaid (and their picky picky requirements). 

A sliding fee scale is much easier, especially when you decide the slide yourself <g>.

Whitetiger <Newsgrou...@aol.com> wrote in message news:7vk91q$62ap$5...@fu-berlin.de...

[linda marie]

In our town, from what I have heard from people who lived here longer ( I
only am here a year) the Halloween festivities are getting to be more
rather than less. I had over a 150 trick or treaters last night. :-) My
town most of the people are Catholic, and we only have one fundie church
that I know of. One of the moms in the school yard today was saying that she
doesn't celebrate Halloween due to its origins ( which clued me in that she
is probably a Fundamentalist) and was saying that she didn't celebrate it
due to it being a high holy day of witches with "black masses" which really
steamed me, and I didn't know the lady well enough to give her a lecture on
how ignorant her ideas about witches were. The Blair Witch Project was a
good movie, it was one of the strangest movies I have ever seen though. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
Psalm 42:1

fish wrote in message <7vitg9$594h$2...@fu-berlin.de>...

[peace2u]

RJ,

My son lives in Winston-Salem, NC and there was no trick or treating on Sunday - they did it all on Saturday instead.  We had way less kids this year - a great contrast from a few years back when we were literally inundated with kids.  There were a lot of police patrols, helicopters, etc. and I must say it looks like the kids behaved better.

We used to have Harvest Festival when I was growing up in England.

Love and peace,

Roslyn

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vitg9$594h$2...@fu-berlin.de...

[Karyn]

Next year come up north then. <g>

--
Karyn

fish wrote in message <7vitg9$594h$2...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Karyn]

Our church has a Halloween parade and party.

--
Karyn
Spiderwomon <6352...@msn.com> wrote in message
<7viuck$59dp$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

>Some Christian Churches are doing something around harvest time to replace
>Halloween called "Bread Making and Sharing."
>
>My only thought was as you said, how simple Fall Equinox this all sounds!
>
>--
>Spiderwomon
>
>

[Karyn]

Do you recommend the Blair Witch project ? Think I should rent it?

--
Karyn
linda marie wrote in message <7vkct1$67qu$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[fish]

You know, you keep inviting me.......and the idea seems more and more
do-able all the time; I just may take you up on it.. Last time I was in New
York the bartenders wouldn't leave me alone about my accent. This time
someone else would have to razzz me. <g>

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Next year come up north then. <g>
>
> --
> Karyn

[Karyn]

Come on up. I would be happy to harass you over your accent.

--
Karyn
fish wrote in message <7vkrgv$629g$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[John S. McEnery]

You could bring him out to the Island and we could take a trip out
to Suffolk county were they think they are all rebels....You're
not allowed to graduate from High school if you dont own a pickup
truck(with empty gun racks...this is New York after all) , a straw
hat, and heavy boots (even the girls)
and even he could laugh at some of the attempts at Suth'n accents

John...quotidian curmudgeon
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Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

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[Karyn]

Yeah, we could trot out some Northern rednecks just for fun.

--
Karyn
John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vksom$6nbp$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[fish]

This is sounding better and better.

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vksua$6p09$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Karyn]

:)) We do provide a lot of laughs. John lives about 20 minutes from here and
he is nuts. Unlike me of course. I am merely unusual.

--
Karyn
fish wrote in message <7vkt8d$6oap$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Karyn]

See what I mean ? weird.

--
Karyn
John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vktqe$6ij4$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
>We upscale suburbanites can afford to dispense with the curve
>(Donning flack jacket and protective head covering)
>--

>John...quotidian curmudgeon
>...........................................................
>Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

>news:7vktnh$6pih$1...@fu-berlin.de...
>> context, context, context
>> On the NYC side of the border we grade on the curve when it
>comes to being
>> different.
>>
>> --
>> Karyn
>> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vktk4$6pjt$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
>> >Well..on that spectrum....you are somewhere to the right of
>> >me...(g)
>> >
>> >--

>> >John...quotidian curmudgeon
>> >...........................................................
>> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

>> >news:7vktgg$6284$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[John S. McEnery]

[John S. McEnery]

bet you think it's easy......Surrounded with Long Island Sound to
the North, the Atlantic Ocean to the South, Sodom and Gomorrah's
big sister to the West and "the South shall rise again to the
east"

weird...Hell...I'm surrounded --

John...quotidian curmudgeon
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Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vktsm$6puj$1...@fu-berlin.de...

> See what I mean ? weird.
>

> --
> Karyn

> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vktqe$6ij4$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >We upscale suburbanites can afford to dispense with the curve
> >(Donning flack jacket and protective head covering)

> >--
> >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> >...........................................................
> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:7vktnh$6pih$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> >> context, context, context
> >> On the NYC side of the border we grade on the curve when it
> >comes to being
> >> different.
> >>

> >> --
> >> Karyn
> >> John S. McEnery wrote in message

<7vktk4$6pjt$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Karyn]

[Karyn]

LOL! That does explain a lot.

--
Karyn
John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vku23$6j1c$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

>bet you think it's easy......Surrounded with Long Island Sound to
>the North, the Atlantic Ocean to the South, Sodom and Gomorrah's
>big sister to the West and "the South shall rise again to the
>east"
>

>weird...Hell...I'm surrounded --

>
>John...quotidian curmudgeon
>...........................................................
>Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

>news:7vktsm$6puj$1...@fu-berlin.de...
>> See what I mean ? weird.
>>

>> --
>> Karyn

>> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vktqe$6ij4$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
>> >We upscale suburbanites can afford to dispense with the curve
>> >(Donning flack jacket and protective head covering)

>> >--
>> >John...quotidian curmudgeon
>> >...........................................................
>> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

>> >news:7vktnh$6pih$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[John S. McEnery]

[linda marie]

Yes, and no <g>.... it was good in that there was no scenes of violence,
something I try to avoid in movies. It was weird in that you couldn't tell
what was out to get the people in the movie, but you get the feeling that it
is pure evil which is a creepy feeling.

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
Psalm 42:1

Karyn wrote in message <7vkqj0$6lqp$9...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Ape]

Your focus is your reality. ..  Qui-Gon

linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vl1gt$6sg8$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[linda marie]

Yes, but I am not sure which part of my post you are referring to. I tend to be very choosy with my movies. It's one of the things I learned from Buddhism, that what you put into yourself is what comes out of you. So if one watches say a violent movie, they will be more prone to random violent thoughts. I tend to be psychically sensitive as well, so I try to avoid violent movies whenever I can as I find them upsetting.  The part about pure evil, I just didn't like the fact that they didn't know what was chasing them. It's too much like some of my bad dreams. <g> I still think it was a good movie, just a bit strange. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vl49g$6tru$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Ape]

  Linda,

  What I had hoped to imply is that the only evil chasing them in the movie was something that they projected from within themselves. ..

  Ape, who has managed to stand his own hair on end on several occasions all by himself. ..
--
  The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself. ..  Franklin Roosevelt

linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vld1l$71r9$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Eve]

<whispers>

 

pssst!  fish!  try New Hampshire!

 

Eve

[Ape]

Linda,

I should have also added, the evil which the audience also projected into the movie. .. Speaking of horror movies, my son just got back from a movie I'm not going to see. .. He says House on Haunted Hill is the scariest movie he's ever seen. ..

Ape

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vlg8o$78f4$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Whitetiger]

Oh my,  now I'm excited...  LOL

--
Sandy,  currently doing end of month paper crunch

Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same reactions
in the brain as marijuana.... The researchers also discovered other similarities
between the two, but can't remember what they are.
   --Matt Lauer on the Today show 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vk9g3$6323$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[linda marie]

Ah I see. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vlg8o$78f4$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[linda marie]

That too. :-)

Well it sounds like the movie your son saw is one I should avoid. I used to love scary movies in my 20's. Now that I will be hitting the ripe old age of 30 in a few months, it seems my taste in movies has changed. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vlhk8$77rv$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Ape]

  Linda,

  I've decided that life is tough enough without filling my head full of images that bad dreams are made off. ..

  Ape

linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnfe3$8kgs$1...@fu-berlin.de...

That too. :-)

Well it sounds like the movie your son saw is one I should avoid. I used to love scary movies in my 20's. Now that I will be hitting the ripe old age of 30 in a few months, it seems my taste in movies has changed. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vlhk8$77rv$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[fish]

Man, I know what you mean.  I LOVED Blair Witch Project, but had dreams that night to grizzly to tell you about.

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnsp4$8vt7$1...@fu-berlin.de...

  Linda,

  I've decided that life is tough enough without filling my head full of images that bad dreams are made off. ..

  Ape

linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnfe3$8kgs$1...@fu-berlin.de...

That too. :-)

Well it sounds like the movie your son saw is one I should avoid. I used to love scary movies in my 20's. Now that I will be hitting the ripe old age of 30 in a few months, it seems my taste in movies has changed. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vlhk8$77rv$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Karyn]

You loved it? Maybe I will rent it. Why did you love it?

--
Karyn 

fish wrote in message <7vo0e1$92rs$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

Man, I know what you mean.  I LOVED Blair Witch Project, but had dreams that night to grizzly to tell you about.

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnsp4$8vt7$1...@fu-berlin.de...

  Linda,

  I've decided that life is tough enough without filling my head full of images that bad dreams are made off. ..

  Ape

linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnfe3$8kgs$1...@fu-berlin.de...

That too. :-)

Well it sounds like the movie your son saw is one I should avoid. I used to love scary movies in my 20's. Now that I will be hitting the ripe old age of 30 in a few months, it seems my taste in movies has changed. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vlhk8$77rv$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[fish]

The technique, the realism, the improv.

Really an artistic piece.

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vo0su$8j8d$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Karyn]

hmmmm

--
Karyn 

fish wrote in message <7vo1d0$96uo$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[John S. McEnery]

Dont tell Guiliani (g)
--
John...quotidian curmudgeon
...........................................................

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

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[Karyn]

I saw Rudy at a costume party. He was stark naked with a potato on his
penis. Seems he was dressed as a dick-tater.

--
Karyn
John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vo2pv$8v1a$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

>
>Dont tell Guiliani (g)
>--
>John...quotidian curmudgeon
>...........................................................

>Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

>news:7vo1gs$90fm$2...@fu-berlin.de...

[John S. McEnery]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

--
John...quotidian curmudgeon
...........................................................

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

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> I saw Rudy at a costume party. He was stark naked with a potato
on his
> penis. Seems he was dressed as a dick-tater.
>
> --
> Karyn
> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vo2pv$8v1a$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >
> >Dont tell Guiliani (g)
> >--
> >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> >...........................................................

> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:7vo1gs$90fm$2...@fu-berlin.de...

[fish]

ROFLMAO....
I saw that piece of art in a magazine. I have to say, it was a decent work
of art.

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vo38n$97uj$3...@fu-berlin.de...
> I saw Rudy at a costume party. He was stark naked with a potato on his
> penis. Seems he was dressed as a dick-tater.
>
> --
> Karyn
> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vo2pv$8v1a$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >
> >Dont tell Guiliani (g)
> >--
> >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> >...........................................................

> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:7vo1gs$90fm$2...@fu-berlin.de...

[linda marie]

Very true. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vnsp4$8vt7$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

Better watch it, fish, the leftists are going to get you.  :)

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

fish and I don't have acceyents. We talk raht, It's y'all that talks
funny. Right, fish? :)

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vkrnl$6n6s$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> Come on up. I would be happy to harass you over your accent.
>

> --
> Karyn

> fish wrote in message <7vkrgv$629g$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >You know, you keep inviting me.......and the idea seems more and more
> >do-able all the time; I just may take you up on it.. Last time I was in
> New
> >York the bartenders wouldn't leave me alone about my accent. This time
> >someone else would have to razzz me. <g>
> >

> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:7vkqim$6lqp$2...@fu-berlin.de...
> >> Next year come up north then. <g>
> >>

> >> --
> >> Karyn
> >> fish wrote in message <7vitg9$594h$2...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

I always get a kick out of New Englanders who attempt to talk Southern.
What do we have to do to convince y'all that "y'all" is a plural and never
used as a singular? I think that New Hampshire is still recovering from my
trip up there for training a year ago. I will never forget pointing out a
bug in a program. I told the instructor that "when you mash the button, it
just lays there, sorta like steppin' on a plum." She also had never heard
anyone say "what the cat hair is that?" I kept having to translate or wait
for the giggles to subside before continuing. They did the same thing in
Fargo when I was there. On the other hand, I did learn to say "Ovah theah"
with a proper New England accent and "You betcha" like a true Fargoan. It
almost made it worth the schlepp. It was nice, too, to find Yankees that
knew that dinner is at noon and the evening meal is supper. :)

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:7vksom$6nbp$1...@fu-berlin.de...

> You could bring him out to the Island and we could take a trip out
> to Suffolk county were they think they are all rebels....You're
> not allowed to graduate from High school if you dont own a pickup
> truck(with empty gun racks...this is New York after all) , a straw
> hat, and heavy boots (even the girls)
> and even he could laugh at some of the attempts at Suth'n accents
>
> John...quotidian curmudgeon
> ...........................................................

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

Y'all actually have some truly genuine ones upstate, especially around
Binghamton.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vksua$6p09$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> Yeah, we could trot out some Northern rednecks just for fun.
>

> --
> Karyn
> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vksom$6nbp$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

Hey, John, I lived for 18 years on the southern tip of Long Island. We
called it South Florida. :)

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:7vktqe$6ij4$1...@fu-berlin.de...

> We upscale suburbanites can afford to dispense with the curve
> (Donning flack jacket and protective head covering)
> --

> John...quotidian curmudgeon
> ...........................................................
> Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> news:7vktnh$6pih$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > context, context, context
> > On the NYC side of the border we grade on the curve when it
> comes to being
> > different.
> >

> > --
> > Karyn

> > John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vktk4$6pjt$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> > >Well..on that spectrum....you are somewhere to the right of
> > >me...(g)
> > >
> > >--

> > >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> > >...........................................................
> > >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> > >news:7vktgg$6284$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > >> :)) We do provide a lot of laughs. John lives about 20
> minutes
> > >from here and
> > >> he is nuts. Unlike me of course. I am merely unusual.
> > >>

> > >> --
> > >> Karyn

> > >> fish wrote in message <7vkt8d$6oap$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> > >> >This is sounding better and better.
> > >> >

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

Naw, try Vermont instead!  The girls at the college in Brattleboro are pretty and you can get Genesee Cream Ale.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

Eve <eli...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vlhof$79je$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

It just annoyed me through most of the movie. I think I would have killed
those damned kids myself if I had had to spend more than 15 minutes in the
wood with them.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vl1gt$6sg8$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> Yes, and no <g>.... it was good in that there was no scenes of violence,
> something I try to avoid in movies. It was weird in that you couldn't tell
> what was out to get the people in the movie, but you get the feeling that
it
> is pure evil which is a creepy feeling.
>

> --
> With much affection,
> Linda Marie
>
>
> "As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O
God"
> Psalm 42:1

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

No life would be complete without seeing _Texas Chainsaw Massacre_ though, Ape.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnsp4$8vt7$1...@fu-berlin.de...

  Linda,

  I've decided that life is tough enough without filling my head full of images that bad dreams are made off. ..

  Ape

linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnfe3$8kgs$1...@fu-berlin.de...

That too. :-)

Well it sounds like the movie your son saw is one I should avoid. I used to love scary movies in my 20's. Now that I will be hitting the ripe old age of 30 in a few months, it seems my taste in movies has changed. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vlhk8$77rv$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

You really thought that it was scary?

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vo0e1$92rs$1...@fu-berlin.de...

Man, I know what you mean.  I LOVED Blair Witch Project, but had dreams that night to grizzly to tell you about.

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnsp4$8vt7$1...@fu-berlin.de...

  Linda,

  I've decided that life is tough enough without filling my head full of images that bad dreams are made off. ..

  Ape

linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnfe3$8kgs$1...@fu-berlin.de...

That too. :-)

Well it sounds like the movie your son saw is one I should avoid. I used to love scary movies in my 20's. Now that I will be hitting the ripe old age of 30 in a few months, it seems my taste in movies has changed. :-)

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

 

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
 Psalm 42:1

Ape wrote in message <7vlhk8$77rv$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

I prefer the terms "artsy-fartsy" and "amateurish".

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vo1d0$96uo$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

I was at the same party. Dan Rather was there is peasant garb. Apparently
he was a common-tater.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vo38n$97uj$3...@fu-berlin.de...
> I saw Rudy at a costume party. He was stark naked with a potato on his
> penis. Seems he was dressed as a dick-tater.
>

> --
> Karyn

> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vo2pv$8v1a$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >
> >Dont tell Guiliani (g)
> >--
> >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> >...........................................................

> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:7vo1gs$90fm$2...@fu-berlin.de...

[John S. McEnery]

One of the reasons they built those reservoirs where they did was
to force out a group of backwoods locals known as "the
coonies"...Made Dogpatch look like Paris...Anyone driving through
the area got bullet holes in their cars...lots of
intermarriage..... descended from some of the earliest English and
Dutch families...another book that I never got around to
writing....That and the one about the Utopian communities of the
1840s....
Oh well...

--
John...quotidian curmudgeon
...........................................................
Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7vobq6$9cfr$1...@fu-berlin.de...

> Y'all actually have some truly genuine ones upstate, especially
around
> Binghamton.
>

> --
> Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
> You learn from the fall, not the climb.
>
>
>
> Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> news:7vksua$6p09$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > Yeah, we could trot out some Northern rednecks just for fun.
> >

> > --
> > Karyn
> > John S. McEnery wrote in message

<7vksom$6nbp$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> > >You could bring him out to the Island and we could take a
trip out
> > >to Suffolk county were they think they are all
rebels....You're
> > >not allowed to graduate from High school if you dont own a
pickup
> > >truck(with empty gun racks...this is New York after all) , a
straw
> > >hat, and heavy boots (even the girls)
> > >and even he could laugh at some of the attempts at Suth'n
accents
> > >

> > >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> > >...........................................................
> > >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> > >news:7vkrnl$6n6s$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > >> Come on up. I would be happy to harass you over your
accent.
> > >>

> > >> --
> > >> Karyn

> > >> fish wrote in message <7vkrgv$629g$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> > >> >You know, you keep inviting me.......and the idea seems
more
> > >and more
> > >> >do-able all the time; I just may take you up on it.. Last
time
> > >I was in
> > >> New
> > >> >York the bartenders wouldn't leave me alone about my
accent.
> > >This time
> > >> >someone else would have to razzz me. <g>
> > >> >

> > >> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> > >> >news:7vkqim$6lqp$2...@fu-berlin.de...
> > >> >> Next year come up north then. <g>
> > >> >>

> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Karyn
> > >> >> fish wrote in message <7vitg9$594h$2...@fu-berlin.de>...

[John S. McEnery]

I know...we ship all the old ladies with the big cars down there
to wreak havoc on the locals

--
John...quotidian curmudgeon
...........................................................
Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:7vobso$96lp$1...@fu-berlin.de...

> Hey, John, I lived for 18 years on the southern tip of Long
Island. We
> called it South Florida. :)
>

> --
> Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
> You learn from the fall, not the climb.
>
>
>

> John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:7vktqe$6ij4$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > We upscale suburbanites can afford to dispense with the curve
> > (Donning flack jacket and protective head covering)
> > --

> > John...quotidian curmudgeon
> > ...........................................................
> > Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> > news:7vktnh$6pih$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > > context, context, context
> > > On the NYC side of the border we grade on the curve when it
> > comes to being
> > > different.
> > >

> > > --
> > > Karyn
> > > John S. McEnery wrote in message

<7vktk4$6pjt$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> > > >Well..on that spectrum....you are somewhere to the right of
> > > >me...(g)
> > > >
> > > >--

> > > >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> > > >...........................................................
> > > >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> > > >news:7vktgg$6284$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > > >> :)) We do provide a lot of laughs. John lives about 20
> > minutes
> > > >from here and
> > > >> he is nuts. Unlike me of course. I am merely unusual.
> > > >>

> > > >> --
> > > >> Karyn

> > > >> fish wrote in message <7vkt8d$6oap$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> > > >> >This is sounding better and better.
> > > >> >

[John S. McEnery]

Narragansett Beer...awful stuff but once you develop a taste...it
takes years to affect withdrawal

John...quotidian curmudgeon
...........................................................
Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:7voc02$9bn4$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Ape]

I saw some of it, then turned it off. ..  Ape

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7voc55$9a8g$1...@fu-berlin.de...

No life would be complete without seeing _Texas Chainsaw Massacre_ though, Ape.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnsp4$8vt7$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

Where DO they get that blue hair coloring?

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:7vocd3$98re$1...@fu-berlin.de...

> I know...we ship all the old ladies with the big cars down there
> to wreak havoc on the locals
>
> --
> John...quotidian curmudgeon
> ...........................................................

> Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:7vobso$96lp$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > Hey, John, I lived for 18 years on the southern tip of Long
> Island. We
> > called it South Florida. :)
> >

> > --
> > Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
> > You learn from the fall, not the climb.
> >
> >
> >

> > John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:7vktqe$6ij4$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > > We upscale suburbanites can afford to dispense with the curve
> > > (Donning flack jacket and protective head covering)
> > > --

> > > John...quotidian curmudgeon
> > > ...........................................................
> > > Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> > > news:7vktnh$6pih$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > > > context, context, context
> > > > On the NYC side of the border we grade on the curve when it
> > > comes to being
> > > > different.
> > > >

> > > > --
> > > > Karyn
> > > > John S. McEnery wrote in message

> <7vktk4$6pjt$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> > > > >Well..on that spectrum....you are somewhere to the right of
> > > > >me...(g)
> > > > >
> > > > >--

> > > > >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> > > > >...........................................................
> > > > >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> > > > >news:7vktgg$6284$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > > > >> :)) We do provide a lot of laughs. John lives about 20
> > > minutes
> > > > >from here and
> > > > >> he is nuts. Unlike me of course. I am merely unusual.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Karyn

> > > > >> >> >> fish wrote in message
> <7vkrgv$629g$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> > > > >> >> >> >You know, you keep inviting me.......and the idea
> > > seems
> > > > >more
> > > > >> >> >and more
> > > > >> >> >> >do-able all the time; I just may take you up on
> it..
> > > > >Last time
> > > > >> >> >I was in
> > > > >> >> >> New
> > > > >> >> >> >York the bartenders wouldn't leave me alone about
> my
> > > > >accent.
> > > > >> >> >This time
> > > > >> >> >> >someone else would have to razzz me. <g>
> > > > >> >> >> >

> > > > >> >> >> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

[John S. McEnery]

It's like woad was to the ancient Irish.....a variation on
war-paint...the recipe is handed down from mother to daughter in
certain families....a woman thing.

Tho I did, at one time have a white German Shepherd on which we
used to use a blue rinse( "Ret" was the name) to keep her from
shading into yellow.

--
John...quotidian curmudgeon
...........................................................
Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:7vof28$98rd$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Meggie]

The technique, the realism, the improv.

Really an artistic piece.

---

Just as long as you all realize that The Blair Witch Project  was totally bogus and made up........

 

Meggie

[John S. McEnery]

All art is....That is the essence.
My own view was that it was noisy.....but I feel that way about a
lot of stuff I see on screen the past few years ( and in the real
world too)

John...quotidian curmudgeon
...........................................................
Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message
news:7vp837$9plu$1...@fu-berlin.de...

The technique, the realism, the improv.
Really an artistic piece.

------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------

[fish]

Well, of course..  I didn't fall off a turnip truck,

 

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7vp837$9plu$1...@fu-berlin.de...

The technique, the realism, the improv.

Really an artistic piece.

---

[fish]

Intermarriage and bullet holes in cars do not a redneck make.

John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vocas$95qo$1...@fu-berlin.de...

> One of the reasons they built those reservoirs where they did was
> to force out a group of backwoods locals known as "the
> coonies"...Made Dogpatch look like Paris...Anyone driving through
> the area got bullet holes in their cars...lots of
> intermarriage..... descended from some of the earliest English and
> Dutch families...another book that I never got around to
> writing....That and the one about the Utopian communities of the
> 1840s....
> Oh well...
>
>

> --
> John...quotidian curmudgeon
> ...........................................................
> Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:7vobq6$9cfr$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > Y'all actually have some truly genuine ones upstate, especially
> around
> > Binghamton.
> >

> > --
> > Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
> > You learn from the fall, not the climb.
> >
> >
> >

[fish]

Well, it didn't seem scary at the time.  I think the deal was I felt the characters to be real, by their improv technique.

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7voc5r$97eh$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

Reminds me of one of my favorite Southern expressions.  "I may have a lump butt, but I didn't ride in here on a load of taters."

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vp9ka$9t6n$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

I'll give you that, but they annoyed me so badly that I couldn't enjoy their acting.  The characters all needed a good spanking. 

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vpag8$9tnd$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

By Goddess, where *I'm* from they do! :)

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:7vpabq$9soh$1...@fu-berlin.de...

> Intermarriage and bullet holes in cars do not a redneck make.
>
> John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:7vocas$95qo$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > One of the reasons they built those reservoirs where they did was
> > to force out a group of backwoods locals known as "the
> > coonies"...Made Dogpatch look like Paris...Anyone driving through
> > the area got bullet holes in their cars...lots of
> > intermarriage..... descended from some of the earliest English and
> > Dutch families...another book that I never got around to
> > writing....That and the one about the Utopian communities of the
> > 1840s....
> > Oh well...
> >
> >
> > --
> > John...quotidian curmudgeon
> > ...........................................................

> > Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:7vobq6$9cfr$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > > Y'all actually have some truly genuine ones upstate, especially
> > around
> > > Binghamton.
> > >

> > > --
> > > Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
> > > You learn from the fall, not the climb.
> > >
> > >
> > >

[John S. McEnery]

Of that I am aware....I was referring to our northern primitives
who are no longer living there)....i believe they have all been
elected to state and national office and have gone upscale...but
are otherwise unchanged.

John...quotidian curmudgeon
...........................................................

[Karyn]

Yes, we do.

--
Karyn
Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt wrote in message <7vobq6$9cfr$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

I've always gotten along well with upstate New Yorkers. In fact, I usually
get along pretty well with the NYC folks who still live there. The ones who
were miserable in NYC, then moved to Florida and were still miserable, but
wanted to change things there to be like NYC made me crazy, too. Folks that
lived in Florida for 30 years and still claimed to be New Yorkers rather
than Floridians really got up my nose, too.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vpcj1$9ssd$3...@fu-berlin.de...

[Whitetiger]

<gasping and choking on hot chocolate> Pppppfffffffft

--
Sandy
Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same
reactions
in the brain as marijuana.... The researchers also discovered other
similarities
between the two, but can't remember what they are.
--Matt Lauer on the Today show

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vo38n$97uj$3...@fu-berlin.de...
> I saw Rudy at a costume party. He was stark naked with a potato on his
> penis. Seems he was dressed as a dick-tater.
>

> --
> Karyn

> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vo2pv$8v1a$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >
> >Dont tell Guiliani (g)
> >--

> >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> >...........................................................
> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:7vo1gs$90fm$2...@fu-berlin.de...
> >hmmmm
> >
> >--
> >Karyn
> >fish wrote in message <7vo1d0$96uo$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

> > The technique, the realism, the improv.
> > Really an artistic piece.

> > Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:7vo0su$8j8d$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> > You loved it? Maybe I will rent it. Why did you love it?
> >

> > --
> > Karyn
> > fish wrote in message <7vo0e1$92rs$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Whitetiger]

Mine could have been.  LOL

--
Sandy
Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same reactions
in the brain as marijuana.... The researchers also discovered other similarities
between the two, but can't remember what they are.
   --Matt Lauer on the Today show 

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7voc55$9a8g$1...@fu-berlin.de...

No life would be complete without seeing _Texas Chainsaw Massacre_ though, Ape.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vnsp4$8vt7$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Whitetiger]

Þ

--
Sandy
Researchers have discovered that chocolate produces some of the same reactions
in the brain as marijuana.... The researchers also discovered other similarities
between the two, but can't remember what they are.
   --Matt Lauer on the Today show 

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vob5q$8s1i$1...@fu-berlin.de...

Better watch it, fish, the leftists are going to get you.  :)

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vk9g3$6323$1...@fu-berlin.de...

Sandy,

The wonders of not accepting Medicaid (and their picky picky requirements). 

A sliding fee scale is much easier, especially when you decide the slide yourself <g>.

Whitetiger <Newsgrou...@aol.com> wrote in message news:7vk91q$62ap$5...@fu-berlin.de...

RJ,

 

We'll have to put our heads together sometime...  that's my next move,  too.  80% less charting?  Really?

 

[linda marie]

LOL!!!

--
With much affection,
Linda Marie

"As a deer longs for the flowing streams, so my soul thirsts for you, O God"
Psalm 42:1

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt wrote in message <7voc2j$98j2$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

>It just annoyed me through most of the movie. I think I would have killed
>those damned kids myself if I had had to spend more than 15 minutes in the
>wood with them.
>

>--
>Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
>You learn from the fall, not the climb.
>
>
>

>linda marie <sha...@msn.com> wrote in message

[Eve]

They get it shipped specially from Beacon Hill, I think . . .

 

e

 

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt wrote in message <7vof28$98rd$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Eve]

I had a hard time being scared in a theater full of sniggering Berkeley students.  Seems to me they didn't realize the film was poking fun at them . . . they were just into the hype.

 

Eve

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt wrote in message <7voc5r$97eh$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Ape]

Were the ones who got up your nose standing on your upper lip?  Ape

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vpcv1$9ved$1...@fu-berlin.de...

I've always gotten along well with upstate New Yorkers.  In fact, I usually
get along pretty well with the NYC folks who still live there.  The ones who
were miserable in NYC, then moved to Florida and were still miserable, but
wanted to change things there to be like NYC made me crazy, too.  Folks that
lived in Florida for 30 years and still claimed to be New Yorkers rather
than Floridians really got up my nose, too.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vpcj1$9ssd$3...@fu-berlin.de...
> Yes, we do.
>
> --
> Karyn
> Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt wrote in message <7vobq6$9cfr$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >Y'all actually have some truly genuine ones upstate, especially around
> >Binghamton.
> >

> >--
> >Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
> >You learn from the fall, not the climb.
> >
> >
> >

> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >news:7vksua$6p09$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> >> Yeah, we could trot out some Northern rednecks just for fun.
> >>

> >> --
> >> Karyn

> >> John S. McEnery wrote in message <7vksom$6nbp$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >> >You could bring him out to the Island and we could take a trip out
> >> >to Suffolk county were they think they are all rebels....You're
> >> >not allowed to graduate from High school if you dont own a pickup
> >> >truck(with empty gun racks...this is New York after all) , a straw
> >> >hat, and heavy boots (even the girls)
> >> >and even he could laugh at some of the attempts at Suth'n accents
> >> >

> >> >John...quotidian curmudgeon
> >> >...........................................................
> >> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >> >news:7vkrnl$6n6s$1...@fu-berlin.de...
> >> >> Come on up. I would be happy to harass you over your accent.
> >> >>

> >> >> --
> >> >> Karyn

> >> >> fish wrote in message <7vkrgv$629g$1...@fu-berlin.de>...
> >> >> >You know, you keep inviting me.......and the idea seems more
> >> >and more
> >> >> >do-able all the time; I just may take you up on it..  Last time
> >> >I was in
> >> >> New
> >> >> >York the bartenders wouldn't leave me alone about my accent.
> >> >This time
> >> >> >someone else would have to razzz me. <g>
> >> >> >

> >> >> >Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message

> >> >> >news:7vkqim$6lqp$2...@fu-berlin.de...
> >> >> >> Next year come up north then. <g>
> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Karyn

[Meggie]

Well, i know that, but there are a lot of people that really do think that was a true story.... 

 

Meggie

fish wrote in message <7vp9ka$9t6n$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

Well, of course..  I didn't fall off a turnip truck,

 

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7vp837$9plu$1...@fu-berlin.de...

The technique, the realism, the improv.

Really an artistic piece.

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[Karyn]

My understanding (and fish will certainly correct me if I am wrong) is that the term "redneck" comes from the way people's necks get sunburned when they work outside. I know there are other connotations which are less flattering, but I basically take the word to mean someone who hasn't had things handed to him and really works for a living. I tend to respect folks like that.

--
Karyn 

Meggie wrote in message <7vr99t$bd79$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

no...but that does help define them :)

Meggie

fish wrote in message <7vpabq$9soh$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

Intermarriage and bullet holes in cars do not a redneck make.

[fish]

I disagree.  A redneck is a person who works hard, outside, in the hot sun, and therefore has a red neck from bending over to care for crops or garden.  The culture that surrounds this is rurally defined, and includes various aspects including certain music, interests and beliefs.  It is not a pejorative word, except for those who wish to elevate themselves above rural folks.

Rednecks are one of the last groups for whom it is PC to denigate. 

If you don't think people who aren't rednecks don't have incest or carelessness with guns. you aren't looking.

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7vr99t$bd79$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[fish]

I would never never make comments about rednecks having a higher rate of incest than anyone else, or about them being more careless with guns.

 

Show me prove I ever stooped that low in talking about my own kind.

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7vs4cg$cfk8$1...@fu-berlin.de...

Yes, this is true... but up until his last post, he poked fun at them as well..

It's not my fault when people go all PC in the middle of the conversation..

 

Meggie

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[fish]

Meggie,

We can poke fun at rednecks' musical tastes, dietary choices, whatever is culturally accurate.  This I have no problem with. 

 

It's when we start stooping so low as to accuse them of higher incidences of incest than anyone else is where I get offended.

That's more than just having fun.

 

See?

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7vs4a0$bufc$1...@fu-berlin.de...

sorry, RJ....  while everything you said is true and I agree, I thought we were having fun.

 

It was not long ago, when you  yourself were having fun with rednecks.

 

My family is redneck to the bone and I know well why they are... although I have no inbreeding or carelessness with guns,  I come from a line of those that  toiled out in the hot sun and burnt thier neck.

 

Now that I know that this is not acceptable to you, I will not mention it again.... 

 

Meggie

[John S. McEnery]

I see a parallel with other subjects here......

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John...quotidian curmudgeon
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fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:7vs4p0$cbt6$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

We have different definitions of "redneck", then.  To me, "redneck" is an attitude.  Urban white-collared rednecks are common.  Rural blue collared non-redneck are somewhat less common, but not to the extent that they are hard to find.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vs1sa$cb28$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

That's the root of the word, but not the way it is usually used today.  Much the same as "anti-Semite" refers to one who is against Jews even though the vast majority of Jews have little if any Semitic blood.  The vast majority of Semites follow Islam, in fact.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

Karyn <Karyn...@msn.com> wrote in message news:7vs1dg$blr6$1...@fu-berlin.de...

My understanding (and fish will certainly correct me if I am wrong) is that the term "redneck" comes from the way people's necks get sunburned when they work outside. I know there are other connotations which are less flattering, but I basically take the word to mean someone who hasn't had things handed to him and really works for a living. I tend to respect folks like that.

--
Karyn 

Meggie wrote in message <7vr99t$bd79$1...@fu-berlin.de>...

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

Now you have offended *me*, fish.  Aunt Mom and Uncle Dad are FINE people.  Why are you speaking against them? ;)

 

Have fun with it, fish.  Every single stereotype on earth has some basis in fact.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vs4p0$cbt6$1...@fu-berlin.de...

Meggie,

We can poke fun at rednecks' musical tastes, dietary choices, whatever is culturally accurate.  This I have no problem with. 

 

It's when we start stooping so low as to accuse them of higher incidences of incest than anyone else is where I get offended.

That's more than just having fun.

 

See?

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7vs4a0$bufc$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[fish]

Sorry.  In an earlier post, I mentioned that John "did the dirty deed".  You just got caught in the line of the thread is all.

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7vs6jo$c97e$2...@fu-berlin.de...

I never laid such claim....  so, why the offing at me?

 

Meggie

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[fish]

This is my boundary, Bill.. I don't have many.

Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vs6jd$ccnc$4...@fu-berlin.de...

Now you have offended *me*, fish.  Aunt Mom and Uncle Dad are FINE people.  Why are you speaking against them? ;)

 

Have fun with it, fish.  Every single stereotype on earth has some basis in fact.

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vs4p0$cbt6$1...@fu-berlin.de...

Meggie,

We can poke fun at rednecks' musical tastes, dietary choices, whatever is culturally accurate.  This I have no problem with. 

 

It's when we start stooping so low as to accuse them of higher incidences of incest than anyone else is where I get offended.

That's more than just having fun.

 

[fish]

You are correct.  It was John that started it, talking about his "coonie" rednecks in L.I.

Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message news:7vs6ls$bm4g$2...@fu-berlin.de...

You didn't......but neither did I.....

 

Meggie

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[John S. McEnery]

I've been thinking about that...and I believe I may have
paralleled "coonies" and 'rednecks"...if so it was not my
intent...the "coonies" were a group of interbred rurals upstate in
the areas where the NYC reservoirs were built who had lived in the
area since the time when the Dutch ruled Nieu Amsterdam.
Any parallels that I drew were inadvertent and came about because
the discussion had turned to various groups of rural isolates who
lived outside the South.
Apologies if I so offended

--
John...quotidian curmudgeon
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fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:7vs7hb$c66k$1...@fu-berlin.de...

You are correct. It was John that started it, talking about his
"coonie" rednecks in L.I.
Meggie <m...@pacifier.com> wrote in message
news:7vs6ls$bm4g$2...@fu-berlin.de...
You didn't......but neither did I.....

Meggie
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[fish]

You are a gentleman.

John S. McEnery <bigjohn...@email.msn.com> wrote in message

news:7vs97h$cj9t$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[Ape]

Does anyone actually call themselves a Redneck?  Ape

[Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt]

You betcha!

 

<in best George Jones voice>

 

I'm a high tech redneck...

 

<changes voice>

There's no place that I'd rather be than right here

With my red neck, white socks, and Blue Ribbon beer.

 

<change to Conway Twitty voice>

It's a redneckin', love makin' night...

--
Bill (Skyclad) Hewitt
You learn from the fall, not the climb.

 

 

fish <fish...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7vtdvj$ds5n$1...@fu-berlin.de...

LOL.  Of course.  With pride.

Ape <Naked...@email.msn.com> wrote in message news:7vtdnf$di3g$1...@fu-berlin.de...

[John S. McEnery]

I always thought that they should put out a CD featuring George
Straight and that other one ...last name Gay...figured it would
easy go Platinum

--
John...quotidian curmudgeon
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Bill "Skyclad" Hewitt <hewi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:7vtueu$cfq6$4...@fu-berlin.de...