Regarding Red Light Cameras - Why don't drivers just stop?.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who see a light turn
yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
stop. Then they are caught by an RLC and whine about how unfair the system
is.
Red light runners kill and maim kids every day and belong in prison.
Paul Anderson
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Every stop light i've ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the
> driver to get thru the intersection before the light turns red or
> else to stop. Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who
> see a light turn yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the
> intersection and think they have some sort of "right" to get thru
> even though they could easily stop.
Their time is very valuable and shaving seconds off their travel time is
very important--more important than you or me or the family in the
minivan who is legally proceeding through a green light.
Hopefully their dangerous driving will eliminate them from the gene pool
before they have a chance to reproduce.
Paul
--
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OpenVMS Engineering
Hewlett-Packard Company
MLOM
I take it you've never been ass-ended while stopped at a red light.
Start observing the society; it will convince you that all residents
of this God-forsaken planet, including the politicians, belong in
prison.
edi...@netpath.net
ESCORTED funeral procession in nearby Greensboro, North Carolina.
Stoplight cameras can't distinguish between drivers obeying police
officers and ordinary red light runners - as that case shows.
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Sir Ray
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Every stop light i've ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
> get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
I guess you can't navigate this newsgroup a few threads down, where
this thread covers the Lubbock city's engineer own statement about
light timing in proposing RLC...
"Earlier this month, the station cited the rule-of-thumb that Lubbock
City Engineer Jere Hart asserted as the basis for timing lights at
city intersections. At most of the proposed camera intersections, Hart
did not follow his own rule.
At 82nd and University, the 50 MPH speed limit suggests the need for a
5 second yellow, but it currently set at just 4.3 seconds. At 82nd and
Frankford, the speed of traffic requires 4.5 seconds of yellow, but
the public is only given 4.0. Milwaukee and 19th, a 55 MPH
intersection, has a 4.4 second yellow when it should be 5.5. Parkway
and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under federal
regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
admitted the light should be 3.5 seconds.
Last year, before the news investigation, Hart assured city council
members that he would not increase yellow times. "
So your premise as to yellow lights always being long enough duration,
is, as usual, completely invalid to begin with.
What a surprise! :P
Sir Ray
> get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
I guess you can't navigate this newsgroup a few threads down, where
Brent P
> Because one such stoplight camera ticketed a driver in a POLICE-
> ESCORTED funeral procession in nearby Greensboro, North Carolina.
> Stoplight cameras can't distinguish between drivers obeying police
> officers and ordinary red light runners - as that case shows.
Now that's a way to roll in the dough... have a cop direct traffic and
let the RLC snap away.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
35BE5C.142...@usenet01.boi.hp.com:
Damn right. They are killers and maimers and along with speeders and drunk
drivers the worst and commonest criminals in america. But idiot americans
are told reckless driving is cool and that's what they believe.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:1173470329.2...@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
> I take it you've never been ass-ended while stopped at a red light.
No i never have so don't give me that crap about how you HAVE to run the
red light because the driver behind plans on running it!!! You are an
idiot and a mindless sheep.
>
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:1173471618....@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
> Because one such stoplight camera ticketed a driver in a POLICE-
> ESCORTED funeral procession in nearby Greensboro, North Carolina.
> Stoplight cameras can't distinguish between drivers obeying police
> officers and ordinary red light runners - as that case shows.
>
Get outa here, you idiot. Even if true that don't prove a thing. People
have been mistakenly arrested for lots of crimes Does that mean we
legalize everything?? THINK
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:1173471788....@s48g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
Yes i read that thread and that's what prompted me to start this one.
Hell, 3 seconds is plenty of time to either stop or get thru before the
light turns red.
Nate Nagel
At what speed?
(this is a test. Be sure to include reaction time and a reasonable
assumption for deceleration in your answer, and show your work.)
nate
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Parkway > and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under
federal
> regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
Are there really federal regulations mandating yellow light times? I
live in Foster City, CA where there is a green light that changes to
yellow and then red so fast it has completely cycled before I even got
to the other side of the road (I'm not kidding). I'm a young driver,
so I'm not one of those people who sit there for 30 seconds in front
of a green light before I start to hit the accelerator. When that
light hits green, I go! And about half way across the intersection it
turns yellow, and by the time I hit the other side, it turns red.
All this occurs when there is little traffic. Where I live is actually
very modern as there are underground sensors that detect whether cars
are waiting in the intersection or not. The reason I assume for the
short light times on my side is to expedite traffic on all directions.
MLOM
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
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Want to bet on 41 in a 25?
Larry Bud
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Moron, people don't have a zero second reaction time.
The real question is what do you have against a yellow light that is 5
seconds?
MLOM
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "MLOM" <g...@netzero.net> wrote innews:1173470329.2...@30g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> > I take it you've never been ass-ended while stopped at a red light.
>
> No i never have so don't give me that crap about how you HAVE to run the
> red light because the driver behind plans on running it!!! You are an
> idiot and a mindless sheep.
>
>
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
How about while behind OTHER stopped vehicles? I've had that shit
happen to me twice, because people just don't give a rat's ass,
including cops.
MLOM
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
RLCs have even been known to ticket cops. It's not a matter of
legalizing everything but simply making the enforcement reasonable. A
cop with radar and a good set of eyes is much more reasonable than a
send-all-humans-to-prison-damn-quickly camera system.
Sir Ray
read that thread and that's what prompted me to start this one.
> Hell, 3 seconds is plenty of time to either stop or get thru before the
This incoherent thinking shows exactly why you, SADDAM, are unfit to
offer traffic engineering advice at any level, but instead are much
more suited to become a new addition to the Body Worlds exhibits...
Bill Bonde
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> Every stop light i've ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
> get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
> Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who see a light turn
> yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
> they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
> stop. Then they are caught by an RLC and whine about how unfair the system
> is.
>
There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through the
green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red. You are
trying to time things to avoid stopping and the idiots who program the
lights think it's funny to give you half second greens. So people are
provoked to the run the lights. It's too bad but maybe you could
question the people who set the system up a bit more.
Bill Bonde
The simple solution would be not to force drivers to stop at every
light. Simply time the lights so that drivers don't have to always stop.
How hard is that? But they refuse to do that properly.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:est24m$j6h$5...@news.datemas.de:
> >
> The simple solution would be not to force drivers to stop at every
> light. Simply time the lights so that drivers don't have to always
> stop. How hard is that? But they refuse to do that properly.
>
Oh shut up, you idiot!!! So what if you have to stop for a stoplight?. You
make it sound like the EOTW. You are a nutball.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
> >
> There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through
> the green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red.
There are no such stoplights. You are a bald-faced liar and a flaming
nutball.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:1173478690....@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com:
They do if they're paying attention. Trouble is nuts like you driving thru
busy downtowns while yakking on a cellphone. Then a light turns yellow and
you don't see it till 3 seconds later and then a second later it changes to
red and then you're screaming about the stupid stoplights!!! URAMORON
Rich Piehl
You've been through every intersection in the country from every
direction? That's the only way you could accurately make that statement.
--
My parents thought I was a real wit, and they were half right.
--source unknown
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com:
HAHAHA. As always you have no rebuttal except childish namecalling. No
wonder you can't get a girl. HAHA
Rich Piehl
Drivers ed 101. No one has a 0 second reaction time.
You are truly an idiot. Any valid points you may have are overwhelmed
by your manic lunacy.
Take care,
Rich
God bless the USA
Eeyore
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> Every stop light i've ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
> get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
Good Lord. You said something sensible.
I'm shocked.
Graham
Eeyore
Bill Bonde wrote:
> The simple solution would be not to force drivers to stop at every light.
Or get rid of the lights by using roundabouts. They're safer too.
> Simply time the lights so that drivers don't have to always stop.
> How hard is that? But they refuse to do that properly.
It's called the 'green wave' here. It requires the lights to be linked to a
computerised control system. It also happens to encourage driving at a sensible
speed by making those breaking the limit stop at every set of lights.
Graham
Gus
> Every stop light i've ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
> get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
> yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
> they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
> is.
>
stoplight, 2 times behind other drivers who had to stop fast.
All we need are people so intimidated by suspicion of or actual short
times yellows etc. It has been demonstrated in England and the US that
Red Light Cameras increase the number of accidents.
The Traffic Camera boom is purely about making money by Corporations.
The Crooked Governments sign on because of what they see as easy money.
Using the criminal codes to make money is indicative of t corrupt
officials and greedy bureaucrats.
Simplistic idiots, that have a chip, on their shoulder, against drivers,
that don't conform to their socialistic desire, to manage other's lives
need to move to N Korea where they can imagine themselves part of the
Leaders Police State.
Free Lunch
Eeyore <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote in
<45F229E9...@hotmail.com>:
It works well on one-way streets or on roads with nicely spaced traffic
lights. If there are many lights or erratic distances, the green wave
only works in one direction.
Jim Yanik
news:1173479202....@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
> On Mar 9, 3:37 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
><xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "edi...@netpath.net" <edi...@netpath.net> wrote
>> innews:1173471618....@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Because one such stoplight camera ticketed a driver in a POLICE-
>> > ESCORTED funeral procession in nearby Greensboro, North Carolina.
>> > Stoplight cameras can't distinguish between drivers obeying police
>> > officers and ordinary red light runners - as that case shows.
>>
>> Get outa here, you idiot. Even if true that don't prove a thing.
>> People have been mistakenly arrested for lots of crimes Does that
>> mean we legalize everything?? THINK
>
> RLCs have even been known to ticket cops. It's not a matter of
> legalizing everything but simply making the enforcement reasonable.
"reasonable" would be police writing REAL RL tickets *at the time of the
violation*,the violator getting POINTS on their license along with the
fine.
> A cop with radar and a good set of eyes is much more reasonable than a
> send-all-humans-to-prison-damn-quickly camera system.
>
>
However;a cop with a radar gun does NOT enforce any OTHER moving
violations,such as RLrunning,that are *more* hazardous to other drivers and
pedestrians.
(instead they try to blame speeding as the reason for RL running;it's not.)
That is the reason WHY so many drivers run red lights;they can do so with
little fear of getting ticketed.
The police are busy with revenue collection.
Public safety would be better served if the speed guns were taken away from
police and they return to enforcing all the other moving violations.
Truly excessive speed (for conditions) can be ticketed as "reckless
driving".
RLCs truly ARE about revenue collection;
RLC tickets generally do not assign points to the operators license,they
take WEEKS for the driver to receive their RLCticket(they could run
HUNDREDS of RLs in the time it takes to get the FIRST RLCticket,thus
increasing revenue!),and no other drivers SEE the RL violator getting
pulled over and wrote up by an officer.
and that's aside from yellow timing issues.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
Eeyore
Gus wrote:
> It has been demonstrated in England and the US that
> Red Light Cameras increase the number of accidents.
How on earth can that be ?
How about a cite ?
Graham
SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:Xns98EE794CC54CCr...@207.217.125.201...
> Every stop light i've ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
> get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
> Trouble is there are all these psychopathic drivers who see a light turn
> yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
> they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
> stop. Then they are caught by an RLC and whine about how unfair the system
> is.
>
> Red light runners kill and maim kids every day and belong in prison.
while I agree with you somewhat, a lot of this red light running (not all
but a lot) would be solved if the goddamn government would GET ITS HEAD OUT
OF ITS ASS (FOR ONCE) and TIME THE FUCKING STOPLIGHTS.
I was going through a part of downtown the other day, and going through
eight lights in a row, and not one of them was fucking timed. sorry, but we
should start bombing government buildings, killing cops and killing
politicians until they get the GODDAMN LIGHTS TIMED.
This is 2007 and there is NO FUCKING EXCUSE for not having the damn lights
timed.
DEATH TO THE USELESS UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
Nate Nagel
Actually, both of you are wrong, in the context of RLC's in the US.
Most RLCs are installed at intersections that have issues with yellow
light timing.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:JCyIh.11094$Jl....@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> while I agree with you somewhat, a lot of this red light running (not
> all but a lot) would be solved if the goddamn government would GET ITS
> HEAD OUT OF ITS ASS (FOR ONCE) and TIME THE FUCKING STOPLIGHTS.
>
> I was going through a part of downtown the other day, and going
> through eight lights in a row, and not one of them was fucking timed.
Maybe that's because you were doing 20 mph over the limit.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
>>
>> Red light runners kill and maim kids every day and belong in prison.
> The only accidents I have had was getting hit in the rear at a
> stoplight, 2 times behind other drivers who had to stop fast.
> All we need are people so intimidated by suspicion of or actual short
> times yellows etc. It has been demonstrated in England and the US that
> Red Light Cameras increase the number of accidents.
> The Traffic Camera boom is purely about making money by Corporations.
> The Crooked Governments sign on because of what they see as easy
> money. Using the criminal codes to make money is indicative of t
> corrupt officials and greedy bureaucrats.
> Simplistic idiots, that have a chip, on their shoulder, against
> drivers, that don't conform to their socialistic desire, to manage
> other's lives need to move to N Korea where they can imagine
> themselves part of the Leaders Police State.
>
BS. Red light runners are killers and maimers and you're a criminal
coddler who wants these monsters to go unpunished. If you think it's all
about revenue then lets stop fining red light runners and throw them in
jail for a week. How about it, big talk?
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
$RJ5...@newsfe06.lga:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>> Bill Bonde <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>> news:est20o$j6h$4...@news.datemas.de:
>>
>>> There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through
>>> the green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red.
>>
>> There are no such stoplights. You are a bald-faced liar and a flaming
>> nutball.
>>
>
> You've been through every intersection in the country from every
> direction? That's the only way you could accurately make that statement.
>
I've never seen any like that and neither have you. Case closed.
Rich Piehl
> Rich Piehl <rpiehl5REM...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in news:5bpIh.675
> $RJ5...@newsfe06.lga:
>
>> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>>> Bill Bonde <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>>> news:est20o$j6h$4...@news.datemas.de:
>>>
>>>> There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through
>>>> the green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red.
>>> There are no such stoplights. You are a bald-faced liar and a flaming
>>> nutball.
>>>
>> You've been through every intersection in the country from every
>> direction? That's the only way you could accurately make that statement.
>>
>
> I've never seen any like that and neither have you. Case closed.
How would you know what I have and haven't seen?
You are truly an idiot. Any valid points you may have are overwhelmed
by your manic lunacy.
Take care,
Rich
God bless the USA
--
MLOM
<rpiehl5REMOVETHIS...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote:
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > $RJ5....@newsfe06.lga:
>
> >> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> >>>news:est20o$j6h$4...@news.datemas.de:
>
> >>>> There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through
> >>>> the green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red.
> >>> There are no such stoplights. You are a bald-faced liar and a flaming
> >>> nutball.
>
> >> You've been through every intersection in the country from every
> >> direction? That's the only way you could accurately make that statement.
>
> > I've never seen any like that and neither have you. Case closed.
>
> How would you know what I have and haven't seen?
>
> You are truly an idiot. Any valid points you may have are overwhelmed
> by your manic lunacy.
>
> Take care,
> Rich
>
> God bless the USA
>
> --
> My parents thought I was a real wit, and they were half right.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Welcome to r.a.d, Rich. People in r.a.d are not fully initiated until
getting some flame from Aunt Judy.
Rich Piehl
That's the truly stupid part. Judy said she plonked me two or three
years ago because she couldn't dispute my logic. As she started to
argue with me I was chuckling to myself.
or
See message #12.
Manteca Fly Fisherman
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Oh my god, and you dont even see the irony. The person who calls
speeders murderers is calling someone a nutball.
jcr
> Every stop light i've ever seen has a yellow plenty long for the driver to
> get thru the intersection before the light turns red or else to stop.
> yellow when they are still 10 car lengths from the intersection and think
> they have some sort of "right" to get thru even though they could easily
> stop. Then they are caught by an RLC and whine about how unfair the system
> is.
>
The last time I purposefully ran a stop light was because a large dump
truck was behind me laying on the horn. He either didn't intend to stop
(squashing me in the process had I stopped), or his brakes were failing.
I gunned it and blew through the red light with the truck blowing
through behind me.
I have been rear ended at stop lights. It isn't *always" the safe thing
to do.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:pip-74E6B5.1...@comcast.dca.giganews.com:
No irony to it, you moron. Speeders murder people every day in america.
THINK
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
news:1173478996....@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com:
> On Mar 9, 3:34 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> No i never have so don't give me that crap about how you HAVE to run
>> the red light because the driver behind plans on running it!!! You
>> are an idiot and a mindless sheep.
>>
>
> How about while behind OTHER stopped vehicles? I've had that shit
> happen to me twice, because people just don't give a rat's ass,
> including cops.
>
>
That's never happened to me and i don't believe it's ever happened to you.
So you're claiming you and the guy in front of you are stopped waiting for
the light to change and some idiot rear-ends you???? That's not a case of
red light running then. More likely some drunk playing with a cell phone.
Bill Bonde
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>
> Rich Piehl <rpiehl5REM...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote in news:5bpIh.675
> $RJ5...@newsfe06.lga:
>
> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> >> Bill Bonde <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
> >> news:est20o$j6h$4...@news.datemas.de:
> >>
> >>> There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through
> >>> the green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red.
> >>
> >> There are no such stoplights. You are a bald-faced liar and a flaming
> >> nutball.
> >>
> >
> > You've been through every intersection in the country from every
> > direction? That's the only way you could accurately make that statement.
> >
>
> I've never seen any like that and neither have you. Case closed.
>
I see it a lot on intersections at night. Why do I have to stop at every
single traffic light? Why should the idiots who time them think I'll
like that? Doesn't that provoke people to run lights?
Bill Bonde
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>
If you don't care about me, care about how it wastes gasoline and diesel
fuel and whatever it is those electric cars run on.
Bill Bonde
Eeyore wrote:
>
> Bill Bonde wrote:
>
> > The simple solution would be not to force drivers to stop at every light.
>
> Or get rid of the lights by using roundabouts. They're safer too.
>
Roundabouts don't really work that well if they are cycling in traffic
from more than one plane, at least not the small retrofitted type. The
obvious answer is to time the damn lights logically so that they are
green for the drivers going down the road changing as that group get to
the light.
> > Simply time the lights so that drivers don't have to always stop.
> > How hard is that? But they refuse to do that properly.
>
> It's called the 'green wave' here. It requires the lights to be linked to a
> computerised control system. It also happens to encourage driving at a sensible
> speed by making those breaking the limit stop at every set of lights.
>
I'm just saying do it.
--
Gore say global warm-warm bad
Gore say that it make him sad
He give us eighteen year to dump the ICE
Must switch over and eat cold rice
Bush say global warm-warm not real
Even though ice gone and no seals
Polar bears can't find their meals
Grow as thin as Ally McBeals
Now Gore give us Inconvenient Troof
Suppose that better than other goof
What was it called, Day After Tomorrow
It had more copters crashin' than Vic Morrow
Brent P
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>> Rich Piehl <rpiehl5REM...@NOSPAMcharter.net> wrote
>> >> Bill Bonde <tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
>> >>> There are plenty of intersections where you attempt to roll through
>> >>> the green light that turns *instantly* to yellow and then red.
>> >> There are no such stoplights. You are a bald-faced liar and a flaming
>> >> nutball.
>> > You've been through every intersection in the country from every
>> > direction? That's the only way you could accurately make that statement.
>> I've never seen any like that and neither have you. Case closed.
> I see it a lot on intersections at night. Why do I have to stop at every
> single traffic light? Why should the idiots who time them think I'll
> like that? Doesn't that provoke people to run lights?
Just friday night I was at a turn on arrow only type light. I went as
soon as it turned green, it was yellow before I was halfway through the
intersection.
Larry Bud
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Larry Bud" <larrybud2...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:1173478690....@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Mar 9, 4:39 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
> > <xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> Yes i read that thread and that's what prompted me to start this one.
> >> the light turns red
>
> > Moron, people don't have a zero second reaction time.
>
> They do if they're paying attention.
That's one of the most stupid things you've ever said... and that's
saying a lot!
Bill Bonde
So imagine you are watching the cars in front and trying to roll forward
at the right speed to make it through the light without stopping, you
know because you listened to Gore and you don't want the environment any
warmer. But you end up still having to stop because the light doesn't
stay green but a millisecond. It's ridiculous.
--
Gore say global warm-warm bad
Gore say that it make him sad
He give us eighteen year to dump the ICE
Must switch over and eat cold rice
Bush say global warm-warm not real
Even though ice gone and no seals
Polar bears can't find their meals
Grow as thin as Ally McBeals
Now Gore give us Inconvenient Troof
Suppose that better than other goof
What was it called, Day After Tomorrow
It had more copters crashin' than Vic Morrow
Now Bush try too to be cool
Come out for new EPA rules
More MPG and testing tools
What does he take us for, fools?
Gore not elected president
Instead we got Bush resident
But soon Gore tell us our future
He be our guy Gaia god, "Papa Nurture"
Bush fight back try tell us why
Gore smoke Thai stick to get high
They both bad-bad men must fry
They type what make Baby Jesus cry
That too terrible to contemplate
Clinton president but always late
Blame for mess should go to him
That blue dress was just a whim
Time to move past Gore and Bush
Perhaps this poem will go 'whoosh'
Or Monica will wipe her tush
Can you think of anything else that rhymes with 'Bush'?
Brent P
Even worse, be stuck behind someone who doesn't understand the
programming and coasts up to it instead of getting on the go pedal to
trip the sensor in the programming window. Since he doesn't you're stuck
there for two cycles.
Sharon
> On Mar 9, 12:23 pm, "Sir Ray" <waterboi5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Parkway > and Zenith has a 2.9 second yellow which is illegal under
> federal
>> regulations mandating yellow times of no less than 3.0 seconds. Hart
>> admitted the light should be 3.5 seconds.> What a surprise! :P
>
> Are there really federal regulations mandating yellow light times? I
> live in Foster City, CA where there is a green light that changes to
> yellow and then red so fast it has completely cycled before I even got
> to the other side of the road (I'm not kidding). I'm a young driver,
> so I'm not one of those people who sit there for 30 seconds in front
> of a green light before I start to hit the accelerator. When that
> light hits green, I go! And about half way across the intersection it
> turns yellow, and by the time I hit the other side, it turns red.
In Reston and Herndon, Virginia there are intersections like that,
where the green lasts for 2 or 3 seconds before turning yellow and then red.
My DH thinks it's certain times of day, but I'm sure it's totally random.
As if the traffic in Virginia wasn't bad enough. After sitting at a
very long red light, when you see only the first one or two cars in front of
you make it through the intersection, suddenly the most patient driver gets
MFFY attitude.
- Sharon
"Gravity... is a harsh mistress!"
Ad absurdum per aspera
Thought that kind of rear-ender was going to happen to me today (in a
city that has a few red-light cameras, but not at that
intersection). The light turned yellow, and was far enough away that
it would, at best, have been a dark shade of pink, and probably
outright red, by the time I got there.
While stopping, I glanced in the mirror and noticed that the car
behind me was getting bigger and bigger faster and faster! Speeding
up to "make" a light that the guy ahead of you thought he couldn't
make, and was therefore stopping for... God bless energy-absorbing
crumple zones and airbags, is all I can say.
I eased off the brakes, kept an eye on the mirror, and thought of Plan
B. Meanwhile, the driver behind me either started paying attention
(better late than never) or realized that, silly me, I was going to
stop merely for a red light, and with a hearty romp on the brakes
managed to avoid getting Prestone all over my trailer hitch.
I wonder if the red-light cameras hereabouts are set up to enforce the
left arrow. A popular local driving style is to keep streaming
through after it has turned red, until the left-turn lane is empty or
somebody chickens out. The average at a busy intersection seems to be
two, and the most I've ever seen was seven (admittedly counting the
last red arrow runner's trailered boat as a separate vehicle). I
don't know if these clowns were just home sick from kindergarten the
day the teacher went over "waiting your turn," or what.
--Joe
Brent P
> While stopping, I glanced in the mirror and noticed that the car
> behind me was getting bigger and bigger faster and faster! Speeding
> up to "make" a light that the guy ahead of you thought he couldn't
> make, and was therefore stopping for... God bless energy-absorbing
> crumple zones and airbags, is all I can say.
> I eased off the brakes, kept an eye on the mirror, and thought of Plan
> B. Meanwhile, the driver behind me either started paying attention
> (better late than never) or realized that, silly me, I was going to
> stop merely for a red light, and with a hearty romp on the brakes
> managed to avoid getting Prestone all over my trailer hitch.
The only red light I ever deliberately ran I had already stopped for. The
minivan approaching from my rear was not braking. I looked both ways and
punched it. The minivan stopped where my backseat had been.
> I wonder if the red-light cameras hereabouts are set up to enforce the
> left arrow. A popular local driving style is to keep streaming
> through after it has turned red, until the left-turn lane is empty or
> somebody chickens out.
The congaline.... If I am in the lead spot of oncoming traffic to the
congaline I just go on green and that stops the congaline. Most people
however just sit there and enable it.