Has there ever been a fat serial killer?

[Gus]

Or with high bp or cholesterol? They all seem to be good shape. What
were the members of the Manson's family's resting heart? Bmi's?

Btw, these assholes going into Chipolte's with assault rifles to exert
their rights look like fat loser assholes that instead of playing
video games all day, play with their guns all day... Looking forward
to the day when a father with kids sees one come in to a restaurant
and jumps on one thinking they are a bad guy about to shoot his kids,
takes the dumbfuck's rifle and shoots them 35 times...

And yells out while standing over him: Stand your ground
motherfucker!

[Tommy Joe]

Gus wrote:


> Or with high bp or cholesterol? They all seem to be good shape. What were the members of the Manson's family's resting heart? Bmi's?

Funny. I guess they live a long time because each time they kill they get a little more stress out of their system. Problem is, once you start you've got to continue, it's habit forming. Now Charlie is in prison, can't kill or order any killings either, and I'm thinking that's it for him, he's dead inside - but no, he keeps chugging along. I guess a few good kills when you're young might invigorate the body and spirit so much that the effects last for many decades.

But I'd like to see a report on the life expectancy of the average mass murderer, not counting being executed or murdered in jail. I don't know if they live longer or not.

As for an overweight mass murderer, there is going to be one soon. My plan of action is to make you my first victim and to eat your body over a period of only one week, basically gaining whatever you weight minus a week's worth of turds. At my new weight, yours plus mine combined, I will launch my attack on others. I will become fat by chomping your body down so fast I can't shit it out fast enough to lose the weight.

And then, everybody dies

TJ

[Daisy]

On Sunday, June 8, 2014 8:37:47 PM UTC-7, Gus wrote:
> Or with high bp or cholesterol?

Of course! The Greatest and Most Rotund, Richard Kuklinski was voted Best Serial Killer 10 years in a row.

Daisy

[Gus]

Thx!

21 stone (165 kg) and 6'5". Impressive. I wonder how big his balls
were...

In one interview, Kuklinski claimed that he would never kill a child
and "most likely wouldn't kill a woman". However, according to one of
his daughters he once told her that he would have to kill her and her
two siblings should he happen to beat her mother to death in a fit of
rage.[24] At the same time, his wife Barbara has stated that he never
actually did hurt the children.[25] However, she says that he
frequently beat her up, breaking her nose several times.[26] According
to the New York Times, Kuklinski tried to smother her with a pillow,
pointed a gun at her and tried to run her over with a car.[2]

In a 1991 interview, Kuklinski recalled one of the few murders he
later regretted committing:

It was a man and he was begging, and pleading, and praying, I
guess. And he was, 'Please, God, no', all over the place. So I told
him he could have a half an hour to pray to God and if God could come
down and change the circumstances, he'd have that time. But God never
showed up and he never changed the circumstances and that was that. It
wasn't too nice. That's one thing, I shouldn't have done that one. I
shouldn't have done it that way.[15]

[Tommy Joe]

Daisy wrote:

> Of course! The Greatest and Most Rotund, Richard Kuklinski was voted Best Serial Killer 10 years in a row.

I'm telling you this for the last time, and I hope you're paying attention. Kuklinski was not a mass murderer. He was an assassin. He was a hired killer.

Now, in the process of doing his work, I'm not saying there weren't moments he could have enjoyed and might have loved doing even without getting paid.

You are cheating when you include Kuklinski on any mass murderer list. He is still alive and full of boast, much of which cannot be verified. They have enough on him to cage him up for life. He doesn't like it. Who would? So when he has a chance for company, an interview, some kind of contact with the outside world - of course he's going to jump at it. Who wouldn't?

He wants the interviews to never end. But unless his stories become progressively gorier and shocking, that is exactly what will happen - they will abandon him for the new star of the cell block. Kuklinski is like those guys who are found guilty of murder and sentenced to die, and the only way they can keep from dying is to confess to more murders, possibly some that never happened - anything to entertain and titillate and keep himself in the lime light long enough to postpone the inevitable darkness.

TJ

[Gus]

"Tommy Joe" <jo...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

You are cheating when you include Kuklinski on any mass murderer list.
He is still alive and full of boast, much of which cannot be verified.

---

Umm, he died March 5, 2006... Are posting from the year 2006?
Sometimes, it seems so. Perhaps even earlier.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/09/nyregion/09kuklinski.html?_r=0

Published: March 9, 2006
Richard Kuklinski, whose lust for publicity nearly matched the blood
lust he displayed in claiming to have killed more than 100 people as a
Mafia hit man, died on Sunday in the prison wing of St. Francis Hospital
in Trenton. He was 70.

Mr. Kuklinski promoted his own notoriety by appearing in two HBO
documentaries as well as meeting with writers, psychiatrists and
criminologists. He became known as the Iceman because he sometimes froze
corpses to disguise the time of death.

Richard Kuklinski was born on April 11, 1935, in Jersey City. He killed
neighborhood cats as a youth and said he committed his first murder at
14, after which, he said, he felt "empowered." He was an altar boy and
dropped out of school in eighth grade.

His crime career began after he took a job at a film lab and sold
pornographic movies to the Gambinos. He longed to translate his love of
killing into a living, he said, but Mafia kingpins, suspicious of his
zeal, first limited him to lesser crimes.

He married his wife, Barbara, in 1961. They lived a suburban, relatively
affluent life of backyard barbecuing in Dumont, N.J. In the second
documentary, Mrs. Kuklinski called them "the all-American family."

The Bruno book quoted her as disclosing that Mr. Kuklinski tried to
smother her with a pillow, pointed a gun at her, tried to run her over
with a car and three times hit her so hard that he broke her nose.

In a 1992 column in The Washington Post about the first documentary, Tom
Shales called Mr. Kuklinski "the ultimate misanthrope, unapologetic and
irredeemable," then mentioned a promise in the prologue to penetrate his
mind.

"After watching, you may feel some minds are better left unpenetrated,"
Mr. Shales wrote.

[Tommy Joe]

Gus wrote:
Tommy Joe wrote

> You are cheating when you include Kuklinski on any mass murderer list. He is still alive and full of boast, much of which cannot be verified.

> Umm, he died March 5, 2006. Are posting from the year 2006?

>
> Sometimes, it seems so. Perhaps even earlier.

Sometimes people use misspelled words by other people as an excuse to get off topic. You are pulling a similar stunt. Ok, granted, the guy is dead. I did not know this as I was never a big Kuklinski guy. He was alive when his interviews were conducted, and those interviews were spread out over a decent stretch of time. So I didn't know the guy was dead, that should have no bearing on what I garnered from his interviews, that he was not in my opinion a true mass murderer, he was a hitman. A grammar purist could say I'm wrong, that he killed a mass of people in his time, and that alone qualifies him for MMS (mass murder status). But a murder purist would argue not words but truth, and the truth is that Kuklinski does not qualify as a mass murderer in the traditional sense, and should therefore not be on the list.

TJ

From Richard Speck to Manson
From Dahmer to the nightstalking Ramirez
When we come to your town
You'll be wise to respect and to fear us

TJ

[Daisy]

Do you spend a good deal of time wondering what the balls of other men look like? Just curious. Kuklinski is one of my favorite serial killers. Glad you like him too!

Daisy

[Daisy]

There's nothing like a well written obituary. Hat's off to my colleague!

Daisy

[Daisy]

TJ, you're just plain selfish. Kuklinski rules the roost. Two of your guys can't even top Kuk. Too bad he's no longer alive, or I'd demand a showdown. Kuk Rules even in death. And I know you're a quality over quantity type of man, so I'm surprised that you gave Kuk the short end. You seem very jealous. Kuk provided quality and quantity kills; his overall killingess is through the roof. Kuklinski is number 1 TJ. Facts are facts...

Daisy

[Gus]

no, somethings are better left unseen

[Tommy Joe]

Daisy wrote:

> TJ, you're just plain selfish. Kuklinski rules the roost. Two of your guys can't even top Kuk. Too bad he's no longer alive, or I'd demand a showdown. Kuk Rules even in death. And I know you're a quality over quantity type of man, so I'm surprised that you gave Kuk the short end. You seem very jealous. Kuk provided quality and quantity kills; his overall killingess is through the roof. Kuklinski is number 1 TJ. Facts are facts...

Hey, fuck you. Call me anything you want, but never selfish. There are plenty of killers you like that I like too. We can't agree on everything. So now I'm greedy because I don't share your enthusiasm for Da Kuke? That is wrong.

You and Gus both resort to calling me jealous any time I express dislike or insufficient liking for one of your favorites. That is selfish. You are selfish, not me. You and Gus both are selfish.

As for chilling, a real nut case, no phony, not some wannabe looking for attention - try Joseph Kallinger on for size. I call him Little Jo Jo Kallinger, and when I say it I do so in a childlike voice, like when you're calling a cat or dog to come to you.

I saw a show years ago that was made up of various interviews of a variety of jailed mass murderers from around the country.

All of them were talking bullshit, it was obvious. They either denied the killings or they played them up big time, even confessing to new murders in the hopes of maybe getting another trial - anything to get them out of the cell.

Well, when they got to Kallinger (his lips looked dried and cracked, foam at the sides of his mouth - meds no doubt), they asked him about getting out, if he thought it could happen one day. In the most serious way he said, "Oh God, I hope not." This is a guy who knew he was nuts and didn't like it. He enjoyed the killings obviously, or he wouldn't have done them - but he knew he was demonic and was not ashamed to admit it.

The book about Little Jo Jo and his killer son was called, "The Shoemaker". A woman psychiatrist wrote it. She welled too much on that side of it, I thought - too cut and dried with the psychoanalysis - but she wrote it well and really brought out the chills describing the killings.

I think the glue they used in the shoe shop in which Little Jo Jo grew up may have contributed to his dream-like lunacy. I was amazed she never brought that up, or if she did, didn't go deeper into it as a possibility. Not saying sniffing glue makes a person violent - only that it puts them in a very wild dream state, which is something I know a little about because I sniffed glue every day for about a year when I was 20. Wild stuff, would not recommend. Who knows, maybe the reason I never got lung cancer after all the cigarets I smoked was the glue sealing my lungs up and protecting them from the smoke.

TJ

[Tommy Joe]

> "After watching, you may feel some minds are better left unpenetrated, Mr. Shales wrote.

Is this true of vaginas and anuses?



I guess you could say it was true for Daniel Sterling. He might have been better off not penetrating the hole of the bitch who ratted him out on tape.

Another one I hate is, "There's no such thing as bad pussy." Bullshit, there is plenty of bad pussy. I've been with some good lookers who wanted me and their holes were just big sloppy caves that just sort of flopped around even with a stiff dick in them - a dick that did not stay stiff for long as the act of fucking a disgusting hole takes it's toll after a time and withers the dick of even the most manly of men. Well, maybe not the most manly. The most manly men will fuck anything, caveman style - male, female, animal, anything, just another hole. I am not man enough for that. Anyway, as for Da Kuke's mind, I'm sure he had one, and I'm sure he used it mainly to get attention for the main purpose of defraying from that mind the incredible burden of loneliness brought on by being cage up in prison. Now, if Da Kuke had made these confession as he was still a free man - still killing and reporting them as he goes along, recording them and sending them to media outlets all over the country - and the killings are verifiable because they start finding the bodies and Da Kuke is telling in his reports exactly how the victims died. If Da Kuke had done this I'd like him more. Even if some of his stories are entertaining - and they are - they lack the excitement that comes from real-time confessions or taunts to the cops and newspapers. I have nothing against Da Kuke, but am building nos shrines to his memory - he was good but nowhere near the best. He is 'Da Kuke", not Da King.

TJ

[Tommy Joe]

Gus wrote:

> Do you spend a good deal of time wondering what the balls of other men look like? Just curious.

I often wonder what the balls of other men look like. But I don't go out and kill them to find out. I became a doctor at a young age. I am a poet and artist at heart and could not handle the rigors the demanding medical profession, so I quit. But for a long time there I was holding the balls of other men in my hands every day - young men, institutionalized, some in their very early teens - and as I held them, sometimes I would fondle them with such trained delicacy in my touch that the dick resting atop the balls would move. That was my cue to move in closer with intensified fondling, casing the dick to become fully engorged and ready for play time.

After having fun I'd offer the youth a drink laced with knockout drops. After they'd go out I'd chain them to the slab and they were mine for the rest of their miserable lives. I've got 33 guys in my basement as we speak. Some were only 15 when first brought in but are in their 50s today. I no longer torture them and would really prefer to release them, but I know if I do they'll come back and kill me or go to the cops. It's a burden, but I'm dealing with it.

TJ