Plagerist in Laser Land
Jon Caywood
From time to time these people show up. If you have ever been to my
page at http://www.1stinterstate.com/~laser/index2.php3 then you know I've
been using this graphic for quite some time(laser cutting the moon in half).
Recently (January 25th) someone created the domain
http://www.laserproducts.info/ and stole my logo. He didn't even have the
grace to redo the text, he simply cut and pasted the font to make it say
what he wanted. My boss graced me with the company lawyer so that will
help solve the problem, however I would like more information about this
person(such as a name) if anyone has any, also check his site and see if he
stole any of your artwork.
Thanks,
Jon
Sam Goldwasser
They used stuff from the Laser FAQ as well but I politely (well more or less
politely) informed them of this it has been resolved without any blood sucking
lawyers getting involved. At least they now acknowledge the source.
I was wondering where I'd seen that logo before. :)
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Jon Caywood
peoples art, when I called him he told me to get a "cease and desist" (so I
started that process) if I wanted the image removed.
"Sam Goldwasser" <s...@saul.cis.upenn.edu> wrote in message
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Jon Caywood
vaporize them from the surface of the planet.
"Jon Caywood" <sar...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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bob
the world how full of bs the guy is... look at his web site... his 'price'
for the generic air cooled argon laser is like $600 to $3000.... what a way
toi nail downt he price!!... his prices on dpss units and diodes are a good
bit higher than alot of other people advertise... sed some traffic to his
competiton, then when he emails ya to complain, tell him to get a 'cease and
dissist'...
Jon Caywood wrote in message
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Adam Aglionby
operates from a P.O. box without a phone number:
Drew Star
PO BOX 7076
KOKOMO
IN
46904-7076
Beleive your congress is currently debating tightening copyright
restrictions, sounds like this guy could require some re-education....
Adam
"Jon Caywood" <sar...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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Scott Bonelli
http://www.redline-lasers.com/home.htm and selling them as his own design.
Scott
Subject: Re: Plagerist in Laser Land
Chris
Gee whiz, I'll have to order one of his absolutely amazing HeNe
lasers. According to his ad, "Red lasers are now solid state for high
power applications, surplus Hene lasers offer 15-40mw of power or
more. A HENE laser is so focused you can actually bounce them off the
lunar reflector (left by the apollo mission on the moon)."
That's a good one :-) Me thinks he's been reading too many comic
books.
My best to all of you honest laserists,
Chris
"Jon Caywood" <sar...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message news:<UMRc8.107463$dh.29...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com>...
Richard Alexander
> Quick visit to www.samspade.org for a whois check, reveals this character
> operates from a P.O. box without a phone number:
>
> Drew Star
> PO BOX 7076
> KOKOMO
> IN
> 46904-7076
I did an Alldomains search, but didn't find terribly much more than you did.
Domain ID:D1413575-LRMS
Domain Name:LASERPRODUCTS.INFO
Created On:25-Jan-2002 22:25:54 UTC
Last Updated On:26-Jan-2002 04:40:41 UTC
Expiration Date:25-Jan-2004 22:25:54 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R122-LRMS
Status:ACTIVE
Status:OK
Registrant ID:C1699363-LRMS
Registrant Name:PSYBERCORE.COM
Registrant Organization:PSYBERCORE.COM
Registrant Street1:PO BOX 7076
Registrant City:KOKOMO
Registrant State/Province:IN
Registrant Postal Code:46904-7076
Registrant Country:US
Registrant FAX:+1.1231231234
Registrant Email:in...@psybercore.com
Admin ID:C1699960-LRMS
Admin Name:Drew ** Star
Admin Street1:PO BOX 7076
Admin City:KOKOMO
Admin State/Province:IN
Admin Postal Code:46904-7076
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.0000000000
Admin Email:in...@PSYBERCORE.COM
Billing ID:C1699363-LRMS
Billing Name:PSYBERCORE.COM
Billing Organization:PSYBERCORE.COM
Billing Street1:PO BOX 7076
Billing City:KOKOMO
Billing State/Province:IN
Billing Postal Code:46904-7076
Billing Country:US
Billing Email:in...@psybercore.com
Tech ID:C1699960-LRMS
Tech Name:Drew ** Star
Tech Street1:PO BOX 7076
Tech City:KOKOMO
Tech State/Province:IN
Tech Postal Code:46904-7076
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.0000000000
Tech Email:in...@PSYBERCORE.COM
Name Server:NS2.HOSTING4U.NET
Craig
the problem. If no one buys from him because of his business practices, he
won't be around long.
"Jon Caywood" <sar...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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L. Michael Roberts
>
> If you post on the laserist list, perhaps you could get more attention to
> the problem. If no one buys from him because of his business practices, he
> won't be around long.
How many people on the laserist are likely to be buying the
products he sells? I would venture pretty few as the people in the
laserist list usually have a few clues :) His site is the digital
equivalent of comic book back page advertising.
<snip>
+==================== L. Michael Roberts =======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Hamilton, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+=================================================================+
Craig
"L. Michael Roberts" <no...@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote in message
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Adam Aglionby
http://www.superscripts.com/dsstoday/
Highlights include "PSYBERCORE CONTRACTED FOR "STAR WARS" RESEARCH"
"Drew Star fans who have copied our site, copied and stolen our code, copied
our business model, copied our style, copied our membership concept"
Ah, guess it takes a plagirist to know one....or should that be fantasist.
LMR`s description of comic book back page advertising is laser guided
accurate, spot on ;-)
Adam
Richard Alexander
> According to his ad, "Red lasers are now solid state for high
> power applications, surplus Hene lasers offer 15-40mw of power or
> more. A HENE laser is so focused you can actually bounce them off the
> lunar reflector (left by the apollo mission on the moon)."
There are several things about his site that raise red flags, apart
from the laser content. It always bothers me when someone pops out of
nowhere; a Google search on "laserproducts" or "laseramazers" did not
turn up any hits. No one has linked to his page. The only off-site
contact information he provides is an apparently unlisted phone number
for an Indianapolis, Indiana suburb. Coincidentally, another company
with a similar name is in his neighborhood (same area code, one that
resulted from an area-code split, so it is smaller and newer than
otherwise), a company called, "Laser Sharp Products" (thanks to
"Anywho.com."
A small-print note at the bottom of his home page states, "A
PSYBERCORE.COM, INC. COMPANY." I've looked over roughly 70% of the
linked-content on psybercore.com. I get the impression that all the
people involved (including management) are young kids (meaning,
teenager to early twenties), ambitious, zealous and cocky. They
probably belong to a charismatic Christian denomination. I think they
would do the right thing if a trusted adult (like their youth pastor)
were to encourage them to do the right thing; they have been
"programmed" to slough off criticism from outsiders, perhaps with some
smart-alek comment.
Sam Goldwasser
polite and although clearly a bit confused, did add the acknowledgement
to the Laser FAQ for the content I found there.
Richard Alexander
more, except now we have a street address:
PSYBERCORE.com
Request: PSYBERCORE.com
Registrant:
Telecore Media International (PSYBERCORE-DOM)
412 North Washington
Kokomo, IN 46902
US
Domain Name: PSYBERCORE.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Star, Drew (AT417) d...@PSYBERCORE.COM
Psybercore.com, Inc.
PO BOX 7076
Kokomo, IN 46904-7076
US
000-000-0000 000-000-0000
Record last updated on 26-Jan-2002.
Record expires on 08-Feb-2005.
Record created on 07-Feb-1998.
Database last updated on 21-Feb-2002 13:13:00 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.HOSTING4U.NET 209.15.2.3
NS2.HOSTING4U.NET 209.15.2.4
Oh, and Drew's own Website (which is psybercore):
Richard Alexander
[snip]
> They probably belong to a charismatic Christian denomination.
Erm, make that Roman Catholic... The link at the bottom of their page
goes directly to http://www.vatican.va/ .
Either way, I did a Google search on "Telecore Media International,"
the company listed as the Psybercore registrant, and found only two
hits, one of which was, "SexSwap 11.20.1999 no.115." (The other,
"http://baracuda.virtualave.net/cgi-bin/sponsor/terms.html ,"
mysteriously disappeared from my Google screen after I visited the
site and returned via the "Back" button). The relevant portion of the
page is half-way down, titled, "401 NEUTRALIZER - PASSWORD HURLER
BLOCKER by Drew Star." Apparently, Mr. Star supplied the site with a
script to protect them from hackers trying to get free access. SexSwap
commented,
"I just want to say thanks to Drew for being so kind and if you are
looking for some of the hottest scripts in the porn industry, check
out
www.superscripts.com/ ."
Oddly enough, I did not find that endorsement on Drew's own site.
Anyway, the appearance so far is that Psybercore may not know how to
use a spell-checker, and may not know a laser from a flashlight, but
they are successful CGI-scripters.
[snip]
Richard Alexander
> FWIW, when I contacted them via their email link, whoever replied was
> polite and although clearly a bit confused, did add the acknowledgement
> to the Laser FAQ for the content I found there.
I might wonder why they are so keen to swipe stuff? Why don't they
credit their sources? Why are they doing this?