Trooper requested Tiger's blood for DUI test - Prosecutor said forget it!!!!
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/pga/2009-12-07-tiger-woods-
accident_N.htm?csp=34
Trooper sought blood results after Tiger Woods' crash
Updated 1h 9m ago
WINDERMERE, Fla. (AP) � A Florida trooper who suspected Tiger Woods (FSY)
was driving under the influence requested a subpoena for the golfer's blood
results from the hospital he visited after crashing his SUV. But
prosecutors rejected the petition for insufficient information.
A witness, who wasn't identified in a police report released Monday, told
trooper Joshua Evans that Woods had been drinking alcohol earlier in the
day.
That same witness also told the trooper that Woods had been prescribed two
drugs, Ambien and Vicodin. The report did not say how the witness knew
that.
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Insufficient info??? He crashed the fkn car!!!
M
In his own driveway.
Not too much of a problem.
Besides, the "insufficient information" might be that the hospital
simply does not have those results.
One thing that never changes: S.A.D.D.& M. is still a cross-posting
psycho-twit.
Dave C.
> >
> > Insufficient info??? He crashed the fkn car!!!
>
> In his own driveway.
>
> Not too much of a problem.
>
Yeah, I never understood why the media was making such a big deal of
this. At worst, what happened was a civil matter. The incident
started on private property, continued on private property and ended on
somebody else's private property.
No law was broken. No law was even CLOSE to being broken. It's not
illegal to drive or crash on private property.
The only way I can see that Tiger could possibly be called to answer
for his actions is if one of his neighbors files a civil lawsuit
against Tiger. I can't imagine what the suit would be based on. Maybe
requesting reimbursement for landscaping charges, perhaps? I mean,
Tiger did drive through somebody's lawn and impact a tree. If the
neighbor cares, the neighbor might have (possibly) incurred some
charges in getting the damage to the lawn and tree repaired?
But it would be mighty evil to turn this into a civil suit. I mean, if
one of my neighbors drove through my lawn and crashed his SUV into one
of my trees, I wouldn't give a shit about the lawn or the tree... I'd
be worried about my neighbor. -Dave
Brent
> Yeah, I never understood why the media was making such a big deal of
> this. At worst, what happened was a civil matter. The incident
> started on private property, continued on private property and ended on
> somebody else's private property.
Selective enforcement. Woods is a big target for someone looking to
advance their career in government.
> No law was broken. No law was even CLOSE to being broken. It's not
> illegal to drive or crash on private property.
Doesn't matter, they wanted to find something to charge him with.
Private property rights are pretty much gone in the USA.
> The only way I can see that Tiger could possibly be called to answer
> for his actions is if one of his neighbors files a civil lawsuit
> against Tiger. I can't imagine what the suit would be based on. Maybe
> requesting reimbursement for landscaping charges, perhaps? I mean,
> Tiger did drive through somebody's lawn and impact a tree. If the
> neighbor cares, the neighbor might have (possibly) incurred some
> charges in getting the damage to the lawn and tree repaired?
In a proper world Tiger Woods arranges (or has his people arrange) a
landscaper and a tree doctor and a plumber to fix the mess and pays for
it. Worst case is the home owner's association has it all fixed and
sends Woods the bill which he then pays.
That's just not the world we live in any more. The top predators smelled
a potentional victim and went for it.
> But it would be mighty evil to turn this into a civil suit. I mean, if
> one of my neighbors drove through my lawn and crashed his SUV into one
> of my trees, I wouldn't give a shit about the lawn or the tree... I'd
> be worried about my neighbor.
But if you drove through your neighbor's lawn and such you'd have it
fixed.
MaryL
"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/pga/2009-12-07-tiger-woods-
> accident_N.htm?csp=34
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> Trooper sought blood results after Tiger Woods' crash
> Updated 1h 9m ago
>
> was driving under the influence requested a subpoena for the golfer's
> blood
> results from the hospital he visited after crashing his SUV. But
> prosecutors rejected the petition for insufficient information.
>
> A witness, who wasn't identified in a police report released Monday, told
> trooper Joshua Evans that Woods had been drinking alcohol earlier in the
> day.
>
> That same witness also told the trooper that Woods had been prescribed two
> drugs, Ambien and Vicodin. The report did not say how the witness knew
> that.
>
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> Insufficient info??? He crashed the fkn car!!!
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Yes, but police *often* do not subpoena that information following one-car
accidents. That's the reason I described my parents' accident in another
thread--drunk driver, crossed the center line, ran head-on into them, they
were badly injured and hospitalized for a considerable period of time, had
to have teeth replaced, etc. The other driver was not cited despite the
presence of witnesses. We had to get an attorney to get a court order so we
could see his blood test (taken at the hospital, not under police orders).
His alcohol content was still .18 even after some time had elapsed!
MaryL
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
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> No law was broken. No law was even CLOSE to being broken. It's not
> illegal to drive or crash on private property.
>
Where do you get such stupid ideas??? You drive on my front lawn and
crash into a tree and i'm gonna sic the cops on you.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS
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> "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <xeto...@yahoo.com> wrote
> in message news:Xns9CDAA8A944B31r...@216.168.3.70...
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>>
>>
>> http://www.usatoday.com/sports/golf/pga/2009-12-07-tiger-woods-
>> accident_N.htm?csp=34
>>
>> Trooper sought blood results after Tiger Woods' crash
>> Updated 1h 9m ago
>>
>> WINDERMERE, Fla. (AP) - A Florida trooper who suspected Tiger Woods
>> (FSY) was driving under the influence requested a subpoena for the
>> golfer's blood
>> results from the hospital he visited after crashing his SUV. But
>> prosecutors rejected the petition for insufficient information.
>>
>> A witness, who wasn't identified in a police report released Monday,
>> told trooper Joshua Evans that Woods had been drinking alcohol
>> earlier in the day.
>>
>> That same witness also told the trooper that Woods had been
>> prescribed two drugs, Ambien and Vicodin. The report did not say how
>> the witness knew that.
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>> Insufficient info??? He crashed the fkn car!!!
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>
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> Yes, but police *often* do not subpoena that information following
> one-car accidents.
The hell they don't. People get tested for DUI for ZERO-car accidents
like when you're pulled over while just drivng down a road.
MaryL
I didn't say that police *never* test in one-car accidents. As you said,
they may test when there has not even been an accident. My point is that is
it not uncommon for them to fail to take a test after an accident, and that
would be even more true when they did not take a test and then would need a
subpoena to get the information. I recognize that it is *also* not uncommon
for them to do either of those things.
MaryL
Michael Snyder
Words like "often" and "uncommon" have very ambiguous meanings, esp.
when two people are on opposite sides of an opinion.
Harry K
Just curious here. Didn't he drive a short distance on public
property? Haven't watched the video close enough to tell.
I'm with Brent here. Selective enforcement even if he was drunk.
Harry K
MaryL
"Michael Snyder" <msn...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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That's true!
MaryL
Dave C.
> > But it would be mighty evil to turn this into a civil suit. I
> > mean, if one of my neighbors drove through my lawn and crashed his
> > SUV into one of my trees, I wouldn't give a shit about the lawn or
> > the tree... I'd be worried about my neighbor. -Dave
>
> Just curious here. Didn't he drive a short distance on public
> property? Haven't watched the video close enough to tell.
>
It doesn't matter. The nearest public property is a few miles away.
He lost control trying to (apparently) exit his own property. When he
did exit his own property, he entered his neighbor's property, where he
struck a tree. -DAve
Dave C.
> >
> > No law was broken. No law was even CLOSE to being broken. It's not
> > illegal to drive or crash on private property.
> >
>
>
> Where do you get such stupid ideas??? You drive on my front lawn
> and crash into a tree and i'm gonna sic the cops on you.
They'd only respond if you accused me of trespassing. But the point
you miss is, the cops would only have jurisdiction if there was a
complaint by the property owner. In this case, I imagine that there
was no such complaint. If you want to call the cops on your neighbor,
you have every right to be so stupid. And I'll be the neighbors LOVE
you. -Dave
Dave C.
> That's just not the world we live in any more. The top predators
> smelled a potentional victim and went for it.
>
> > But it would be mighty evil to turn this into a civil suit. I
> > mean, if one of my neighbors drove through my lawn and crashed his
> > SUV into one of my trees, I wouldn't give a shit about the lawn or
> > the tree... I'd be worried about my neighbor.
>
> But if you drove through your neighbor's lawn and such you'd have it
> fixed.
That goes without saying. I'd feel embarrassed and want it cleaned up,
quick. -Dave
Harry K
Aha. I forgot that is a high end community and probably no public
right of way.
Harry K
Paul Hovnanian P.E.
been a hook or a slice?
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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <pa...@hovnanian.com> wrote in message
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> What I want to know is: When Tiger drove into that tree, would that have
> been a hook or a slice?
Not sure about that, but some of the women he has been into have taken him
into the rough!!!!
CCBlack
> It doesn't matter. The nearest public property is a few miles away.
> He lost control trying to (apparently) exit his own property. When he
> did exit his own property, he entered his neighbor's property, where he
> struck a tree.
Dave ... you are so full of shit ( as usual ) it's unbelievable.
Tiger Woods was not prosecuted for a DUI because of his celebrity
status pure and simple.
I'm just an average citizen, " Jo Six Pack " if you will. If I got
into my personnel vehicle at 2:00 AM, and went careening down my
driveway, across the street, bounced off a curb, then back across the
street, over a fire hydrant, and then smashed into a tree in my
neighbors yard, the cops in my town would have a field day with me.
They would want to know if I was driving impaired, and whether it was
a field sobriety test or a blood sample drawn at the hospital ... they
would find out. And if I was found to be DUI ... I would be
prosecuted.
Whether Tiger was " under the influence " of something ... I guess the
world will never know now. ( nor do I really give a damn ). The
Florida State Attorney decided apparently to not go ahead with an
investigation for whatever reason. ( Tiger's powerful attorney's ? )
And your " private property " argument is completely irrelevant. I've
had Friends arrested for DUI right in their own driveway. One could
be arrested in a convenience store parking lot, a bar parking lot, on
a dirt road riding an ATV, even on a golf course. Guess what ... they
are all " private property ".
Get a clue.
Chris
Dave C.
CCBlack <ccbla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Dave C. wrote:
> > It doesn't matter. The nearest public property is a few miles away.
> > He lost control trying to (apparently) exit his own property. When
> > he did exit his own property, he entered his neighbor's property,
> > where he struck a tree.
>
>
>
> Dave ... you are so full of shit ( as usual ) it's unbelievable.
>
> Tiger Woods was not prosecuted for a DUI because of his celebrity
> status pure and simple.
>
> I'm just an average citizen, " Jo Six Pack " if you will. If I got
> into my personnel vehicle at 2:00 AM, and went careening down my
> driveway, across the street, bounced off a curb, then back across the
> street, over a fire hydrant, and then smashed into a tree in my
> neighbors yard, the cops in my town would have a field day with me.
Well yes, because then you would have been operating (briefly) on a
public road. Show me a road open to the public anywhere near Tiger's
house, and maybe I'll buy your argument. Oh, and BTW, what you wrote
is something darned near libel. You are speculating that Tiger was
drunk and/or drugged, when that is not known.
We don't know that Tiger was impaired. What we do know is that he
never left private property. -Dave
CCBlack
> Well yes, because then you would have been operating (briefly) on a
> public road. Show me a road open to the public anywhere near Tiger's
> house, and maybe I'll buy your argument. Oh, and BTW, what you wrote
> is something darned near libel. You are speculating that Tiger was
> drunk and/or drugged, when that is not known.
I'm speculating ? You idiot. The COPS suspected a DUI in this case :
> We don't know that Tiger was impaired. What we do know is that he
> never left private property.
The crash occurred in Orange County, outside of the Windermere city
limits inside a gated community. As with any crash in Orange County
outside of a municipality, FHP was called to respond. State law allows
for crash investigations inside gated communities ( private
property ). Drivers involved in a crash are required to report the
crash and fulfill the same requirements as if the crash occurred on
public property.
DUI ? The investigating officer would need to develop enough
reasonable suspicion during the crash investigation in order to begin
a criminal investigation for DUI.
In my opinion there was plenty of evidence to start a DUI
investigation. BUT ... like I said before ... he's Tiger Woods ...
and essentially there was no investigation.
If that had been any other average citizen it probably would have been
a DUI case.
Chris
Steve
> > Dave C. wrote:
> > Well yes, because then you would have been operating (briefly) on a
> > public road. Show me a road open to the public anywhere near Tiger's
> > house, and maybe I'll buy your argument. Oh, and BTW, what you wrote
> > is something darned near libel. You are speculating that Tiger was
> > drunk and/or drugged, when that is not known.
>
> I'm speculating ? You idiot. The COPS suspected a DUI in this case :
>
>
> > We don't know that Tiger was impaired. What we do know is that he
> > never left private property.
>
> The crash occurred in Orange County, outside of the Windermere city
> limits inside a gated community. As with any crash in Orange County
> outside of a municipality, FHP was called to respond. State law allows
> for crash investigations inside gated communities ( private
> property ). Drivers involved in a crash are required to report the
> crash and fulfill the same requirements as if the crash occurred on
> public property.
>
> DUI ? The investigating officer would need to develop enough
> reasonable suspicion during the crash investigation in order to begin
> a criminal investigation for DUI.
>
> In my opinion there was plenty of evidence to start a DUI
> investigation. BUT ... like I said before ... he's Tiger Woods ...
> and essentially there was no investigation.
>
> If that had been any other average citizen it probably would have been
> a DUI case.
>
> Chris
So...our boy genius Dave wants the letter of the law followed until
it's pointed out that he doesn't really understand the law or the
potential charges at which point both become "idiotic".
Wherever it is that you pretend to be a DAve....please remain there.