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Re: The Georgia nigger indictment is the biggest threat to democracy yet
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Rob Bailey
Aug 19, 2023, 12:30:03 AM8/19/23
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pothead <pothe...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:t1nbn6$35a0e$5...@news.freedyn.de:
> Hand a nigger some authority and it goes directly to their head. This
> stupid cunt neglects her own city while pursuing a questionable
> political issue.
Trust in America’s institutions is at an all-time low. Partisan
hostility is high and growing. Fulton County District Attorney Fani
Willis’s political indictment of not just former President Donald Trump
but 18 other Republicans will further erode trust in government and fuel
hostility between parties.
According to a CBS poll taken after special counsel Jack Smith’s
indictment of Trump but before Willis’s, 56% of Republicans viewed the
indictments as “an attack on people like you” compared to 28% who said
the indictments were “upholding the rule of law.”
Considering that the Smith indictment charged just Trump with
conspiracy, but Willis charged Trump and 18 others, expect that 56% to
rise significantly.
Take, for example, Willis’s indictment of David Shafer, who, at the time
of the alleged crime, was head of the Georgia Republican Party. Trump
contested the results of the 2020 Georgia presidential election in
court, and by the day the Electoral College was due to meet to approve
slates of electors, litigation was ongoing.
Not wanting his party’s candidate to be without electors in the event
Trump won his lawsuits, Shafer did what the Democratic Party of Hawaii
did in 1960 when its presidential results were being litigated: He held
a meeting of Trump supporters at the state Capitol and elected an
alternative slate of electors.
Shafer told the press, “Had we not met today to cast our votes, the
president’s pending election contest would have been effectively mooted.
Our action today preserves his rights under Georgia law.”
Shafer did nothing but openly exercise his First Amendment rights, and
for that, he is being prosecuted as a member of a “criminal
organization.”
The same is true of Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, whose crimes
include texting one politician for the phone number of another and
attending various meetings with Trump supporters in the White House.
Where is the crime?
Real crimes may have been committed and are in the indictment, but they
are surely not those cited above. Willis identified a scheme in which
Trump lawyer Sidney Powell allegedly contracted for the unlawful breach
of Coffee County’s election equipment. That is a crime and should be
prosecuted as such. But you don’t need conspiracy law or the Racketeer
Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act to punish someone for hacking a
computer. That is overkill.
Much ink has been and will be spilled analyzing what this latest
indictment means for Trump’s chances of being convicted of a felony and
what effect a conviction might have on the 2024 election. Those are
important topics.
But eventually, Trump, too, shall pass. We will be left with precedents
set by previously unprecedented prosecutions of not just a former
president but of his supporters exercising their First Amendment rights.
These precedents will not be forgotten, partisans will respond in kind,
and our democracy will be weaker because of it.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/the-georgia-
indictment-is-the-biggest-threat-to-democracy-yet
news:t1nbn6$35a0e$5...@news.freedyn.de:
> Hand a nigger some authority and it goes directly to their head. This
> stupid cunt neglects her own city while pursuing a questionable
> political issue.
Trust in America’s institutions is at an all-time low. Partisan
hostility is high and growing. Fulton County District Attorney Fani
Willis’s political indictment of not just former President Donald Trump
but 18 other Republicans will further erode trust in government and fuel
hostility between parties.
According to a CBS poll taken after special counsel Jack Smith’s
indictment of Trump but before Willis’s, 56% of Republicans viewed the
indictments as “an attack on people like you” compared to 28% who said
the indictments were “upholding the rule of law.”
Considering that the Smith indictment charged just Trump with
conspiracy, but Willis charged Trump and 18 others, expect that 56% to
rise significantly.
Take, for example, Willis’s indictment of David Shafer, who, at the time
of the alleged crime, was head of the Georgia Republican Party. Trump
contested the results of the 2020 Georgia presidential election in
court, and by the day the Electoral College was due to meet to approve
slates of electors, litigation was ongoing.
Not wanting his party’s candidate to be without electors in the event
Trump won his lawsuits, Shafer did what the Democratic Party of Hawaii
did in 1960 when its presidential results were being litigated: He held
a meeting of Trump supporters at the state Capitol and elected an
alternative slate of electors.
Shafer told the press, “Had we not met today to cast our votes, the
president’s pending election contest would have been effectively mooted.
Our action today preserves his rights under Georgia law.”
Shafer did nothing but openly exercise his First Amendment rights, and
for that, he is being prosecuted as a member of a “criminal
organization.”
The same is true of Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, whose crimes
include texting one politician for the phone number of another and
attending various meetings with Trump supporters in the White House.
Where is the crime?
Real crimes may have been committed and are in the indictment, but they
are surely not those cited above. Willis identified a scheme in which
Trump lawyer Sidney Powell allegedly contracted for the unlawful breach
of Coffee County’s election equipment. That is a crime and should be
prosecuted as such. But you don’t need conspiracy law or the Racketeer
Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act to punish someone for hacking a
computer. That is overkill.
Much ink has been and will be spilled analyzing what this latest
indictment means for Trump’s chances of being convicted of a felony and
what effect a conviction might have on the 2024 election. Those are
important topics.
But eventually, Trump, too, shall pass. We will be left with precedents
set by previously unprecedented prosecutions of not just a former
president but of his supporters exercising their First Amendment rights.
These precedents will not be forgotten, partisans will respond in kind,
and our democracy will be weaker because of it.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/the-georgia-
indictment-is-the-biggest-threat-to-democracy-yet
Mike Colangelo
Aug 19, 2023, 1:25:57 AM8/19/23
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On 8/18/2023 9:24 PM, Rob Bailey wrote:
> pothead <pothe...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:t1nbn6$35a0e$5...@news.freedyn.de:
>
>> Hand a nigger some authority and it goes directly to their head. This
>> stupid cunt neglects her own city while pursuing a questionable
>> political issue.
>
> Trust in America’s institutions is at an all-time low.
*Only* because Republiscums/QAnon have baselessly attacked them.
> pothead <pothe...@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:t1nbn6$35a0e$5...@news.freedyn.de:
>
>> Hand a nigger some authority and it goes directly to their head. This
>> stupid cunt neglects her own city while pursuing a questionable
>> political issue.
>
> Trust in America’s institutions is at an all-time low.
> Partisan hostility is high and growing.
> Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’s political indictment
Republiscum/QAnon cronies committed real felony crimes in order *illegally* and
*unconstitutionally* to try to keep Trump in office after he lost a free, fair
and clean election. There is nothing whatever "political" about the charges.
Reem
Aug 19, 2023, 4:05:03 AM8/19/23
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In article <b790720716d8439c...@dizum.com>
> https://www.washington
Lie site flushed.
Subject fixed.
alt.fuck.maga
> https://www.washington
Lie site flushed.
Subject fixed.
alt.fuck.maga
Marlo Tiede
Aug 19, 2023, 5:23:18 AM8/19/23
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On 19 Aug 2023, Reem <reemnass...@gmail.com> posted some
news:2023081908015...@tidalhost.archiade.net:
> alt.fuck.me.stupid
Groups corrected.
news:2023081908015...@tidalhost.archiade.net:
Groups corrected.
Governor Swill
Aug 19, 2023, 9:16:06 AM8/19/23
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 06:24:59 +0200 (CEST), Rob Bailey <rba...@washpost.com> wrote:
>Trust in America’s institutions is at an all-time low. Partisan
>hostility is high and growing. Fulton County District Attorney Fani
>Willis’s political indictment of not just former President Donald Trump
>but 18 other Republicans will further erode trust in government and fuel
>hostility between parties.
LOCK HIM UP!
>Trust in America’s institutions is at an all-time low. Partisan
>hostility is high and growing. Fulton County District Attorney Fani
>Willis’s political indictment of not just former President Donald Trump
>but 18 other Republicans will further erode trust in government and fuel
>hostility between parties.
Swill
--
It wasn't rigged, he's just a loser.
GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!
Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!
Sláva Ukrajíni! Glory to Ukraine!
Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!
Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief.
<https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>
Governor Swill
Aug 19, 2023, 9:17:30 AM8/19/23
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Fuck the alt.right, neo Nazis and white nationalists.
NoBody
Aug 20, 2023, 9:56:07 AM8/20/23
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 09:17:26 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:01:54 -0400 (EDT), Reem <reemnass...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <b790720716d8439c...@dizum.com>
>>
>>> https://www.washington
>>
>>Lie site flushed.
>>
>>Subject fixed.
>>
>>alt.fuck.maga
>
>*applause*
>
>Fuck the alt.right, neo Nazis and white nationalists.
>
>Swill
Yup, in your mind anyone who disagrees with the looney left MUST be
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:01:54 -0400 (EDT), Reem <reemnass...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <b790720716d8439c...@dizum.com>
>>
>>> https://www.washington
>>
>>Lie site flushed.
>>
>>Subject fixed.
>>
>>alt.fuck.maga
>
>*applause*
>
>Fuck the alt.right, neo Nazis and white nationalists.
>
>Swill
one of the above.
<eyeroll>
Skeeter
Aug 20, 2023, 1:23:42 PM8/20/23
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Governor Swill
Aug 20, 2023, 3:56:56 PM8/20/23
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 10:23:39 -0700, Skeeter <Skeet...@proton.me> wrote:
>On 8/20/2023 6:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 09:17:26 -0400, Governor Swill
>> <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:01:54 -0400 (EDT), Reem <reemnass...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <b790720716d8439c...@dizum.com>
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.washington
>>>>
>>>> Lie site flushed.
>>>>
>>>> Subject fixed.
>>>>
>>>> alt.fuck.maga
>>>
>>> *applause*
>>>
>>> Fuck the alt.right, neo Nazis and white nationalists.
>On 8/20/2023 6:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 09:17:26 -0400, Governor Swill
>> <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:01:54 -0400 (EDT), Reem <reemnass...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <b790720716d8439c...@dizum.com>
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.washington
>>>>
>>>> Lie site flushed.
>>>>
>>>> Subject fixed.
>>>>
>>>> alt.fuck.maga
>>>
>>> *applause*
>>>
>>> Fuck the alt.right, neo Nazis and white nationalists.
>> Yup, in your mind anyone who disagrees with the looney left MUST be
>> one of the above.
A not surprising lie.
>> one of the above.
>Oh, the irony...
I've often voted for Republicans. Nixon in '72, Reagan in '80 and '84. Bush in '88.
Incumbents from my state. Giuliani and Huntsman. I only voted against Romney because
Obama was his competition and I liked a lot of what Obama did.
Swill
--
Trump is a loser.
In 2016, the GOP lost two Senate and six House seats.
In 2018, the GOP lost 41 House seats and control.
In 2020, the GOP lost the White House and the Senate.
In 2022, a year of rampant inflation, exploding gas prices
and record low popularity ratings for the opposition in
the White House.the GOP lost another Senate seat and only
gained back 9 House seats.
Almost all of Trump's endorsees lost.
2021-2022 They lost most of their Special Elections since Jan 06
2023 They've lost every Special Election since Roe was overturned.
Trump's favorable is 16 points less than his unfavorable.
Do you still think Trump is anything but a loser?
NoBody
Aug 21, 2023, 6:50:08 AM8/21/23
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 15:56:52 -0400, Governor Swill
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 10:23:39 -0700, Skeeter <Skeet...@proton.me> wrote:
>
>>On 8/20/2023 6:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 09:17:26 -0400, Governor Swill
>>> <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:01:54 -0400 (EDT), Reem <reemnass...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <b790720716d8439c...@dizum.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.washington
>>>>>
>>>>> Lie site flushed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> alt.fuck.maga
>>>>
>>>> *applause*
>>>>
>>>> Fuck the alt.right, neo Nazis and white nationalists.
>
>>> Yup, in your mind anyone who disagrees with the looney left MUST be
>>> one of the above.
>
>A not surprising lie.
>
Your posting here speaks for itself (unless you lie in your posts).
>On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 10:23:39 -0700, Skeeter <Skeet...@proton.me> wrote:
>
>>On 8/20/2023 6:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 09:17:26 -0400, Governor Swill
>>> <governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 04:01:54 -0400 (EDT), Reem <reemnass...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <b790720716d8439c...@dizum.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.washington
>>>>>
>>>>> Lie site flushed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> alt.fuck.maga
>>>>
>>>> *applause*
>>>>
>>>> Fuck the alt.right, neo Nazis and white nationalists.
>
>>> Yup, in your mind anyone who disagrees with the looney left MUST be
>>> one of the above.
>
>A not surprising lie.
>
Mr. B1ack
Aug 21, 2023, 10:26:41 AM8/21/23
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