Animated Gif to Ilda File
John Ferrick
at this, what is the proceedure to convert it to a Ilda or Pangolin file?
Thanks
John Ferrick
Sitka High School
Andy Baker
of converting a JPEG to a real adobe illustrator file... There are programs
that might do it automatically, but don't even bother. In the every day
world of computer graphics, automatic raster to vector conversion has
sketchy results at best. My guess is that anything that would be created by
such a process would be WAY too complex for a scanner or look like hell.
You're manually going to have to trace it out in whatever program you use to
create your laser patterns. Good luck.
Andy
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Laserlover
Hi John,
I recall a fellow " used to be a programmer at Corel" who I met at the
Laser-FX 1998 conference that had developed software to convert from
various formats to Ilda frames. I think his business name was Rage
Media but can't remember his name.
L. Micheal Roberts at Laser-FX could could probably tell you.
Micheal can you help this person ?
Try visiting "www.laserfx.com" and email him. He's pretty busy so
don't lose your cool waiting for a reply.
Good luck
Rick
JStewart-LVR
ILDA compatible files. It's called Dot Monkey, and further details can be
found on our webpage. http://www.laservisuals.com/monkey.htm
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>>So now that people pointed me to two sited with animations, being really new
>>at this, what is the proceedure to convert it to a Ilda or Pangolin file?
>>
>>Thanks
>>John Ferrick
>>Sitka High School
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> I recall a fellow " used to be a programmer at Corel" who I met at the
> Laser-FX 1998 conference that had developed software to convert from
> various formats to Ilda frames. I think his business name was Rage
> Media but can't remember his name.
> L. Micheal Roberts at Laser-FX could could probably tell you.
> Micheal can you help this person ?
That was Richard Gonsalves who is presently on-tour in Africa and won't
be back in Canada until the end of March. If you contact me at the end
of March, I will forward your request to Richard but I ma not sure if he
is still developing/supporting the software.
>
> Try visiting "www.laserfx.com" and email him. He's pretty busy so
> don't lose your cool waiting for a reply.
>
> Good luck
> Rick
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satisfactory results from it. I finally gave up.... but to be fair to the
good people from down under, I perhaps didn't give it a whole hearted trial
because I needed it to work quickly and didn't want to spend lots of time
making it work. After a couple of hours and wasting about 30 of my 100
frames.. I just had to put it aside... maybe some day I will try again.
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whilst others give okay results. I've never found any auto tracer that is
100% perfect. and no auto tracer will cope with converting very complex or
photorealistic images. If a human would have a hard time converting an
image, then so will the auto converter. However the Dot Monkey does do a
fairly good job at most things. The only thing that really does let it down,
is it's non-standard Windows GUI, which takes a bit of getting used to, as
some of the features are not immediately apparent. So it may well be worth
having another go with the software, experimenting with the settings.
All in all though, especially when taking into account it's low cost, it is
a useful utility to have, and the wide range of artwork it can accept. It
does also have some algorithms in the software that compensates for the
different types of scanners commonly available. We use it quite often, and
generally it does save time, even if the final image sometimes needs the odd
bit of tweaking.
James
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big sticking point for me trying to use it. Since I only got so many images
that I could use it for, I wasn't ready to burn them all up learn what
wasn't apparent.
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once, on a version called DotMonkey Lite. A special version was made for us
which outputs the frames as ILDA files, with the Pangolin Rainbow Colour
Pallet. It doesn't have all the features of the full blown DotMonkey, but
with a price tag of just over $100, it's pretty good what can be done with
it, and there is no limit on how many images you produce, as there is on the
full DotMonkey, which still works on the pay per image idea.
I can understand that if you had paid for a block of images, you would get a
bit fed up wasting them, whilst you were experimenting with the software.
James
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Supposed to get most of the money back when I used it up and turned the key
back in. So about a year and a half later.. when I finally tried it and
wasn't happy I tried to turn it back in and they said "oh, that rebate was
only good for a year". Didn't remember hearing that when I bought it...
so... I just never went back to using it.
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problem. Maybe it is worth asking them about the rebate, still?
The version we use and sell does not have any of these limitations. You can
keep on using it as long as you like.
James
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avail. That is how I found out about the time limit that I never knew
existed. I would gladly trade it for a unlimited light version.. perhaps
that would allow me to play more when I get my laser shop up and going.
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> Your right.. It is the dongle version. I asked them about that rebate
> to no avail. That is how I found out about the time limit that I never
> knew existed. I would gladly trade it for a unlimited light version..
> perhaps that would allow me to play more when I get my laser shop up and
> going.
Huh?!?
Are you saying that when you buy this software you also have to
pay an additional fee each time it's used?
Brian
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JStewart-LVR
The Lite Version, you pay for the software the once, and you can use it as
long and as many times as you like.
The Pro Version, you have to keep "recharging" the dongle, by purchasing
blank frames. Each time you convert and image it reduced the amount of
"blank frames" in the dongle. The idea being that you pay for the how much
artwork you convert.
We generally tend to sell the Lite - unlimited usage version, as it still
has many good features, and can be used as many times as you like.
The thing to remember when purchasing ANY software, you are not buying the
actual software, you are just buying a licence to use it. e.g. Just because
you have a MS Word CDROM or whatever, does not mean the software is yours,
it just means you are licenced by the software vendor to use it. The two
versions of Dot Monkey just provide two different licencing models. With the
Lite version being the more conventional licencing we are all used to with
mass produced software.
James
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> > Your right.. It is the dongle version. I asked them about that rebate
> > to no avail. That is how I found out about the time limit that I never
> > knew existed. I would gladly trade it for a unlimited light version..
> > perhaps that would allow me to play more when I get my laser shop up and
> > going.
>
>
> Huh?!?
>
> Are you saying that when you buy this software you also have to
> pay an additional fee each time it's used?
>
>
> Brian
Actually you buy a number of frames that you can produce..... that is the
price of the software. They give you a dongle encoded with the number of
frames you can output....and when your frame count is out.. that is it. You
have to buy more frames or the software is useless.
What I bought was a trial version that was good for only about 100 uses.
They put a few extra in to get your computer set up. What they were trying
to sell after that was a software that is indeed paid for per frame. I am
not sure anyone else bought into it past the original trial ... but again, I
am not sure. I do know that no one I talked to was real acceptable to the
pay per frame concept.
They are very nice guys and do great work in the industry.. I just didn't
think the software was as easy to use as they showed us at ILDA.. at least
not for me. I wasn't real happy with the outcome of the frames.. but
again.. that could have been my inability to figure it out quickly since I
had limited time to mess with it.
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still have not used any of the full 100 frames and only some of the extra
trial frames if I remember correctly.... since I can't get the promised
rebate I am kind of stuck with an unusable product... at least for me.
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never supplied it in the first place.
I presume the trial deal must have been something that was offered by the
developer direct?, as it's not something that I am aware of.
As I say, we generally sell the Lite version, with it's unlimited usage.
Perhaps we can talk more about this via direct email, and see if there is
something the developer can do in your instance.
Send me a direct email.
James
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I think that the price of the light version is about right
for the complete package.
Consider Flash & 3d converter are common.
Maybe they should reconsider the pricing?
Ed
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developer.
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That is of course up to them..
JStewart-LVR
Often this specialist software seems expensive. But it has to cover the
costs of a complex design and development cycle. All laser software is for a
specialist market, which does not have the volume sales that you would get
with mainstream products.
As it stands the Dot Monkey Lite actually has 90% of the "under the hood"
functionality of the Pro version, so in that respect it is very good value
for money.
James
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<Snipola>
> Just
> because you have a MS Word CDROM or whatever, does not mean the software
> is yours, it just means you are licenced by the software vendor to use
> it.
<Snipola>
But at least I don't have to send Billy Goat a fee each time I save
a file.
Sorry, I just find the whole conecpt of paying for each use, well,
plain stupid. Can you imagine having to pay the maker of your car
a fee every time you start the engine? I can see it now...
"Bob, you're late for work again."
"Yeah, the dongle on my car ran out and I was stuck on the phone
for an hour trying to get it recharged."
JStewart-LVR
> plain stupid. Can you imagine having to pay the maker of your car
> a fee every time you start the engine? I can see it now...
I'm not going to get drawn into a long discussion on different licencing
models for software, as this as going a bit off topic, suffice to say that
the licencing model most people are familiar is the one time fee unlimited
usage licence. You'll find, vendors of specialist software, which normally
has a niche use, and therefore market, will tend to operate different types
of models.
And if you want to use the car as an example, there are many different ways
to have use of a car. e.g. you can buy it outright, or you can lease it for
a period of time, or you can lease it based on the amount of miles you do in
it.....paying for each mile you want to travel in the car.
James
with is that of the one time fee
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> <Snipola>
> > Just
> > because you have a MS Word CDROM or whatever, does not mean the software
> > is yours, it just means you are licenced by the software vendor to use
> > it.
> <Snipola>
>
> But at least I don't have to send Billy Goat a fee each time I save
> a file.
>
>