how to patent

[gramp...@my-deja.com]

does any one know how to patent an idea for use
of a product and how many$$$$ are
involved.....thanks

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[bob]

you can in theory fget somethign patteneted for about 100 bux.. BUT it is
strongly advised to use a pattent attorney to do so, and this will run you
several thousand... Go to the patent and trademark site.. I'm sure they have
some infpormation there for people wanting to 'do it them selves'...

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[Rick Poulin]

If you have the time and patience, you can visit your local
Patent office, do your own search for similar Items, study how
they are formatted since they have to be submitted in a specific
layout or it will be rejected.
Once you've determined that you aren't reinventing the mouse trap
or wheel and nobody else does it exactly the way you do and
offers the savings or distinc advantages over the competiton then
you can consider filing a Patent.
If you don't know what you're doing then you might want to
consider a Patent Lawyer otherwise do your homework well and have
deep pockets.
You will have to pay for an examination once you get your patent
in a presentable pile of paper that satisfies their format.
If you are serious you also want to file internationnal patents
which means more $$$
Lets say you do get a patent which might take anywhere from 6
mths to 2 yrs. You then have to pay yearly maintenance fees and
police infringments yourself. There are unscrupulous companies
that do nothing but ripoff ideas and produce cheap knockoff in
some sweatshop then flood the market with crappy products that
might give your invention a bad name (If you ever get it to
market). Even if you do it yourself , it will still cost you
thousands of dollars and you may never see a cent back on your
investment since you have to sell the idea to some manufacturer
and cut some kinda deal on royalties or outright sale.
What it all boils down to is the patent lawyers and agents make
all the money and you get sucked into the same penniless
blackhole that absorbs too many naive cretins.
Unless you have a completely new invention and are the world
authority and stand to make millions don't bother wasting your
money. Look up the statistics on how many inventions are filed
versus how many made it to market and what the inventor got. Ill
bet less than 1% of the inventions made it to market and the
inventor got enough royalties to keep afloat but not rich, too
many other hands are out there waving for the cash.

Rick

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[Don]

Insted of patent try copyrighting the Item one can do that with out
revailing all the intulectual property to the general public
And I beleve its cheaper

DOn
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[bob]

a copyright for for lack of a better way of putting it, for an artistic
design, ect. a patent is for some sort of engineering, ect
I always thought they were two totally seperate legal mechanisms to protect
for creation, but didnt have much to do with each other

Don wrote in message ...

[Michael Pinneo]

Technology can't be protected through copyright. Technology can be
protected through patents, which are a time-limited legal monopoly, or
through trade secret means, which don't protect against independent
invention of the technology by others, but can go on forever. Trade
secret protection has worked great for Coca-Cola for about a century.

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[Adam Aglionby]

Save yourself the walk;

http://patent.womplex.ibm.com/

Most US patents from 1971 on, available online.
Its truly reverse engineering paradise,its one thing to get it granted its
another to afford to sue to,enforce.

Adam

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[Steve Roberts]

bob <nom...@nospam.com> wrote in article
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> a copyright for for lack of a better way of putting it, for an artistic
> design, ect. a patent is for some sort of engineering, ect
> I always thought they were two totally seperate legal mechanisms to
protect
> for creation, but didnt have much to do with each other
>

Yeah, but it works great for circuit diagrams and circuit board layouts,
and that can lead to a good steppingstone for a lawyer if somebody copies
your boards or publishes a diagram of your design
Steve Roberts

[bob]

copies your board..
yes..
but i doubt it take s agenious to realise that this might cause one to get
into legal problems...
and take the cautionary steps of rerouting a few traces, ect....
then again..
people do stupid stiff all the time

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