Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

JPFO - L.E. Deceipt: CT Police gun confiscation deception

6 views
Skip to first unread message

R. LaCasse

unread,
Jul 12, 2013, 3:15:37 AM7/12/13
to

L.E. DECEIPT


July 10th 2013

CT Police gun confiscation deception



Connecticut State Police & DESPP Using Deception to Confiscate Firearms

Misleading Interpretations and Threats by State Police
result in Permanent Loss of Property

Ammoland -- Published on Monday, July 8th, 2013

Article Source
[http://www.ammoland.com/2013/07/connecticut-state-police-despp-using-deception-to-confiscate-firearms/]

Connecticut Carry

Middletown, Connecticut --The Connecticut State Police through the
Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection have been
sending threatening and misleading letters to Connecticut residents
telling them that they must turn in their firearms to the State
Police without any lawful justification.

In one such example, a resident was the subject of an ex parte
restraining order.

State law clearly states that such an individual is only ineligible
to possess firearms when:

A restraining or protective order of a court of this state that has
been issued against such person, after notice and an opportunity to
be heard has been provided to such person, ... -- 53a-217(a)(3)
[http://www.cga.ct.gov/2011/pub/chap952.htm#Sec53a-217.htm ] and
53a-217c(a)5

Federal law provides that a person is ineligible to possess
firearms when they are:

* subject to a court order that (A) was issued after a hearing of
which such person received actual notice, and at which time such
person had an opportunity to participate ... -- 18 U.S.C. �
922(g)(8) [ http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/18/I/44/922 ]

Instead of following the law and waiting until the resident had
been given notice and an opportunity to be heard as the law
prescribes; the State Police sent a letter threatening arrest if
the resident did not turn over all of their firearms. The
restraining order ended up being dissolved before the resident
became ineligible to possess firearms, but because of the 2013 gun
ban that went into effect 4/4/2013, some of the firearms and
magazines this person possessed can never be transferred back to
them.

Because of the Connecticut State Police and DESPP not knowing or
following the law, a resident of Connecticut may have permanently
lost property that rightfully belongs to him and should have never
been in the possession of the State Police to begin with.

This is yet another case involving the seizure of firearms where
members of the State Police, DESPP and the Special License and
Firearms Unit (SLFU) have been found doing business their way
rather than following the law.

Attorney Rachel Baird [ http://www.rachelbairdlaw.com/ ] is the
attorney investigating this particular instance as well as several
other questionable practices and misunderstandings of existing
laws. She went on to address these in a recent letter to Department
of Emergency Services and Public Protection (DESPP) Commissioner
Reuben Bradford.

"Cases like this demonstrate the fact that experienced members of
law enforcement who are assigned to firearm related cases on a
daily basis lack the required understanding of firearm laws."

Connecticut Carry will continue to work to educate members of the
public and the members of these state agencies as well as local
police departments about the rights of the public and the laws of
the state. We will also work to stop these rogue units from
engaging in abusive behavior towards the public.

More information on this issue can be found on http://ctcarry.com
[http://ctcarry.com/ ].

Connecticut Carry is dedicated to advancing and protecting the
fundamental civil rights of the men and women of Connecticut to
keep and bear arms for defense of themselves and the state as
guaranteed by the United States Constitution and the Constitution
of Connecticut.

Contact:

Richard Burgess

President, Connecticut Carry, Inc

Ph: 203-208-9577

Email: ri...@ctcarry.com

http://ctcarry.com [ http://ctcarry.com/ ]

About Connecticut Carry:

Connecticut Carry is a non-partisan, grassroots, non-profit
organization devoted to educating Connecticut to our rights in
Connecticut. Visit: www.ctcarry.com

Refer to the "Sandy Hook Index
[http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/sandy-hook-index.htm ]" for an
archive collection of valuable material we have shown since the
events at the Newtown Elementary School.

Check out Gun/Murder Statistics:
[http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m2/gun-murder-stats.htm ] A set of
tabulated and graphical data showing relationships between gun
numbers and murders - categorized by alphabetical countries
listing. Useful research material.

Thought for the day -- "Isn't it strange that after a bombing,
everyone blames the bomber ... but after a shooting, the problem is
the Gun ! "



Yours in Freedom, The Liberty Crew at JPFO

Protecting you by creating solutions to destroy "gun control"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--
Triad Productions-Fantalla~EZine~ParaNovel
National Association of Assault Research
(http://mypage.uniserve.com/~vampire-inter/htmlconc.html)

F. Brown

unread,
Jul 12, 2013, 1:40:31 PM7/12/13
to

"R. LaCasse" <n...@propaganda.info> wrote in message
news:t0bvt81rshbnd2u23...@4ax.com...
Responsible for issuing state conceald carry permits the CT State
Police have never been friends of gun owners.
In the mid 90's my son had a minor verbal altercation with his
ex-wife over a piece of sports equiipment he had lent her that
she decided she would keep. Thinking to distract him from trying
to recover his property she filed a complaint with the police dept
saying she was afraid of him because he owned guns. He was
arrested under the state's domestic violence statutes. I obtained
and read the police report and her statements, she never accused
him of threatening her with or without guns, just that he owned them
and she was afraid. Under the statutes anyone accused of any form
of domestic violence has two choices, attend anger management
classes for 4 weeks and a year of probation or a stint in jail. No
exceptions. Chosing the first option my son was required to surrender
his conceald carry permit and had to relinguish his guns. Being a gun
owner and permit holder myself I was aware of stories of gun owners
surrendering firearms to the State Police and then having great difficulty
in getting them back. I was also aware that he could surrender his guns
to a responsible party rather than the State Police. Me.
Completing the requirements and receiving a court order saying his
gun rights were restored we went to the State Police HQ in Meriden CT
to pick up his ccw permit. After showing the order to the receptionist
we waited about a hour until a lieutenant arrived who informed us they
would be holding the permit for another year. I informed him the court
order gave the permit back, he said he didn't care, argue about it and
they would hold it longer.
Back home I caledl a lawyer affialliated with a CT gun group, he said for
a $1,500 fee he would get the permit back. The next day he called
to say we would get the permit in 9 months. I said not acceptable,
the probation was over and the state police had no authority to extend
witholding his permit. The lawyer was not happy but said he would see
what he could do. I said get the permit or return the fee. The next offer
was 3 months, then 1 month, I told the lawyer the next step was for him
to file a complaint with the the gun permit examiners, a three man group
with the power to over rule the State Police. This was on a Thursday
and the next call from the lawyer was to say we could pick up the permit
the following Monday. They kept us waiting 3 hours but we got the permit.
0 new messages