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Irfan Abid
Jan 1, 2022, 8:09:04 PM1/1/22
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aadaab, dosto!
aap sab ko nayaa saal bahut bahut mubaarak ho!
is saal kii shuruu’aat par Ameer Qazalbash kii zameen meN ek taazah Ghazal pesh-e-Khidmat hai. mulaahizah farmaaiye aur apnii raae se navaaziye.
Ghazal
ufuq kii kokh se suuraj kaa nuur niklegaa
ki shab ke baad saveraa zaruur niklegaa
yih chaahtaa huuN, bhiRaa duuN diye ko tuufaaN se
mire damaaGh kaa kaise futuur niklegaa
jahaaN pe aah bharii hai avaam-e-be.kas ne
vahiiN pe shaah ke sar kaa Ghuruur niklegaa
usii ke haath lagegaa suraaGh hastii kaa
jo apnii zaat ke zindaaN se duur niklegaa
na karte jurm kaa iqbaal ham to kyaa karte
“hameN yaqiiN thaa, hamaaraa qusuur niklegaa”
Khudaa ne aql bhii baKhshii hai rokne ke liye
use Khabar thii ki dil naa.sabuur niklegaa
yih jaante to milaate na aaNkh ham us se
ki ik nigaah meN itnaa suruur niklegaa!
mirii nazar ko vuh jalvah dikhaayegaa kis din?
mire naseeb meN kab koh-e-tuur niklegaa?
tirii hii zaat se nisbat hai zindagii ko mirii
so dam bhii aa ke tire hii huzuur niklegaa
sivaaye zehr ke maaNgegaa aur kyaa aaKhir
saraab-e-zeest se thak kar jo chuur niklegaa
mile na gar mire alfaaz meN to phir :Abid:
jo mudda’aa hai vuh bain-as-sutuur niklegaa!
niyaazmand,
Irfan :Abid:
aap sab ko nayaa saal bahut bahut mubaarak ho!
is saal kii shuruu’aat par Ameer Qazalbash kii zameen meN ek taazah Ghazal pesh-e-Khidmat hai. mulaahizah farmaaiye aur apnii raae se navaaziye.
Ghazal
ufuq kii kokh se suuraj kaa nuur niklegaa
ki shab ke baad saveraa zaruur niklegaa
yih chaahtaa huuN, bhiRaa duuN diye ko tuufaaN se
mire damaaGh kaa kaise futuur niklegaa
jahaaN pe aah bharii hai avaam-e-be.kas ne
vahiiN pe shaah ke sar kaa Ghuruur niklegaa
usii ke haath lagegaa suraaGh hastii kaa
jo apnii zaat ke zindaaN se duur niklegaa
na karte jurm kaa iqbaal ham to kyaa karte
“hameN yaqiiN thaa, hamaaraa qusuur niklegaa”
Khudaa ne aql bhii baKhshii hai rokne ke liye
use Khabar thii ki dil naa.sabuur niklegaa
yih jaante to milaate na aaNkh ham us se
ki ik nigaah meN itnaa suruur niklegaa!
mirii nazar ko vuh jalvah dikhaayegaa kis din?
mire naseeb meN kab koh-e-tuur niklegaa?
tirii hii zaat se nisbat hai zindagii ko mirii
so dam bhii aa ke tire hii huzuur niklegaa
sivaaye zehr ke maaNgegaa aur kyaa aaKhir
saraab-e-zeest se thak kar jo chuur niklegaa
mile na gar mire alfaaz meN to phir :Abid:
jo mudda’aa hai vuh bain-as-sutuur niklegaa!
niyaazmand,
Irfan :Abid:
Zoya
Jan 5, 2022, 5:32:57 PM1/5/22
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On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 7:09:04 PM UTC-6, Irfan Abid wrote:
> aadaab, dosto!
aadaab, Irfan sahib,
It is wonderful to read your new ghazal in the new year. Your poetry usually makes me pause and think. I am going to write down the thoughts that spontaneously flow through my mind while reading your asha'ar. ummiid hai aap meri baatoN ko daad samajh kar qubuul kareNge. :)
> aap sab ko nayaa saal bahut bahut mubaarak ho!
Khuda kare k yeh saal sab ke liye mubaarak saabit ho. I am glad 2021 is behind us.
> is saal kii shuruu’aat par Ameer Qazalbash kii zameen meN ek taazah Ghazal pesh-e-Khidmat hai. mulaahizah farmaaiye aur apnii raae se navaaziye.
> Ghazal
> ufuq kii kokh se suuraj kaa nuur niklegaa
> ki shab ke baad saveraa zaruur niklegaa
Amen.
> yih chaahtaa huuN, bhiRaa duuN diye ko tuufaaN se
> mire damaaGh kaa kaise futuur niklegaa
Go for it! And Now I am thinking of that old old song, you can guess which one. "yeh kahaani hai diye ki aur tuufaan ki....." :-)
Q: I always thought it was 'fituur'. Can it go either way?
> jahaaN pe aah bharii hai avaam-e-be.kas ne
> vahiiN pe shaah ke sar kaa Ghuruur niklegaa
Hope so.
> usii ke haath lagegaa suraaGh hastii kaa
> jo apnii zaat ke zindaaN se duur niklegaa
Irfan sahib, I really like this she'r and the thought behind it. "zaat ke zindaaN se duur", profound.
> na karte jurm kaa iqbaal ham to kyaa karte
> “hameN yaqiiN thaa, hamaaraa qusuur niklegaa”
Yup. "usii ka shahr, vahii muddaii, vahii munsif........".
aap ne bahut Khuub girah lagaai hai.
> Khudaa ne aql bhii baKhshii hai rokne ke liye
> use Khabar thii ki dil naa.sabuur niklegaa
True. "achchaa hai dil ke paas rahe paasbaan-e-aql, lekin........" :-))
It is good to have a 'thinking heart', but if there is a tussle, I usually go with the heart!
> yih jaante to milaate na aaNkh ham us se
> ki ik nigaah meN itnaa suruur niklegaa!
Nice. Happens. "dil se tirii nigaah jigar tak utar gayii.....".
> mirii nazar ko vuh jalvah dikhaayegaa kis din?
> mire naseeb meN kab koh-e-tuur niklegaa?
koh-e-tuur??? You will have to wait, maybe forever.
> tirii hii zaat se nisbat hai zindagii ko mirii
> so dam bhii aa ke tire hii huzuur niklegaa
So poetic! " aakhiri hichkii tire zaanuN pe aaye......" :)
> sivaaye zehr ke maaNgegaa aur kyaa aaKhir
> saraab-e-zeest se thak kar jo chuur niklegaa
"bane ye zehr hii vajh-e-shifaa jo tuu chaahe........"
> mile na gar mire alfaaz meN to phir :Abid:
> jo mudda’aa hai vuh bain-as-sutuur niklegaa!
Irfan sahib, I had to really think about 'bain-as-sutuur'. The individual words 'bain' and 'satr (pl sutuur)' are familiar to me, but I don't know this kind of compounding. Wil you please explain 'as' to me, and how it is generally used? Arabic? Lesson please. Thanks for adding to my vocabulary. I now have to reread all the lines in this ghazal to find the real 'purpose' behind the words. :-)
> niyaazmand,
> Irfan :Abid:
Oh, and based on the matlaa, this was supposed to be a 'positive' ghazal, springing hope for the coming year, right?? :)
Thanks, for everything,
_________Zoya
> aadaab, dosto!
aadaab, Irfan sahib,
It is wonderful to read your new ghazal in the new year. Your poetry usually makes me pause and think. I am going to write down the thoughts that spontaneously flow through my mind while reading your asha'ar. ummiid hai aap meri baatoN ko daad samajh kar qubuul kareNge. :)
> aap sab ko nayaa saal bahut bahut mubaarak ho!
> is saal kii shuruu’aat par Ameer Qazalbash kii zameen meN ek taazah Ghazal pesh-e-Khidmat hai. mulaahizah farmaaiye aur apnii raae se navaaziye.
> Ghazal
> ufuq kii kokh se suuraj kaa nuur niklegaa
> ki shab ke baad saveraa zaruur niklegaa
> yih chaahtaa huuN, bhiRaa duuN diye ko tuufaaN se
> mire damaaGh kaa kaise futuur niklegaa
Q: I always thought it was 'fituur'. Can it go either way?
> jahaaN pe aah bharii hai avaam-e-be.kas ne
> vahiiN pe shaah ke sar kaa Ghuruur niklegaa
> usii ke haath lagegaa suraaGh hastii kaa
> jo apnii zaat ke zindaaN se duur niklegaa
> na karte jurm kaa iqbaal ham to kyaa karte
> “hameN yaqiiN thaa, hamaaraa qusuur niklegaa”
aap ne bahut Khuub girah lagaai hai.
> Khudaa ne aql bhii baKhshii hai rokne ke liye
> use Khabar thii ki dil naa.sabuur niklegaa
It is good to have a 'thinking heart', but if there is a tussle, I usually go with the heart!
> yih jaante to milaate na aaNkh ham us se
> ki ik nigaah meN itnaa suruur niklegaa!
> mirii nazar ko vuh jalvah dikhaayegaa kis din?
> mire naseeb meN kab koh-e-tuur niklegaa?
> tirii hii zaat se nisbat hai zindagii ko mirii
> so dam bhii aa ke tire hii huzuur niklegaa
> sivaaye zehr ke maaNgegaa aur kyaa aaKhir
> saraab-e-zeest se thak kar jo chuur niklegaa
> mile na gar mire alfaaz meN to phir :Abid:
> jo mudda’aa hai vuh bain-as-sutuur niklegaa!
> niyaazmand,
> Irfan :Abid:
Oh, and based on the matlaa, this was supposed to be a 'positive' ghazal, springing hope for the coming year, right?? :)
Thanks, for everything,
_________Zoya
Dinesh Shenoy
Jan 5, 2022, 8:25:58 PM1/5/22
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On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 6:09:04 PM UTC-7, Irfan Abid wrote:
> aadaab, dosto!
>
> aap sab ko nayaa saal bahut bahut mubaarak ho!
>
> is saal kii shuruu’aat par Ameer Qazalbash kii zameen meN ek taazah Ghazal pesh-e-Khidmat hai. mulaahizah farmaaiye aur apnii raae se navaaziye.
Irfan sahib,
> aadaab, dosto!
>
> aap sab ko nayaa saal bahut bahut mubaarak ho!
>
> is saal kii shuruu’aat par Ameer Qazalbash kii zameen meN ek taazah Ghazal pesh-e-Khidmat hai. mulaahizah farmaaiye aur apnii raae se navaaziye.
Like I have repeatedly mentioned before, I read ALUP messages religiously but, some posts compel me to respond here.
I have always LOVED your GHazals. You (mostly) use simple words to convey profound thoughts, which I resonate to.
While I liked most of the ashaar in the attempt, these below were particularly touching/inspirational.
jahaaN pe aah bharii hai avaam-e-be.kas ne
vahiiN pe shaah ke sar kaa Ghuruur niklegaa
usii ke haath lagegaa suraaGh hastii kaa
jo apnii zaat ke zindaaN se duur niklegaa
mile na gar mire alfaaz meN to phir :Abid:
jo mudda’aa hai vuh bain-as-sutuur niklegaa!
Dinesh
P.S : Zoya sahiba ... I too was thinking of most of the ones that you mentioned as "this reminds me of" ... ashaar :)
Irfan Abid
Jan 7, 2022, 7:53:45 PM1/7/22
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On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 5:32:57 PM UTC-5, Zoya wrote:
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 7:09:04 PM UTC-6, Irfan Abid wrote:
> > aadaab, dosto!
>
> aadaab, Irfan sahib,
>
> It is wonderful to read your new ghazal in the new year. Your poetry usually makes me pause and think. I am going to write down the thoughts that spontaneously flow through my mind while reading your asha'ar. ummiid hai aap meri baatoN ko daad samajh kar qubuul kareNge. :)
>
Zoya sahiba, aadaab!
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 7:09:04 PM UTC-6, Irfan Abid wrote:
> > aadaab, dosto!
>
> aadaab, Irfan sahib,
>
> It is wonderful to read your new ghazal in the new year. Your poetry usually makes me pause and think. I am going to write down the thoughts that spontaneously flow through my mind while reading your asha'ar. ummiid hai aap meri baatoN ko daad samajh kar qubuul kareNge. :)
>
Your attention and comments are truly appreciated. Thanks a bunch!
> > niyaazmand,
> > Irfan :Abid:
>
> Oh, and based on the matlaa, this was supposed to be a 'positive' ghazal, springing hope for the coming year, right?? :)
>
> Thanks, for everything,
>
> _________Zoya
>
Thanks, once again!
Sincerely,
Irfan :Abid:
Irfan Abid
Jan 7, 2022, 7:55:25 PM1/7/22
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Thanks for the attention and appreciation!
Sincerely,
Irfan :Abid:
Irfan Abid
Jan 7, 2022, 11:17:52 PM1/7/22
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I forgot to answer your question about 'fituur.' The fasiih (and I would venture to say, correct) pronunciation is 'futuur.' All of the reputed dictionaries (e.g. Urdu LuGhat, Platts and Feorz-ul-LuGhaat) confirm this. Rekhta does have 'fituur' in addition to 'futuur' though. It appears they recognize the fact that some people say this word as 'fituur.'
Irfan :Abid:
Zoya
Jan 8, 2022, 11:28:09 AM1/8/22
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On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 7:25:58 PM UTC-6, Dinesh Shenoy wrote:
> P.S : Zoya sahiba ... I too was thinking of most of the ones that you mentioned as "this reminds me of" ... ashaar :)
What can I say Dinesh sahib, except "great minds.........." :)
> P.S : Zoya sahiba ... I too was thinking of most of the ones that you mentioned as "this reminds me of" ... ashaar :)
You should join us in she'r-o-naghma thread sometime. "This reminds me of........" does not apply just to Irfan sahib's poetry, you should see what his singing inspires! :-)
Naseer
Jan 8, 2022, 1:22:59 PM1/8/22
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On Thursday, 6 January 2022 at 01:25:58 UTC, Dinesh Shenoy wrote:
> Like I have repeatedly mentioned before, I read ALUP messages religiously but, some posts compel me to respond here.
>
> I have always LOVED your GHazals. You (mostly) use simple words to convey profound thoughts, which I resonate to.
Dinesh SaaHib, it's nice to see you and Mohit SaaHib after a (long?) while. Number of people visiting this group appeared to be diminishing by the day!
> Like I have repeatedly mentioned before, I read ALUP messages religiously but, some posts compel me to respond here.
>
> I have always LOVED your GHazals. You (mostly) use simple words to convey profound thoughts, which I resonate to.
> usii ke haath lagegaa suraaGh hastii kaa
> jo apnii zaat ke zindaaN se duur niklegaa
> I am a lifelong RSS swayamsevak, and this above is something I strive towards.
Regards,
Naseer
Naseer
Jan 8, 2022, 2:34:53 PM1/8/22
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aap ko bhii xushiyoN se bhar-puur nayaa saal mubaarak ho.
ek pur-ummid Ghazal pesh karne ke liye ham sab aap ke shukr-guzaar haiN. pahle to xvud Haalaat hii itne xauf-naak the aur is par sitam yih kih aap "maayuus-kun" GhazaleN pesh kar rahe the!:-) ab Haalaat pahle se bhii ziyaadah pareshaan-kun haiN lekin kam az kam aap kii taraf se ummiid kii chiNgaarii to dikhaa'ii dii hai. ek bahut a3laa Ghazal aap ne hameN navaazii. bahut bahut shukriyah.
rahii baat "futuur/fatuur" aur "qizil-baash/qazal-baash" vaGhairah kii, aap Urdu-goyaan jaise chaaheN boleN/likheN, sab ravaa hai!:-)
fi3l bhiRnaa/bhiRaanaa kam hii Urdu shaa3irii meN isti3maal hotaa hai. .. ek misaal Akbar Ilahabadi kii shaa3irii se..
zabaan-i-Sansikrat us vaqt paNDit jii se kahtii hai
kih achchhaa hai mirii ulfat tumhaare dil meN rahtii hai
maiN Khush huuN gii bilaa-shak tum agar mujh ko jilaa'o ge
magar whiskey pilaa'o ge kih GaNgaa-jal pilaa'o ge
jiyuuN gii maiN kih phir tum ko milaa'uuN devtaa'oN se
*bhiRaa'o* ge mujhii ko yaa kih dunyaa kii balaa'oN se
agar shauq-i-'ibaadat hai to maiN maujuud huuN ab bhii
agar dunyaa kaa saudaa hai to kab maiN is se raazii thii
kyaa aap kabhii fi3l "bhiRnaa" se ism "bheR" bhii isti3maal meN laate haiN, jaise "likhnaa" se "lekh"? ham Punjabi "bheR" ko laRaa'ii ke ma3noN meN lete haiN.
Naseer
Irfan Abid
Jan 8, 2022, 5:06:01 PM1/8/22
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zarra.navaazii ke liye mamnuun huuN. bahut bahut shukriya! maiN koshish karuuNgaa ki apnii naachiiz shaa'irii meN ummeed ka pahluu numaayaaN rakkhuuN, lekin maayuusii bhii dar aaye to bardaasht kar leejiyegaa! :)
> rahii baat "futuur/fatuur" aur "qizil-baash/qazal-baash" vaGhairah kii, aap Urdu-goyaan jaise chaaheN boleN/likheN, sab ravaa hai!:-)
>
> fi3l bhiRnaa/bhiRaanaa kam hii Urdu shaa3irii meN isti3maal hotaa hai. .. ek misaal Akbar Ilahabadi kii shaa3irii se..
>
> zabaan-i-Sansikrat us vaqt paNDit jii se kahtii hai
> kih achchhaa hai mirii ulfat tumhaare dil meN rahtii hai
>
> maiN Khush huuN gii bilaa-shak tum agar mujh ko jilaa'o ge
> magar whiskey pilaa'o ge kih GaNgaa-jal pilaa'o ge
>
> jiyuuN gii maiN kih phir tum ko milaa'uuN devtaa'oN se
> *bhiRaa'o* ge mujhii ko yaa kih dunyaa kii balaa'oN se
>
> agar shauq-i-'ibaadat hai to maiN maujuud huuN ab bhii
> agar dunyaa kaa saudaa hai to kab maiN is se raazii thii
>
"bhiRnaa"
shahr kaa shahr hii naasih ho to kyaa kiijiyegaa
varna ham rind to bhiR jaate haiN do chaar ke saath (Ahmad Faraz)
ham ne siikhaa nahiiN saahil pe bharosaa karnaa
baRh ke tuufaan huey, bhiR gaye tuufaanoN se (Mahmood Abdul Qadeer)
"bhiRaanaa"
jo sair dekhnii manzuur hai tumheN 'beKhud'
bhiRaa do hazrat-e-zaahid se mai pilaa ke mujhe (Bekhud Dehlvi)
dekh rahte haiN vo aaiina-e-zaanuu us kaa
par kisii shakl se zaanuu ko bhiRaa sakte nahii.n (Jur'at Qalandar Bakhsh)
> kyaa aap kabhii fi3l "bhiRnaa" se ism "bheR" bhii isti3maal meN laate haiN, jaise "likhnaa" se "lekh"? ham Punjabi "bheR" ko laRaa'ii ke ma3noN meN lete haiN.
>
> Naseer
ek martaba phir, aap kii tavajjuh aur pazeeraii kaa shukriya!
niyaazmand,
Irfan :Abid:
Raj Kumar
Jan 8, 2022, 7:40:02 PM1/8/22
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On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 2:06:01 PM UTC-8, Irfan Abid wrote:
> On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 2:34:53 PM UTC-5, Naseer wrote:
> > muHtaram Irfan SaaHib, tasliimaat.
> >
> > aap ko bhii xushiyoN se bhar-puur nayaa saal mubaarak ho.
> >
> > ek pur-ummid Ghazal pesh karne ke liye ham sab aap ke shukr-guzaar haiN. pahle to xvud Haalaat hii itne xauf-naak the aur is par sitam yih kih aap "maayuus-kun" GhazaleN pesh kar rahe the!:-) ab Haalaat pahle se bhii ziyaadah pareshaan-kun haiN lekin kam az kam aap kii taraf se ummiid kii chiNgaarii to dikhaa'ii dii hai. ek bahut a3laa Ghazal aap ne hameN navaazii. bahut bahut shukriyah.
***janaab Naseer sahib:
> On Saturday, January 8, 2022 at 2:34:53 PM UTC-5, Naseer wrote:
> > muHtaram Irfan SaaHib, tasliimaat.
> >
> > aap ko bhii xushiyoN se bhar-puur nayaa saal mubaarak ho.
> >
> > ek pur-ummid Ghazal pesh karne ke liye ham sab aap ke shukr-guzaar haiN. pahle to xvud Haalaat hii itne xauf-naak the aur is par sitam yih kih aap "maayuus-kun" GhazaleN pesh kar rahe the!:-) ab Haalaat pahle se bhii ziyaadah pareshaan-kun haiN lekin kam az kam aap kii taraf se ummiid kii chiNgaarii to dikhaa'ii dii hai. ek bahut a3laa Ghazal aap ne hameN navaazii. bahut bahut shukriyah.
ham "ummiid ki kiran" to sunte aaye haiN, "ummiid ki chiNgaarii" aaj pahli baar suni hai. yeh to vuhi baat hu'ii -----
"ai Khudaa, mujh par rahmat ki aag barsaa"!*** :-)
> > kyaa aap kabhii fi3l "bhiRnaa" se ism "bheR" bhii isti3maal meN laate haiN, jaise "likhnaa" se "lekh"? ham Punjabi "bheR" ko laRaa'ii ke ma3noN meN lete haiN.
> >
> jahaaN tak mujhe ilm hai, lafz-e-"bheR" ko Urdu/Hindi meN jaanvar "bheR" ke liye to iste'maal karte haiN, lekin "laRne" ke liye nahiiN. haaN, murakkab "muTh-bheR/muD-bheR" zaruur "laRne" ke maa'nii meN iste'maal hotaa hai.
>
is zimn meN, Maulaana Haali ka yeh she'r dekhiye:
raat zaahid se ne "muTh-bheR" hu'ii, Khuub hu'aa
nashsha zoroN pe tha, shaayad na chhupaayaa jaataa
aap ki Ghazal par bahut kuchh kahne ko jii chaahataa hai magar fil-Haal himmat nahiiN ho rahii. May be, some time later!
R.K.***
Naseer
Jan 8, 2022, 7:54:01 PM1/8/22
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On Sunday, 9 January 2022 at 00:40:02 UTC, Raj Kumar wrote:
>
> ***janaab Naseer sahib:
>
> ham "ummiid ki kiran" to sunte aaye haiN, "ummiid ki chiNgaarii" aaj pahli baar suni hai. yeh to vuhi baat hu'ii -----
> "ai Khudaa, mujh par rahmat ki aag barsaa"!*** :-)
> R.K.***
>
> ***janaab Naseer sahib:
>
> ham "ummiid ki kiran" to sunte aaye haiN, "ummiid ki chiNgaarii" aaj pahli baar suni hai. yeh to vuhi baat hu'ii -----
> "ai Khudaa, mujh par rahmat ki aag barsaa"!*** :-)
Raj Kumar SaaHib, aadaab
dil hai pahluu meN kih umiid kii chiNgaarii hai
ab tak itnii hai Haraarat kih jiye jaate haiN
Mirza Yaas Yagaanah/Yagaanah Changezi
Naseer
Zoya
Jan 9, 2022, 5:59:54 PM1/9/22
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On Friday, January 7, 2022 at 6:53:45 PM UTC-6, Irfan Abid wrote:
> The Arabic 'al' is equivalent to the English 'the' and is added in the front of words just like 'the.' When the letter 'siin' comes right after 'al,' letter 'laam' can be dropped in talaffuz and instead 'siin' can be treated as mushaddad (one with a tashdiid) i.e. pronounced twice. You may have heard the word 'as-salaam.' It's actually 'al-salaam.'
Irfan sahib, thank you so much for this short but very meaningful lesson. I have often wondered why some of my friends say "as-salaam" instead of simple "salaam" when greeting, but never asked anyone about it. I just assumed it was a variation in the pronunciation depending on the native land of these people. Now I know! :)
> The Arabic 'al' is equivalent to the English 'the' and is added in the front of words just like 'the.' When the letter 'siin' comes right after 'al,' letter 'laam' can be dropped in talaffuz and instead 'siin' can be treated as mushaddad (one with a tashdiid) i.e. pronounced twice. You may have heard the word 'as-salaam.' It's actually 'al-salaam.'
________Zoya
Raj Kumar
Jan 10, 2022, 8:09:10 PM1/10/22
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On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 5:09:04 PM UTC-8, Irfan Abid wrote:
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> is saal kii shuruu’aat par Ameer Qazalbash kii zameen meN ek taazah Ghazal pesh-e-Khidmat hai. mulaahizah farmaaiye aur apnii raae
> se navaaziye.
***janaab Irfan sahib, aap ki Ghazal nazar-navaaz hu'ii aur hamesha ki taraH dil meN utar ga'ii. aap meri jaanib se is dilkash Ghazal par Dher saari mubaarak qubuul farmaa'eN!
>
> is saal kii shuruu’aat par Ameer Qazalbash kii zameen meN ek taazah Ghazal pesh-e-Khidmat hai. mulaahizah farmaaiye aur apnii raae
> se navaaziye.
in dinoN yaar-dostoN ki dilchaspi is baat meN hai k aap ke ash'aar par kaheeN kaheeN "this reminds me of " kahaa jaaye. maiN aaj un dostoN ki is dilchaspi ko mazeed jilaa dene ki koshish karuuN ga; ummiid hai k aap bhi meri is koshish se maHzuuz hoN ge.
Are you ready, ZS and DS?*** :-)
> ufuq kii kokh se suuraj kaa nuur niklegaa
> ki shab ke baad saveraa zaruur niklegaa
KhizaaN ke ba'ad bahaar aaye gii zaruur, magar
ujaR ke bas na sakeN ge diloN ke kaashaane***
> yih chaahtaa huuN, bhiRaa duuN diye ko tuufaaN se
> mire damaaGh kaa kaise futuur niklegaa
aaKhir ham is kashtii ko Khud hii paar lagaa'eN ge
tuufaaN se gar bach niklii, saaHil se Takraa'eN ge***
> jahaaN pe aah bharii hai avaam-e-be.kas ne
> vahiiN pe shaah ke sar kaa Ghuruur niklegaa
zaalimo, Khauf karo, aah ko samjho na Haqeer
lafz Allaah meN hai is ka asar do-baTa-teen***
> usii ke haath lagegaa suraaGh hastii kaa
> jo apnii zaat ke zindaaN se duur niklegaa
Hisaar-e-zaat se nikluuN to tujh se baat karuuN
tirii sifaat ko samjhuuN to tujh se baat karuuN***
> na karte jurm kaa iqbaal ham to kyaa karte
> “hameN yaqiiN thaa, hamaaraa qusuur niklegaa”
mujhii par aaye gaa ilzaam merii paa'imaalii kaa
tirii raftaar ko, ai fitna-saamaaN, kaun dekhe ga? [DS, pl. note that "mujhii" itself means "mujh hii"]***
> Khudaa ne aql bhii baKhshii hai rokne ke liye
> use Khabar thii ki dil naa.sabuur niklegaa
achchhaa hai dil ka paas rahe paasbaan-e-aql
lekin kabhii kabhii ise tanhaa bhi chhoR de***
> yih jaante to milaate na aaNkh ham us se
> ki ik nigaah meN itnaa suruur niklegaa!
qissa-e-tuur-o-kaleem aata hai jab yaad mujhe
aap se aaNkh milaate huye Dar lagtaa hai***
> mirii nazar ko vuh jalvah dikhaayegaa kis din?
> mire naseeb meN kab koh-e-tuur niklegaa?
Khush huuN maiN jab se sunaa hai "voh huye harjaa'ii"
mere ghar, dekhiye, kis roz karam hotaa hai***
> tirii hii zaat se nisbat hai zindagii ko mirii
> so dam bhii aa ke tire hii huzuur niklegaa
laash hii jaaye gi ab apnii yahaaN se, saaqii
ham to kyaa jaa'eN ge uTh kar tire mai-Khaane se?***
> sivaaye zehr ke maaNgegaa aur kyaa aaKhir
> saraab-e-zeest se thak kar jo chuur niklegaa
ab aur mai-gasaari ki himmat nahiiN rahii
"ab zahr hii pilaa k tabii'at udaas hai"***
> mile na gar mire alfaaz meN to phir :Abid:
> jo mudda’aa hai vuh bain-as-sutuur niklegaa!
Qais shaa'ir hai, ko'ii shaiKh-o-baraahman to nahiiN
is ke ash'aar meN 'voh' baat na DhuuNDe ko'ii
niyaaz-maNd, Raj Kumar***
Zoya
Jan 11, 2022, 11:29:30 AM1/11/22
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On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 7:09:10 PM UTC-6, Raj Kumar wrote:
> in dinoN yaar-dostoN ki dilchaspi is baat meN hai k aap ke ash'aar par kaheeN kaheeN "this reminds me of " kahaa jaaye. maiN aaj un dostoN ki is dilchaspi ko mazeed jilaa dene ki koshish karuuN ga; ummiid hai k aap bhi meri is koshish se maHzuuz hoN ge.
> Are you ready, ZS and DS?*** :-)
What a treat RK sahib! Only you could have done this. Priceless. :-)
> in dinoN yaar-dostoN ki dilchaspi is baat meN hai k aap ke ash'aar par kaheeN kaheeN "this reminds me of " kahaa jaaye. maiN aaj un dostoN ki is dilchaspi ko mazeed jilaa dene ki koshish karuuN ga; ummiid hai k aap bhi meri is koshish se maHzuuz hoN ge.
> Are you ready, ZS and DS?*** :-)
Some of the asha'ar you quoted are familiar, some are new for me. Either way, they packed a perfect punch.
I have always loved and often used "This reminds me of......" style when posting asha'ar, but coming from you it is a whole different level. We are so lucky to have you and Irfan sahib still active in the forum. What would I do without you two? :-))
__________Zoya
Dinesh Shenoy
Jan 11, 2022, 7:25:01 PM1/11/22
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On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 6:09:10 PM UTC-7, Raj Kumar wrote:
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> > mile na gar mire alfaaz meN to phir :Abid:
> > jo mudda’aa hai vuh bain-as-sutuur niklegaa!
> ***This again reminds me of an 'antonym'
> Qais shaa'ir hai, ko'ii shaiKh-o-baraahman to nahiiN
> is ke ash'aar meN 'voh' baat na DhuuNDe ko'ii
>
> niyaaz-maNd, Raj Kumar***
Raj Kumar sahib,
Like Zoya sahiba said, needless to say each one of the sher that you picked are wonderful. But, this one was particularly "sharaarati" :)
Hope you don't mind me saying this ... my only (mild) complaint is we are straying away from complimenting/responding to the wonderful GHazal that Irfan sahib has written ... I say that because after reading your carefully crafted responses I always end up saying ... "man, I hadn't thought of that" or ... "wow, that minor change takes it to a different level" ... I distinctly remember when you helped me with my attempts (many many many moons ago).
Dinesh
P.S : Zoya sahiba - I wholeheartedly agree with you ... truly blessed to have RK sahib, Irfan sahib, Afzal sahib here ... I sorely miss Minai sahib, UVR sahib, Sarwar sahib, Rajiv sahib, and many many more. FaceBook Dayin ALUP ko khaagayi :) waise aapke posts to mazedaar haiN hii
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> > mile na gar mire alfaaz meN to phir :Abid:
> > jo mudda’aa hai vuh bain-as-sutuur niklegaa!
> ***This again reminds me of an 'antonym'
> Qais shaa'ir hai, ko'ii shaiKh-o-baraahman to nahiiN
> is ke ash'aar meN 'voh' baat na DhuuNDe ko'ii
>
> niyaaz-maNd, Raj Kumar***
Like Zoya sahiba said, needless to say each one of the sher that you picked are wonderful. But, this one was particularly "sharaarati" :)
Hope you don't mind me saying this ... my only (mild) complaint is we are straying away from complimenting/responding to the wonderful GHazal that Irfan sahib has written ... I say that because after reading your carefully crafted responses I always end up saying ... "man, I hadn't thought of that" or ... "wow, that minor change takes it to a different level" ... I distinctly remember when you helped me with my attempts (many many many moons ago).
Dinesh
P.S : Zoya sahiba - I wholeheartedly agree with you ... truly blessed to have RK sahib, Irfan sahib, Afzal sahib here ... I sorely miss Minai sahib, UVR sahib, Sarwar sahib, Rajiv sahib, and many many more. FaceBook Dayin ALUP ko khaagayi :) waise aapke posts to mazedaar haiN hii
Irfan Abid
Jan 15, 2022, 3:41:28 PM1/15/22
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aap kii giraaN.qadr daad ke liye behad ahsaan.mand huuN. aap ne mere adnaa ash'aar ke muqaabil jo nageene 'ataa farmaaye haiN, vuh laajavaab haiN. bahut bahut shukriya!
niyaazmand,
Irfan :Abid:
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