Ancient European Culture originated in a “fuller and richer form of the Hindu Vedic Civilization”

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Ancient European Culture originated in a “fuller and richer form of the
Vedic Civilisation”

Aparna Sridhar January 15, 2020

Eighty year old Professor Nicholas Kazanas is a Greek Scholar of
Sanskrit and Vedic civilisation and a long-time opponent of the Aryan
Invasion Theory (AIT).

While Western scholars “posit as the urheimat or original habitation and
place of diffusion of this culture some area in south-eastern Europe
(Russian steppes, the Caucasus etc, anywhere from the Balkans to the
Baltic sea),” Dr Kazanas himself firmly believes that linguistic and
literary and recent genetic evidence establish “that the ancient
cultures of Hittites, Greeks, Italians, Germanic peoples, Celts, Slavs
and Baltic peoples, to mention the more prominent ones, originated in a
much fuller and richer form of the Vedic civilisation, that is now lost
and cannot be reconstructed but flourished in Saptasindhu.”


Part A of interview with Professor Kazanas. Responses have not been edited.

How did your interest in India first start. Was it academic or
socio-cultural?

Prof Nicholas Kazanas: My interest in India began in my early 30’s when
I was acquainted with the Upanishads and the Vedānta philosophy in my
study of Philosophy. I had earlier studied English Literature at
University College, London. By then I was also a follower of Jagadguru
Shri Shantananda Sarasvati, Śankarācārya of Jyotir Maṭha (North). So I
changed and went to study Sanskrit at the School of Oriental and African
Studies, London University. I had to read the Upanishads in the
original. I subsequently did postgraduate studies in Poona and Varanasi.
I added to my interests the Rigvedic hymns. Some of these help to define
the protohistory of India, others contain profound Vedantic
philosophical thought and others are exquisite poetry. In fact, there is
not a single good poetic aspect in Greek, Latin or Germanic (or in
modern) poetry that is not found in the RV. Moreover, some hymns state
clearly that all divinities are expressions of That One tad-ekam (RV
10.129.2; 1.164.46; etc).

To be frank, my interest in India is not so much in the modern country
and its culture or religions but in the source and preservation of the
Vedic Tradition which teaches fundamentally that All comes from the Will
of Brahman and is that Substance all the time and that the Self of man
is that same Brahman.

What are the steps you are taking to get a 'fresh thinking' on all
matters of Indian proto-history" all over the world as is being done in
your institute - Omilos Meliton?

Professor Nicholas Kazanas: For many years I published articles in
learned Journals and gave many talks in Conferences and in Universities
in India and the West arguing that the Vedic people were indigenous and
not immigrants or invaders, appearing at 1700 or 2000 BCE. They were
nomadic but also well-settled in the valleys of the old Sarasvati and
the Sindhu rivers, in what should be known as the Saptasindhu, the land
of the Seven Rivers, as seems to have been known in some hymns of the
RV. I gathered many of these articles in two books, published by Aditya
Prakashan, New Delhi (2009, 2015). I think I helped some, not many,
Westerners and Indians change to this view. It was most dismaying to see
so many learned Indians ignoring data that to me were so obvious and
indisputable and adhering to the Aryan Invasion/Immigration Theory. I
can understand communists and Christians promoting passionately the AIT
but not so many other scholars nurtured in the native traditions. For
the last two years I have ceased writing and lecturing on the subject. I
felt that at 80 I was getting on and had to give more time to my School
in Athens and our pursuit of practical Vedānta. I emphasise that this
has been and continues to be my primary concern.

What is the status of Indology study in Greece? Has the popularity
increased or decreased. Which are the main areas of interest and why?

Professor Nicholas Kazanas: The status of Indology in Greece is almost
non-existent. There is a Department of Hindi in Athens University but
nothing more. Few people attend - and those mainly to learn Hindi for
commercial and other financial reasons. I think much of the cost is
covered by the Indian government.

Very few people are interested in Indian culture beyond modern music and
dancing and going on tours and holidays to various places in India, or
the dinners and very occasional presentations of music and dancing
organised by an Indo-Hellenic Society.

I myself gave three public lectures every year for several consecutive
years on affinities between Greek and Indic cultures (yoga, religion,
philosophy, epics, the arts, etc) but, in fact, few people attended and
not once anybody from the Indian Embassy or from the University or from
the Indo-Hellenic Society. Frankly, the Indian Embassy has never shown
interest in promoting the traditional Indian culture. I doubt this will
change.



How do Greeks see India? What does India mean to them?

Professor Nicholas Kazanas: For most Greeks India is just another
country somewhere far in South-East Asia with exotic customs and arts,
curious religions, colourful fabrics and much poverty - and it was
invaded in ancient times by Alexander the Great and possibly visited by
Pythagoras even earlier. There is a pretty late legend that god Dionusos
came from Greece and civilised India and all Far East, even Japan, at c
7000 BCE (Dionusiaka, Nonnus of Alexandria, c 400 CE).

But as I wrote just above, the main interest is in holidays, music and
dance - and food (Indian restaurants, Pakistani, Bangla-deshi etc have
increased, thanks to immigrants also)! However, I suppose all this is
true of most other Western countries.

What were the connections between the Vedic people/civilisation and the
Greek people/civilisation?

Professor Nicholas Kazanas: I don't see any evidence of any early
connexion (without precluding it totally) between Greece and Vedic India
before Alexander’s visit in the late 4th cent. BCE. The cultural
affinities are strong but fragmentary and could best be explained by
common descent from an original unitary source.

Scholars in the West speak and write of a Proto-Indo-European culture
(or civilisation) and, apart from those who like myself propound the
indigenist view, they posit as the urheimat or original habitation and
place of diffusion of this culture some area in south-eastern Europe
(Russian steppes, the Caucasus etc, anywhere from the Balkans to the
Baltic sea) except the larger Saptasindhu expanse.

I firmly believe, on the available linguistic and literary evidence and
genetic material of the decades after 2000 CE, that the ancient cultures
of Hittites, Greeks, Italians, Germanic peoples, Celts, Slavs and Baltic
peoples, to mention the more prominent ones, originated in a much fuller
and richer form of the Vedic civilisation, that is now lost and cannot
be reconstructed but flourished in Saptasindhu.

The Greek and Vedic cultures have in common many linguistic features
(more than other groups) and the idea of the Absolute One, of
reincarnation, of lower and higher education, of ethical and
meditational practices that lead to Self-realisation or Self-knowledge
(ātma-jñāna or brahma-vidyā) and many other philosophical and social
doctrines. In some papersI have described at length the affinities of
the two cultures (e.g. Greek Philosophy up to Aristotle in Golden Chain
of Civilisations by G. Pande (ed), PHISPC, Centre for Studies in
Civilisation, 2007, N. Delhi; now revised and republished in In the
Beginning by N. Kazanas, Aditya, 2019, N. Delhi).

But in every case the Vedic formulation is much fuller and far more helpful.

What are the areas in which research is being done and what are the
areas in which it needs to be done?

Professor Nicholas Kazanas: Having for some years withdrawn from
mainstream academic life, I don’t know for sure all the research that is
being done in India and the West regarding Indic studies and would not
like to comment on this. I can say, however, that all studies based on
the wretched AIT are bound to contain large areas of error.

I helped Prof Mrs Soma Basu of Rabindra Bharati Univ. of Kolkata in
bringing out a new edition (with translation in English and with copious
grammatical and literary notes) of a Buddhist work Supriya Sārthavāha
Jātaka, part of Bhadrakalpāvadāna, composed in what is known as Hybrid
Sanskrit, after Kṣemendra’s Avadānaśataka, and found in various
manuscripts. Such efforts are plainly very useful.

Research is necessary in many areas. But certain preconditions are
required - one of them being the removal of the dates imposed by the AIT
and, especially, ascribing the RV to the 4th at least millennium BCE.
This will yield astonishing perspectives for many disciplines.

Another useful study would be to combine the terms of the traditional
Paninian grammar with those of the traditional Western approach. This
would benefit greatly all students of Sanskrit.

Indian linguists, or some of them, should study and know Comparative
Indo-European linguistics since this has become an important branch in
the West.

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HOW DOES IRRATIONALITY TAKE ON RATIONALITY (PI = 22 letters / 7 days)
excepting there is an instantiation of consciousness within temporality

STONEHENGE

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PROPOSITION: #5 (#0 - QUANTUM MECHANICS) + #6 (#364) + #7 (#312) + #8
(#273) OF RATIONAL PI

#1 + #2 = #3 <-- MICROCOSM
#3 + #4 = #7 <-- MACROCOSM OF TEN COMMANDMENTS
#5 (#0) + #6 = #11
#7 + #8 = #15

#3 + #7 + #11 + #15 = #36 [#111 / #666]

#6 + #7 + #8 = #21 - AUTONOMOUS PRINCIPLE {LIABILITY?} + #TAU {#5 (#0)}
AS 22 HEBREW LETTERS

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THE NECESSITY IN THE VIEWING OF ANY DIALECTIC WITHIN TERMS OF ONTOLOGY
AS BEING A LOGICAL SYLLOGISM {#2184 / 6 = #364 - PRINCIPLE OF ENQUIRY /
7 = #312 - PRINCIPLE OF CONTRADICTION / 8 = #273 - SYNCRETIC PRINCIPLE}
CONVEYING A CATEGORICAL IMPERATIVE:

GIVEN:

#434: IF #LAMED {@182 = 12 SEPTEMBER 2001} THEN
#SHIN {@191 = #21 - AUTONOMOUS NATURE {PRINCIPLE OF LIABILITY: @115 =
DIGNITY ROYAL / ONTIC TEMPORAL MAPPING}}
#NUN {@41 = @184 - I PUT NO CHECK UPON THE WATER IN ITS FLOW {%36}}
#AYIN {@186 - I AM NOT ONE OF INCONSTANT MIND {%31}}
#YOD {(@180 - I COMMIT NOT ADULTERY WITH ANOTHER'S WIFE {%19: SECTION
VII})}
ENDIF

WHAT ARE THESE QUANTUM?

#2184 / #6 = #364
#2184 / #7 = #312
#2184 / #8 = #273

NATURE:

#364 - @182 = @182
#364 - @191 = @173 - I AM NOT GIVEN TO UNNATURAL LUST {#27}
#364 - @115 = #249 (@246 - @41 x 6 + #3)
#364 - @184 = @180
#364 - @186 = @178 (@1 - SOVEREIGN)
#364 - @180 = @184

NURTURE:

#312 - @182 = @130 <— I AM NOT EVIL MINDED {%3} AS MENS REA {#334}
#312 - @191 = #121 (HETEROS PROTOTYPE #EIGHT: #120 + #1 - SOVEREIGN)
#312 - @115 = #197 (HETEROS PROTOTYPE #ONE: #297 - #197 = #100)
#312 - @184 = #128 (2 x #64: BINOMIAL INTEROPERABILITY)
#312 - @186 = #126 (#123 - JUDGEMENT SENSIBILITY: {#441 + #3 (@ONTIC:
#123 - JUDGMENT SENSIBILITY) = #444 - COMBAT OF SPORT})
#312 - @180 = #132 (TORAH PROTOTYPE #SEVEN: #396)

SYNCRETIC:

#273 - @182 = #91 (#10 - KINGDOM: #91 - #10 = #81 - SOVEREIGN
JUXTAPOSITION PRINCIPLE)
#273 - @191 = @82 / #491 - SECTION IX <— TERMS OF CONTINUITY [NOTE @1]
#273 - @115 = @158: #237 - USE OF FORCE HIERARCHY FOR @82 / #491 -
SECTION IX <— TERMS OF CONTINUITY INTEROPERABILITY
#273 - @184 = #89 (#81 - SOVEREIGN JUXTAPOSITION PRINCIPLE / #CHETH {#8
- TRANSFORMING NATURE / #5 - ACT OF NATURE}
#273 - @186 = #87 (#81 - SOVEREIGN JUXTAPOSITION PRINCIPLE / @6 - FORM
OF NATURE / @3 - NATURE SURMOUNTS NATURE = #1 + #2 + #3)
#273 - @180 = #93 (#93 - #81 - SOVEREIGN JUXTAPOSITION PRINCIPLE = #12 -
AUTONOMOUS NATURE)

SECTION VII: AND WE DO HEREBY DECLARE OUR PLEASURE TO BE THAT, IN THE
EVENT OF DEATH, #273 - *INCAPACITY*, REMOVAL, OR ABSENCE OF OUR SAID
GOVERNOR GENERAL OUT OF OUR SAID COMMONWEALTH, AND ALL AND EVERY THE
POWERS AND AUTHORITIES HEREIN GRANTED TO HIM SHALL UNTIL OUR FURTHER
PLEASURE IS SIGNIFIED THEREIN, BE VESTED IN SUCH PERSON AS MAY BE
APPOINTED BY US UNDER OUR SIGN MANUAL AND SIGNET TO BE OUR LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR OF OUR SAID COMMONWEALTH: OR IF THERE SHALL BE NO SUCH
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IN OUR SAID COMMONWEALTH, THEN IN SUCH PERSON OR
PERSONS AS MAY BE APPOINTED BY US UNDER OUR SIGN MANUAL AND SIGNET TO
ADMINISTER THE GOVERNMENT OF THE SAME. NO SUCH POWERS OR AUTHORITIES
SHALL VEST IN SUCH LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, OR SUCH OTHER PERSON OR PERSONS,
UNTIL HE OR THEY SHALL HAVE TAKEN THE OATHS APPOINTED TO BE TAKEN BY THE
GOVERNOR GENERAL OF OUR SAID COMMONWEALTH, AND IN THE MANNER PROVIDED BY
THE INSTRUCTIONS ACCOMPANYING THESE OUR LETTERS PATENT.

NOTE @1:
#21 (SECTION IX: #491 - PRINCIPLE OF CONTINUITY: @84 + @86 + @102 + @104
+ @115 = PATER) *SHIH*
#20 (SECTION VIII: OBEDIENT, AIDING, ASSISTING UNTO #2184 - GOVERNOR
GENERAL) *CHIN*
#71 (WORLDVIEW [#205 / #164] OF QUEEN VICTORIA'S LETTERS PATENT: #71 +
#1 + #11 + #21 = @104 / @491 - PRINCIPLE OF CONTINUITY) *CHIH*
#27 - DUTIES (18 TO 22 APRIL) *SHIH*

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SEE ALSO AS RELATIONSHIP: *INVALIDATING* {Perennial philosophy (HETEROS
{#390 - ROBBERS} v’s HOMOIOS {#391 - STEWARDS OF GOD’S HOUSE} THEORY OF
NUMBER) as universal of right and wrong...} *THE* *ORTHODOX* *AND*
*ROMAN* *CATHOLIC* *CHURCH'S* *CLAIM* {#390 as 1, #100, #80, #1, #3, #5,
#200 as harpax (G727): {#11 as #242} 1) rapacious, ravenous; 2) a
extortioner, a robber} *TO* *JUBILEE2000* *AS* *BEING* *DELUSIONAL*
*AND* *FRAUDULENT*

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May, 2000 - This report is prepared in response to a TP00/55 as a Notice
of an Application for Planning Permit

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SEE ALSO: HYPOSTASIS AS DAO OF NATURE (Chinese: ZIRAN) / COURSE (Greek:
TROCHOS) OF NATURE (Greek: GENESIS) [James 3:6]

Chinese HAN Dynasty (206 BCE - 220CE) Hexagon Trigrams to Tetragram
assignments proposed by Yang Hsiung (53BCE - 18CE) which by 4BCE
(translation published within English as first European language in
1993), first appeared in draft form as a meta-thesis titled T'AI HSUAN
CHING {ie. Canon of Supreme Mystery} on Natural Divination associated
with the theory of number, annual seasonal chronology and astrology
reliant upon the seven visible planets as cosmological mother image and
the zodiac.

It shows the ZIRAN as the DAO of NATURE / COURSE-trochos OF
NATURE-genesis [James 3:6] as HYPOSTATIS comprising #81 trinomial
tetragrammaton x 4.5 day = #364.5 day / year as HOMOIOS THEORY OF NUMBER
which is an amalgam of the 64 hexagrams as binomial trigrams / 81 as
trinomial tetragrammaton rather than its encapsulated contrived use as
the microcosm to redefine the macrocosm as the quintessence of the
Pythagorean [Babylonian] as binomial canon of transposition as HETEROS
THEORY OF NUMBER.

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The Charter of Human Rights and Responsibilities No. 43 of Act 2006
defines a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN BEING” and the question is, if it is
permissible to extend this definition to be a "PERSON MEANS A HUMAN
BEING AS A CONSCIOUS REALITY OF HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T] WHO IS INSTANTIATED
WITHIN THE TEMPORAL REALITY AS THEN THE CAUSE FOR REASONING AND
RATIONALITY."

That my mathematical theoretical noumenon defines the meta-descriptor
prototypes which are prerequisite to the BEING of HOMO[iOS] SAPIEN[T] as
EXISTENCE / *OUSIA*.

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After all the ENNEAD of THOTH and not the Roman Catholic Eucharist,
expresses an Anthropic Cosmological Principle which appears within its
geometric conception as being equivalent to the Pythagorean
TETRAD/TETRACTYS.