Oxtail soup

[Judith Latham]

https://www.mynourishedhome.com/hearty-oxtail-soup-recipe/

This hearty Oxtail Soup Recipe is thicker than a soup, but not quite a
stew. Rich and full of veggies, you are going to love this flavor!

Course: Main Dishes, Soup, Salad & Sandwich

Servings: 4 people

Ingredients
4 lbs oxtail
1 large onion diced
4 cloves garlic minced
4 large carrots diced
2 cup spinach
2 cup baby kale
3 cup beef broth
salt & pepper

Instructions
Season oxtail well on all sides with salt and pepper.
In a dutch oven (or large pot), drizzle olive oil all over the bottom
and brown all sides of each ox tail. Once they are all brown, remove and
place them in a bowl. Add the onion and garlic to the pot, sautee until
soft and translucent.

Return the oxtail, plus all the juices that have collected in the bowl,
into your dutch oven. Add the spinach and kale and pour in the beef
broth. Cover, bring it to a boil and then reduce heat. Let it simmer for
3 hours. Once the meat is tender and falling off the bone, toss in the
carrots and cook until they are soft.

This dish is thicker than most broth-based soups but not as thick as
stew. I love this stew just like it is on a cold day. But it's also
delicious over rice or with egg noodles.

[OllieN...@aol.com]

I do not like ox tail.

[Judith Latham]

That's very selfish of you. Some poor ox is roaming about with out his
tail and you don't have the decency to eat it? You must learn to think
of others, even if the other is just an ox.

[Thomas Joseph]

> That's very selfish of you. Some poor ox is roaming about with out his
> tail and you don't have the decency to eat it? You must learn to think
> of others, even if the other is just an ox.

Judith, I see you are trying to bring rec.food.cooking to our group. Why? Did you fall out of favor over there, or what? I went there the other day and saw you had posted recipe type stuff into threads that didn't seem to drift randomly into unplanned topics. This tells me you're trying to kiss up to the RFC people in some way, to prove to them that you are a good girl and will play by the rules. So you come to our group seeking haven. We give it to you. But do you appreciate it? I don't know. That is why I am asking Ollie to help me institute a new policy for newcomers to our group - a policy that allows them to be themselves and say whatever they want to say at all times, but only after they have openly admitted they are lucky to have been accepted into the greatest news group of all time.

[Thomas Joseph]

> I do not like ox tail.

It's funny, I don't like making other people's recipes - they always turn out bad - but I do enjoy reading them from time to time. First thing I look for is the list of ingredients. If there are too many ingredients I stop reading right there. It has to be simple. Like with the ox tail, the recipe sounds simple enough, I suppose you could substitute any meat. Plus even though I like browned meat I don't think it's necessary for soups and stews.

TJ - alt.life.sucks food critic

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Stews will have lots of items but that is the point of a stew. I like to taste what I am eating. Unless it is shit. Then it needs to be in a stew. A shit stew.

[Judith Latham]

I already admit that yours' is the greatest news group. You're also
right that they don't appreciate me there. That's why I must keep
posting to those ungrateful bastards. People must be made to understand
that fat women have rights too! I would ask for help but I understand
that some battles must be fought alone.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Stews will have lots of items but that is the point of a stew. I like to taste what I am eating. Unless it is shit. Then it needs to be in a stew. A shit stew.

Perhaps it is my preoccupation with all things turd that trends my tastes toward soups and stews. I basically live on that stuff. When I say a lot of ingredients scare me off a recipe I'm talking more about the spices and other oddball purposely exotic sounding spices that few people have in their cupboards. I see too many spices and I pass the recipe by right away. My stews are great. I am a good prepper. My stews sometimes look like shit. Yes, that's it - they go in looking like shit and they come out looking like stew.

The Olde Switcheroo Stew

[Thomas Joseph]

> I already admit that yours' is the greatest news group. You're also
> right that they don't appreciate me there. That's why I must keep
> posting to those ungrateful bastards. People must be made to understand
> that fat women have rights too! I would ask for help but I understand
> that some battles must be fought alone.

All battles must be fought alone - and you will be alone for the rest of your life. You're just starting to round into form. Soon you will be great physical shape - the kind of shape that comes with fighting one battle after another all your life. Soon you will begin to win some of those battles. You will become happy and strong. You will also become addicted to the battle. You will become so good at winning that every day you feel obligated to find a battle somewhere. Then you will look back on the old days - the days of NOW - and you will shed tears of great regret knowing that the past was your time and you let it slip away by griping about it all the time instead of seizing each day and eating it like freshly slaughtered battle meat.

[Thomas Joseph]

> I already admit that yours' is the greatest news group. You're also
> right that they don't appreciate me there. That's why I must keep
> posting to those ungrateful bastards. People must be made to understand
> that fat women have rights too! I would ask for help but I understand
> that some battles must be fought alone.

I like the food group. The helpful ones over there make it good. The Dsl1 person is very helpful. I do not force threads on those people. But if one changes topic and I like the way it rolls I will go with it. Some people - and I believe you are one of them Judith - like to lay down the law with the newbies. I have seen it. Not just you. From the few newsgroups I have visited I have determined it is not unique to any one group - they are all the same with some people feeling more in charge, usually because they were there first. But I have also noticed that some members who have been there a long time and are very helpful also do not complain about topics changing within threads - they simply move on from them. The ones who complain are part of the problem they complain about - maybe even the main reason. Personally I think the food group is very well run and most of the people are helpful with a few snob types sticking out as always. You know the type. They devote each day to putting down trolls (newcomers who don't accept their philosophies to the letter), but without the trolls they would have nothing to talk about. It's that way in lots of groups. But the food group seems busy and strong. I would not try to improve it. Sometimes trying to improve things destroys them. Like that typewriter I threw against the wall in my 20s. It had a stuck key and I tried to fix it. I did fix it. But it made other keys around it bend. Each new attempt to fix it resulted in more unintended damage until finally I just snapped and threw it against the wall.

"There, that'll fix you."

[Judith Latham]

That may explain why you never achieved the fame of Hemingway. The
talent was there, the typewriter wasn't.

[Thomas Joseph]

> That may explain why you never achieved the fame of Hemingway. The
> talent was there, the typewriter wasn't.

I am not a writer. Not in the true sense. And I don't want to be, not on the basis of most writer types I've met - all mostly assholes. Truth is I don't know what I am. A human being. I have small talents. Many of them. But I am great at nothing. I could be great. But that takes work. I am more against work than I am for being great.

If it weren't for the computer I wouldn't write at all. Very little anyway. I've owned typewriters and would go years without using them. It was not until I got internet and especially email, before I discovered the groups, that I started to write a bunch. I did it as a kid. With a pen. But I was an incorrigible in public school. I wouldn't do anything they told me to do. I was sent to a reform school as a result. You can say no at the reform school but you are going to pay for it dearly. A pretty brutal ultra disciplined place. But they had an actual school. Had it been a public school I probably would have said fuck you, but the reform school had a typing class and it was mandatory as were most things at the Philadelphia Protectory. I am glad I learned. I wanted to learn. I am fast with it, about 70 words a minute. But I have to stop when I type numbers and icons. I kind of cheated at the reform school, doing just enough to teach myself what I wanted to learn so I could write without using a pen. Later one day in my 20s or 30s I saw someone using a computer keyboard - in an office or something - and without touching it, just watching them using it - I knew if I ever got a type writer again it would be a computer. I like the keyboard. Bozo says I am a typist. He thinks that's a great put down. But it's the truth. I do type and send off a lot of stuff that I'd probably rip up half way through if I were writing it with pen and paper. But that's just one more reason why I like the computer - especially the web aspect of it - the give and take - the spontaneity, the lack of commitment - and most of all the 'send button.' I love the send button. It is my best friend.

[Judith Latham]

This is Usenet. Have a thought, type it, press send. This is what makes
it priceless. If people's feelings get hurt, fuck 'em if they can't take
a joke. That's what Harry Truman said when he was informed of the
destruction caused by the atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima

[Thomas Joseph]

> This is Usenet. Have a thought, type it, press send. This is what makes
> it priceless. If people's feelings get hurt, fuck 'em if they can't take
> a joke. That's what Harry Truman said when he was informed of the
> destruction caused by the atom bomb dropped on Hiroshima

Yes, I agree. Now I want you to know - and this is the truth (as usual) - that no matter how many times I insult someone or hurt their feelings in a newsgroup it was never planned from the start. I simply tell the truth. Now sometimes as I'm telling it I can hear in it's tone a certain sarcasm or maybe even bitterness, something negative - but I do not back out of it. In other words, I do not intend to offend, but can sometimes tell that what I'm saying could offend - but if so, too bad. As long as it's not intentional it's ok. That's my philosophy.

"Your Honor, I'm telling you I didn't mean it. Yes yes, I fired the gun at him. But I only wanted to graze him. I just wanted him to feel the bullet's heat passing close - I did not want to hit him. The gun had to be defective. Can you cut me a break on this one?"

"Well", says the Judge, "I have owned some poorly made guns in my time, so I can identify with you on this one. Still, you should have aimed further off. You failed to take into account the possibility of failure. This is negligence. I cannot let it slide. One month in jail should teach you a lesson. And when you get out I advise you to buy a new gun."

Get this creep out of my courtroom!

[OllieN...@aol.com]

I will appeal.

[Thomas Joseph]

> I will appeal.

Perry Mason is dead. You're going to need someone in his league, not easy to find these days. We have Hamilton Burger on our side, the greatest prosecutor who ever lived but was born at the wrong time and had to face Mason every day - no small chore. But he did it. Now he is ready to catch up. Win a bunch of cases. Starting with yours. Go ahead, file your stinking appeal - you are going down, convict!

[Judith Latham]

See what I mean, that's the judge saying "fuck 'em if they can't take a
joke".

[Thomas Joseph]

> See what I mean, that's the judge saying "fuck 'em if they can't take a
> joke".

If I were an attorney demanding an appeal for a client, even if the client is in jail on multiple murder charges, I would demand he be released during the appeal on the basis that his jailhouse status could have a negative influence on the jurors. "Your Honor, the jurors see my client coming through that back door, the one that connects to the holding cell, and they think, "There he is, there's the criminal." This is not fair. Sure, we dress him up in a suit and tie but the jurors know where he's spending his time - in a cell. For a fair trial I demand that my client be set free immediately. I will take responsibility for his actions up to at least a week before he is due to be sentenced. We never know how the defendant is going to act when it comes down to the wire. Even if we tell him not to worry, he's going to get off, he may not believe it. He is scared. But until then he is no threat to society."

[Judith Latham]

There's a sign hanging in the sheriff's office in Tyler, Texas. It reads:

black man kills a White - murder
White man kills a black - justifiable homicide
black kills another black - one less nigger

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Judith you are the most racist Jew on here after Bozo.

[Judith Latham]

Someone told me that they once heard Bozo say "I'm not a racist, I
just hate niggers". Please don't put me in that category. I think if I
had been around back in the days of slavery, I'd have been a good
master. My slaves would have loved me. Does that sound like a racist
to you? Bozo would have been one of those mean sons of bitches; hated
by all his slaves. Since Bozo and I are the only Jews here, your
statement that I'm the most racist after Bozo is technically true.

[Thomas Joseph]

> There's a sign hanging in the sheriff's office in Tyler, Texas. It reads:
>
> black man kills a White - murder
> White man kills a black - justifiable homicide
> black kills another black - one less nigger

Why does it have to be Texas? That's kind of like a cheap laugh track or stupid silly music designed to let viewers know it's ok to laugh. Like now it's ok to laugh at the Nigger joke because it's happening in Texas, not in New York or some other 'cosmopolitan' area. Well, to me there is not much cosmopolitan about most of New York. The ones that have lived there a long time, very set in their ways. I call them concrete farmers.

Here's one for you that is actually an anti anti Negro joke. I liked it when I first heard it though.

The FBI sends wanted posted to every cop station in America. Four shots, two profiled, two from the front. Four shots in all. A few days later the FBI gets a call from the Sheriff in Tyler Texas. "Call off your manhunt", he tells them, "we got all four of them."

[Thomas Joseph]

> Judith you are the most racist Jew on here after Bozo.

Judith? Ah, she's alright. Not as bad as Bozo. Still, they're both Jews and we have to be careful. Open, tolerant, generous, eager to teach, yearning to help - yet at all times vigilant. Remember, we are dealing with Jews here.

[Thomas Joseph]

> Someone told me that they once heard Bozo say "I'm not a racist, I
> just hate niggers". Please don't put me in that category. I think if I
> had been around back in the days of slavery, I'd have been a good
> master. My slaves would have loved me. Does that sound like a racist
> to you? Bozo would have been one of those mean sons of bitches; hated
> by all his slaves. Since Bozo and I are the only Jews here, your
> statement that I'm the most racist after Bozo is technically true.

LOL, "Someone told me................." I always like statements that start out that way, like the whole world is sitting around talking about Bozo. "Yo, what's the latest on Bozo - any word?"

Actually, in the long run the mean slaves were kinder than the gentle ones. When you love your slaves it encourages slave recidivism. They keep coming back. The mean ones control them tough, yes. But when they run away they stay gone, they don't keep coming back. When you shower them with love as you say you would do you are enabling the slave trade. Please remember that.

[bosod...@gmail.com]

I don't know WTF you're talking about. I only mentioned oxtail soup as a metaphor for something with hair still on it being cooked and burnt in rusty old cookware and smelling like meth and garlic the more it simmers.

[Thomas Joseph]

> I don't know WTF you're talking about. I only mentioned oxtail soup as a metaphor for something with hair still on it being cooked and burnt in rusty old cookware and smelling like meth and garlic the more it simmers.

Either you have a unique sense of humor or you're totally nuts, Bozo. I checked all posts into this thread and none came from you. So if you mentioned oxtail soup it had to be in another thread or in your silly clown brain. But I know what you mean - a good metaphor actually - "Something with hair still on it", etc., very funny and accurate vision. Like being burned alive. I can see it now, a crowd of hundreds attending the burning to death of a reviled criminal and later partying down at their favorite post execution haunts.

"Did you see him whimper as the flames grew higher?", says man #1.

"Nah", says man #2, I wasn't looking at him, I was there for the smell."

"Huh?", says man number #1. "You mean you didn't watch any of it?"

"No. Watching gets in the way. Remember the rules - no cameras allowed. So, how are you going to remember the event years from now when your mind's vision of it begins to dim? You will forget. But I won't. I won't forget because stench is etched into the brain. It is the most easily remembered of all things, especially the smell of something burning with hair still on it."

[Judith Latham]

The Germans and the Russians enjoyed doing it to each other's civilian
populations during WWII. You have to be a special kind of something to
indulge in such an activity. My bubbe's uncle Igor was in the NKVD and
told stories of going from village to village and roasting people alive.
He must have been one very sick puppy. You'd have liked him, I'm sure.

[Thomas Joseph]

> The Germans and the Russians enjoyed doing it to each other's civilian
> populations during WWII. You have to be a special kind of something to
> indulge in such an activity. My bubbe's uncle Igor was in the NKVD and
> told stories of going from village to village and roasting people alive.
> He must have been one very sick puppy. You'd have liked him, I'm sure.

I am not shocked by violence under conditions that allow it to blossom. I know what people can be deep down. After all, I am one myself. When the shit hits the fan neutrality goes out the window, and that includes being a civilian or even more so a medic or priest or some other privileged 'hands off' type who thinks they can hang around a war totally out of harms way. To hell with the civilians. Just kidding, I feel sorry for them. But better them than me.

[Judith Latham]

You have a valid point. I often wonder when I see pictures of the
Revolutionary War just who the f**k do these people think they are that
stand in front and play the flute and drums while those around them are
being slaughtered. If I'm the enemy, I shoot them right in the middle of
their foreheads; especially if they're playing a song that sucks. For
example, if they're playing "Yankee Doodle" you can consider those
mother-f**kers dead.

[Thomas Joseph]

> You have a valid point. I often wonder when I see pictures of the
> Revolutionary War just who the f**k do these people think they are that
> stand in front and play the flute and drums while those around them are
> being slaughtered. If I'm the enemy, I shoot them right in the middle of
> their foreheads; especially if they're playing a song that sucks. For
> example, if they're playing "Yankee Doodle" you can consider those
> mother-f**kers dead.

All the pomp and ceremony, the rituals of war and a bunch of other shit all the time. I have a motto that says, "If you have time to get fitted for a uniform it's not a real war." Well, it is a real war once they find themselves in the middle of it, but they don't know why they're there. So it's not their war, not really. How about the flag carriers? The precious flag. It must not fall. Have you noticed over the past 4 or 5 years, maybe longer, that flags are at a rather steady half staff all the time? This is part of the victim industry which is huge. I believe that war is a necessary thing, instinctively, that somehow we need it. It used to be nationalism that fueled war, but there is not enough real nationalism in our country to support a war, especially if the draft comes back. And if it ever does I want to see women drafted too. I want them on the front lines, the deep trenches, right there with the male meat waiting to be tenderized by sizzling bullets. But let's get off the woman/dude thing a minute, please - we were talking about something else. Oh yeah, nationalism. We have an all volunteer military consisting mainly of directionless mentally troubled assholes, some, maybe most psychotic. Nobody really supports them. But now the COVID thing along with other media fueled socially relevant bullshit has become the rallying cry. Medical people are referred to as our 'front line people'. Our heroes. Part of the massive first responder brigade requiring one disaster after another to keep in business. It seems in some way to revolve mostly around victimhood one way or another. Now you are a victim too as I force you to read my long and probably very poorly written blather blast.

[bosod...@gmail.com]

I wish these fucking posts were all better positioned, easier to find, and most of all just fucking worth my effort.

[Thomas Joseph]

> I wish these fucking posts were all better positioned, easier to find, and most of all just fucking worth my effort.

The secret - which I'm not sure you deserve to know, or have the guts to accept - is in the final word of your post - effort. Your effort. In order to advance and find happiness in your life - I know what I'm saying because I was a rehab counselor for 40 years - you will need to rid yourself of all vestiges of effort. Not just try less, but not try at all. Just let it flow. Hey, notice how 'flow' rhymes with 'Bozo'?

Go with the flow
Don't you know
If you're looking for success or a pocketful or dough
I can tell you exactly where you need most to go
You've got to go to the flow
Get in the flow and go daddy go
Get rid of the shovel
Get rid of the hoe
Eliminate work
Then go daddy go
Come down to earth, be a regular Joe
Don't strive to go high, don't strive to go low
To all efforts to strive say, "No daddy no"
No forward, no backwards - just keep the status quo
Drift on that boat, don't row daddy row
Reap the results of what other fates sow
Don't rush around blindly
Take what comes slow
On the ladder of effort
The lower rungs glow
With a message of hope for a clown filled with woe
That message of hope is "Just go with the flow"

To hell with effort. Am I getting through to you? How hard is it going to be for me to get my point across to you on this? How much effort must I put into saving you from your own destruction?

[OllieN...@aol.com]

Applause

[Thomas Joseph]

> Applause

I usually don't reply to LOLs or even 'applause' which is the primo prize, but in this case the word itself has inspired me to ask you if you remember the stupid question everyone was asking back in the 60s and 70s, I think from the book "Catcher in the Rye" - "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" I always thought that was a stupid question with probably many answers, one of which came to me on a a Cannon episode the other night when Cannon was playing a game of pool with somebody and the guy made a good shot and Cannon pumps his cue stick up and down a few times on the floor. This was seen often in poolrooms. It's a sign of recognition, acknowledging a good shot, even though at the moment he at the moment he is so resentful that even as he uses one hand to applaud the shot with his cue stick, he has enough fury in the other to strangle his opponent to death with the other.

[bosod...@gmail.com]

Then I'd prolly say you needed a Jew to fix if you really wanted it fixed but then what would a Jew want with a typewriter if he's got a "typist" eh Tommy?

[bosod...@gmail.com]

Rare truth from a clown like you. Or as negroes say "Tru dat".

[Judith Latham]

Ebonics, LOL!!

[Thomas Joseph]

> Actually, in the long run the mean slaves were kinder than the gentle ones. When you love your slaves it encourages slave recidivism. They keep coming back. The mean ones control them tough, yes. But when they run away they stay gone, they don't keep coming back. When you shower them with love as you say you would do you are enabling the slave trade. Please remember that.


> Rare truth from a clown like you. Or as negroes say "Tru dat".


> Ebonics, LOL!!

"S'all good as long as I gets mines."