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Kenneth Butler

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Mar 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/15/97
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... well, the first of those, anyway.

If you venture over to your local university library and track down the
latest issue of the Journal of the American Statistical Association (the
March one, I guess it is), you might find, amongst the articles listed on
the front cover, a name you might recognise.

Then again, of course, you might not.

Ken.

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Word of the day:
Pratincolous: inhabiting meadows.

barbara

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Mar 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/15/97
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Kenneth Butler wrote:

: ... well, the first of those, anyway.


:
: If you venture over to your local university library and track down the
: latest issue of the Journal of the American Statistical Association (the
: March one, I guess it is), you might find, amongst the articles listed on
: the front cover, a name you might recognise.
:
: Then again, of course, you might not.

I'll take your word for it, Ken. Kudos!

: Pratincolous: inhabiting meadows.

I gather you can now stave off the prospect of pratincolousness.

--
bb

John Hall

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Mar 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/15/97
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In article <5gdo8o$t...@morgoth.sfu.ca>, Kenneth Butler <kbu...@sfu.ca>
writes

>... well, the first of those, anyway.
>
>If you venture over to your local university library and track down the
>latest issue of the Journal of the American Statistical Association (the
>March one, I guess it is), you might find, amongst the articles listed on
>the front cover, a name you might recognise.
>
>Then again, of course, you might not.

On the assumption that that name is yours, congratulations.
--
John Hall

"The human race, to which so many of my readers belong."
G.K. Chesterton (1874-1936)

Richard Steele

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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Kenneth Butler <kbu...@sfu.ca> wrote

>... well, the first of those, anyway.
>
>If you venture over to your local university library and track down the
>latest issue of the Journal of the American Statistical Association (the
>March one, I guess it is), you might find, amongst the articles listed on
>the front cover, a name you might recognise.
>
>Then again, of course, you might not.

Oo-er. A front cover listing even. Coo!

not on page three by any chance are you?

--
Richard - Whose nice comfy chair by the fire has a new squeak !

Karen Sexton

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) wrote:


>If you venture over to your local university library and track down the
>latest issue of the Journal of the American Statistical Association (the
>March one, I guess it is), you might find, amongst the articles listed on
>the front cover, a name you might recognise.

YOUR THESIS????!!!!!???!!!!!????

No?

Congats anyway!:-)
>Ken.
Karen


"It's not my fault."--Han Solo


Kenneth Butler

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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Richard Steele <ric...@r832.demon.co.uk> writes:

>Oo-er. A front cover listing even. Coo!

Only because said journal lists *all* the articles on the front cover.

>not on page three by any chance are you?

I made sure I wasn't. Believe me, you do *not* wish to see me topless.

Ken.

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Lactometer: instrument measuring the purity of milk.

Richard Steele

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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Kenneth Butler <kbu...@sfu.ca> wrote

>Richard Steele <ric...@r832.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>>Oo-er. A front cover listing even. Coo!
>
>Only because said journal lists *all* the articles on the front cover.

Aww. Do you want me to write to him and tell him off?

>
>>not on page three by any chance are you?
>
>I made sure I wasn't. Believe me, you do *not* wish to see me topless.

I *know*. That's why I checked! ;-)

Kay

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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Kenneth Butler wrote

>... well, the first of those, anyway.
>
>If you venture over to your local university library and track down the
>latest issue of the Journal of the American Statistical Association (the
>March one, I guess it is), you might find, amongst the articles listed on
>the front cover, a name you might recognise.
>
I presume the name is yours.

Congratulations! It's not the easiest journal to get published in.
--
Kay - Decisive action in the hour of need
Denotes the hero but does not succeed
Hilaire Belloc

Dominic Ramsey

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Mar 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/16/97
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Kenneth Butler (kbu...@sfu.ca) wrote:

> >not on page three by any chance are you?
>
> I made sure I wasn't. Believe me, you do *not* wish to see me topless.

I agree.

Dom
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http://www.maquis.org/

Kenneth Butler

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Mar 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/17/97
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kse...@earthlink.net (Karen Sexton) writes:

>kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) wrote:

>>If you venture over to your local university library and track down the
>>latest issue of the Journal of the American Statistical Association (the
>>March one, I guess it is), you might find, amongst the articles listed on
>>the front cover, a name you might recognise.

>YOUR THESIS????!!!!!???!!!!!????

Umm....

>No?

Somebody else's thesis, actually (my co-author's). He finished that about
four years ago -- it's taken us this long to bash it into a shape
suitable for a statistical journal, get it refereed, and all the usual
junk relating to getting articles published.

As for my own thesis -- well, it's a bit nearer to its final form after
my work of the last few days (from which I am currently taking a
scandalously long break). I haven't decided whether the last chapter is
going to stay there, or become Chapter 2, though, and Chapter 3 (as it
currently stands) is an utter mess, containing about a half-dozen goes at
writing something relevant that stretch back about five years, but the
movable chapter and the current Chapter 2 are near enough done.

So now you know. The only other question is whether I can pad it out to
200 pages :-)

>Congrats anyway!:-)

Thank you!

Ken.

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Word of the day:

Hebetate: make or become blunt or dull.

David Stevenson

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Mar 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/17/97
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Kenneth Butler posted:

>... well, the first of those, anyway.
>

>If you venture over to your local university library and track down the
>latest issue of the Journal of the American Statistical Association (the
>March one, I guess it is),

rofl

> you might find, amongst the articles listed on
>the front cover, a name you might recognise.

woops, sorry

>Then again, of course, you might not.

course i might not bother

heartiest congrats, anyoldroad

--
David Stevenson VoV#3 da...@blakjak.demon.co.uk
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Remember to check my Homepage on http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk

Kenneth Butler

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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b...@shore.net (barbara ) writes:

>Kenneth Butler wrote:

>: you might find, amongst the articles listed on

>: the front cover, a name you might recognise.

I discovered that it was actually the back cover, in fact. I wondered why
opening the thing up was such trouble.

>I'll take your word for it, Ken. Kudos!

Thank you! I'll presume you mean singular Greek acclaim rather than
plural instances of kudo.

>: Pratincolous: inhabiting meadows.

>I gather you can now stave off the prospect of pratincolousness.

Well, I did say "fame" without implying "fortune", so we'll see. For the
meanwhile, I'll just point out that near to "kudos" in the dictionary are
"kuchen" and "kueh", both of which mean "cake", but one is from Germany
and the other from Malaysia.

Ken.

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Word of the day:

Burnettize: saturate with zinc chloride to prevent decay.

Kenneth Butler

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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John Hall <jo...@jhall.demon.co.uk> writes:

>On the assumption that that name is yours, congratulations.

Thank you!

Tim Bierman

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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In article <5gqreq$e...@morgoth.sfu.ca> kbu...@sfu.ca "Kenneth Butler" writes:

> >I'll take your word for it, Ken. Kudos!
>
> Thank you! I'll presume you mean singular Greek acclaim rather than
> plural instances of kudo.

I thought it was one of those awful "fruit" drinks you only ever used to get
in cinemas (like Kia Ora) ... :-('

--
Tim [Soon we'll be out amid the cold world's strife,
Soon we'll be sliding down the razor blade of life ...]


stufnten

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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On 20 Mar 1997, Kenneth Butler wrote:

<parental unit>

> Well, I did say "fame" without implying "fortune", so we'll see. For the
> meanwhile, I'll just point out that near to "kudos" in the dictionary are
> "kuchen" and "kueh", both of which mean "cake", but one is from Germany
> and the other from Malaysia.

Bah! If you only spent as much time on your thesis as you do with your
nose in the dictionary....

</pu> [interesting acronym...]

stufnten[tm], Toby
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Keir Finlow-Bates

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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In article <5gqreq$e...@morgoth.sfu.ca> kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) writes:

Word of the day:
Burnettize: saturate with zinc chloride to prevent decay.

Didn't we have a similar one a while back (bucharize? my memory isnt' what it)
using copper sulphate?

So Ken, what's the word for saturating with copper chloride to prevent decay?

Keir
--
La la la, la la, la la la. Throw your homework into the fire! Go out
and find the one that you love. - The Smiths

Kenneth Butler

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Mar 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/20/97
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Kay <k...@scarboro.demon.co.uk> writes:

>I presume the name is yours.

Indeed it is. Well, the second of the two names attached to the article
is, at any rate, though the first-named author has posted to afba, once.

>Congratulations! It's not the easiest journal to get published in.

So I understand (having tried once before and failed :-( ).

Ken.

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Maggie

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Mar 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/21/97
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In article <858857...@bierman.demon.co.uk>,
t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:

>In article <5gqreq$e...@morgoth.sfu.ca> kbu...@sfu.ca "Kenneth Butler" writes:
>
>> >I'll take your word for it, Ken. Kudos!
>>
>> Thank you! I'll presume you mean singular Greek acclaim rather than
>> plural instances of kudo.
>
>I thought it was one of those awful "fruit" drinks you only ever used to get
>in cinemas (like Kia Ora) ... :-('
>

Kia Ora to you too, e hoa!


Maggie

Tim Bierman

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Mar 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/21/97
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In article <5gtm9i$s...@morgoth.sfu.ca> kbu...@sfu.ca "Kenneth Butler" writes:

> >>I thought it was one of those awful "fruit" drinks you only ever used to get
> >>in cinemas (like Kia Ora) ... :-('
>
> >Kia Ora to you too, e hoa!
>

> "Kia Ora" being Maori for "welcome", or something like that.

Ah, thanks for that ... I was wondering what Maggie was saying to me ...

> Ken, who has a book on Maori somewhere, the result of a long-ago visit to NZ.

Along with the Aotoroa (sp?) train timetables, no doubt.

Mike Bothe

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In article <bcb-ya023680002...@news.shore.net>, b...@shore.net
(barbara ) wrote:

>: > >I'll take your word for it, Ken. Kudos!


>: >
>: > Thank you! I'll presume you mean singular Greek acclaim rather than
>: > plural instances of kudo.

>:
>: I thought it was one of those awful "fruit" drinks you only ever used to get


>: in cinemas (like Kia Ora) ... :-('
>

Over here, Kudos is a candy bar.
>
>My news server has gone all wonky and I never saw Ken's post, nor many
>others whose replies I've seen. :((((
>
>And btw, it was the singular koodoss I had in mind. :)
>
>--
>bb, lost in the thicket.

Want to borrow the weed wacker?

--
All the dragons are slain and the sword stands rusting in the corner.

Kenneth Butler

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marg...@indigo.ie (Maggie) writes:

>In article <858857...@bierman.demon.co.uk>,
>t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:

>>I thought it was one of those awful "fruit" drinks you only ever used to get
>>in cinemas (like Kia Ora) ... :-('
>>

>Kia Ora to you too, e hoa!

"Kia Ora" being Maori for "welcome", or something like that.

Ken, who has a book on Maori somewhere, the result of a long-ago visit to NZ.


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Ken Butler / kbu...@sfu.ca / http://www.sfu.ca/~kbutler
Word of the day:

Rorulent: covered with dew.

Maggie

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Mar 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/22/97
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In article <858950...@bierman.demon.co.uk>,
t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:

>In article <5gtm9i$s...@morgoth.sfu.ca> kbu...@sfu.ca "Kenneth Butler" writes:
>

>> >>I thought it was one of those awful "fruit" drinks you only ever used to get
>> >>in cinemas (like Kia Ora) ... :-('
>>
>> >Kia Ora to you too, e hoa!
>>
>> "Kia Ora" being Maori for "welcome", or something like that.
>

>Ah, thanks for that ... I was wondering what Maggie was saying to me ...

:-)

>
>> Ken, who has a book on Maori somewhere, the result of a long-ago visit to NZ.
>

>Along with the Aotoroa (sp?) train timetables, no doubt.

Ahem. Aotearoa. It means "land of the long white cloud".

I have the Wellington commuter train timetable, if anyone's interested?

:-)


Maggie


Maggie

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In article <5gtm9i$s...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) wrote:

>marg...@indigo.ie (Maggie) writes:
>
>>In article <858857...@bierman.demon.co.uk>,


>>t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:
>
>>>I thought it was one of those awful "fruit" drinks you only ever used to get
>>>in cinemas (like Kia Ora) ... :-('
>>>
>
>>Kia Ora to you too, e hoa!
>
>"Kia Ora" being Maori for "welcome", or something like that.

Can be used in a number of contexts, most commonly as "hello" or "thank
you".

At home I always used to answer the phone with 'Kia Ora!". However, while
flatting in Islington in 1987, I realised that on this side of the world I
was saying "Fruit Drink!". :-/

>
>Ken, who has a book on Maori somewhere, the result of a long-ago visit to NZ.
>


Ooo! Did you visit Wellington at all? :-)


Maggie, homesick girl :-(

Sean Lewis

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Mar 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/22/97
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The Glass moved across the board and spelt out this message from
marg...@indigo.ie (Maggie) :

>In article <858950...@bierman.demon.co.uk>,
>t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:

>>In article <5gtm9i$s...@morgoth.sfu.ca> kbu...@sfu.ca "Kenneth Butler" writes:
>>

>>> >>I thought it was one of those awful "fruit" drinks you only ever used to get
>>> >>in cinemas (like Kia Ora) ... :-('
>>>
>>> >Kia Ora to you too, e hoa!
>>>
>>> "Kia Ora" being Maori for "welcome", or something like that.
>>

>>Ah, thanks for that ... I was wondering what Maggie was saying to me ...

>:-)

>>


>>> Ken, who has a book on Maori somewhere, the result of a long-ago visit to NZ.
>>

>>Along with the Aotoroa (sp?) train timetables, no doubt.

>Ahem. Aotearoa. It means "land of the long white cloud".

>I have the Wellington commuter train timetable, if anyone's interested?

Ken!



--

Sean.


Here's a fish hangs in the Net like a poor man's right in the Law
'Twill hardly come out!

The Bard of Stratford

http://www.maquis.org/~tarot/


Kenneth Butler

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marg...@indigo.ie (Maggie) writes:

>In article <858950...@bierman.demon.co.uk>,
>t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:

>>Along with the Aotoroa (sp?) train timetables, no doubt.

>Ahem. Aotearoa. It means "land of the long white cloud".

>I have the Wellington commuter train timetable, if anyone's interested?

Hah! Already got one! (Ken stumbles over to a distant corner and, after a
certain amount of searching, unearths a pink sheet of paper marked
"Cityrail", on which are depicted trains stopping at: Upper Hutt,
Wallaceville, Trentham, Heretaunga, Silverstream, Manor Park, Pomare,
Taita, Wingate, Naenae, Epuni, Hutt Central, Woburn, Ava, Petone,
Ngauranga, Kaiwharawhara and Wellington. So there :-) )

Ken, who can also offer you the times of the trains to Paraparaumu.

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Ken Butler / kbu...@sfu.ca / http://www.sfu.ca/~kbutler
Word of the day:

Dottle: plug of tobacco left in pipe after smoking.

Kenneth Butler

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b...@shore.net (barbara ) writes:

>My news server has gone all wonky and I never saw Ken's post, nor many
>others whose replies I've seen. :((((

My posts often seem to take an age to reach people. Presumably SFU lies
on a backwater of the Information Superhighway (no, wait, that isn't right).

>And btw, it was the singular koodoss I had in mind. :)

I thought so. The bookbinders of my acquaintance are all pretty well up
on their Greek.

>--
>bb, lost in the thicket.

Ken, wondering whether he actually knows any other bookbinders.

Tim Bierman

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In article <AF58DE32...@ts06-09.dublin.indigo.ie>
marg...@indigo.ie "Maggie" writes:

> >Along with the Aotoroa (sp?) train timetables, no doubt.
>
> Ahem. Aotearoa. It means "land of the long white cloud".

Is that a polite way of saying "land where it's always pissing down with
rain" ... ?

Kenneth Butler

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marg...@indigo.ie (Maggie) writes:

>In article <5gtm9i$s...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
>kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) wrote:

>>"Kia Ora" being Maori for "welcome", or something like that.

>Can be used in a number of contexts, most commonly as "hello" or "thank
>you".

Um, "kia ora" (in the latter sense).


>>
>>Ken, who has a book on Maori somewhere, the result of a long-ago visit to NZ.
>>

>Ooo! Did you visit Wellington at all? :-)

Indeed I did. Windy place, but a wonderful setting around the harbour.

My one and only aunt, uncle and cousins lived in Upper Hutt, just up the
road, so to speak, in a house my uncle built.

The only other Maori word that comes to my mind at the moment is the one
for "hill". We got quite a surprise driving into a town that called itself
Te Puke, but it turned out that it only means "the hill".

Ken.

Tim Bierman

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In article <AF58DE2F...@ts06-09.dublin.indigo.ie>
marg...@indigo.ie "Maggie" writes:

> At home I always used to answer the phone with 'Kia Ora!". However, while
> flatting in Islington in 1987, I realised that on this side of the world I
> was saying "Fruit Drink!". :-/

Reminds me of a friend who went around in Greece greeting people with
"Kalamari" ...

Kenneth Butler

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ke...@harlequin.co.uk (Keir Finlow-Bates) writes:

>In article <5gqreq$e...@morgoth.sfu.ca> kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) writes:

> Word of the day:
> Burnettize: saturate with zinc chloride to prevent decay.

>Didn't we have a similar one a while back (bucharize? my memory isnt' what it)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>using copper sulphate?

So's your syntax, it would appear :-)

In any case, yes: the word was "boucherize".

>So Ken, what's the word for saturating with copper chloride to prevent decay?

Ah, well, I wouldn't dream of spilling the secrets of the Dictionary
File. You'll have to wait and see.

Ken, who doesn't doubt that the word is in the book *somewhere*.

Maggie

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In article <859036...@bierman.demon.co.uk>,
t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:

>In article <AF58DE32...@ts06-09.dublin.indigo.ie>
> marg...@indigo.ie "Maggie" writes:
>
>> >Along with the Aotoroa (sp?) train timetables, no doubt.
>>
>> Ahem. Aotearoa. It means "land of the long white cloud".
>
>Is that a polite way of saying "land where it's always pissing down with
>rain" ... ?
>

Nahh ... that's the British Isles ;-)


Maggie

Maggie

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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In article <5h0aid$8...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) wrote:

>marg...@indigo.ie (Maggie) writes:
>
>>In article <858950...@bierman.demon.co.uk>,


>>t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:
>
>>>Along with the Aotoroa (sp?) train timetables, no doubt.
>
>>Ahem. Aotearoa. It means "land of the long white cloud".
>

>>I have the Wellington commuter train timetable, if anyone's interested?
>
>Hah! Already got one! (Ken stumbles over to a distant corner and, after a
>certain amount of searching, unearths a pink sheet of paper marked
>"Cityrail", on which are depicted trains stopping at: Upper Hutt,
>Wallaceville, Trentham, Heretaunga, Silverstream, Manor Park, Pomare,
>Taita, Wingate, Naenae, Epuni, Hutt Central, Woburn, Ava, Petone,
>Ngauranga, Kaiwharawhara and Wellington. So there :-) )
>
>Ken, who can also offer you the times of the trains to Paraparaumu.
>

Got that one. :-) Used to catch the unit from Paremata to Porirua and back
everyday for school. The 1630ish one from Porirua used to be an old train,
nicknamed "The Rattler" - if we were running late, we could leap over the
fence onto the tracks and jump on the train, as they didn't have those
automatic doors. It was a real bummer when they put the barbed wire up :-(


Maggie

Maggie

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In article <5h09vf$8...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) wrote:

>marg...@indigo.ie (Maggie) writes:
<sniplo>

>
>>Ooo! Did you visit Wellington at all? :-)
>
>Indeed I did. Windy place, but a wonderful setting around the harbour.
>
>My one and only aunt, uncle and cousins lived in Upper Hutt, just up the
>road, so to speak, in a house my uncle built.

My parents live on the other side of the Haywards, beside the Pauatahanui
inlet (in a suburb called Whitby - all the street names are ship/James Cook
related <grin>)

>
>The only other Maori word that comes to my mind at the moment is the one
>for "hill". We got quite a surprise driving into a town that called itself
>Te Puke, but it turned out that it only means "the hill".
>

Hey! I remember Te Puke! My friend and I were hitching around there years
ago and got picked up by a pig-hunter. Interesting lift. :-)

I love translating place names, both here in Ireland and back home. There
are great stories surrounding some of these places...

Maggie, always left wondering about Ureiti and Urenui ;-)

Karen Sexton

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t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:

>> At home I always used to answer the phone with 'Kia Ora!". However, while
>> flatting in Islington in 1987, I realised that on this side of the world I
>> was saying "Fruit Drink!". :-/

That would be like saying, "How about a nice Hawaiian Punch?"

>Reminds me of a friend who went around in Greece greeting people with
>"Kalamari" ...

LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never
stand to eat anything with tentacles.

Karen


"It's not my fault."--Han Solo


barbara

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
to

Mike Bothe wrote:

: >--

: >bb, lost in the thicket.

:
: Want to borrow the weed wacker?

:) Thanks!

I think I need more than a whacker for this place...
Got a brush hog?

--
bb, thinking a few sheep might do the trick..

Tim Bierman

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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In article <AF5ADC19...@ts13-09.dublin.indigo.ie>
marg...@indigo.ie "Maggie" writes:

> >> Ahem. Aotearoa. It means "land of the long white cloud".
> >

> >Is that a polite way of saying "land where it's always pissing down with
> >rain" ... ?
>
> Nahh ... that's the British Isles ;-)

That's "land where it's always pissing down with rain but there is always a
water shortage", surely ...

--
Tim [When I look over my shoulder, what do you think I see?
Some other cat looking over his shoulder at me,
And it's strange, oh so strange ...]


barbara

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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Kenneth Butler wrote:

: b...@shore.net (barbara ) writes:

: >And btw, it was the singular koodoss I had in mind. :)


:
: I thought so. The bookbinders of my acquaintance are all pretty well up
: on their Greek.

Ancient Greek is Greek to me, I'm afarid. 'Kudos' was remarked upon very
recently by my friend, Philosopher Bob, who ranted about its misuse for
several minutes on end. I'm far from being well up on any current language
but English, let alone defunct ones.

Bookbinders in medieval times were illiterate, so as to prevent their
getting distracted by the content.

--
bb, lapsed bookbinder

Alan Price

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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In article <859036...@bierman.demon.co.uk>
t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) wrote:-

>> >Along with the Aotoroa (sp?) train timetables, no doubt.
>>

>> Ahem. Aotearoa. It means "land of the long white cloud".
>
>Is that a polite way of saying "land where it's always pissing down with
>rain" ... ?
>

I don't know about the rain, but the long white cloud for which New Zealand
is famous is the result of a standing wave, caused by a mountain range
square across the prevailing wind. Popular amongst glider pilots, as it is
possible to ride it up to world-record heights (>40,000 ft.)

--

--
apr...@postern.demon.co.uk Alan Price
http://www.postern.demon.co.uk last update 19-February-1997


David Stevenson

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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Maggie posted:

>I have the Wellington commuter train timetable, if anyone's interested?

yes please

--
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1997: a fresh start: be nice to the other side: help everyone!
Remember to check my Homepage on http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk

David Stevenson

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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Kenneth Butler posted:

>Ken, who can also offer you the times of the trains to Paraparaumu.

please

>Word of the day:
> Dottle: plug of tobacco left in pipe after smoking.

youre slipping, using words i know!

Michael Spooner

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Mar 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/23/97
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On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 08:06:24 GMT, kse...@earthlink.net (Karen Sexton)
wrote:


>LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never
>stand to eat anything with tentacles.

I've long had a problem with people that people to seem compelled to
describe such fare as octopus, frog legs, rattlesnake, and I suppose even
"Mountain Oysters" ( I'm sure more examples can be conjured) as tasting
"JUST LIKE CHICKEN". Although I tend to have an adventuresome palate, such
comments make me feel like saying: "THEN PLEASE BRING ME CHICKEN!!!!!"

--
A bird in the hand is safer than two overhead

Steve Criddle

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
to

I believe it was Kenneth Butler who once wrote:

~ My posts often seem to take an age to reach people. Presumably SFU lies
~ on a backwater of the Information Superhighway (no, wait, that isn't right).

Information Dirt Track?

Information Cul-de-sac?

Crid <*>
--
http://www.criddle.demon.co.uk/
(M.A.W.P.H)

Steve Criddle

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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I believe it was Karen Sexton who once wrote:

~ LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never
~ stand to eat anything with tentacles.

Why didn't you use a knife and fork like the rest of us?

Peter Ceresole

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
to

In article <333d9d82...@snews.zippo.com>,
mspo...@tfb.com (Michael Spooner) wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 08:06:24 GMT, kse...@earthlink.net (Karen Sexton)
>wrote:
>
>

>>LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never

>>stand to eat anything with tentacles.
>

>I've long had a problem with people that people to seem compelled to
>describe such fare as octopus, frog legs, rattlesnake, and I suppose even
>"Mountain Oysters" ( I'm sure more examples can be conjured) as tasting
>"JUST LIKE CHICKEN".

What????

Certainly octopus doesn't taste remotely like chicken and it's delicious.
Love it. Squid too. Calamari in su tinta (Calamari cooked with their own
ink and incidentally with just a few litres of wine) is totally wonderful.
Crunch squidge. Frogs legs are good too and also taste as unlike chicken as
it gets.

I've never tried rattlesnake but I like the sound of it. And what the hell
are mountain oysters?

Why would anybody ever want chicken instead?

--
Peter

Vivianne

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
to

In article <333f79ba...@news.demon.co.uk>, Steve Criddle
<st...@criddle.demon.co.uk> wibbled ........

>I believe it was Karen Sexton who once wrote:
>
>~ LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never
>~ stand to eat anything with tentacles.
>
>Why didn't you use a knife and fork like the rest of us?
>
Happy Birthday Steve (Crid)!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

--
Puss in Boots



Maggie

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
to

In article <AF5C4DAB...@cara.demon.co.uk>,
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

<snip>

>I've never tried rattlesnake but I like the sound of it. And what the hell
>are mountain oysters?
>

Hehehe

Dom should know ;-)


Maggie, scurrying far away

Mudcat

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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In article <cTw2ErA2...@blakjak.demon.co.uk>, David Stevenson
<ne...@blakjak.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Kenneth Butler posted:
>
>>Ken, who can also offer you the times of the trains to Paraparaumu.
>
>please
>
>>Word of the day:
>> Dottle: plug of tobacco left in pipe after smoking.
>
>youre slipping, using words i know!
>

That's because he's used this word before.

--
Mudcat

Mudcat

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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In article <bcb-ya023680002...@news.shore.net>, b...@shore.net
(barbara ) wrote:

Goats work well too.

--
Mudcat

Tim Bierman

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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In article <VVlQUTB$xtNz...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk>
vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk "Vivianne" writes:

> Happy Birthday Steve (Crid)!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, is that why he suddenly graces our shores again ... just to get all the
happy birthdays?

Oh sod it ... Happy Birthday Crid as well :)

Simon & Kathryn

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Mar 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/24/97
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Michael Spooner <mspo...@tfb.com> put nose to keyboard and managed:

>
>I've long had a problem with people that people to seem compelled to
>describe such fare as octopus, frog legs, rattlesnake, and I suppose even
>"Mountain Oysters" ( I'm sure more examples can be conjured) as tasting
>"JUST LIKE CHICKEN". Although I tend to have an adventuresome palate, such
>comments make me feel like saying: "THEN PLEASE BRING ME CHICKEN!!!!!"

Yeah. A woman at work was telling me she'd got some ostrich steaks. She
said 'they tasted just like steak - I'll get it again' - but they cost
more than steak. (and no, she wasn't worried about BSE).
--
Simon & Kathryn
"You won't get away with this," said Cutwell. He thought for a bit and added,
"Well, you will probably get away with it, but you'll feel bad about it on your
deathbed and you'll wish -- " He stopped talking. -- Cutwell tries to reason
with the Duke of Sto Helit (Terry Pratchett, Mort)

Sarah Goddard

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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The very lovely Kenneth Butler opined:

: b...@shore.net (barbara ) writes:
:
: >My news server has gone all wonky and I never saw Ken's post, nor many
: >others whose replies I've seen. :((((
:
: My posts often seem to take an age to reach people. Presumably SFU lies
: on a backwater of the Information Superhighway (no, wait, that isn't right).

The same backwater I'm on apparently. Even if I see no other posts
for days and days, I see Ken and Toby's posts seconds after they post
them. I will let you all consider whether that is good or bad.

- Sarahg - who actually successfully mailed an Easter present to
mum (of course, I bought it 5 years ago :) ).
--
la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la

Alan Brand

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

[snip talk of Calamari, octopus, frog legs, rattlesnake, "Mountain
Oysters" ]

>Why would anybody ever want chicken instead?

To get to the other side?
___________________________________________________
AlanB (who had chicken feet at lunch yesterday)

Karen Sexton

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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st...@criddle.demon.co.uk (Steve Criddle) wrote:

>I believe it was Karen Sexton who once wrote:

>~ LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never
>~ stand to eat anything with tentacles.

>Why didn't you use a knife and fork like the rest of us?

LOL I've missed your sense of humor.

For people new to this group, this is the guy who once gave a recipe
for rolls of toilet paper in gravy.

Karen Sexton

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
to

mspo...@tfb.com (Michael Spooner) wrote:

>I've long had a problem with people that people to seem compelled to
>describe such fare as octopus, frog legs, rattlesnake, and I suppose even
>"Mountain Oysters" ( I'm sure more examples can be conjured) as tasting
>"JUST LIKE CHICKEN". Although I tend to have an adventuresome palate, such
>comments make me feel like saying: "THEN PLEASE BRING ME CHICKEN!!!!!"

The only thing that doesn't taste like chicken is chicken.

Karen, won't eat anything with suction cups, either

Simon Gray

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
to

pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) recently Re-Educated us in the
alt.fan.british-accent Facility thusly:

~ Certainly octopus doesn't taste remotely like chicken and it's delicious.
~ Love it. Squid too. Calamari in su tinta (Calamari cooked with their own
~ ink and incidentally with just a few litres of wine) is totally wonderful.
~ Crunch squidge. Frogs legs are good too and also taste as unlike chicken as
~ it gets.

Apparently the Sainsburys over the road (well, not quite over the
road...) from my house now has crocodile. Hmmmmm

--
"That's not bad language, that's Socialism" - George Bernard Shaw
http://www.mahayana.demon.co.uk/ ENTP

Kenneth Butler

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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b...@shore.net (barbara ) writes:

>Ancient Greek is Greek to me, I'm afarid. 'Kudos' was remarked upon very
>recently by my friend, Philosopher Bob, who ranted about its misuse for
>several minutes on end.

I feel as if I should accept the blame for getting him started, but I
also feel that somebody by the name of Philosopher Bob doesn't take much
getting started...

>Bookbinders in medieval times were illiterate, so as to prevent their
>getting distracted by the content.

I smile, but that does actually make sense.

Ken.

--
------------------------------------------------------------
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Word of the day:
Lambert: a unit of brightness.

Kenneth Butler

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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st...@criddle.demon.co.uk (Steve Criddle) writes:

>I believe it was Kenneth Butler who once wrote:

>~ My posts often seem to take an age to reach people. Presumably SFU lies
>~ on a backwater of the Information Superhighway (no, wait, that isn't right).

>Information Dirt Track?

>Information Cul-de-sac?

Something like that.

Makes me think of, for some reason,

"I saw the wheels of nihilism rolling my way,
And now I live life in the bus lane."

HMHB, of course.

Kenneth Butler

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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sar...@shakaar.maquis.org (Sarah Goddard) writes:

>The very lovely Kenneth Butler opined:
>:

>: My posts often seem to take an age to reach people. Presumably SFU lies
>: on a backwater of the Information Superhighway (no, wait, that isn't right).

>The same backwater I'm on apparently. Even if I see no other posts
>for days and days, I see Ken and Toby's posts seconds after they post
>them.

That's because you like us so much.

Wishful newsreading, and all that.

>I will let you all consider whether that is good or bad.

Ditto.

diver

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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In article <VVlQUTB$xtNz...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk>
vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk "Vivianne" writes:

> In article <333f79ba...@news.demon.co.uk>, Steve Criddle
> <st...@criddle.demon.co.uk> wibbled ........

> >I believe it was Karen Sexton who once wrote:
> >
> >~ LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never
> >~ stand to eat anything with tentacles.
> >
> >Why didn't you use a knife and fork like the rest of us?
> >

> Happy Birthday Steve (Crid)!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> :)

Oh another one :-) Happy birtday Mr Criddle.

--
diver ~ Pleasure is nothing but the intermission of pain. John Selden.


Steve Criddle

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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I believe it was Tim Bierman who once wrote:

~ Oh, is that why he suddenly graces our shores again ... just to get all the
~ happy birthdays?

No, actually it's because I had Monday and Tuesday off. It was too
windy to go cycling so I did some usenet instead.

What a sad life I lead. :-)

~ Oh sod it ... Happy Birthday Crid as well :)

Ta muchly. 29 now. <sigh>

Crid <*> ...not looking forward to having a 3 at the start of his
age.
--
http://www.criddle.demon.co.uk/
(M.A.W.P.H)

Richard Robinson

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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In article <3339b68...@news.demon.co.uk>,

Steve Criddle <st...@criddle.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Ta muchly. 29 now. <sigh>
>
>Crid <*> ...not looking forward to having a 3 at the start of his
> age.

Never mind. It won't last for ever.

--
Richard Robinson, Leeds, UK.
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
Nothing in the above should be read as suggesting that
I may wish to receive bulk mailshots. I do *NOT*.

Steve Criddle

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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I believe it was Karen Sexton who once wrote:

~ For people new to this group, this is the guy who once gave a recipe
~ for rolls of toilet paper in gravy.

Errrrrrr.......

I think you must be mistaken Karen. That certainly wasn't me. (The
mind boggles though).

Crid <*> ...wondering who *did* post the recipe.
--
http://www.criddle.demon.co.uk/
(M.A.W.P.H)

barbara

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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Mudcat wrote:

: In article <bcb-ya023680002...@news.shore.net>, b...@shore.net

Preferably those with vibrating bum-faces?

(What's with that, anyway? Someone enlighten me, please.)

--
bb, back to prune juice

Michael Spooner

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:26:35 +0000, pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole)
wrote:

>In article <333d9d82...@snews.zippo.com>,
>mspo...@tfb.com (Michael Spooner) wrote:

>>I've long had a problem with people that people to seem compelled to
>>describe such fare as octopus, frog legs, rattlesnake, and I suppose even
>>"Mountain Oysters" ( I'm sure more examples can be conjured) as tasting
>>"JUST LIKE CHICKEN".
>

>What????


>
>Certainly octopus doesn't taste remotely like chicken and it's delicious.

>Love it. Squid too. Calamari in su tinta (Calamari cooked with their own

>ink and incidentally with just a few litres of wine) is totally wonderful.

>Crunch squidge. Frogs legs are good too and also taste as unlike chicken as

>it gets.


Peter, Peter, Peter, I didn't deliberately deceive you. Maybe this is a
Merkin cultural thing, but round here it's not uncommon for some well
meaning person to claim that all sorts of diverse meats taste "just like
chicken". I guess such persons reason defectively that some finicky person
can be made to embrace a more exotic dish by comparing it to something
more familiar. I agree the above meats don't taste like chicken at all, I
was just being cynical.

>I've never tried rattlesnake but I like the sound of it. And what the hell
>are mountain oysters?

Maybe the rattlesnake/chicken comparison has been made because both are
white meats. BTW, I hate to break this to you
but............but.........mountain oysters are:

FRIED SHEEP TESTICLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


>Why would anybody ever want chicken instead?

Dunno, just no accounting for taste.


--
Blessed are the censors; they shall inhibit the earth

David Elliott

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
to

Steve Criddle <st...@criddle.demon.co.uk> quoth:

> Crid <*> ...not looking forward to having a 3 at the start of his
> age.

It's brilliant, not being twenty-something...the pressure is well and truly
*off*.

David

--
David Elliott http://www.roundabout.org/~david/
"He's not a prince, he's not a king, she's not a work of art or anything"

Tim Bierman

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
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In article <333f95e5...@news.demon.co.uk>
si...@star-one.org.uk "Simon Gray" writes:

> Apparently the Sainsburys over the road (well, not quite over the
> road...) from my house now has crocodile. Hmmmmm

Have you tried going up to the meat counter and saying "Crocodile steak
please, and make it snappy!" ... ?

David Stevenson

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
to

Mudcat posted:

i've known it for years!

--
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1997: a fresh start: be nice to the other side: help everyone!
Remember to check my Homepage on http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk
Quango and Nanki Poo are on my Homepage: check them out now !!!

Peter Ceresole

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Mar 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/25/97
to

In article <333f95e5...@news.demon.co.uk>,
si...@star-one.org.uk (Simon Gray) wrote:

>Apparently the Sainsburys over the road (well, not quite over the
>road...) from my house now has crocodile. Hmmmmm

That's okay. There's a restaurant in Nairobi called 'The Carnivore' that
specialises in out-of-the-rut meet. Crocodile was good. So was Ostrich (it
was out of the rut at the time). But they didn't have snake. And I ask once
again; what are Mountain Oysters?

--
Peter

Mudcat

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
to

In article <5h7un5$2...@ecuador.earthlink.net>, kse...@earthlink.net
(Karen Sexton) wrote:

>st...@criddle.demon.co.uk (Steve Criddle) wrote:
>
>>I believe it was Karen Sexton who once wrote:
>

>>~ LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never
>>~ stand to eat anything with tentacles.
>
>>Why didn't you use a knife and fork like the rest of us?
>

>LOL I've missed your sense of humor.
>

>For people new to this group, this is the guy who once gave a recipe

>for rolls of toilet paper in gravy.
>

Was it good tho?

--
Mudcat

Mudcat

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
to

In article <AF5C4DAB...@cara.demon.co.uk>, pe...@cara.demon.co.uk
(Peter Ceresole) wrote:

>I've never tried rattlesnake but I like the sound of it. And what the hell
>are mountain oysters?

Rattlesnake tastes like chicken :-)

Mountain oysters are woobies [tm] from steers.

--
Mudcat

Mudcat

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
to

>In article <VVlQUTB$xtNz...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk>
> vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk "Vivianne" writes:
>

>> Happy Birthday Steve (Crid)!!!!!!!!!!!


>
>Oh, is that why he suddenly graces our shores again ... just to get all the

>happy birthdays?


>
>Oh sod it ... Happy Birthday Crid as well :)
>

Hi Crid, happy borthday.

--
Mudcat

Peter Ceresole

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
to

In article <33426e1b....@snews.zippo.com>,
mspo...@tfb.com (Michael Spooner) wrote:

>Maybe the rattlesnake/chicken comparison has been made because both are
>white meats. BTW, I hate to break this to you
>but............but.........mountain oysters are:
>
>FRIED SHEEP TESTICLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh those... Yes, I've had those in France many times, started after the war
when I was a kid and they too are delicious.

And sure, I know you were talking about how people *present* these things
when they don't like to say the word...

I really can't understand how people can be so finnicky about what they eat
in that way; if it's been properly cooked and is sanctified by a long
history of being eaten, it can't do any harm. And as I say, all your list
(apart from rattlesnake) I have tried and liked. It's good stuff.

But then there's no accounting for taste. A friend of ours who is a True
Brit came on holiday with us to Brittany. We would go to the auction of the
catches every morning and buy a couple of kilos of prawns, still alive,
which we would cook in a huge saucepan with some herbs. They were as
delicious as anything you could imagine. When Roger realised that they were
alive (he found out because he put his hand into the bag and got nipped) he
refused to eat any. So Anne made fish, but he saw her cutting the heads off
so that was that. In the end she made him fish fingers. This was a high
quality serious TV journalist who has been responsible for programmes which
made everybody sweat blood but he couldn't stand the thought that he was
eating anything that had been alive (except governments). Fascinating what
upbringing does for us.

--
Peter

Kenneth Butler

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
to

marg...@indigo.ie (Maggie) writes:

>In article <5h0aid$8...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
>kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) wrote:

>>Ken, who can also offer you the times of the trains to Paraparaumu.
>>

>Got that one. :-) Used to catch the unit from Paremata to Porirua and back
>everyday for school. The 1630ish one from Porirua used to be an old train,
>nicknamed "The Rattler" - if we were running late, we could leap over the
>fence onto the tracks and jump on the train, as they didn't have those
>automatic doors. It was a real bummer when they put the barbed wire up :-(

I should think so :-)

When I rode the train from Upper Hutt to Wellington (this would have been
1981), that was a bit of an old rattler, too. Electric, I think, but made
in Hungary at some distant point in the past, so it wasn't exactly a
smooth ride.

Not that I cared.

There's another route, isn't there, that (to judge by the map) wiggles
backwards and forwards a good deal and ends up in a place called
Johnsonville. I presumed that the wiggling was the train going uphill,
but I never got a chance to find out...

Ken.
--
------------------------------------------------------------
Ken Butler / kbu...@sfu.ca / http://www.sfu.ca/~kbutler
Word of the day:

Rabbet: frame against which door closes.

Simon Gray

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
to

t...@bierman.demon.co.uk (Tim Bierman) recently Re-Educated us in the
alt.fan.british-accent Facility thusly:

~ > Apparently the Sainsburys over the road (well, not quite over the
~ > road...) from my house now has crocodile. Hmmmmm
~
~ Have you tried going up to the meat counter and saying "Crocodile steak
~ please, and make it snappy!" ... ?

I'm going to investigate today !

Karen Sexton

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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sar...@shakaar.maquis.org (Sarah Goddard) wrote:

>The very lovely Kenneth Butler opined:

>: My posts often seem to take an age to reach people. Presumably SFU lies
>: on a backwater of the Information Superhighway (no, wait, that isn't right).

>The same backwater I'm on apparently. Even if I see no other posts
>for days and days, I see Ken and Toby's posts seconds after they post

>them. I will let you all consider whether that is good or bad.

I usually see Ken's posts seconds after he posts them. It's kind of
strange, being in the same time zone late at night (or early in the
am) knowing what someone else is doing. But then, every once in
awhile I never see his post, just the follow-ups. Not sure what that
means.

>- Sarahg - who actually successfully mailed an Easter present to
>mum (of course, I bought it 5 years ago :) ).

Those Peeps will be hard as rocks by now.

Karen
>--

Karen Sexton

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mspo...@tfb.com (Michael Spooner) wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 15:26:35 +0000, pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole)
>wrote:

>>What????


>>
>>Certainly octopus doesn't taste remotely like chicken and it's delicious.
>>Love it. Squid too. Calamari in su tinta (Calamari cooked with their own
>>ink

Ack!!! That does it...

>Peter, Peter, Peter, I didn't deliberately deceive you. Maybe this is a
>Merkin cultural thing, but round here it's not uncommon for some well
>meaning person to claim that all sorts of diverse meats taste "just like
>chicken". I guess such persons reason defectively that some finicky person
>can be made to embrace a more exotic dish by comparing it to something
>more familiar. I agree the above meats don't taste like chicken at all, I
>was just being cynical.

Right. I know for sure rattlesnake tastes like chicken. Someone told
me.

Karen

diver

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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In article <859325...@bierman.demon.co.uk>
t...@bierman.demon.co.uk "Tim Bierman" writes:

> In article <333f95e5...@news.demon.co.uk>
> si...@star-one.org.uk "Simon Gray" writes:
>

> > Apparently the Sainsburys over the road (well, not quite over the

> > road...) from my house now has crocodile. Hmmmmm
>

> Have you tried going up to the meat counter and saying "Crocodile steak

> please, and make it snappy!" ... ?

Or the person who walks up to the butcher's counter and utters " Have you
got pig's feet"? The butcher replies " Yes, we have". To which the person
responds " well kindly trot over there and get me some please".

Michael Spooner

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On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 23:02:45 +0000, pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole)
wrote:


>That's okay. There's a restaurant in Nairobi called 'The Carnivore' that
>specialises in out-of-the-rut meet. Crocodile was good. So was Ostrich (it
>was out of the rut at the time). But they didn't have snake. And I ask once
>again; what are Mountain Oysters?

Well, Mountain Oysters are Testiculos De Borrego.

Or put another way:

"Lets harvest them mountain oysters", said the herder loud and clear
Then the rams of the flock got restless, restraining their abject fear
Those jewels were breaded, a fire was lit, and they began to fry
What are mountain oysters? Why the gleam in a male sheep's eye
--
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-Kick it *really* hard

stufnten

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On Wed, 26 Mar 1997, Karen Sexton wrote:

> Right. I know for sure rattlesnake tastes like chicken. Someone told
> me.

Far Side:

[cows standing around one cow eating a T-bone steak]

cow: "We taste like chicken."

stufnten[tm], Toby
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http://members.tripod.com/~Tesseract


Mudcat

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In article <bwOHsMCP...@blakjak.demon.co.uk>, David Stevenson
<ne...@blakjak.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Mudcat posted:
>
>>In article <cTw2ErA2...@blakjak.demon.co.uk>, David Stevenson
>><ne...@blakjak.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>Kenneth Butler posted:
>>>

>>>>Ken, who can also offer you the times of the trains to Paraparaumu.
>>>

>>>please
>>>
>>>>Word of the day:
>>>> Dottle: plug of tobacco left in pipe after smoking.
>>>
>>>youre slipping, using words i know!
>>>
>>
>>That's because he's used this word before.
>>
>i've known it for years!

Oh.


> Remember to check my Homepage on http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk
> Quango and Nanki Poo are on my Homepage: check them out now !!!

We are Siamese if you please - We are Siamese if you don't please.

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Simon Gray

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kse...@earthlink.net (Karen Sexton) recently Re-Educated us in the
alt.fan.british-accent Facility thusly:

~ >Peter, Peter, Peter, I didn't deliberately deceive you. Maybe this is a
~ >Merkin cultural thing, but round here it's not uncommon for some well
~ >meaning person to claim that all sorts of diverse meats taste "just like
~ >chicken". I guess such persons reason defectively that some finicky person
~ >can be made to embrace a more exotic dish by comparing it to something
~ >more familiar. I agree the above meats don't taste like chicken at all, I
~ >was just being cynical.
~
~ Right. I know for sure rattlesnake tastes like chicken. Someone told
~ me.

This morning I went & got a portion of the crocodile of which I spake
the other day. Its now in the freezer along with the other designer meat
waiting to be helped eaten...

Simon Gray

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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kse...@earthlink.net (Karen Sexton) recently Re-Educated us in the
alt.fan.british-accent Facility thusly:

~ It's kind of
~ strange, being in the same time zone late at night (or early in the
~ am) knowing what someone else is doing.

I'm glad its not just me who gets that !

barbara

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Kenneth Butler wrote:

: b...@shore.net (barbara ) writes:
:
: >Ancient Greek is Greek to me, I'm afarid. 'Kudos' was remarked upon very
: >recently by my friend, Philosopher Bob, who ranted about its misuse for
: >several minutes on end.
:
: I feel as if I should accept the blame for getting him started, but I
: also feel that somebody by the name of Philosopher Bob doesn't take much
: getting started...


Indeed. But his kudo rant occurred before this exchange... no blame this
time, Ken.

:)

Accompanying P.B. on mundane errands means watching helplessly while he
ensnares unsuspecting shop clerks in 'conversations' that amount to
untelligible babble, as far as the hapless clerk can tell. He doesn't mean
to do this, it all just tumbles out of his mind, as a natural result of his
friendliness and good will, and one must say, obliviousness. Quite
endearing, really, most of the time, until your patience for listening to
weird theories about things like "thick reality" has thinned, especially
when there's a queue of fidgeting customers behind you. :-/

I've learned to avoid thorny gender issues while in Phil-Bob's company...
he has zero tolerance for the conventional wisdom of what he says is a
feminized culture. His opinions can raise eyebrows in some quarters, if not
get him throttled by indignant feminists. But, I think he's right about the
male-bashing that goes on... it permeates our culture and is sanctioned.
Men on tv sitcoms and in advertising are routinely portrayed as clueless
dopes.

--
bb, still seeing week-old posts... :(

Karen Sexton

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Simon & Kathryn <se...@ghent.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Michael Spooner <mspo...@tfb.com> put nose to keyboard and managed:


>>
>>I've long had a problem with people that people to seem compelled to
>>describe such fare as octopus, frog legs, rattlesnake, and I suppose even
>>"Mountain Oysters" ( I'm sure more examples can be conjured) as tasting

>>"JUST LIKE CHICKEN". Although I tend to have an adventuresome palate, such
>>comments make me feel like saying: "THEN PLEASE BRING ME CHICKEN!!!!!"

>Yeah. A woman at work was telling me she'd got some ostrich steaks. She
>said 'they tasted just like steak - I'll get it again' - but they cost
>more than steak. (and no, she wasn't worried about BSE).

It has less fat than beefsteaks.

Alan Price

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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In article <5h8b20$d...@morgoth.sfu.ca>
kbu...@sfu.ca (Kenneth Butler) wrote:-

>b...@shore.net (barbara ) writes:
>
>>Bookbinders in medieval times were illiterate, so as to prevent their
>>getting distracted by the content.
>
>I smile, but that does actually make sense.
>
Let's hope they weren't innumerate, and could bind the pages in the right
order.

--

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apr...@postern.demon.co.uk Alan Price
http://www.postern.demon.co.uk last update 19-February-1997


RHS Linux User

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Maggie (marg...@indigo.ie) wrote:

: I love translating place names, both here in Ireland and back home. There
: are great stories surrounding some of these places...

The good people of Blubberhouses here in West Yorkshire might just want to
forget the story of what happened to them though. I dare say the whale
would be none too impressed either.


Karen Jones

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In article <mudcat-2503...@bothe.netuser.com>, Mudcat
<mud...@netuser.com> writes
Happy Birthday Crid, ah well only one day late! not bad for me.
--
Karen

Martin Read

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In article <859325...@bierman.demon.co.uk>, Tim Bierman
<t...@bierman.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <333f95e5...@news.demon.co.uk>
> si...@star-one.org.uk "Simon Gray" writes:
>
>> Apparently the Sainsburys over the road (well, not quite over the
>> road...) from my house now has crocodile. Hmmmmm
>
>Have you tried going up to the meat counter and saying "Crocodile steak
>please, and make it snappy!" ... ?
>
ROFL !

.. or going up to the lettuce counter and shouting,
"Look at that ! .. and thats only the tip of the iceberg"

martian

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Walter F. Clark

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On Sun, 23 Mar 1997 03:06:30 +0000, David Stevenson
<da...@blakjak.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Kenneth Butler posted:
>
<sneep>

>>Word of the day:
>> Dottle: plug of tobacco left in pipe after smoking.
>
>youre slipping, using words i know!
>

But did you know that in Scottish it means simple-minded or senile.


Walter
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given him. However I will keep it for another occasion.'
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(George & Weedon Grossmith)

Her Traciness

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Mar 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/26/97
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Karen Sexton wrote:
: sar...@shakaar.maquis.org (Sarah Goddard) wrote:
:
: >- Sarahg - who actually successfully mailed an Easter present to

: >mum (of course, I bought it 5 years ago :) ).

Ouch! I didn't know we were supposed to send the parents presents. :(

: Those Peeps will be hard as rocks by now.

After years and years of experimentation, I can confidently say that
Peeps are at their tastiest when hard as rocks.

Tracy, likes the white ones and speckled jelly beans

Tracy Thompson (ttho...@spanport.umass.edu)
"better than Gareth Southgate" (N.L.) ...watch for 13712

Richard Robinson

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In article <5hbo00$5...@columbia.acc.brad.ac.uk>,

grin

--
Richard Robinson, Leeds, UK.
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
Nothing in the above should be read as suggesting that
I may wish to receive bulk mailshots. I do *NOT*.

Her Traciness

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Peter Ceresole wrote:
: mspo...@tfb.com (Michael Spooner) wrote:
:
: Certainly octopus doesn't taste remotely like chicken and it's delicious.

: Love it. Squid too. Calamari in su tinta (Calamari cooked with their own
: ink and incidentally with just a few litres of wine) is totally wonderful.
: Crunch squidge. Frogs legs are good too and also taste as unlike chicken as
: it gets.

Calamares en su tinta are nice but octopus, like most of seafood, isn't
nearly so much fun once it's cooked.

Tracy, Kishi Sushi on Foothill in Upland serves some tasty free tentacles

Mark Johnson

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diver's Enigma machine spelled this out:

>In article <VVlQUTB$xtNz...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk>
> vivi...@vanillapod.demon.co.uk "Vivianne" writes:
>
>> In article <333f79ba...@news.demon.co.uk>, Steve Criddle
>> <st...@criddle.demon.co.uk> wibbled ........

>> >I believe it was Karen Sexton who once wrote:
>> >
>> >~ LOL My Italian grandmother used to cook Calamari, but I could never
>> >~ stand to eat anything with tentacles.
>> >
>> >Why didn't you use a knife and fork like the rest of us?
>> >
>> Happy Birthday Steve (Crid)!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> :)
>
> Oh another one :-) Happy birtday Mr Criddle.

Sorry Steve, Happy birthday!

(29 eh? I'll be catching you up soon)

Mark, who was devastated to learn that the rest of the family are
going to be away the weekend of my birthday. Oh dear....
--
Mark Johnson, Derby, UK
Lance Constable Taliesin - Ankh-Morpork City Guard #umtss division
Fabricati Diem, Pvnk

Ridwan Hughes

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On 26-Mar-97 19:22:32, Martin Read found these letters in alphabetti spaghetti:


> In article <859325...@bierman.demon.co.uk>, Tim Bierman
> <t...@bierman.demon.co.uk> writes

>>Have you tried going up to the meat counter and saying "Crocodile steak


>>please, and make it snappy!" ... ?
>>
> ROFL !

> ... or going up to the lettuce counter and shouting,


> "Look at that ! .. and thats only the tip of the iceberg"

LOL!

Or walking into Iceland and asking for your passport to be stamped...


Rid
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Jon(reading paper): "Hey Garfield they're developing computers with
artifical intelligence"
Garfield .oO( Big deal )
<Garfield nicks Jon's breakfast>
Garfield .oO( I'll be impressed when they invent artifical cunning )


Kenneth Butler

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kse...@earthlink.net (Karen Sexton) writes:

>sar...@shakaar.maquis.org (Sarah Goddard) wrote:

>>The same backwater I'm on apparently. Even if I see no other posts
>>for days and days, I see Ken and Toby's posts seconds after they post
>>them. I will let you all consider whether that is good or bad.

>I usually see Ken's posts seconds after he posts them.

Proof, I think, that the Information Highspeedrailway runs north-south,
and only rather less willingly east-west. (In the UK, on the other hand,
it runs east-west, which explains why Markus, who is south of just about
everybody else, takes ages to get postings.)

>It's kind of


>strange, being in the same time zone late at night (or early in the

>am) knowing what someone else is doing.

I quite often find myself thinking the same thing about you -- not only
do we share a time zone, we seem to share a preferred posting time. (Your
posts seem to reach me quickly as well, but I haven't done timings on
postings from elsewhere. I do sometimes see early-morning postings from
Europe before I log out for the night, the Pacific timezone being GMT-8.)

>>- Sarahg - who actually successfully mailed an Easter present to
>>mum (of course, I bought it 5 years ago :) ).

>Those Peeps will be hard as rocks by now.

"Peeps"?

Ken, who remembers getting Magic Roundabout Easter eggs as a kid, twelve
of them arranged around a clock face (they *were* only little eggs).

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------------------------------------------------------------
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Word of the day:

Cleromancy: divination by casting lots.

Kenneth Butler

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b...@shore.net (barbara ) writes:

>Kenneth Butler wrote:

>: I feel as if I should accept the blame for getting him started, but I
>: also feel that somebody by the name of Philosopher Bob doesn't take much
>: getting started...


>Indeed. But his kudo rant occurred before this exchange... no blame this
>time, Ken.

>:)

You wouldn't be implying blame for other times, would you, now?

Excuse me while I borrow that smiley of yours.

Ken.

Michael Spooner

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On 26 Mar 1997 07:16:57 GMT, mud...@netuser.com (Mudcat) wrote:

>In article <AF5C4DAB...@cara.demon.co.uk>, pe...@cara.demon.co.uk
>(Peter Ceresole) wrote:
>
>>I've never tried rattlesnake but I like the sound of it. And what the hell
>>are mountain oysters?
>
>Rattlesnake tastes like chicken :-)
>
>Mountain oysters are woobies [tm] from steers.

I believe the bovine version of mountain oysters are called calf fries.

Michael Spooner

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On Mon, 24 Mar 1997 23:51:08 +0000, Simon & Kathryn
<se...@ghent.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Well that's just the point, why foot the extra cost if the taste is
similar. I've tried buffalo steaks (Ok I know the animal is really a
bison) and the taste is close to beef, albeit lower in fat and double the
cost. BTW, we have an ostrich ranch less then a mile away although I've
never had ostrich steaks. I understand ostrich ranching is the up and
coming thing with a very favorable cost to profit ratio.

Michael Spooner

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On Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:33:10 +0000, pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole)
wrote:

>I really can't understand how people can be so finnicky about what they eat
>in that way; if it's been properly cooked and is sanctified by a long
>history of being eaten, it can't do any harm. And as I say, all your list
>(apart from rattlesnake) I have tried and liked. It's good stuff.
>
>But then there's no accounting for taste. A friend of ours who is a True
>Brit came on holiday with us to Brittany. We would go to the auction of the
>catches every morning and buy a couple of kilos of prawns, still alive,
>which we would cook in a huge saucepan with some herbs. They were as
>delicious as anything you could imagine. When Roger realised that they were
>alive (he found out because he put his hand into the bag and got nipped) he
>refused to eat any. So Anne made fish, but he saw her cutting the heads off
>so that was that. In the end she made him fish fingers. This was a high
>quality serious TV journalist who has been responsible for programmes which
>made everybody sweat blood but he couldn't stand the thought that he was
>eating anything that had been alive (except governments). Fascinating what
>upbringing does for us.

Well of course food appreciation has everything to do with how one is
raised isn't it? My mother liked to cook and she was always trying
different things and she insisted that the Spooner children at least try a
new food. Hey, I even like buttermilk!

Michael Spooner

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On Tue, 25 Mar 1997 07:58:19 GMT, kse...@earthlink.net (Karen Sexton)
wrote:

>mspo...@tfb.com (Michael Spooner) wrote:
>
>>I've long had a problem with people that people to seem compelled to
>>describe such fare as octopus, frog legs, rattlesnake, and I suppose even
>>"Mountain Oysters" ( I'm sure more examples can be conjured) as tasting
>>"JUST LIKE CHICKEN". Although I tend to have an adventuresome palate, such
>>comments make me feel like saying: "THEN PLEASE BRING ME CHICKEN!!!!!"
>

>The only thing that doesn't taste like chicken is chicken.
>
>Karen, won't eat anything with suction cups, either

Just get all those Jules Vern memories out of your head and give it a try,
not bad really.

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