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Mark Renfro

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Comedian Jerry Lewis faces death threats from stalker in jail.
Lewis makes no apologies of his right to self-defense.
Ralph Weller
Contributing Editor

09 September, 1999 - Comedian Jerry Lewis, stalked for years by a diagnosed
chronic schizophrenic who eventually threatened his young daughter, is now
facing threats again. The stalker is now serving a six year sentence for
threats to Lewis and his family but hasn't seemed to learn his lesson.

On Larry King Live on 26 August, 1999, Jerry Lewis talked about his life
and, in particular, the eventual capture and sentencing of the stalker that
threatened his young daughter. Lewis was recently made aware by law
enforcement authorities of death threats made towards Lewis by the obsessed
felon from his prison cell. Lewis' response to Larry King was to egg the
stalker on. He said in essence he would love for this guy to come to his
house. He's ready for him and he's not frightened by the threats. Then, in
a statement that left Larry King speechless and somewhat stunned, Lewis
said; "I would rip his head off with a nine millimeter and think nothing
more about it than a trip to the store for a carton of milk."

Lewis has reconciled in his mind that he clearly has an obligation and right
to protect his own life and the lives of his loved ones with a firearm. He
was clearly angry and upset that someone would threaten his young daughter
and made no apologies for his feelings or what he would do.

The convicted stalker, Gary Benson, is scheduled for release on October 5,
1999 after serving 4.3 years of his six year sentence. Jerry Lewis will
appear before a court on September 21 seeking to extend a 1992 restraining
order against Benson.

Though he didn't bring the subject up, we doubt Jerry Lewis would be
supportive of authorities asking for him to turn in his firearm for the sake
of gun control and a "better society".

The notion that gun owners are "gun whackos", "gun nuts" and people who only
own guns only to "kill other people" is dispelled by the lives Jerry Lewis
has affected positively through his tireless efforts to help those afflicted
with muscular distrophy.
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u tsi s da lu gi s gv = (Shining)
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of society."

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Pop Kulcher

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> The notion that gun owners are "gun whackos", "gun nuts" and people
who only
> own guns only to "kill other people" is dispelled by the lives Jerry
Lewis
> has affected positively through his tireless efforts to help those
afflicted
> with muscular distrophy.

I dunno. If you've ever seen some of his earlier cinematic
achievements, you'd be pretty comfortable thinking of him as a gun
wacko.

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tony G as Frank Cannon

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Authorities should ask JERRY LEWIS to turn in HIS fire arms in because
of the chance that sombody may make "society better".

>The notion that gun owners are "gun whackos", "gun nuts" and people who only
>own guns only to "kill other people" is dispelled by the lives Jerry Lewis
>has affected positively through his tireless efforts to help those afflicted
>with muscular distrophy.

And fuck those French too.

>******************************************************


Glenworthy@xteleport.com Henry Glenworthy

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Pop Kulcher wrote in message <7rbd20$jkc$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>>The notion that gun owners are "gun whackos", "gun nuts" and people
>>who only own guns only to "kill other people" is dispelled by the lives
>>Jerry Lewis has affected positively through his tireless efforts to help
>>those afflicted with muscular distrophy.

>I dunno. If you've ever seen some of his earlier cinematic


>achievements, you'd be pretty comfortable thinking of him as a gun
>wacko.


>>>>

What, exactly, is a "gun wacko"? Someone who chooses to use
a specific tool, a gun, to defend himself and his family? As opposed
to a "defenseless whimp wacko" who hopes and prays no one
will ever hurt him? Who thinks that dialing (if he has the time) 911
will somehow magically solve his problems?

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Pop Kulcher

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> >>The notion that gun owners are "gun whackos", "gun nuts" and people
> >>who only own guns only to "kill other people" is dispelled by the
lives
> >>Jerry Lewis has affected positively through his tireless efforts to
help
> >>those afflicted with muscular distrophy.
>
> >I dunno. If you've ever seen some of his earlier cinematic
> >achievements, you'd be pretty comfortable thinking of him as a gun
> >wacko.
>
> What, exactly, is a "gun wacko"? Someone who chooses to use
> a specific tool, a gun, to defend himself and his family? As opposed
> to a "defenseless whimp wacko" who hopes and prays no one
> will ever hurt him? Who thinks that dialing (if he has the time) 911
> will somehow magically solve his problems?

Well, one definition of "gun wacko" would be someone who doesn't
understand the concept of sarcasm.

Glenworthy@xteleport.com Henry Glenworthy

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Pop Kulcher wrote in message <7rbp67$tan$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...

>> >>The notion that gun owners are "gun whackos", "gun nuts" and people
>> >>who only own guns only to "kill other people" is dispelled by the
>lives
>> >>Jerry Lewis has affected positively through his tireless efforts to
>help
>> >>those afflicted with muscular distrophy.

>> >I dunno. If you've ever seen some of his earlier cinematic
>> >achievements, you'd be pretty comfortable thinking of him as a gun
>> >wacko.

>> What, exactly, is a "gun wacko"? Someone who chooses to use
>> a specific tool, a gun, to defend himself and his family? As opposed
>> to a "defenseless whimp wacko" who hopes and prays no one
>> will ever hurt him? Who thinks that dialing (if he has the time) 911
>> will somehow magically solve his problems?

>Well, one definition of "gun wacko" would be someone who doesn't
>understand the concept of sarcasm.


>>>>

And one definition of "an easy ploy to get a point across" doesn't
understand usenet posting.

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Jim Alder

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While I don't think Jane Fonda or Ed Asner have a clue about politics or the way the world
works in the slightest, I don't think one should be excluded automatically from intelligent
conversation on any subject merely because they've appeared in movies, or are in show business
of any kind. I think Ted Nugent makes a smart stand for gun ownership when given the chance.

CinePhile wrote:

> In article <7ra3fe$qs$1...@mail.pl.unisys.com>, "Mark Renfro" <mark....@unisys.com> wrote:
>
> >The notion that gun owners are "gun whackos", "gun nuts" and people who only
> >own guns only to "kill other people" is dispelled by the lives Jerry Lewis
> >has affected positively through his tireless efforts to help those afflicted
> >with muscular distrophy.
>

> Not exactly the ideal spokesperson for gun ownership, he.
>
> Where the hell is all that money he raises every year going, anyway? It isn't
> going to the dystrophy patients, as any of them will tell you. Not only he
> not ensuring that that money buys them personal accessibility, he *uses* these
> patients for the "greater good", portraying them as pitiful, helpless victims.
>
> Anyone here care to be represented that way?
>
> No one? Why not? C'mon, he *means* well ...
>
> And don't count on the NRA to find a sharp spokesperson any time soon, either.
> Moses "All men urinate outdoors" Heston? Are you kidding?
>
> Even Head-rush Limbaugh said that celebrities shouldn't represent the NRA:
> "People who act in movies -- We listen to *them* for advice on gun control?"*
>
> -cp
>
> *Just in case you don't believe Head-rush said that, I've enclosed the clip:
>
> Name: actors.ram
> actors.ram Type: Realplay File (audio/x-pn-realaudio)
> Encoding: x-uuencode


Jim Alder

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Mark Renfro wrote:

> He's ready for him and he's not frightened by the threats. Then, in
> a statement that left Larry King speechless and somewhat stunned, Lewis
> said; "I would rip his head off with a nine millimeter and think nothing
> more about it than a trip to the store for a carton of milk."

While I applaud his determination to defend himself and his family, I think
he's overdoing the macho attitude - I suspect he would react more strongly to
killing someone, even justifiably, than he says he will.

I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter can do.


Mark Penman

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On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:44:59 -0400, Jim Alder <jima...@sssnet.com>
wrote:

> I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter
>can do.

While it is hardly a death ray, it should do quite a number on
your noggin.

--
Mark Penman
E-Mail: mpe...@ipass.net
Laissez Firearm page: http://www.ipass.net/~mpenman

TFW

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The great cross poster "Pop Kulcher"

Let all know what you do not understand


Pop Kulcher wrote in message <7rbp67$tan$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>

>> >>The notion that gun owners are "gun whackos", "gun nuts" and people
>> >>who only own guns only to "kill other people" is dispelled by the
>lives
>> >>Jerry Lewis has affected positively through his tireless efforts to
>help
>> >>those afflicted with muscular distrophy.
>>

>> >I dunno. If you've ever seen some of his earlier cinematic
>> >achievements, you'd be pretty comfortable thinking of him as a gun
>> >wacko.
>>
>> What, exactly, is a "gun wacko"? Someone who chooses to use
>> a specific tool, a gun, to defend himself and his family? As opposed
>> to a "defenseless whimp wacko" who hopes and prays no one
>> will ever hurt him? Who thinks that dialing (if he has the time) 911
>> will somehow magically solve his problems?
>
>Well, one definition of "gun wacko" would be someone who doesn't
>understand the concept of sarcasm.
>

Jim Alder

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Mark Penman wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:44:59 -0400, Jim Alder <jima...@sssnet.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter
> >can do.
>
> While it is hardly a death ray, it should do quite a number on
> your noggin.

I hope so, since I keep one nearby at night. But it will hardly tear
one's head off as Lewis seems to hope.


Mark Renfro

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Mark Penman <mpe...@ipass.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:44:59 -0400, Jim Alder <jima...@sssnet.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter
> >can do.
>
> While it is hardly a death ray, it should do quite a number on
> your noggin.
>
I know for a fact my CZ-85 nine millimeter, with one of those evil banned 15
round clips, can be emptied in 5 seconds. That most certainly would blow the
head at least open, if not off, of any stalking SOB. I guarantee it!

Mark "COSMOS" Renfro
u tsi s da lu gi s gi = (Brilliant)
u tsi s da lu gi s gv = (Shining)
a ga li ha = (Illuminating from within)
di tli hi = (Warrior)
My first name "Mark" in Cherokee.

E-MAIL [MARK....@UNISYS.COM]
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"Arms in the hands of individual citizens
may be used at individual discretion...
in private self-defense."

John Adams
A defense of the Constitutions of Government
of the United States of America (1787-88)

Michael M. Schmieg

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Jim Alder wrote:

> Mark Penman wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:44:59 -0400, Jim Alder <jima...@sssnet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter
> > >can do.
> >
> > While it is hardly a death ray, it should do quite a number on
> > your noggin.
>

> I hope so, since I keep one nearby at night. But it will hardly tear
> one's head off as Lewis seems to hope.

If loaded with hollow points, it will tear a good part of one's head off.


--

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Attorney at Law
110 Main Street
Milford, Ohio 45150
voice: 513-831-1200
fax: 513-831-1201
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Jim Alder

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"Michael M. Schmieg" wrote:

> Jim Alder wrote:
>
> > Mark Penman wrote:
> > > > I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter
> > > >can do.
> > >
> > > While it is hardly a death ray, it should do quite a number on
> > > your noggin.
> >
> > I hope so, since I keep one nearby at night. But it will hardly tear
> > one's head off as Lewis seems to hope.
>
> If loaded with hollow points, it will tear a good part of one's head off.

By definition, since my head is made up entirely of good parts. <g> I can't
say the same for those who might break in here. Mine is full of Black Talons
(my gun, not my head) and I have little doubt it will do the trick, but as
soon as I get night sights on my .45, it's assuming the position in the drawer
by the bed.

>
> Michael M. Schmieg
> Attorney at Law
> 110 Main Street
> Milford, Ohio 45150

I should probably write that down, being in Ohio, but don't know where Milford
is, so it's probably not nearby.

Jim Alder

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Mark Renfro wrote:

> Mark Penman <mpe...@ipass.net> wrote in message
> news:37da1778...@news.ipass.net...

> > On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:44:59 -0400, Jim Alder <jima...@sssnet.com>

> > wrote:
> >
> > > I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter
> > >can do.
> >
> > While it is hardly a death ray, it should do quite a number on
> > your noggin.
> >

> I know for a fact my CZ-85 nine millimeter, with one of those evil banned 15
> round clips, can be emptied in 5 seconds. That most certainly would blow the
> head at least open, if not off, of any stalking SOB. I guarantee it!

All right already! I'm sorry I brought it up. This is getting way too morbid!

Glenworthy@xteleport.com Henry Glenworthy

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Jim Alder wrote in message <37DB0212...@sssnet.com>...

>Mark Penman wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:44:59 -0400, Jim Alder <jima...@sssnet.com>
>> wrote:

>> > I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter
>> >can do.

>> While it is hardly a death ray, it should do quite a number on
>> your noggin.

> I hope so, since I keep one nearby at night. But it will hardly tear


>one's head off as Lewis seems to hope.


>>>>

Depends upon how many loaded magazines you've got...

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Jim Alder

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Henry Glenworthy wrote:

I have two. Twenty four Black Talons total.


W. E. Woods

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Jim Alder wrote:
>
> "Michael M. Schmieg" wrote:
>
> > Jim Alder wrote:
> >

> > > Mark Penman wrote:
> > > > > I also think he has a way too high opinion of what a nine millimeter
> > > > >can do.
> > > >
> > > > While it is hardly a death ray, it should do quite a number on
> > > > your noggin.
> > >
> > > I hope so, since I keep one nearby at night. But it will hardly tear
> > > one's head off as Lewis seems to hope.
> >

> > If loaded with hollow points, it will tear a good part of one's head off.
>
> By definition, since my head is made up entirely of good parts. <g> I can't
> say the same for those who might break in here. Mine is full of Black Talons
> (my gun, not my head) and I have little doubt it will do the trick, but as
> soon as I get night sights on my .45, it's assuming the position in the drawer
> by the bed.

I've found that Hydra-Shocks feed nicely through my Springfield .45's. I
<gasp!> haven't tried Black Talons through them. I've got Trijicons on
one of my home defense guns, and yellow/white bar-dot-bar on the one I
usually carry. I've compared them quite a bit in low light shooting and
really haven't noticed a great deal of difference. My night vision is
awfully acute, though, so it could just be a personal thing. If the
Hydra-Shocks act the same way on an attacker as they do on a cantaloupe,
then they're well worth the money. I hope I never have to find out.


"Remember, a ship in harbor is safe, but that is not
what ships are built for."

"Give me ambiguity or give me something else!"

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