"If you don't like it, you can fuck off!"

[Gus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Moon#Death

In mid-1978 Moon moved into a flat in Curzon Place (later Curzon Square), Shepherd Market, Mayfair, London, renting from Harry Nilsson. Cass Elliot had died there four years earlier, at the age of 32;[134][135] Nilsson was concerned about letting the flat to Moon, believing it was cursed. Townshend disagreed, assuring him that "lightning wouldn't strike the same place twice."[136]

After moving in, Moon began a prescribed course of Heminevrin (clomethiazole, a sedative) to alleviate his alcohol withdrawal symptoms. He wanted to get sober, but due to his fear of psychiatric hospitals he wanted to do it at home. Clomethiazole is discouraged for unsupervised detoxification because of its addictive potential, its tendency to induce tolerance and its risk of death when mixed with alcohol.[137] The pills were prescribed by Geoffrey Dymond, a physician who was unaware of Moon's lifestyle. Dymond prescribed a bottle of 100 pills, instructing him to take one pill when he felt a craving for alcohol but not more than three pills per day.[138]

By September 1978 Moon was having difficulty playing the drums, according to roadie Dave "Cy" Langston. After seeing Moon in the studio trying to overdub drums for The Kids Are Alright, he said: "After two or three hours, he got more and more sluggish, he could barely hold a drum stick."[139]
Keith Moon's plaque at Golders Green Crematorium
Moon's plaque at Golders Green Crematorium

On 6 September Moon and Walter-Lax were guests of Paul and Linda McCartney at a preview of the film, The Buddy Holly Story. After dining with the McCartneys at Peppermint Park in Covent Garden, Moon and Walter-Lax returned to their flat. He watched a film (The Abominable Dr. Phibes), and asked Walter-Lax to cook him steak and eggs. When she objected, Moon replied "If you don't like it, you can fuck off!" These were his last words.[134] Moon then took 32 clomethiazole tablets. When Walter-Lax checked on him the following afternoon, she discovered he was dead.[140]

Curbishley phoned the flat at around 5 pm looking for Moon, and Dymond gave him the news. Curbishley told Townshend, who informed the rest of the band. Entwistle was giving an interview to French journalists when he was interrupted by a phone call with the news of Moon's death. Trying to tactfully and quickly end the interview, he broke down and wept when the journalist asked him about The Who's future plans.[141]

Moon's death came shortly after the release of Who Are You. On the album cover, he is straddling a chair to hide his weight gain; the words "Not to be taken away" are on the back of the chair.[142]

Police determined that there were 32 clomethiazole pills in Moon's system. Six were digested, sufficient to cause his death; the other 26 were undigested when he died.[138] Max Glatt, an authority on alcoholism, wrote in The Sunday Times that Moon should never have been given the drug.[143] Moon was cremated on 13 September 1978 at Golders Green Crematorium in London, and his ashes were scattered in its Gardens of Remembrance.[144]

Townshend convinced Daltrey and Entwistle to carry on touring as the Who, although he later said that it was his means of coping with Moon's death and "completely irrational, bordering on insane." AllMusic's Bruce Eder said, "When Keith Moon died, the Who carried on and were far more competent and reliable musically, but that wasn't what sold rock records."[145][136] In November 1978, Faces drummer Kenney Jones joined The Who. Townshend later said that Jones "was one of the few British drummers who could fill Keith's shoes";[146] Daltrey was less enthusiastic, saying that Jones "wasn't the right style."[147] Keyboardist John "Rabbit" Bundrick, who had rehearsed with Moon earlier in the year,[105] joined the live band as an unofficial member.[148][149]

Jones left the Who in 1988,[150] and drummer Simon Phillips (who praised Moon's ability to drum over the backing track of "Baba O'Riley") toured with the band the following year.[151] Since 1994 The Who's drummer has been Ringo Starr's son, Zak Starkey, who learned to drum from Moon (whom he called "Uncle Keith") as a teenager.[152]

The London 2012 Summer Olympic Committee contacted Who manager Bill Curbishley about Moon performing at the games, 34 years after his death. In an interview with The Times Curbishley quipped, "I emailed back saying Keith now resides in Golders Green crematorium, having lived up to The Who's anthemic line 'I hope I die before I get old' ... If they have a round table, some glasses and candles, we might contact him."[153]

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Fuck him.

[Gus]

in the ass, or mouth?

[Gus]

On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 11:26:53 AM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

maybe we could TJ or . involved and double team him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_fNGa26hig

[Tommy Joe]

OllieN...@aol.com wrote:

> Fuck him.


The long articles Gus sends in cannot possibly be read and ingested and commented on. Gus is a delivery boy. He sees stuff he thinks he might find entertaining or informative, reads maybe a paragraph of it, then sends off for others to read. Has anyone ever read an entire article sent in by Gus? I haven't. Bozo is now a link guy too. I can understand it with some things. "Wow, this is outstanding, I've got to let other people see it." But every day ala Gus, come on man, that is truly sick. And I am sick for being here to see it and complain about it and keep coming back for more. I am nore nuts than Gus but will not try to prove it. I will not try to do anything ever again. I will ride the wave. Wherever it drops me, that's where I'll be. Lying on the rocky shore crushed to pieces, my soul dust already rising into the air to await the ship that takes us to our future destination.

TJ

[Gus]

you make me want to bang my head against the wall

[Ivan May]

Keith was a good drummer, and it sucks that he wasted away.

Who You Are is a good album.

[Thomas Joseph]

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-4, Ivan May wrote:
> Keith was a good drummer, and it sucks that he wasted away.
>
> Who You Are is a good album.

Keith was the best. When I was in my prime in Hollywood, hanging out with industry bigwigs as well as artists of renown, I had my own pad, a loft in fact - a big place - and I would invite the best musicians and singers of the era over to jam. A lot of the really good songs you remember to this day were written in my pad. They came from improv style jams which I would interrupt every now and yelling, "That's it, right there - that's what we want to hear", and the guys would yell for me to shut the fuck up, they haven't reached their peak yet. That is when I learned to simply tape their jams and not to interrupt. Later I would play the best parts back to them and some would be astounded. I remember one time Mick Jagger and his boys were riffing at my pad and I caught what I thought was one of the best moments of music I ever heard. I told Mick about it, asked him to listen. "Yeah, yeah, I remember that part - I remember playing it. Didn't think it was much at the time - I was soaring man, really into the future, not dwelling so much in the here and now. Yeah, no doubt about it, I missed that one." Next thing you know Mick and his crew have taken that simple riff and turned it into a tune that zoomed to number one on the charts. I will not mention the song because I don't need a law suit right now. Anyway, I once invited a bunch of the best drummers in the biz over to my pad. They all knew it would be a good time. They brought their band mates with them but I said it won't matter because tonight I want to hear only drums. Nothing else. So, one after the other the best stickmen in the biz took over and I'd close my eyes and listen - no backup, no song, just the sticks working their magic. I did this a number of times - inviting only drummers over - and I kept doing it until I was able to tell who was holding the sticks and bouncing them off the skins. Oh man those were the days. Was Keith the best? Not in my opinion. I think his drumming sucked. But then Keith was not one of the big names I invited to play at my pad. So I never really got to groove on Keith's sound all by itself as I did with so many of the other greats of that era whose names I will not mention because of possible law suits.

Rock on brother man!

[bosod...@gmail.com]

Gus makes no sense but more than you do you soft-brained typist.

[bosod...@gmail.com]

It's one thing to be a conspiratorial copy-pasting drone like "Gus" whoever he is (in 2015 no less), it's quite another to be a soft-brained typist who happily bangs on a keyboard whether anybody's listening or not and says happily just what he "feels" day in day out.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Gus makes no sense but more than you do you soft-brained typist.

That's fine with me. Making sense was never my forte and never will be. Does that make sense to you? Well does it punk?

Did you post that into the group? I guess maybe Mr. May was googling something and got our group based on the detection of a single word or phrase. For instance, let's say a guy is a shit fancier. He pumps shit fancier into the google bar and is taken to this post. The post has nothing to do with shit, other than the way your breath probably smells - but google is doing everything it can to help people get to where they need to be. Or maybe it's some guy wanting to join Clown School pumping in clown school and being taken to our group on the basis of me telling you you're not a real clown because you never went to 'clown school." Mr. May may never post again into our group but I am sure he is now a full time lurker like so many others - literally hundreds if not thousands making up our devoted loyal readership.

[Thomas Joseph]

> It's one thing to be a conspiratorial copy-pasting drone like "Gus" whoever he is (in 2015 no less), it's quite another to be a soft-brained typist who happily bangs on a keyboard whether anybody's listening or not and says happily just what he "feels" day in day out.

Makes me feel good. Better than killing a bunch of people, don't you think? As for Gus, he was Somebody - Tom Something or other - some kind of Polish sounding name. He was from Louisville Kentucky, used to post here a lot, even before we came along. He could have died or maybe he just moved on, beyond Bozo, beyond Thomas Joseph, beyond Ollie - deep into the future Facebook style.

[bosod...@gmail.com]

You may have never been to Clown School or High School for that matter either but by the authority vested in me I hereby confer upon you the title of Emotional Clown because you without fail have always invoked your clowness with true shameless emotional conviction.

[Thomas Joseph]

> You may have never been to Clown School or High School for that matter either but by the authority vested in me I hereby confer upon you the title of Emotional Clown because you without fail have always invoked your clowness with true shameless emotional conviction.

I am an emotional newsgroup e-clown. I have clout. E-clout. Emotional Clown Lord Of Our Times. I don't like clowness. It doesn't look right. Did you misspell it? I prefer Clownhood or Clownworthyness. Clowness just doesn't get it. You call yourself a clown but you don't rate. I don''t like real clowns. But I do like clownish people. If at some point in your life you possessed that quality I can assure it is gone now, probably forever. I see no hope for you Bozo. You need to revamp your humor. But I need your help. I need you to help me help you - it's the only way: Teamwork.

Rock on Clown

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Looks like the group is fine without me. This is like dying and coming back to see what your being gone has impacted. looks like nothing. This is depressing. I am going to kill myself and then check back in a few days.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Looks like the group is fine without me. This is like dying and coming back to see what your being gone has impacted. looks like nothing. This is depressing. I am going to kill myself and then check back in a few days.

The new Ollie - the dead version, more alive than he ever was before. Come on man, you can't go by just one day. Everything looks fine without you, but after just a day I can tell you I was beginning to feel it, getting the jitters, wondering, "Is it really just me and Bozo now?", followed by, "What if Bozo leaves too?", followed by, "With our great readership I don't need anyone else. Sure, the feedback is great, helps spawn new 'material'. But this group will never die as long as our readership thrives as surely we know they do and will.

That would make for a great suicide note, by the way - notes from the guy after he's dead, talking about how he feels now, pleading with people he knew personally, those who drove him to kill himself, to please do everything in their power to find a way to dig him out of his self-made unmarked grave that exists only in the Twilight Zone.

"I've finally got what I wanted. At last. I have been dead only two days and believe me it's horrible. I had no idea it would be this bad. Let me tell you about it.............." That's how the story starts.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Things are moving fast now. Hurricanes are blowing. Power outages. Yes hard times acomin. But I am Joad Tough. We are the people. On the highways tipping waitresses and truckers are buying kids candy. Soon a man will be eating the fruits of his own labors. Vote for the commie or the Nazi they will make all things good.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Things are moving fast now. Hurricanes are blowing. Power outages. Yes hard times acomin. But I am Joad Tough. We are the people. On the highways tipping waitresses and truckers are buying kids candy. Soon a man will be eating the fruits of his own labors. Vote for the commie or the Nazi they will make all things good.

I don't care who you vote for - just get out there and do it. Make it count. Show you care. Wear your "JOAD TOUGH" tee shirt everywhere you go, especially into the voting booth. People will stop you on the street and ask, "What's JOAD TOUGH?", which is your cue launch into the same prepared speech you give to all potential recruits.

Speaking of power outages I had one yesterday. 2 hours. Not that long but there was a bunch of fresh stuff in the fridge designed to last 6 days and I was afraid stuff would go bad. But after two hours the power came back on. During the outage I thought about what could have caused it. Anything of course. But usually it's during a storm or lots of rain or ice. But as I lay there steaming over the outage I could not help but look at things in a negative way, wondering why they can't fix things faster. But then I thought about all the people living in even this average sized city and all the cities there are in the country and how hot it is outside with everyone using AC and other power sucking utilities and I found myself amazed that the outages don't happen more often. A national outage for a week or so would really spark some wild shit. Wouldn't it?

You are now a road guy. You need to get yourself an itinerary. Give yourself a purpose, like those guys who have to climb every state's highest peak or ride every state's biggest roller coaster. You must have a purpose. I suggest you consult Leif and get a good layout of his road comic history - where he first performed on up to the present. Then you can retrace his path from start to finish. How far would you make it into the Skyving tour before your heart would explode boom boom style?

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Skyving is a moving target. Never know where he will be next. He is the Raiders of the comedy world. Always relocating looking to win the big one.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Skyving is a moving target. Never know where he will be next. He is the Raiders of the comedy world. Always relocating looking to win the big one.

All a step up means in most endeavors is you get to do the same thing you're doing now for the rest of your life but on a bigger stage. Talked with Sky yesterday. He has decided to move back to the Richland Washington area. I was thinking he might settle back into L.A. He did not like what he saw of Vegas. I don't know much about it, but I don't blame him. I stay here for a variety of reasons, chief among them I'm too lazy (and scared) to move - and it's a visually appealing area. That counts for something. As you already know, wherever you go in life you're going to be there.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

On Thursday, July 15, 2021 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Skyving is a moving target. Never know where he will be next. He is the Raiders of the comedy world. Always relocating looking to win the big one.
> All a step up means in most endeavors is you get to do the same thing you're doing now for the rest of your life but on a bigger stage. Talked with Sky yesterday. He has decided to move back to the Richland Washington area. I was thinking he might settle back into L.A. He did not like what he saw of Vegas. I don't know much about it, but I don't blame him. I stay here for a variety of reasons, chief among them I'm too lazy (and scared) to move - and it's a visually appealing area. That counts for something. As you already know, wherever you go in life you're going to be there.

His nordic dick longs for the frozen north. You can fight the dick but the dick can't be beat.

[Thomas Joseph]

> His nordic dick longs for the frozen north. You can fight the dick but the dick can't be beat.

Obviously he is torn otherwise he'd already live at the North Pole. Yes, I agree, his cock urges him Northward, but something holds him back from going all the way. He is straddling the fence. For God's sake he's not even into Canada yet. His dick longs for the frozen tundra, the rest of him for the balmy tropics. This is schizophrenia at it's ultimate.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 6:37:48 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > His nordic dick longs for the frozen north. You can fight the dick but the dick can't be beat.
> Obviously he is torn otherwise he'd already live at the North Pole. Yes, I agree, his cock urges him Northward, but something holds him back from going all the way. He is straddling the fence. For God's sake he's not even into Canada yet. His dick longs for the frozen tundra, the rest of him for the balmy tropics. This is schizophrenia at it's ultimate.

His foreskin gets slimy in warm climes.

[Thomas Joseph]

> His foreskin gets slimy in warm climes.

He's missing out. Or he's holding out on us. I know for a fact there are some ultra wealthy potentates in the middle east who pay big bucks to suck or even just smell slimy foreskin. People born into the area are conditioned to it. Their foreskins do not get slimy. Outsiders are needed. Big bucks are paid for just a few minutes of sucking and sniffing. But some potentates offer even bigger bucks - enough to last any practical minded person a lifetime - to have foreskins surgically removed so they can keep them and smell them every day for the rest of their lives. Some really oddball potentates will pay circumcised guys to wear the foreskins during sex. Like a glove for the cock. Form fitting.

Me? If I'm a homo - well, am I or not? - I would go for the ultra cut cock, the type with skin as thin as cellophane over a cock so raw and tight it looks like it's going to burst. You get to see the multi-segmented workhorse do it's thing from all angles. Without a visible warhead how in the name of God can a cock be interesting to anyone?

[OllieN...@aol.com]

On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 5:25:18 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > His foreskin gets slimy in warm climes.
> He's missing out. Or he's holding out on us. I know for a fact there are some ultra wealthy potentates in the middle east who pay big bucks to suck or even just smell slimy foreskin. People born into the area are conditioned to it. Their foreskins do not get slimy. Outsiders are needed. Big bucks are paid for just a few minutes of sucking and sniffing. But some potentates offer even bigger bucks - enough to last any practical minded person a lifetime - to have foreskins surgically removed so they can keep them and smell them every day for the rest of their lives. Some really oddball potentates will pay circumcised guys to wear the foreskins during sex. Like a glove for the cock. Form fitting.
>

LOL@potenate

[Thomas Joseph]

> LOL@potenate


I love it. Just one word. Doesn't even have to have a humorous intention. Just mainly a word rarely used, especially be me. But that is what I pictured. Not just any rich guy, but a guy who dresses the part - not because he has to but because that's just the way it is. Most potentates are born. True scum I'd say. Very dangerous. Probably some good ones though. But rare, real rare.


"Potentate seeks young male for anal sex, possible long term relationship."

[OllieN...@aol.com]

I see him wearing a fez.

[Thomas Joseph]

> I see him wearing a fez.

Yes. Also very fat with a big green cigar in his mouth at all times. Slobbering, barking orders in a happy way to a host of followers dying to obey his every command. I used to pick up such old world characters in Hollywood at Ali Baba's and other hotspots. They were regulars, mostly Turkish I think, and they all had that cheap, slovenly, big fish in a small pond Potentate look to them. They usually tipped ok too. Mostly for show of course. Fine with me.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 4:11:43 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I see him wearing a fez.
> Yes. Also very fat with a big green cigar in his mouth at all times. Slobbering, barking orders in a happy way to a host of followers dying to obey his every command. I used to pick up such old world characters in Hollywood at Ali Baba's and other hotspots. They were regulars, mostly Turkish I think, and they all had that cheap, slovenly, big fish in a small pond Potentate look to them. They usually tipped ok too. Mostly for show of course. Fine with me.

Sydney Greenstreet. Swatting flies at the Blue Parrot. Bogart making sure Sam gets his cut. Those were the days.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Sydney Greenstreet. Swatting flies at the Blue Parrot. Bogart making sure Sam gets his cut. Those were the days.

Yes, yes - you nailed it. Personality wise Greenstreet sums it up except for the swarthiness. He is not swarthy enough to be a real potentate. Fat and swarthy. Sweaty. Stubby fingers. Big fat stomach. You suck his cock for money - and believe me it's worth it once it's over - oh man does that cock ever smell. As if it's been in a cave for months. You have to suck it a good 20 minutes just to work through the smegma. Finally you get it squeaky clean. Then pre cum starts to ooze from the head. This is bad, real bad. But it's not as bad as the smegma stink that smacked you upside the head when first you encountered the potentate's mighty Pillar of Putridity.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 4:26:22 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Sydney Greenstreet. Swatting flies at the Blue Parrot. Bogart making sure Sam gets his cut. Those were the days.
> Yes, yes - you nailed it. Personality wise Greenstreet sums it up except for the swarthiness. He is not swarthy enough to be a real potentate. Fat and swarthy. Sweaty. Stubby fingers. Big fat stomach. You suck his cock for money - and believe me it's worth it once it's over - oh man does that cock ever smell. As if it's been in a cave for months. You have to suck it a good 20 minutes just to work through the smegma. Finally you get it squeaky clean. Then pre cum starts to ooze from the head. This is bad, real bad. But it's not as bad as the smegma stink that smacked you upside the head when first you encountered the potentate's mighty Pillar of Putridity.

The Turks know how to savor a cock.

[Thomas Joseph]

> The Turks know how to savor a cock.

Turkish coffee proves it. Look how small the cups are. Not a lot there. Gotta learn how to make it last. Yes, the Turks invented savoring. They applied it over time to more than just food and drink and cocks. They also invented ultra long term torture. At that time lots of culture were into torturing people for days, even weeks. But months at a clip. even a year working the same goof over and over again - the Turks invented it. And it all stems from savoring.

I will savor your suffering

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Isn't turkish tobacco the best? Worth walking a mile for? Well I wont walk a block for it. Fuck the Turks. Bunch of Turkeys

[Thomas Joseph]

> Isn't turkish tobacco the best? Worth walking a mile for? Well I wont walk a block for it. Fuck the Turks. Bunch of Turkeys.

I'm not big into History but I remember living in L.A. going to East Hollywood a lot to buy Armenian stuff like olives and bread and other good deli stuff and one day a year they would all be closed in honor of "the Armenian Holocaust" in 1918 or whenever when the Turks supposedly slaughtered a bunch of them, many who fled to Greece. That is why a lot of guys who open Greek restaurants in American are actually Armenian. Greek Armenian. Used to piss me off when I'd take the bus to grab some stuff only to see that sign: "Closed today in observance of the Armenian Holocaust."

"I'm telling you Your Honor, they wouldn't let me into their store 'cause I was wearing a fez."

[OllieN...@aol.com]

More victimhood shit. Well as a person who causes victims I would rather be on the victimizing side.

[Thomas Joseph]

> > "I'm telling you Your Honor, they wouldn't let me into their store 'cause I was wearing a fez."
> More victimhood shit. Well as a person who causes victims I would rather be on the victimizing side.

I agree. But at least it's only once a year and it's not like 4 movies a year with the Jew Holocaust and all the other shit. I'm sure if the Armenians could pull it off they would. But right now as far as suffering goes they are playing second fiddle to the Jew and always will. The Turks are swarthy creeps, it's obvious. But maybe they had their reasons for killing the "Menians. Maybe the Menians had it coming.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Holding grudges is not for me. Or at least I try not to. Seems enough new shit happens every day to make having an old grudge not worth it.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Holding grudges is not for me. Or at least I try not to. Seems enough new shit happens every day to make having an old grudge not worth it.

Every time something bad happens you thank the perpetrator for allowing you to let go of yesterday and to focus on today. Yes, when it comes to grudges, out with the old, in with the new.

This is a grudge match buddy. Whoever loses leaves town in a pine box.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Wrestling is a tough sport. No holds barred kind of stuff. No guns or knoves but chairs are ok.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Wrestling is a tough sport. No holds barred kind of stuff. No guns or knoves but chairs are ok.

I like most pro wrestlers. When I was a kid one of my 'heroes' was Wild Red Berry, an ex wrestler who became a loud mouth manager of a variety of bad guy wrestlers, chief among them, at least from my time, "Hans Mortier". Berry was an entertaining guy and I'm not sure he even knew it. He wore a checkered vest and derby hat and carried a cane ala Bat Masterson. Wrestlers didn't talk as much back then, only a select few stars. Their managers did the talking. Berry would use big words, telling the crowd his boy was going to dislodge his opponent's module oblong gotta from the lower cranium, and so forth. I loved it. I see it on TV now and then, stumble into it. It's funny. But not for long. I won't watch it for a long time. The wrestlers are nowhere near as good at talking as they were 20 to 30 years ago. I got into watching it with my buddy Charles back when Hogan and Jake the Snake and other guys with decent personalities ruled the ring. I had WWF manager Bobby Heenen in the cab here in town. Didn't know it was him. Two guys with him with him were big but not huge. I thought they were wrestlers. They were. Heenen was holding court. Everything he said that was supposed to be funny they'd laugh at it. Then I said, "Hey, has anybody ever told you you sound like Bobby Heenen." He said, "I am Bobby Heenen", and I laughed. Dropped them off at the arena. This was maybe 15 years ago. I told Heenen I don't enjoy pro wrestling as much as I used to. I told him I thought there were too many guys in the ring at the same time and too much glitz and bullshit and not enough personality and character. And he agreed with me. "I work for them", he said. "I don't like it either, but we do the best we can", or whatever.

"No, no, don't tell me me he's really going to do it - not the steel steps."

"Yep Bob, that's where he's heading. He's going to smash his face straight into the steps. But first, one more leap off the turnbuckle."

What makes me laugh and also bugs me about pro wrestling is how it's very circus like in formula. In the circus typically an aerialist will make two failed attempts at something (on purpose), to make success on attempt #3 seem more important. Same with counting a guy out on the mat. He always gets his shoulder off the mat right after #2. Very predictable stuff. But that's part of the entertainment. Like when a guy is in the center of the ring bad mouthing an up and coming opponent through the mic we know a sneak attack is on the way. Sometimes they bring gymnast types into the ring, but other than that the real show is outside the ring for sure.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

I wonder if they are doing the BLM schtick on WWF. That could be pretty funny. Getting into fights over BLM and Trump.

[Thomas Joseph]

> I wonder if they are doing the BLM schtick on WWF. That could be pretty funny. Getting into fights over BLM and Trump.

I think it could ruin it. Keep politics out of it. They do have all American characters vs evil guys from other countries though. Very cartoonish. I like it. Like Superman. He's a good guy. But he can go bad. Everyone has their kryptonite. In pro wrestling they pull that sometimes, where suddenly a good guy turns bad for some reason - usually a good one. But I am not opposed to the introduction of anything into the game. I just think in the long run politics ruins things. But going only so far might be good, like during the election to have one wrestler wearing a Biden mask and the other guy wearing one of Trump.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

On Monday, July 26, 2021 at 8:50:56 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I wonder if they are doing the BLM schtick on WWF. That could be pretty funny. Getting into fights over BLM and Trump.
> I think it could ruin it. Keep politics out of it. They do have all American characters vs evil guys from other countries though. Very cartoonish. I like it. Like Superman. He's a good guy. But he can go bad. Everyone has their kryptonite. In pro wrestling they pull that sometimes, where suddenly a good guy turns bad for some reason - usually a good one. But I am not opposed to the introduction of anything into the game. I just think in the long run politics ruins things. But going only so far might be good, like during the election to have one wrestler wearing a Biden mask and the other guy wearing one of Trump.

Good point. And I will leave it at that.