na idhar udhar ki tu baat kar, ye bataa ki kaarvaan kyo.n luTaa - who is the writer of this couplet

[v]

I was watching a lecture by prof gopi chand narang on ghalib. who said that ghalib was most quoted in the indian parliament. i dont remember a single one by ghalib from all the debates that i have watched on tv. i feel iqbal deserves that award. in any case, there was one couplet in parliament a few years back

na idhar udhar ki tu baat kar, ye bataa ki kaarvaan kyon luTaa
mujhe rahzanon se gilaa nahiin, teri rahbari kaa sawaal hai

i remember reading then that it was by iqbal. can anyone confirm the name of the writer and if you can share the full ghazal, i shall be grateful.

thanks in advance

ravi

[vij...@gmail.com]

I have gone through complete works of Iqbal, looking for lines ending in 'luTaa' and 'sawaal hai' in proximity and couldn't find any matching this set of requirements. So, it is unlikely to be Iqbal.

I have a feeling that Balvinder ji will have the answer but he is in the habit of making us wait:-)

Best,

Vijay

[Naseer]

maiN bhii Vijay Jii kii baat se muttafiq huuN. mere xayaal meN yih shi3r Iqbal kaa nahiiN. aage dekhte haiN Balvinder Jii kyaa inkishaaf karte haiN.

xair-andesh,

Naseer Jii

[v]

on this note (of parliament couplets), i am reminded of a book by khushwant singh where he mentioned his trips to pakistan. he said that he watched a debate in the national assembly where every speaker mentioned this couplet. finally an exasperated speaker stepped in and said that let us for the purpose of this discussion assume that this couplet has been quoted. so future speakers can just skip the couplet and get to the point.

i am unable to remember the couplet. does anyone remember.

[nirendr...@gmail.com]

Perhaps Firaq Jalalpuri as per posts on internet.

[Raj Kumar]

On Saturday, February 21, 2015 at 7:05:15 AM UTC-8, v wrote:


> on this note (of parliament couplets), i am reminded of a book by khushwant singh where he mentioned his trips to pakistan. he said that he watched a debate in the national assembly where every speaker mentioned this couplet. finally an exasperated speaker stepped in and said that let us for the purpose of this discussion assume that this couplet has been quoted. so future speakers can just skip the couplet and get to the point.
>
> i am unable to remember the couplet. does anyone remember.

***janaab Ravi sahib:

I cannot answer the question you have posed today but if you allow me to go back to your first post in this thread I might be able to make some worthwhile comments. More importantly, I want to give you an example of a Ghalib couplet quoted in the Indian parliament. You wrote***

"I was watching a lecture by prof gopi chand narang on ghalib. who said that ghalib was most quoted in the indian parliament. i dont remember a single one by ghalib from all the debates that i have watched on tv. i feel iqbal deserves that award. in any case, there was one couplet in parliament a few years back

na idhar udhar ki tu baat kar, ye bataa ki kaarvaan kyon luTaa
mujhe rahzanon se gilaa nahiin, teri rahbari kaa sawaal hai

i remember reading then that it was by iqbal. can anyone confirm the name of the writer and if you can share the full ghazal, i shall be grateful".

***I happen to have watched a segment on TV that pertained to the question/answer period in the Indian parliament during the time when Manmohan Singh was the Prime Minister and Sushma Swaraj the Leader of the Opposition. After asking a loaded question, SS quoted the very she’r you have mentiond here. The she’r flew like a swift arrow towards MMS, who was almost stunned.

Later, in his response, MMS started his answer by quoting Ghalib’s she’r

ham ko un se vafaa ki hai ummeed
jo nahiiN jaante vafaa kyaa hai

The she’r fell flat in comparison with the jibe thrown by SS, partly because the contents of this she’r weren’t so relevant to the question posed by her or to the she’r she had quoted, partly because MMS’s delivery was no match for SS’s delivery, and partly because MMS quoted the first line of this she’r incorrectly as

ham ko un se hai vafaa ki umeed

which unsurprisingly lacked the ‘sur-taal’ of the original.

In any case, I felt sorry for my old friend MMS, who was my classmate at the Hindu College, Amritsar during the years 1950-52.

Raj Kumar***

[Naseer]

On Monday, 15 April 2019 16:25:14 UTC+1, nirend...@gmail.com wrote:
> Perhaps Firaq Jalalpuri as per posts on internet.

Yes, this seems to be the case. Thank you Nerendra Jii.

http://mazameen.com/book-review/%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%81%D9%84%DB%81-%DA%A9%DB%8C%D9%88%DA%BA-%D9%84%D9%B9%D8%A7%D8%9F.html

Naseer

[Naseer]

This couplet can be found on Youtube. I asked about the poet and this is the reply I received from the poet's son Naiyar Jafri.

"Mr Naseer .... this sher was written by my dad Shahab Jafri way back in 50s and it was first quoted in Indian Parliament by Maulana Abul Kalam Azad in the presence of Jawaharlal Nehru.... it is on record in Parliament Gazette.... this Firaq Jalalpuri happens to be some shadow name of a chor shair who has usurped literary works of some great poets and put them on internet.... I have lodged a complaint with IshqUrdu as well as most ppl are taking wrong info from their site".

This shi3r is one off shi3r and is found in his book called "Suuraj kaa Shahr" on page 174 and it is.....

tuu idhar udhar kii nah baat kar, yih bataa kih qaafile kyoN luTe
terii rah-barii kaa savaal hai hameN raah-zan se Gharaz nahiiN!

Shahaab Ja'fari

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Naseer

[Naseer]

Sorry, forgot to post the Youtube link and comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe2b5OM1Rhs

Naseer