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and again...
tda...@edge.net (Tom & Terri Daugherty) writes:
>I am a skateboarder and I used to have no problem with police.
>Now I get yelled at for skating when I am just trying to have fun
>and I am doing nothin wrong. I am starting to hate police because
>they give me such a hard time. I am a good person and I skate just
>to have fun. (For police)I want to know why you give skateboarders
>such a hard time. We wouldn't hate you if you didn't hate us.
>-Jason
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> > tda...@edge.net (Tom & Terri Daugherty) wrote in article
> <4u8imq$g...@excalibur.edge.net>...
> > I am a skateboarder and I used to have no problem with police.
> > Now I get yelled at for skating when I am just trying to have fun
> > and I am doing nothin wrong. I am starting to hate police because
> > they give me such a hard time. I am a good person and I skate just
> > to have fun. (For police)I want to know why you give skateboarders
> > such a hard time. We wouldn't hate you if you didn't hate us.
> > -Jason
> >
> I have never seen a skateboarder get "yelled at" for just skateboarding
> down the street or on the sidewalk. I have heard of some cases where
> skateboarders go into malls or parking lots, which are private property
> and, for the most part, clearly posted with "no skateboarding" signs. I
> believe the concern by the mall owners is getting someone hurt on their
> property, not the dislike for those riding four-wheel conveyances. I have
> seen bumper stickers that read "skateboarding is not a crime," and I agree
> with them, but the mall owners have a right to say what happens on their
> own property
I have to agree. I don't have any problem with skateboarders. As a
matter of fact, I publicly support a local bond issue to build a
skateboard park for the kids. I *DO* have a problem with skateboarders,
or anyone else, who blatantly disregard private property and skateboard in
areas where it is not permitted. You see, if a property owner allows
skateboarding, even by such an ambiguous gesture as not specifically
prohibiting it, he can be held civilly liable for injuries incurred on his
property. Given the fact that America is "sue happy", I can't really
blame property owners for calling the police. They have to make it known
in no uncertain terms that they DO NOT allow skateboarding on their
property. Like much in todays society, thank Lawyers for that.
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J.D.
Funny this incident should come up. The other day I was on patrol and
came up on some skaters (2 on inline skates and one on a board). They
were in the parking lot of the high school. Since schools out these
guys were trespassing. I got out and spoke for a minute, and checked
out the guys board (yes, I used to skateboard as a kid). I asked them
if there was a place they could go besides the school parking lot and
they said they'd be glad to, and asked if I could suggest a spot.
Guess what, I couldn't. I beat my brains out (and asked another
patrolman) trying to think if there was an authorized spot they could
skate. I eventually realized there was none. Now what? Here were 3
guys who only wanted to skate somewhere, not raise hell, not bust
stuff up, just skate. I eventually got them squared away (While the
tennis courts were technically school property, I have seen numerous
people using them all summer so I assumed (bad word, I know) that you
could be there with the school boards blessing.). Hmmm..now I sit
here wondering why I even shared this story..oh well...
P.S. I might as well tell it all. I passed by the tennis courts a
little while later and they had moved a bicycle rack onto the court
and were sliding on it. I went by a few hours later, they were gone
and the rack was back where it belonged. I guess I gotta get it right
every once in awhile...
Mike
>and again...
>
>tda...@edge.net (Tom & Terri Daugherty) writes:
>
>>I am a skateboarder and I used to have no problem with police.
>>Now I get yelled at for skating when I am just trying to have fun
>>and I am doing nothin wrong. I am starting to hate police because
>>they give me such a hard time. I am a good person and I skate just
>>to have fun. (For police)I want to know why you give skateboarders
>>such a hard time. We wouldn't hate you if you didn't hate us.
>>-Jason
Once again our favorite pinhead has reposted more nonsense. Hello, is
anyone at home there? Let us break this down for you.
1. Politicians pass the laws and not the police.
2. Police enforce the laws. Especially if the elected officials have
made a to-do about enforcing the skate board laws.
3. Jason is skateboarding, in violation of the law, therefore the police
are required to bother him.
Why are there skateboarding laws? If someone is hurt on public property,
skateboarder or passerby, then the city might suffer liability for those
injuries. Some skateboarders, and by no means all or even most, cause
intentional or unintentional damage by landing or jumping with their
boards onto surfaces not designed to accept that kind of load. And, yes,
there is the small number of people who just can't stand to see a young
person have fun and call their councilmember and insist that the police
chase skateboarders off of public proptery.
If Jason has a problem then he needs to deal with his councilmember and
city council and not the cops. They are doing exactly what they were paid
to do. duh.
Long live long boards and the days of home made skateboards.
The DataRat
I don't think police hate skateboarders unless they skate in areas that
threaten the public. Picture yourself as a feeble old lady with hips
that will fracture and cripple her for the rest of her life if she falls.
Yes, this happens to little old ladies, more often than not. Now picture
a skateboarder zooming around her. If skateboarders were to skate in
areas that weren't surrounded by pedestrians, they would win more respect.
By the way, skateboards are also known to be a good quick gettaway for
those who wish to do grafitti and other things, so don't be surprised if
you are at least watched. It only makes sense, I'm sure you have to
agree. -- Alleyct
I would suggest that you find others similarly inclined and
start talking to people who can do something to aid this
situation in a positive way that will benefit the kids coming
up as well. You know from reading your Thrasher that there are
legal public parks in some places that are designed with
skaters (and bladers) in mind. So why haven't you got one? If
it is a matter of official resistance, that's one kind of
problem; if its money, thats another kind of problem; but maybe
its just no one ever tried approaching their city council
persons or parks and recreation people with such a request.
Probably there are businesses that would be interested in
helping such a project get going. Probably you could have a
whole community behind you, getting it going. And even if you
failed, and I don't see any reason why you should fail, you
will have learned alot about how stuff can really get done.
Then, the next time you find a problem you care about, you'll
know how to help solve it. And there's always problems in this
life.
regards,
rudy
In article <4va5j6$2...@cliff.island.net> Alleycat,