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Judith Latham

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Sep 8, 2021, 2:35:21 PM9/8/21
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> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 9:46:48 PM UTC-5, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 1:59:29 PM UTC-5, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, OllieN...@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > Pay dirt means gold. when digging the dirt finally pays off. Well no grave digger ever hit pay dirt from what I know about it.
>> >
>> >
>> > That is not true. In fact (another little known fact), gold was discovered initially in the grave of a murder victim whose killer meant only to put just enough dirt over the guy to conceal the body. But he kept running into rock, even beneath the desert sands. Finally he realized it was gold. He couldn't claim it though or he would be caught and hung for murder. So he told a friend about it - said, "You can put the claim in your name and we'll split the pot." He took his friend out to the grave site but did not show him the body, just the gold. "This is the spot", he said. "Put in your claim." His friend went and put in the claim. Then later he tortured his friend until he turned over the deed in his name. Then he buried him in the spot where he found the gold. Years later both bodies turned to dust. That is where the term "gold dust" comes from.
>> Dust to dust but first it is meat. Amazing gold is still valuable.



He forgot to mention that both men were Jewish. I think that's important
to mention on Rosh Hashanah.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 8, 2021, 4:01:15 PM9/8/21
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> He forgot to mention that both men were Jewish. I think that's important
> to mention on Rosh Hashanah.


Why Jew, why?
Cry Kike cry
Why Jew, why?
Coming down hard off a yarmulke high

Back from the pawn shop
A hard day's work
Work and sleep, work and sleep
It's enough to drive you berserk

So I got the chance to kill a friend
Within a partnered pretense
I had to make sure his back was turned
So he could offer little de-fense

Then down with the rock on my Jew friend's skull
With a pound of gold blood beaten steady and dull
He was after me, he would have done the same
But I beat him to it - I won at the game

When it comes to Jews and the taking of jewels
I'm telling you bro', there ain't no rules
But we know it's ok, we learned it in school
So no one gets mad and everything's cool

But overall I've got to say
I'm sick of talking about Jews on this day
I want to talk about something besides Jews, farts, and dicks
Let's talk about gooks and negroes and spics

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 9, 2021, 2:39:02 PM9/9/21
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I love Friday nights watching the Jews scamper around before it gets dark.

Judith Latham

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Sep 9, 2021, 4:02:20 PM9/9/21
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There's money to be made with all that scampering about. Our boarder,
Tom, makes decent money on Fridays just by turning lights on and off,
pushing elevator buttons, and plugging in and turning on vibrators for
the ladies. Those poor women have no idea what they're missing.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 9, 2021, 5:10:45 PM9/9/21
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> > I love Friday nights watching the Jews scamper around before it gets dark.
> There's money to be made with all that scampering about. Our boarder,
> Tom, makes decent money on Fridays just by turning lights on and off,
> pushing elevator buttons, and plugging in and turning on vibrators for
> the ladies. Those poor women have no idea what they're missing.


Forget about the Jews for a minute. Take any religion. Don't you think it's foolish to believe in an almighty God only to try to trick him at every turn. In a way it reminds me of murder for hire. Who's more guilty, the person who does the hit or the person who pays for it? God's rule says no lights on after sundown. But some smart people - and they say Jews are the smartest - have figured a way to get past it. Get someone else to do it. I told this to a Jew once and he admitted I was right but reminded me that although we are made in the image of God we really don't know him. How do we know he doesn't respect people who try to break his rules in ingenious ways? It's God's fault for leaving the door open a crack. But seriously, don't these God fearing people know it's impossible to trick God? But as I said, it's a boring universe, especially for a big man like God - so maybe sometimes he enjoys it when people try to fool him. In fact, some theorize that that's why God made up rules in the first place, to see who was bold enough to try and almost smart enough to get away with it. As a result he adores the Jews.

"For they shall be made in my image and they shall be called pawnbrokers." - God

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 9, 2021, 5:16:05 PM9/9/21
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> I love Friday nights watching the Jews scamper around before it gets dark.


LOL because I didn't know what you were talking about. At first I thought you meant the Jews who own the bars and other late-nite trouble-causing establishments saw the dark closing in and knew things were about to get rowdy, so they took the absentee landlord route. They don't work the carnival, they own it. They run it. But they don't hang around. When they see it's about to go down they yell to each other, "Ok you guys, turn on the lights, the night is upon us. Vamoose!"

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 10, 2021, 4:35:31 AM9/10/21
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On Thursday, September 9, 2021 at 5:16:05 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I love Friday nights watching the Jews scamper around before it gets dark.
> LOL because I didn't know what you were talking about. At first I thought you meant the Jews who own the bars and other late-nite trouble-causing establishments saw the dark closing in and knew things were about to get rowdy, so they took the absentee landlord route. They don't work the carnival, they own it. They run it. But they don't hang around. When they see it's about to go down they yell to each other, "Ok you guys, turn on the lights, the night is upon us. Vamoose!"


The original Jews were black. Then a bunch of whites killed them and stole the book.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 10, 2021, 6:29:12 PM9/10/21
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> The original Jews were black. Then a bunch of whites killed them and stole the book.

Then whites began to fight over the book and its meaning and how it is to be used. The winners earn the right to call themselves Jews. So in essence you are saying that Jews are superior whites? No matter what you say I know you're going to say it because I wrote the book. Do you hear me? I wrote the book.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 10, 2021, 8:25:19 PM9/10/21
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On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 6:29:12 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The original Jews were black. Then a bunch of whites killed them and stole the book.
> Then whites began to fight over the book and its meaning and how it is to be used. The winners earn the right to call themselves Jews. So in essence you are saying that Jews are superior whites? No matter what you say I know you're going to say it because I wrote the book. Do you hear me? I wrote the book.

In battle they lasted longer because the big Jew nose could provide more oxygen.

The Book of Jew

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 11, 2021, 6:58:38 PM9/11/21
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> In battle they lasted longer because the big Jew nose could provide more oxygen.
>
> The Book of Jew


Those days are long gone. We have come a long way. Our new age warriors are built to endure. I'm not talking robots, I'm talking about real human warriors - our cherished volunteer force. Our leaders are currently working with scientists to figure out ways to make the human body less vulnerable for battle. We have body armor. But it can't be used all the time. For up close hand to hand get downs we see body, and especially facial feature, reduction as the way to go. We are suggesting our warriors have their noses and lips sanded down completely, their eyes driven back into thick-boned sockets. There is nothing phony added. We merely take what we've got and reduce it for battle. Take away any part of the body or face that can be grabbed. The first division outfitted in this way for battle will be called "The Slate Face Warriors."

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 12, 2021, 3:31:27 AM9/12/21
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Gooks are born that way.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 12, 2021, 5:18:03 PM9/12/21
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> Gooks are born that way.

But nowhere near as intense as the version I've got in mind. I'm talking pure slate heads here, nothing to grab onto. I'm talking about having the balls removed for warfare. I'm talking about living machines ready to rumble at the drop of a hat. Are you ready? So am I. Let's get it on.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 16, 2021, 5:06:48 AM9/16/21
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On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 5:18:03 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Gooks are born that way.
> But nowhere near as intense as the version I've got in mind. I'm talking pure slate heads here, nothing to grab onto. I'm talking about having the balls removed for warfare. I'm talking about living machines ready to rumble at the drop of a hat. Are you ready? So am I. Let's get it on.


Somewhere there are genetically made super soldiers with technology built in. They will be the baddest ever. Terminator like in deadliness. Could be a billion of them. In the end they will all end up in the junk yard.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 16, 2021, 7:22:48 PM9/16/21
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> Somewhere there are genetically made super soldiers with technology built in. They will be the baddest ever. Terminator like in deadliness. Could be a billion of them. In the end they will all end up in the junk yard.


LOL. You mean everything dies? I loved it. I thought you were going to further promote the super soldier concept only to gladden my heart with your final comment of super truth.

To the junk yard with all of them!

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 17, 2021, 12:41:35 AM9/17/21
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I read about these super rich who want immortality using genetics and technology. The transhumanism bunch. So only assholes will live forever. Sounds like a good time.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 17, 2021, 4:37:06 PM9/17/21
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> I read about these super rich who want immortality using genetics and technology. The transhumanism bunch. So only assholes will live forever. Sounds like a good time.


I don't mean to brag but I am a great interpreter of truth in wording. I am able to read between the lines, even with you. "These" super rich was clue number one of your resentment for them. This tells me if you had the money you would be first in line for the same eternal life procedures. You want to be an asshole but don't have the guts to admit it. But I know you are a smart guy, so I am assuming my words are being abzzzzzorbed by you as I am already feeling your acceptance. I am vibing out on your odyssey, grooving on your growth.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 18, 2021, 11:31:02 AM9/18/21
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On Friday, September 17, 2021 at 4:37:06 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I read about these super rich who want immortality using genetics and technology. The transhumanism bunch. So only assholes will live forever. Sounds like a good time.
> I don't mean to brag but I am a great interpreter of truth in wording. I am able to read between the lines, even with you. "These" super rich was clue number one of your resentment for them. This tells me if you had the money you would be first in line for the same eternal life procedures. You want to be an asshole but don't have the guts to admit it. But I know you are a smart guy, so I am assuming my words are being abzzzzzorbed by you as I am already feeling your acceptance. I am vibing out on your odyssey, grooving on your growth.


Of course I want to be in the big boys club but I wont grovel to get in.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 19, 2021, 7:46:30 PM9/19/21
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> Of course I want to be in the big boys club but I wont grovel to get in.


You are probably fibbing because you think it's what I want to hear. But I was just testing you. I know you don't care about being in the big boy's club, and neither do I. Now maybe you're testing me. Maybe your response was not the full truth on purpose, just to see what I might say in return. I don't know. I don't know everything. But I hope to God you're just kidding. Anybody wanting into the big boy's club is going to have a hard time getting into line because even though I am not myself a big boy, the big boys don't fuck with me. I am what is known in the world of competition as a 'short stop', someone who is not quite good enough to be a champion - but if you want to be one you're going to have to go through me - and you're going to find out it's not so easy, maybe even impossible. I am a short stop. In your quest to join the big boy club you better believe I will stop you short. If I can't belong, then nobody does.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 20, 2021, 8:35:34 AM9/20/21
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On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:46:30 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Of course I want to be in the big boys club but I wont grovel to get in.
> You are probably fibbing because you think it's what I want to hear. But I was just testing you. I know you don't care about being in the big boy's club, and neither do I. Now maybe you're testing me. Maybe your response was not the full truth on purpose, just to see what I might say in return. I don't know. I don't know everything. But I hope to God you're just kidding. Anybody wanting into the big boy's club is going to have a hard time getting into line because even though I am not myself a big boy, the big boys don't fuck with me. I am what is known in the world of competition as a 'short stop', someone who is not quite good enough to be a champion - but if you want to be one you're going to have to go through me - and you're going to find out it's not so easy, maybe even impossible. I am a short stop. In your quest to join the big boy club you better believe I will stop you short. If I can't belong, then nobody does.


I think it is normal to want to be left alone. Not to join groups willy nilly. Strivers are the ones running around wanting to be in charge. I am not and will not be a striver. I been striving for it a long time.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 20, 2021, 11:29:11 PM9/20/21
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> I think it is normal to want to be left alone. Not to join groups willy nilly. Strivers are the ones running around wanting to be in charge. I am not and will not be a striver. I been striving for it a long time.


Yes, we are striving for the right to not have to strive any more. Like the celebs who appear on talk shows and talk about how much they love what they do, especially the comics. "Man, COVID tore us apart. I really missed that audience. Zoom was nice but it's not the same. Give me that stage any time."

But they are on the talk show to promote their latest film along with a possible TV show in the making. The host hears him say he loves doing standup, town to town, stage to stage - being there, doing it, living it, sucking it up. "Do you really love it that much?", he asks the comic.

"Sure do. No matter what happens with my career - my writing, my producing, my acting, hopefully one day my directing, everything I put into making me what I am today - no matter how far I go in any one direction I will never stray too far from the stage. I live to perform for the people. And they need us now more than ever in these unprecedented times of uncertainty."

"Come on now", says the host, "you are among friends here. Tell the truth. You can, you know?"

"Really?", says the comic. "You mean they won't hold it against me if I tell the truth?"

"No, they won't", says the host.

"OK then", says the comic, "I'll tell you the truth. I hope I can land my own TV show or make a really big hit movie so I don't ever have to see a stage ever again." As the audience stands up and applauds the performer's refreshing candor.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 22, 2021, 12:20:49 AM9/22/21
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I would think doing a long running Broadway show would get to be a drag. But as long as it is a steady paycheck I guess it is ok.

Thomas Joseph

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> I would think doing a long running Broadway show would get to be a drag. But as long as it is a steady paycheck I guess it is ok.

Pun intended? Drag? I mean Broadway is kind of gay isn't it. "The Theater." Then they filtered down into Hollywood and jumped off the screen and turned the audience gay too. It's a trap. They have agents in the field pretending to be straight to get in with straight people so they can turn them gay over time. It almost happened to me. It did happen to me. But I found a way out of it, I told you about weaning off sucking cocks a long time ago. Anyway, truthfully, I suppose I don't included every last thing on earth in my rule that even the cushiest looking jobs suck because jobs suck period. I suppose there are some people who are doing exactly what they have always wanted to do and they love it. But they are rare. And insane.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 23, 2021, 9:38:05 AM9/23/21
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On Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I would think doing a long running Broadway show would get to be a drag. But as long as it is a steady paycheck I guess it is ok.
> Pun intended? Drag? I mean Broadway is kind of gay isn't it. "The Theater." Then they filtered down into Hollywood and jumped off the screen and turned the audience gay too. It's a trap. They have agents in the field pretending to be straight to get in with straight people so they can turn them gay over time. It almost happened to me. It did happen to me. But I found a way out of it, I told you about weaning off sucking cocks a long time ago. Anyway, truthfully, I suppose I don't included every last thing on earth in my rule that even the cushiest looking jobs suck because jobs suck period. I suppose there are some people who are doing exactly what they have always wanted to do and they love it. But they are rare. And insane.


I was into theater as a teen. Did High school plays. But later I got tired of it. The theater is too gay. I perfer performing live.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 24, 2021, 12:38:19 AM9/24/21
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> I was into theater as a teen. Did High school plays. But later I got tired of it. The theater is too gay. I perfer performing live.

Yeah, I know you were into taking acting classes, etc. I probably would have done the same if they'd had them at my school. Then again, maybe not. I didn't like school period, so the chances of me joining in any part of it would be remote.

I am good live performer. And I say that modestly. But I like the concept of moving pictures more than anything, even more than writing. It is writing. I thought about it last night watching Dragnet, the dialogue, the quick cuts, lots of good editing. They say a picture is worth a thousand words. If it's true, and I don't doubt it, than a really well made motion picture story has to be better than a book. I have never held a motion camera in my life but I have always known I would be a spectacular director, and an even more spectacular director supervisor. I wouldn't actually direct. I would tell the director what I want. If I have to go through 100 directors to finish the project I'm going to do it. Why? Because I'm the best who ever lived. Not saying you're not great. I'm not competing. I can't help it, I just know I should be making motion picture stories. But I don't have the equipment and I don't want into show biz as it stands today because frankly it is beneath me.

What a whory business it is. A guy makes a commercial for some product he would not only never use, it's something he literally despises. But he is elated. He managed to land a gig. I understand, he's excited, he sees the start of a big career. For a while he's all blown up, feeling really good about things. The commercial comes on no matter where he is he goes, "Shhhhh, there I am - see, there I am." He is enthralled and is considered some kind of success because he managed to land a commercial. I understand, he feels great about it. But that commercial turns out to be the highlight of his acting careers. He manages to do a few other things, extra work, etc, but in the end he's just a worker for life - and later looking back he wonders if things maybe would have turned out better if he had not allowed himself to get sucked in by that God damn commercial.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 25, 2021, 12:36:45 PM9/25/21
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A good director never looks through the camera. That is the cameramans job.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 25, 2021, 5:27:33 PM9/25/21
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> A good director never looks through the camera. That is the cameramans job.

I've seen a lot of big productions in Hollywood, almost every day. But I don't have much knowledge of how they operate. On the one hand I like the specialization team-work aspect of film making, on the other I like the Cinema Czar approach, one guy running the whole show, especially when it comes to ultra cheap horror films and stuff like that. Overall I don't like the Czarist approach unless the movie is cheaply made by people who aren't trying to produce art. I remember liking "Night of the Living Dead" a year or so after it came out. I never heard of it. I went to a drive-in movie with my ex girlfriend and was all over her during the first of 3 films, both Dracula movies, not my type. Then "Night of the Living Dead" started up and I thought at first it would be boring too but it got good. I think some of the cheaply made films that endure were mistakes that made it big. The reason I say that is because after "Night" became a favorite with people they brought Romero to Hollywood and backed him financially in larger productions which, in my opinion, were mostly all garbage.

Turd in a tuxedo

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 27, 2021, 10:13:04 AM9/27/21
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Probably when he got to Hollywood he had to conform and he was not good at it. I remember hearing he was from advertising.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 27, 2021, 6:21:53 PM9/27/21
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> Probably when he got to Hollywood he had to conform and he was not good at it. I remember hearing he was from advertising.


I believe what you heard, but that's no excuse for selling out. Ok, let's be fair. Somebody gets an offer from Hollywood, usually they're going to take it. I don't blame them. It is also possible the later Romero films I'm blasting were really ok and I just didn't notice it. It is also possible his later films did suck. If they did I'm sure he knew it. So one way or the other he's guilty. If he did the films knowing they sucked he is guilty of fraud and collusion. If he did films and did not know they sucked he is guilty of being an idiot.

The man is guilty. No really, in all honesty some of the later color movies made by Romero were not bad. But the one he's known the most for was a real cheapie and cannot be duplicated. It had it's boring moments but was overall fast moving, and I really liked the documentary approach they took out in the fields interviewing Commander Colin McCullen who was conducting ghoul extermination hunt downs in the area. That interview with McCullen where he is asked, "Are they slow moving, Chief", and McCullen says, "Yeah, they're all messed up. But they're nothing. They go down easy though. Beat 'em, burn 'em, shoot 'em in the head." Then the TV announcer comes on and says, "So the consensus theory is, kill the head and you kill the ghoul." Funny stuff.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 29, 2021, 9:46:12 AM9/29/21
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Always bad to have a winner on your first time out. Orson Welles did that with Citizen Kane. He could never top or meet it. This is why I hold back. If I was to come out with art it would be so massively great I would never best it.

Thomas Joseph

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Sep 29, 2021, 6:59:13 PM9/29/21
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> Always bad to have a winner on your first time out. Orson Welles did that with Citizen Kane. He could never top or meet it. This is why I hold back. If I was to come out with art it would be so massively great I would never best it.


I want to talk about Welles, not about your artistic merits. We can get to that later. When we have more time. Now it's all about Orson. I know you liked the guy. I did not. I think he was one of the original overactors - i.e., method scum. But at the same time I did not dislike Orson. Lots of these guys, they were not bad when they didn't act. But they wanted to be known as artists, so even if acting were not required they would feel obliged to lay it on thick. Also, even Orson's first time out winner Citizen Kane, although well done in some ways, is one of those films I dislike more every time I see it. Lots of needless accents and make up with Joseph Cotton playing his part at an older age and Paul Stewart going with some kind of foreign accent. Welles wore a lot of makeup too. These were stage creeps looking to make it in Hollywood. Then later Orson really got fame for himself with the hokey "Invasion of the World", or whatever it was, the radio show that supposedly sent thousands of people into a panic. I do not believe it really happened. Not on that level anyway. A great publicity gag. Later on TV shows I could see Welles for what he really was, a lost and lonely insecure man who could have used my friendship but didn't even know I existed. The son of a bitch.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Sep 30, 2021, 3:23:23 PM9/30/21
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On Wednesday, September 29, 2021 at 6:59:13 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Always bad to have a winner on your first time out. Orson Welles did that with Citizen Kane. He could never top or meet it. This is why I hold back. If I was to come out with art it would be so massively great I would never best it.
> I want to talk about Welles, not about your artistic merits. We can get to that later. When we have more time. Now it's all about Orson. I know you liked the guy. I did not. I think he was one of the original overactors - i.e., method scum. But at the same time I did not dislike Orson. Lots of these guys, they were not bad when they didn't act. But they wanted to be known as artists, so even if acting were not required they would feel obliged to lay it on thick. Also, even Orson's first time out winner Citizen Kane, although well done in some ways, is one of those films I dislike more every time I see it. Lots of needless accents and make up with Joseph Cotton playing his part at an older age and Paul Stewart going with some kind of foreign accent. Welles wore a lot of makeup too. These were stage creeps looking to make it in Hollywood. Then later Orson really got fame for himself with the hokey "Invasion of the World", or whatever it was, the radio show that supposedly sent thousands of people into a panic. I do not believe it really happened. Not on that level anyway. A great publicity gag. Later on TV shows I could see Welles for what he really was, a lost and lonely insecure man who could have used my friendship but didn't even know I existed. The son of a bitch.


I find him entertaing. That is what is important. Dance for me.

Judith Latham

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Sep 30, 2021, 11:30:34 PM9/30/21
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Orson Welles was a very graceful and talented dancer in his younger
days. While a senior at School of the Art Institute of Chicago, Welles
was the chief of a group of transsexual dancers called "The Can-Can
Girls". He wanted so bad to return his life as a man, it finally caught
up to him the fact that was he was now a woman.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Oct 1, 2021, 2:27:23 PM10/1/21
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He was ahead of the times. Or was he? Hence the name ORson.

Judith Latham

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Oct 1, 2021, 11:25:51 PM10/1/21
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I don't know if you have ever noticed, but you'll never find a scene in
any of his movies with a dick pic. He (she) hid it well.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Oct 2, 2021, 8:49:23 PM10/2/21
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He of5en had his dick in the pics. Very subtle. A reflection in a window. On the side of a passing bus. You must absorb all of the scene.

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 3, 2021, 9:52:46 PM10/3/21
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> I find him entertaing. That is what is important. Dance for me.

I have nothing against the guy, just don't like when he overacts which is most of the time, doing accents and so forth. Also, his TV appearances were hokey, talking about mysticism and magic and other boring stuff. While I myself do not find Mr. Welles highly entertaining I am able to understand why others do. So there is no argument. Now, do I really mean that or am I just saying it to avoid an argument, afraid that any disagreement might mar our newsgroup relationship and fragment our lives to the point of all out one on one warfare.

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 3, 2021, 9:57:56 PM10/3/21
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> He of5en had his dick in the pics. Very subtle. A reflection in a window. On the side of a passing bus. You must absorb all of the scene.

Yes, all the Hollywood insiders know about Orson's subtle tricks, like Hitchcock appearing for only a moment in films in directed. I once watched a full Orson movie and got all kinds of signs from him. Really powerful stuff. Deep. Profound. Moving. But if you think that's something, try watching one of his films backwards a few times and you'll see some shit you may not be ready for. Some guys drop acid before doing the backwards thing with Orson, but I recommend being completely sober to absorb it in full.

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Oct 5, 2021, 7:43:06 PM10/5/21
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I watched the Wizard of Oz backwards. Well not the movie just the TV was upside down.

Judith Latham

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Oct 5, 2021, 11:25:27 PM10/5/21
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The most evil child's movie ever made. A spoiled brat runs away from
home. kills a witch who had done her no harm in a place called Munchkin
Land, which in actuality is a ghetto for midgets. She then steals her
ruby slippers from her sister (the rightful owner) and then kills the
sister when she tries to get her property back. Along the way, she drags
three nitwits with her for no good reason, sells them a bill of goods
and nearly has them killed

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 6, 2021, 8:40:12 PM10/6/21
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Ollie wrote:
Judith wrote:

> I watched the Wizard of Oz backwards. Well not the movie just the TV was upside down.

> The most evil child's movie ever made. A spoiled brat runs away from
home, kills a witch who had done her no harm in a place called Munchkin
Land, which in actuality is a ghetto for midgets. She then steals her
ruby slippers from her sister (the rightful owner) and then kills the
sister when she tries to get her property back. Along the way, she drags
three nitwits with her for no good reason, sells them a bill of goods
and nearly has them killed

Ollie: Either way would be a chore. I never saw the movie as a kid. I know you're probably heard the same thing from other people, maybe even yourself, but the first time I saw that movie I thought it was in black and white because I never had a color TV till I was 50. Somebody was telling me about how Dorothy's dream was in color and everything else was in black and white, and I didn't know what they were talking about. I did not care for the movie. I do not dislike it, it's just not one of my faves. Presented as a musical, but not enough slow ballads tunes for me. The fast-paced Munchin music got on my nerves.

Judith: "Three nitwits", lol. But in reality were they anymore nitwit oriented than you and others who watched the film and probably loved it, even as an adult. Yeah, I never could get into the story as a movie. The times I watched it I wanted more music. Or keep the music out of it entirely. Anyway, there's plenty of movies on tap, lots of old stuff not yet seen, so when it comes to film I feel no urgency at all to watch this or that now before it self destructs Mission Impossible style.

Judith Latham

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Oct 6, 2021, 9:00:21 PM10/6/21
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One movie I watched as a kid and later as an adult is 'March of the
Wooden Soldiers". As I kid, I rooted for the soldiers. As I got older I
realized I wanted the bogey men. They should have had them rape the
women and children and pillage that place. It would make for far better
entertainment.



OllieN...@aol.com

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Oct 6, 2021, 11:50:16 PM10/6/21
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I do not watch movies I absorbbbb them.

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 7, 2021, 2:13:22 AM10/7/21
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> One movie I watched as a kid and later as an adult is 'March of the
> Wooden Soldiers". As I kid, I rooted for the soldiers. As I got older I
> realized I wanted the bogey men. They should have had them rape the
> women and children and pillage that place. It would make for far better
> entertainment.

Never saw it. On the title alone I'm not sure I would have turned to it even as a kid. Some of those words turn me off on their own. Put them together in the same sentence and it's like declaring war. "March" is bad enough, but then adding "soldiers" to it? That's too much. I never saw it. Maybe it was good in some ways. But since I didn't see it I can't say it was good. I can however say it was bad. Now you may ask, how can you say it was bad if you didn't see it? My response to that question is based strictly on mathematics. Most stuff sucks, so it's a safe bet to assume "the march of the wooden soldiers" wouldn't be no different.

Onward, March!

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 7, 2021, 2:16:41 AM10/7/21
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> I do not watch movies I absorbbbb them.

I watch my movies on DVD. I really get into them. I do them justice. The average movie is two hours long. I only watch a minute at a time. But I don't just watch that one minute segment once, I watch it for two straight hours, over and over again, abbbbbzzzzzorbing it from all angles, getting to know every ounce of every thing the artists involved in its making poured into the project. The next day I watch the second minute. It takes me on average 120 days to watch a movie. But when I'm done I can tell you everything about it. Man I'm telling you, I go deep into shit. You know, profound.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Oct 7, 2021, 1:21:05 PM10/7/21
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On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 2:16:41 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I do not watch movies I absorbbbb them.
> I watch my movies on DVD. I really get into them. I do them justice. The average movie is two hours long. I only watch a minute at a time. But I don't just watch that one minute segment once, I watch it for two straight hours, over and over again, abbbbbzzzzzorbing it from all angles, getting to know every ounce of every thing the artists involved in its making poured into the project. The next day I watch the second minute. It takes me on average 120 days to watch a movie. But when I'm done I can tell you everything about it. Man I'm telling you, I go deep into shit. You know, profound.


A true aficionado. Whatever that is.

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 7, 2021, 3:50:41 PM10/7/21
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> A true aficionado. Whatever that is.


Really deep into it, one minute at a time - over and over again, that same minute for one full day. Then the next day minute number two. Every nuance is captured and stored in his brain. Later, watching the films with friends he's up off the couch yelling stuff like, "Keep your eyes on his face on this one, the expression - right here when he says, "You're going to die tonight." Keep your eyes on his face. Watch his mouth. See the upward tilt? Not a sneer, not a laugh, a look that is hard to define - very unique - one of the greatest early method actors of our time. Oh wait, here comes another scene you need to watch closely. Right here, right here - here it comes", as he irritatingly narrates the film to his own captive audience. He knows these films inside out. They are t-e-a-r-i-n-g his brain apart.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Oct 9, 2021, 2:04:05 PM10/9/21
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On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 3:50:41 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > A true aficionado. Whatever that is.
> Really deep into it, one minute at a time - over and over again, that same minute for one full day. Then the next day minute number two. Every nuance is captured and stored in his brain. Later, watching the films with friends he's up off the couch yelling stuff like, "Keep your eyes on his face on this one, the expression - right here when he says, "You're going to die tonight." Keep your eyes on his face. Watch his mouth. See the upward tilt? Not a sneer, not a laugh, a look that is hard to define - very unique - one of the greatest early method actors of our time. Oh wait, here comes another scene you need to watch closely. Right here, right here - here it comes", as he irritatingly narrates the film to his own captive audience. He knows these films inside out. They are t-e-a-r-i-n-g his brain apart.


A good movie is like a dream.. no like a fuck... no a good fuck is a dream... Fuck movies....

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 9, 2021, 7:40:45 PM10/9/21
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> A good movie is like a dream.. no like a fuck... no a good fuck is a dream... Fuck movies....

I like a good movie but I would never go out of my way ever again to see one. Even watching a full one on TV is a chore, although some can lure me in. I like turning on the TV and not knowing what's on. I'll surf the network stations in prime time and it's one cop show after another with the same type of really stupid privileged acting school graduates playing most of the roles. Doesn't have to be just city cops, or rural cops - I'm talking about the FBI, any kind of undercover military bullshit - to me that's a cop show too. Then they have the ones I really don't like - 20-20 and Dateline where old murders are drudged up - like the news in ultra slow motion. An occasional game show is a relief from that crap, which I never watch anyway. Right now I'm a MeTv guy. Who are you with and do you want to fight about it?

OllieN...@aol.com

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Oct 12, 2021, 1:09:41 PM10/12/21
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On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:40:45 PM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > A good movie is like a dream.. no like a fuck... no a good fuck is a dream... Fuck movies....
> I like a good movie but I would never go out of my way ever again to see one. Even watching a full one on TV is a chore, although some can lure me in. I like turning on the TV and not knowing what's on. I'll surf the network stations in prime time and it's one cop show after another with the same type of really stupid privileged acting school graduates playing most of the roles. Doesn't have to be just city cops, or rural cops - I'm talking about the FBI, any kind of undercover military bullshit - to me that's a cop show too. Then they have the ones I really don't like - 20-20 and Dateline where old murders are drudged up - like the news in ultra slow motion. An occasional game show is a relief from that crap, which I never watch anyway. Right now I'm a MeTv guy. Who are you with and do you want to fight about it?


I been watching old westerns on Youtube. Randolph Scott made a shitload.

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 13, 2021, 1:57:34 AM10/13/21
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> I been watching old westerns on Youtube. Randolph Scott made a shitload.

He sure did. When I was young I didn't care for Scott. But when I got older - I mean beyond my 30s, I like him. He stuck to what he did best. Or maybe he was on the verge of insanity, screaming, "I need to spread my wing, develop my chops - sink my meat into something new and challenging", but the studio execs kept him pinned down to the western roles. So let's not be too hasty in anointed Scott the greatest honest western actor of that time, instead lets give credit where it's due - to the higher ups in the industry who knew where Scott belonged and kept him there. Then again, I'm not taking anything away from Randy. That's what his close friends called him, Randy. I'm telling you Ollie, the inside info never stops flowing.

OllieN...@aol.com

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Oct 13, 2021, 9:18:51 PM10/13/21
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On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 1:57:34 AM UTC-4, jazee...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I been watching old westerns on Youtube. Randolph Scott made a shitload.
> He sure did. When I was young I didn't care for Scott. But when I got older - I mean beyond my 30s, I like him. He stuck to what he did best. Or maybe he was on the verge of insanity, screaming, "I need to spread my wing, develop my chops - sink my meat into something new and challenging", but the studio execs kept him pinned down to the western roles. So let's not be too hasty in anointed Scott the greatest honest western actor of that time, instead lets give credit where it's due - to the higher ups in the industry who knew where Scott belonged and kept him there. Then again, I'm not taking anything away from Randy. That's what his close friends called him, Randy. I'm telling you Ollie, the inside info never stops flowing.


He liked horses. I mean really 'liked' as in fucking the female ones with what many said a cock that was bigger than a horses.

Thomas Joseph

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Oct 14, 2021, 8:22:12 PM10/14/21
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> He liked horses. I mean really 'liked' as in fucking the female ones with what many said a cock that was bigger than a horses.


If he did as you say then without a doubt he did have a horse-sized cock, otherwise any female horse would reject him with a healthy kick to the face. I knew a few horse lovers in my time - in Hollywood naturally - and many gave their fantasy actual tries, some resulting in facial injury, some so bad it ruined the possible leading man careers of many of them. They were ready to fuck the female horse but the female horse was not ready for them because they're cocks did not measure up. With a strong kick to the thin-dicked human wannabe fucker's face her legs deliver the message, "Don't horse around with me, big boy. Come back and try again sometime. But if you don't measure up, your face will know the truth."
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