Chmura case: innocent little girl's story starting to fall apart
Charlie Jackson
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20010130/sp/fbn_chmura_assault_1.html
she says in the article she could not stand him from the 1st time she
babysat for Mark and his wife. How come she kept going back to babysit
then, if he had made those reportedly suggestive statements to her?
Because she wanted to do him, that's why. And she and her friends
didn't have anything to say about their prom bacchanal until her mammy
found out. Then, and only then, to take the heat off herself, she tried
to implicate the man she wanted to get so badly - by any means
necessary.
Throw her a dollar Mark, and tell her to call you when she gets old
enough to handle the heat.
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whatsoever for putting himself in the situation to begin with. For
encouraging (and most likely contributing) to underage girls consuming
alcohol and sitting in his boxers with them in a hot tub, with no other
adult supervision around. You reap what you sow and now he can suffer the
consequence of his actions. I'm not exactly sure what it is he is guilty
of, but he is guilty as hell for allowing the situation to begin with.
These kids also all need to be charged with underage drinking and suffer
their consequences.
"Charlie Jackson" <suna...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Thomas Steven Wright
> encouraging (and most likely contributing) to underage girls consuming
> alcohol and sitting in his boxers with them in a hot tub, with no other
> adult supervision around.
Well, I don't know that he "contributed" in the sense of supplying
anything. He wasn't there until after 3 in the morning, which would
generally disallow any alcohol purchase and delivery.
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alcohol in or buy it. That isn't even the point. At the very least, he saw
them drinking, he encouraged them to continue drinking, he played drinking
games with them. The man is a worm and deserves life as he has known it
destroyed. Unfortunately, his family and friends have had to gone through
all this. He should lose them too.
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witness to such a party, but to engage in the same activities,
condone, and support it. Come on, there are pictures of girls sitting
on his lap. What's with that? Furthermore, what the hell was he doing
in a hot tub with drunken underage girls. I say he deserves to be
convicted for supporting, condoning and participating in teenage
nonsense. I can understand a teenager doing it. I can appreciate
college kids doing it. What I can't fathom is a grown man, with wife
and kid to do such an irresponsible and unforgivable thing. To be that
disrespectful of those around him, and to engage in behavior that
would only hurt the ones he supposedly loves.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 08:05:07 -0500, "just me :\)" <tay...@execpc.com>
wrote:
Charlie Jackson
Letting them stay out at a party til 3AM? Prom night? A lot of those
parents must have known what was going on. Or they found out, after the
school took administrative action on those children found to have
violated the student's code of conduct that night.
Charlie Jackson
the
> alcohol in or buy it. That isn't even the point. At the very least, he
saw
> them drinking, he encouraged them to continue drinking, he played
drinking
> games with them. The man is a worm and deserves life as he has known
it
> destroyed. Unfortunately, his family and friends have had to gone
through
> all this. He should lose them too.
I am sure everyone knew what was going on. He didn't supply the
refreshments - they were there already. I think he was chaperoning, the
girl lured him into the bathroom and then her friend brought the rest of
them down there to "discover" Mark with Allison. I think it has been
said many times during the trial they were clothed when found. So much
for penetration.
>
> "Thomas Steven Wright" <de...@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
> news:9592r7$7p9$1...@uwm.edu...
> > > whatsoever for putting himself in the situation to begin with. For
> > > encouraging (and most likely contributing) to underage girls
consuming
> > > alcohol and sitting in his boxers with them in a hot tub, with no
other
> > > adult supervision around.
> >
> >
> > Well, I don't know that he "contributed" in the sense of supplying
> > anything. He wasn't there until after 3 in the morning, which would
> > generally disallow any alcohol purchase and delivery.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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his underwear in a hot tub with minors. No matter how hard you try, you
aren't going to make him into an innocent bystander. And if you really
believe he was, I wish you much luck in life, because you will need it.
"Charlie Jackson" <suna...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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actions or behavior. Forget the rape charges, he still deserves to be in
the position he is in for his other behavior. Any responsible adult with an
ounce of brains and a family at home would of not been in this position. Go
ahead, defend him. Poor innocent mark, taken advantage of by a group of
slutty bitches. Yeah right.
"Debi" <a...@a.com> wrote in message
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> "just me :\)" <tay...@execpc.com> wrote in
> <3a7817bf$0$46002$272e...@news.execpc.com>:
>
> >Contributing can be just giving drinks, doesn't mean he had to bring the
> >alcohol in or buy it. That isn't even the point. At the very least, he
> >saw them drinking, he encouraged them to continue drinking, he played
> >drinking games with them. The man is a worm and deserves life as he has
> >known it destroyed. Unfortunately, his family and friends have had to
> >gone through all this. He should lose them too.
>
> That's a bit over the top. Everyone in the trial is suffering for
Chmura's
> lack of common sense. I however don't see Allison as being credible;
given
> her statements of hatred, inconsistent statments and a timeframe she
stands
> behind when it is certain that it all couldn't have happened that quick.
I
> believe the nurse or examiner at the hospital may have been over zealous
in
> her judgment of her "injuries".
>
> Here, we have a girl of 17, finishing up school and having to get ready to
> go into the world on her own. What better way to start her adult life
than
> to take the oppourtunity of a drunk rich guy who isn't thinking clearly
and
> make a go of scoring some easy cash based on an allegation she knows takes
> very little corroboration (except that of her friends - the S.B.'s). WHat
> a coincidence that Allison and her friends went to "Starbucks" after the
> alleged incident to "talk things over". Sounds like they got a story
> together right then - one girl probably suggesting a sting operation and a
> second girl going along with her own story of being "assaulted" so she
> could get a bit of cash too...
>
> Allison has already stated she intends to sue Chmura... and Sport's
> Illustrated to boot (why? not sure right now...) Her actions right after
> the alleged incident just doesn't pass the smell test - certainly not the
> actions *I* would have taken if something like that were to happen to me.
>
> Allison simply comes off as an unfortunate girl who knows how to work the
> system, isn't afraid of going through the process of a trial, knowing that
> even if Chmura isn't found guilty, she'll score gold in a civil trial that
> will almost certainly follow the criminal trial. Allison is the kind of
> girl that gives women a bad name and I certainly hope the jury sees it.
>
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"just me :\)" <tay...@execpc.com> wrote:
> Some Chaperone!!! Playing drinking games with underage drinkers,
sitting in
> his underwear in a hot tub with minors. No matter how hard you try,
you
> aren't going to make him into an innocent bystander. And if you
really
> believe he was, I wish you much luck in life, because you will need
it.
1st of all, he was not a chaperone. His friend asked him to come over
and spend a little time. He was invited into the party by the young
girls - I suppose one or more of them thought they would 'get lucky'
with the beefy man who put all the young male-childs at the party to
shame.
I wish allison a lot of luck. She will need it. Maybe she might think
about getting her name changed, so the inconsistencies in her story that
led to mark's acquital won't follow her forever.
And you would be lucky if you got a good lay for once Just Me.
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