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Mattb

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Oct 19, 2018, 1:05:56 PM10/19/18
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:35:34 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 19/10/2018 12:41 PM, Mattb wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 08:01:11 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/10/2018 7:39 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 07:13:37 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 19/10/2018 7:05 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:34:48 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 19/10/2018 6:20 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:08:35 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 19/10/2018 4:01 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 15:37:42 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>>>> You did not answer my question. Fran do you believe Hamas should get
>>>>>>>>>>>> all of what it's charter calls for? Yes or NO?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Load question and thus a logical fallacy. Please as an outsider don't
>>>>>>>>>>> use these
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You can't and won't answer the question because I believe many have
>>>>>>>>>> seen what it would be.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you believe Hamas should get all of what it's charter calls for?
>>>>>>>>>> Yes or NO?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is a logical fallacy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll take that to mean you are afraid to give a honest answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take it how you want but it is a logical fallacy demanding a yes or no
>>>>>>> answer to a complex question. However my position is a 2 State solution
>>>>>>> with a return to the '67 borders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pre 1967 or 1967?
>>>>
>>>> Not going to happen.
>>>
>>> The war will continue with fault on both sides
>>
>> Well you see here we agree was that so hard to admit?
>
>Admit what?

That both sides are at fault. That you can't see that is strange to
me.
>
>>
>> The thing is Israel for the most part targets military or terrorist
>> targets while the Palestinians target civilian and some people/groups
>> excuse that. Fran has in the past. You don't but getting you to
>> admit it is like pulling teeth.
>
>What it your point in going on about this?

You start it by defending the terrorist. Seems to be a automatic
response from You, Ordog and Fran.


>What is your agenda?

On this subject don't have one I see the wrong on both sides and know
the History of the conflict. With Hamas their Charter and those that
agree with it I see as one reason peace is unlikely. You seem to
support most of the Hamas charter or fear losing your friends Fran and
Ordog if you say you don't.

In Israel I see the far right or ultra-orthodox freaks to be the main
problem. They don't want peace but also don't want to have to do any
of the fighting. I think remove the extremist from both sides and
there could be peace.


>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pre obviously
>>>>>
>>>>> If the question is complex the feel free to
>>>>>> explain. What about the right of return? Do you agree with that and
>>>>>> will it apply to Jews evicted from Arab States?
>>>>>
>>>>> No bloody idea, not up to me to sort out the details
>>>>
>>>> The just shut your mouth if you can't do more than defend a group that
>>>> fires missiles intentionally at civilians as they did a few days ago.
>>>
>>> OK you cross-posting septic bugger off if you can't follow a thread and
>>> all you can do is verbal people.
>>
>> I post to 2 Aus groups what is the problem?
>
>You

I will never support a terror group as you do.

Ordog wished people to die who will not defend terrorist, Fran and you
automatically defend terrorist group. Do all your friends, Family and
clients aid and abet terror groups that even your own government says
are terror group.

AMB:
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Mattb

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Oct 19, 2018, 1:13:08 PM10/19/18
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 19:00:34 +1100, Fran
<franhatesn...@loonynutters.com> wrote:

>On 19/10/2018 7:17 AM, de chucka wrote:
>> On 19/10/2018 7:08 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:36:36 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/10/2018 6:20 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 06:07:06 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 19/10/2018 3:58 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 15:35:41 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18/10/2018 3:16 PM, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 00:15:26 +0000 (UTC), US-Troll_Exterminator
>>>>>>>>> <Exter...@all-US-trolls.biz> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mattb, the nutcase US troll farted into cyberspace:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fran do you believe Hamas should get all of what it's charter
>>>>>>>>>>> calls for?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This Hasbara troll is throwing verbal cartwheel just to provoke
>>>>>>>>>> a ME
>>>>>>>>>> conflict / Palestine bashing thread in this Australian newsgroup.
>>>>>>>>>> One can only wonder what it hopes to achieve by doing so!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Strange the article posted was about Australia.  So that doesn't
>>>>>>>>> belong in a  Australian newsgroup.   Why?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/15/middleeast/australia-embassy-jerusalem/index.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> but the article had nothing about you bleating on about the Hamas
>>>>>>>> charter. As you know this was an attempt to get the Jewish vote in
>>>>>>>> Wentworth and common sense will prevail after Saturday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet the Hamas Charter is a large part of the problem.  You reject
>>>>>>> that. If Israel had the same but about the Palestinians in their
>>>>>>> Charter your scream.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't verbal me
>>>>>
>>>>> On other words don't use logic and reason on you.
>>>>
>>>> No don't verbal me or use logical fallacies to force my position
>>>
>>> You fear answering?
>>
>> no I don't want to be verballed
>
>He's now verballed you 3 times. Standard operating procedure for him.

I asked a simple question of you both do you believe in all of what
the Hamas charter calls for in connection to peace with Israel. Seems
the answer is yes.
>
>>> Fran is a terrorist lover that is plain to see.
>>
>> If you think that you are dumber then your postings suggest
>
>Now he's verballing me. What fun!

No I believe Fran, Ordog and De Chucks aid and abet terrorist on
social media or other ways. I do wonder if their friends, Family and
clients also do so or aid them in doing so.

AMB:

MattB.

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Oct 19, 2018, 5:13:47 PM10/19/18
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 08:09:00 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>or it seems you'll verbal her
>>>
>>>>> Fran is a terrorist lover that is plain to see.
>>>>
>>>> If you think that you are dumber then your postings suggest
>>>
>>> Now he's verballing me. What fun!
>>
>> No I believe Fran, Ordog and De Chucks aid and abet terrorist on
>> social media or other ways.
>
>When it comes to me you would be inanely and crazily wrong but hey you
>like posting baseless crap and cross-posting

Mattb

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Oct 20, 2018, 12:49:40 PM10/20/18
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:45:43 +1100, Fran
<franhatesn...@loonynutters.com> wrote:

>On 20/10/2018 8:13 AM, de chucka wrote:
>> On 20/10/2018 4:05 AM, Mattb wrote:
>
>
>>> You start it by defending the terrorist.
>>
>> WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT or on?
>
>He's "on about" his habitual verballing. Nothing more nothing less.
>He, like pretzel, just makes things up and lies as he goes along.


You three are terrorist supporters that is plain to see and should be
checked out IMO.

So you might move you Embassy to Jerusalem that might be a good thing
and get the Palestinians to want peace instead of being whiny little
bitches. Palestinians say sure we fired 10 missiles your way, but you
should not fire back we be poor Palestinians. Sure we throw fire
bombs at your solders but they shouldn't fire back we are poor
Palestinians. Bullshit if you want peace don't attack.

Mattb

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Oct 20, 2018, 6:04:56 PM10/20/18
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 21:48:50 -0000 (UTC), Ördög
<aba...@purgatory.org.invalid> wrote:

>It was written by Fran:
>
>> dechucka
>>> Mattb
>>>> You start it by defending the terrorist.
>>>
>>> WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT or on?
>>
>> He's "on about" his habitual verballing. Nothing more nothing less.
>> He, like pretzel, just makes things up and lies as he goes along.
>
>I am afraid he has an obvious political agenda here...why else is he so
>intent on cross-posting this thread into aus.legal and alt.law-
>enforcement.interpol again and again and again!
>He is not just the typical obnoxious septic troll.
>
>I guess we here in OZ will never be able to fathom to the full extent the
>depth of mental depravity and sick personality of members of the shit
>stirrer US political right!
>
>:(

Mattb

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Oct 20, 2018, 6:09:35 PM10/20/18
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:56:56 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 21/10/2018 3:49 AM, Mattb wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:45:43 +1100, Fran
>> <franhatesn...@loonynutters.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/10/2018 8:13 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>> On 20/10/2018 4:05 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> You start it by defending the terrorist.
>>>>
>>>> WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT or on?
>>>
>>> He's "on about" his habitual verballing. Nothing more nothing less.
>>> He, like pretzel, just makes things up and lies as he goes along.
>>
>>
>> You three are terrorist supporters that is plain to see and should be
>> checked out IMO.
>
>and you confirm what Fran said


I could but will leave that up to people better than myself. Fran is
a terrorist lover she is against killing unless it is a Jewish child
being killed then she says Hamas has a good reason to kill.

Ordog and Fran like to believe they represent the majority of the
Australian people, I'm glad they don't.





US-Troll_Exterminator

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Oct 20, 2018, 6:25:15 PM10/20/18
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Mattb, the nutcase US troll farted into cyberspace:

YAWN!
What a pathetic Hasbara loser!

--
FOAD!

US-Troll_Exterminator

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Oct 20, 2018, 6:28:51 PM10/20/18
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Mattb, the nutcase US troll farted into cyberspace:

> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:45:43 +1100, Fran
> <franhatesn...@loonynutters.com> wrote:
>
>>On 20/10/2018 8:13 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>> On 20/10/2018 4:05 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You start it by defending the terrorist.
>>>
>>> WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT or on?
>>
>>He's "on about" his habitual verballing. Nothing more nothing less.
>>He, like pretzel, just makes things up and lies as he goes along.
>
>
> You three are terrorist supporters that is plain to see and should be
> checked out IMO.

More brain-dead, obtrusive septic Yank Hasbara trolling terminated!

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Mattb

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Oct 20, 2018, 7:05:26 PM10/20/18
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 09:41:55 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 21/10/2018 9:33 AM, Mattb wrote:
>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 09:14:09 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21/10/2018 9:09 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:56:56 +1100, de chucka <Dech...@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21/10/2018 3:49 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:45:43 +1100, Fran
>>>>>> <franhatesn...@loonynutters.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20/10/2018 8:13 AM, de chucka wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 20/10/2018 4:05 AM, Mattb wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You start it by defending the terrorist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT or on?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's "on about" his habitual verballing. Nothing more nothing less.
>>>>>>> He, like pretzel, just makes things up and lies as he goes along.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You three are terrorist supporters that is plain to see and should be
>>>>>> checked out IMO.
>>>>>
>>>>> and you confirm what Fran said
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I could but will leave that up to people better than myself.
>>>
>>> You confirmed that you verbal people as she claimed
>>
>> Did I?
>
>You did by verballing her again

To you that is any time someone replies in kind or doesn't agree with
the Bitch.
>
> > Don't think so.
>
>You don't

Nope.
>
>>>
>>> > Fran is
>>>> a terrorist lover she is against killing unless it is a Jewish child
>>>> being killed then she says Hamas has a good reason to kill.
>>>
>>> You claimed that you believed there was right and wrong on both sides.
>>> That was an obvious lie on your part and it is all the Palestinians
>>> fault according to your post
>>
>> No not at all. I posted it was both often. I believe Hamas is a
>> major reason peace isn't possible true and them firing missiles into
>> Israel and then becoming Whiny Little Bitch when Israel responds in
>> kind.
>
>Make up your mind will you

So you are saying I should believe Hamas firing missiles into Israel
is good and also believe when they do Israel should not respond.
Interesting.

To suggest anything else is Verballing?
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ordog and Fran like to believe they represent the majority of the
>>>> Australian people, I'm glad they don't.
>>>
>>> I doubt that very much but at least the are Australians posting in an
>>> Australian political ng not a trolling septic
>>
>> Well they are powerless and are free to go form a moderated group.
>> Until then they can kiss my ass as they are truly powerless.
>
>It is more fun kicking it

Is it. OK Good you have opened the door.
>
>>
>> The articles I posted were about Aus. Maybe I wanted to see a
>> Australian take on them.
>
>No as in the past you were trolling as your cross-posting showed

I posted to aus.politics,aus.legal with my opening article. It was
Ordog that opened it up to more NGs. Did you forget.....??
>
>> All I got was the normal BS from the
>> terrorist loving crowd.
>
>LOL you wanted an Aus perspective and when they didn't agree with your
>hasbara you get all grumpy. You then cross-post to try and get some
>support from your fellow septics

Did I? WOW You do know the my original post is still there and
Ordog/US-Troll_Exterminator is as well and that shows you to be a
liar.
>
>>
>> They call Americans names well fine. I like most Australians I met
>> while there. Ordog doesn't know that Marxism failed and will never
>> again be.
>
>Personally I believe that Marxism has only introduced in name but like
>Capitalism or a free-market is inherently unstable

Venezuela has show Socialism doesn't work after you run our of working
people to steal from.

"IMF projects Venezuela inflation will hit 1,000,000 percent in 2018.
(Reuters) - Venezuela's inflation rate is likely to top 1,000,000
percent in 2018, an International Monetary Fund official wrote on
Monday, putting it on track to become one of the worst
hyperinflationary crises in modern history.Jul 23, 2018"

Your system is also unstable,
>>
>> People are free to post where they choose.
>
>true but don't ceross0post


I can cross post to up to 6. Your don't know the limit. Though they
do talk about follow-ups. Yet you never mention that to Ordog. WOW.

AMB:

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