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Marvin

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Sep 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/13/98
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I just finished reading HIGH HILL BLUE, by Diane Shah. It was about a
female LAPD officer, in the elite Metro Division, who tries to catch a
serial killer. One day she is at a "cop" bar. Another cop, a lesbian,
tries to seduce her. The main character then remarks that 30 to 40% of
female cops are thought to be lesbians.

For you cops, what do you think is the percentage of female cops who are
lesbians? Do you think 30 to 40% is too high? I think that figure is too
high.

For the record, Shah did speak to female LAPD officers to gather info for
her novel.

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Marvin
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RIDLEY1230

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Sep 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/13/98
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Why worried about the activities in other peoples bedroom? Worry about yourself
and leave peoples business alone. And if your your assumptions are correct ,
how will that help you?

Carl Franklin

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Sep 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/13/98
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What's up with doggin Marvin for asking a question?

If you don't want to read it then don't, but he has as much right to ask a
valid question as does anyone else. At least his has something to do with
LE. And, Marvin has yet to say anything negative about cops or LE in
general. ALL of his questions are valid and asked with a true interest.
The fact that this one has to do with the number of lesbians in LE is
actually a very good question. After all, from a sociological standpoint it
might be worthwhile in evaluating what makes a "good cop." But no . . .
some of you pinheads have to go off on him.

Marvin - there is no clear study that indicates the number of lesbians in
law enforcement. Typically, departments that hire women who are openly
lesbian - or at least appear to be - will tend to have a higher number on
their force. In other words, a women who is openly lesbian - much like a
man who is openly gay - will run into discrimination at some departments but
be accepted at others. Kinda the same as the dorks on this NG who dog you
for asking sexually oriented questions. Some folks are intimidated by
someone with such an attitude and must lash out against it.

There appears to be NO relationship between sexual orientation and
professional ability. There may, however, be some distinction between
sexual orientation and choices when it comes to professional activity. In
other words, someone who is aggressive - male or female - will chose a
physical response quicker than someone who is less aggressive. In some
situations this is critical, but there has yet to be any work in that
particular area.

My personal experience would suggest that there are a number of female
officers who sometimes are assumed to be lesbian. In fact, too many
officers (and citizens) assume a female officer is lesbian. This is a
prejudice. My experience suggests that there is no higher percentage of
lesbian police officers than there are lesbians in the general population.
Too many just assume that because an officer is female that she must also be
lesbian.

Now, there is a very good study - done by Dr. Sam Davies - that suggests
that testosterone level may have more to do with female involvement in LE
than does sexual orientation. Testosterone level is often used to measure
both sexual appetite (the higher the level in both male and female the
higher the interest in sex) and aggressiveness. Many physiologist, such as
Dr. Davies, hold that testosterone will create a more aggressive person -
both female and male. In Dr. Davies study, 100 female officers where tested
for that level and it was determined that 72% of them had a level higher
than the average female. Likewise, it was also found that a similar number
were more sexually aggressive - though not lesbian - than their traditional
counterparts.

In other words, while there are some obvious lesbian police officers, there
doesn't appear to be a higher number in LE than in the rest of society.
There does, however, appear to be some more sexually aggressive females in
LE. So . . . guys . . . if you want a good time . . . call a cop. :-)

Hope this helped.

Carl Franklin
ca...@dustdevil.com
http://www.dustdevil.com/ppl/carlf

Festus

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Sep 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/13/98
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Marvin wrote in message <6tfqk7$d5s6$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...

>I just finished reading HIGH HILL BLUE, by Diane Shah. It was about a
>female LAPD officer, in the elite Metro Division, who tries to catch a
>serial killer. One day she is at a "cop" bar. Another cop, a lesbian,
>tries to seduce her. The main character then remarks that 30 to 40% of
>female cops are thought to be lesbians.

At the "Lady Jail" SBI AKA Silly Bitch Institute, there is a gang of carpet
munching deputies who are quite aggressive. I'd say that number is right on.

Matter of fact, I knew a female SBI deputy who was murdered, it was a lez-bo
thing. Bummer too, nice girl.

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Marvin

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Sep 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/13/98
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Festus wrote in message <6thl09$qef$1...@nnrp3.snfc21.pbi.net>...

>
>Marvin wrote in message <6tfqk7$d5s6$1...@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com>...
>>tries to seduce her. The main character then remarks that 30 to 40% of
>>female cops are thought to be lesbians.
>
>At the "Lady Jail" SBI AKA Silly Bitch Institute, there is a gang of carpet
>munching deputies who are quite aggressive.
I thought the Sybil Brand Institute, located in East LA, was closed.

I'd say that number is right on.
>
>Matter of fact, I knew a female SBI deputy who was murdered, it was a
lez-bo
>thing. Bummer too, nice girl.

A case of "fatal attraction"?

scul...@aol.com

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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> For you cops, what do you think is the percentage of female cops who are
> lesbians? Do you think 30 to 40% is too high? I think that figure is too
> high.
> Marvin


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, Marvin....you kill me sometimes.
kc

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scul...@aol.com

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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In article <199809131254...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,

But, RIDLEY1230, what about the Vampire Witch Lesbian Cops? Or are those kind
okay?

scul...@aol.com

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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> In other words, while there are some obvious lesbian police officers, there
> doesn't appear to be a higher number in LE than in the rest of society.
> There does, however, appear to be some more sexually aggressive females in
> LE. So . . . guys . . . if you want a good time . . . call a cop. :-)
>
> Hope this helped.

That's very interesting, Carl. It seems to make alot of sense. I like to do
"agressive" things (race cars, bungee jump, kick box) but have never even had
the slightest inclination to "play for the other team". I will be skydiving
at the Air Force Academy next summer and my husband promised me when we
finally get our dream honeymoon to Austrailia I can go in the shark cage.
And you know by now how agressive I am (so to speak)....

Since you are such a wealth of knowledge and information, what numbers do you
have on the correlation of higher levels of testosterone to lesbians. If you
really think about it, not all lesbians are the "agressive" type. It seems
to me that there is a pretty even split down the middle. I don't know many
lesbians (that I am aware of, at least) but I do know an awful lot of gay
males. And they seem to be split pretty even between the dominate and
passive roles, so I would just imagine that the gay females would be also.

So all in all, it would make sense that if a group of gay females would have
some who tended to be passive and some who tended to be agressive, then a
group of straight females would also have similar qualities. Interesting
food for thought.

RIDLEY1230

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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What vampire lesbian?

scul...@aol.com

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Sep 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/15/98
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In article <199809151601...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
ridle...@aol.com (RIDLEY1230) wrote:
> What vampire lesbian?


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Marvin

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Sep 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/16/98
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scul...@aol.com wrote in message <6tlvq3$3oe$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>
>> For you cops, what do you think is the percentage of female cops who are
>> lesbians? Do you think 30 to 40% is too high? I think that figure is
too
>> high.
>> Marvin
>
>
>ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, Marvin....you kill me sometimes.
>kc
Rolling on the floor laughing your ass off...Please do not break anything in
the process. :-)

You were almost killed one time because of I. You told your husband about
me one time. He couldn't stop laughing. Car, containing you and your
husband, almost crashed.

You will think of this thread someday when you actually become a cop.
Who knows? A lesbian cop might try to seduce you. :-)

RIDLEY1230

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Stay out the peoples bedrooms, why worry bout them. Worry bout the brutality of
the white police!

scul...@aol.com

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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> You will think of this thread someday when you actually become a cop.
> Who knows? A lesbian cop might try to seduce you. :-)
> Marvin

Actually, only for you Marvin, will I relate this situation. I think there
is a woman here at work right now who is interested in me.

She is older (early 40s), not really ugly or pretty - just kind of there.
She is extra special nice to me...always coming in to say hello and talk.
Sometimes she puts her hand on my shoulder or arm. I really just figured she
was one of those touchy/feely types but then she came back from a business
trip and came in to thank me for the help I had given her while she was out
of town and gave me an envelope. She had bought me two pairs of earrings.
Both, reletively expensive silver...very pretty. I felt a little
uncomfortable about it but she was so nice and apprciative that I didn't want
to "assume" it was for anything more then what she said-doing a good job.

Since then she calls to chat if she is on the road and yesterday morning all
of us had an early brekfest with the CEO. I had run through the night before
and cleaned off the top of everyone's desk who was out of town and she comes
up to me in the hallway and asks if I cleaned her desk for her. When I said,
yes (I had done it for 15 other people too) she throws her arms around me and
gives me a hug.

Urk. Weird. I know she is not married and doesn't see/date men. But she
hasn't come out and said she was a lesbian. And she doesn't treat any of the
other women in the office like this even though there are others that work
with her just like I do.

So there, Marvin. I also had one woman hit on me before and ask me for a
date. I just politely declined and told her I was seeing my husband. She was
cool and never brought it up again. I figure that it is hard to ask someone
for a date in a female/male relationship so it is probably even harder to ask
in a same sex type of scenario. All I do is make sure that she is clear that
I am married and I adore my husband and hopefully she will recognize that I
wouldn't return those feelings. There is no need to be rude...I just try to
be honest and clear that I am not interested.

Life is complicated sometimes.

scul...@aol.com

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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In article <19980917030122...@ng141.aol.com>,


Shouldn't that be RITALIN1230?

biga...@my-dejanews.com

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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> ridle...@aol.com (RIDLEY1230) wrote:
> >
> >.... why worry bout them. ....

3 of the 4 womens coaches at my hi school were "bull dykes" - women who
wanted to be men. They "inspected" the girls as they left the showers,
seduced several, and sexually harrassed a good many more. This behavior
alone would have gotten any male teacher sacked!! Worse, they saw it their
moral duty to protect "their girls" from the boys, whether the girls wanted
protection or not. If they caught a couple holding hands or whispering
intimately they'd gang up and push the boy around and, of course, he'd be
suspended if he took the bait and pushed back. They poked a needle into a
boys eye when he tried to peek thru a bb-hole into the girls dressing room
and chased another down shouting "pervert" and promising to casterate him;
finally knocking him down and kicking him til a few senior men intervened!!

I could care less what women like that do in private but I certainly do not
want them given police authority or weapons!!

Linus Bicker

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:24:45 GMT, biga...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>
>> ridle...@aol.com (RIDLEY1230) wrote:
>> >
>> >.... why worry bout them. ....
>

...Please, weren't those scenes from Porkey's?


Marvin

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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scul...@aol.com wrote in message <6tra76$4ft$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>
>> You will think of this thread someday when you actually become a cop.
>> Who knows? A lesbian cop might try to seduce you. :-)
>> Marvin
>
>Actually, only for you Marvin, will I relate this situation. I think there
>is a woman here at work right now who is interested in me.
Only for me? Everyone else could read your post also. :-)

>So there, Marvin. I also had one woman hit on me before and ask me for a
>date. I just politely declined and told her I was seeing my husband. She
was
>cool and never brought it up again. I figure that it is hard to ask
someone
>for a date in a female/male relationship so it is probably even harder to
ask
>in a same sex type of scenario.

That lady should be advised to check lesbian publications for dates. Or
lesbian bars.

All I do is make sure that she is clear
that
>I am married and I adore my husband and hopefully she will recognize that I
>wouldn't return those feelings. There is no need to be rude...I just try
to
>be honest and clear that I am not interested.

I think you could file a sexual harrassment complaint against her if she
keeps on coming on to you. Would the same-sex complaint be accepted though?

Marvin

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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Carl Franklin wrote in message <6th3ju$q...@enews2.newsguy.com>...

>Marvin - there is no clear study that indicates the number of lesbians in
>law enforcement. Typically, departments that hire women who are openly
>lesbian - or at least appear to be - will tend to have a higher number on
>their force. In other words, a women who is openly lesbian - much like a
>man who is openly gay - will run into discrimination at some departments
but
>be accepted at others.
It would be a safe bet that San Francisco PD has many lesbian cops.

>My personal experience would suggest that there are a number of female
>officers who sometimes are assumed to be lesbian. In fact, too many
>officers (and citizens) assume a female officer is lesbian. This is a
>prejudice. My experience suggests that there is no higher percentage of
>lesbian police officers than there are lesbians in the general population.

I heard some study stating that 3-5% of US population is homosexual.
It is not clear what percentage is lesbian.


>There does, however, appear to be some more sexually aggressive females in
>LE. So . . . guys . . . if you want a good time . . . call a cop. :-)

I am reminded of a story about Capitol Police in the book, INSIDE CONGRESS.
There was a female officer, in her early 20s, who liked to have sex with
male officers inside a room in the Capitol building.

I guess I should take Carl's advice and head to cop bars near Dodger
Stadium for some "companionship". Do I really have a chance? :-)

>Hope this helped.
>
>Carl Franklin

Thanks for the info, Carl!

Carl Franklin

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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Marvin wrote

>I heard some study stating that 3-5% of US population is homosexual.
>It is not clear what percentage is lesbian.

I've seen similar claims. I believe that figure accounts for lesbians as
well.

>I am reminded of a story about Capitol Police in the book, INSIDE CONGRESS.
>There was a female officer, in her early 20s, who liked to have sex with
>male officers inside a room in the Capitol building.
>

LOL. There's also a president who likes to have sex in the Capitol
building. :-)

M81

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Sep 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/25/98
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I did not catch the beginning of this thread.
But isn't it possible, just ~possible~ that the female was inspired to
become a Police Officer in order to somehow make a small "difference"
in the world, every day, by helping others? By carrying on a family
tradition, perhaps? Or had a positive role-model that encouraged her to
pursue this career?

When reading this thread, please keep an open mind. LEOs are expected
to.

Magnum81


Trish Craig

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Sep 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/25/98
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It was a Marvin thing again M81. :)

Headnfork

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Sep 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/25/98
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Recent TV Documentary discussed male/female differences in scientific detail.
Example: turns out blindfolded mothers can zero in on their own baby by smell
alone: fathers fail this test.

Study also found that females can lift 65% of their body weight, while males
can lift 200% of their body weight.

My dread is that I'll have a fire, and a fire truck loaded with firewomen
arrives to put it out.

headnfork

scul...@aol.com

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Sep 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/26/98
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> My dread is that I'll have a fire, and a fire truck loaded with firewomen
> arrives to put it out.
> headnfork

As long as the fire isn't in your shorts you should be okay.
kc

Headnfork

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Sep 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/26/98
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>
>> My dread is that I'll have a fire, and a fire truck loaded with firewomen
arrives to put it out.
headnfork <<

>As long as the fire isn't in your shorts you should be okay.<

Well, of course, if the fire is in my shorts, the firewomen will be most
welcome.

If the fire is in my house, however, you fail to solve my problem.

headnfork


scul...@aol.com

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Sep 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/27/98
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Doesn't sound like a problem to me.

Phillizy

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Sep 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/27/98
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>
>> >> My dread is that I'll have a fire, and a fire truck loaded with firewomen
arrives to put it out.
>> headnfork <<
>>
>> >As long as the fire isn't in your shorts you should be okay.<
>>
>> Well, of course, if the fire is in my shorts, the firewomen will be most
>> welcome.
>>
>> If the fire is in my house, however, you fail to solve my problem.
>>
>> headnfork
>
>Doesn't sound like a problem to me.
>kc
>

Well, kc, if a fire truck loaded with firewomen showed up at your burning
house, you might be less sanguine about the future of the ol' homestead.

So much for political correctness.

Frankly, I think all fire and police candidates should pass the ladder carry
test.

Lizy

scul...@aol.com

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Sep 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/27/98
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> Well, kc, if a fire truck loaded with firewomen showed up at your burning
> house, you might be less sanguine about the future of the ol' homestead.
>
> So much for political correctness.
>
> Frankly, I think all fire and police candidates should pass the ladder carry
> test.
>
> Lizy

Well, Lizy, I have already lost one home and all my wordly possessions (except
the clothes I was wearing at the time) to a house fire. And if an entire
Firetruck filled with women showed up the next one...it wouldn''t bother me a
bit.

Phillizy

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Sep 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/28/98
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>
> Frankly, I think all fire and police candidates should pass the ladder carry
test. Lizy <

>Well, Lizy, I have already lost one home and all my wordly possessions (except
the clothes I was wearing at the time) to a house fire. And if an entire
Firetruck filled with women showed up the next one...it wouldn''t bother me a
bit. kc
<

You must have made a killing on the insurance.

Lizy

Magnum81

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Oct 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/1/98
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"....you must have made a killing on the insurance...."

DOUBT IT!!! Know a friend that's been there, done that, the T-shirt
"shrunk" !

Let's just say that it sure didn't do the pets and the goldfish any
good.

Magnum81


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