JANG AUR AMAN PAR EIK NAZM!!!!!!!
A Cassam
Eik nazm 'Jung aur Aman " kay baaray mein TV par sunnay ka iteffaq huwa!
Umeed hai aap parhna gawaara karein gay! (Shaa'ir ka koi atta patta
nahin hai!)
khoon apna ho ya paraya ho
nasal-e-aadam ka khoon hai akhir,
jung mashriq mein ho ya ke maghrib mein
amn-e-aalam ka khoon hai akhir!
jung tau khud eik masla hai
jung maslon ka hal kiya deygee?
khoon aur aag aaj bakhshay gee
bhook aur ehteaaj kal deygee! (BTW "ehteaaj" ka matlab hai?)
is liye aye "shareef insaanon"
jung taltee rahay tau behtar hai,
aap aur hum sabhee ke aangan mein
shama jaltee rahay tau behtar hai!
bartaree kay soobooth ki khatir
khoon bahaana hee kiya zaroori hai???
ghar ki taareekiian mitaanay ko
ghar jalaana hee kiya zarooree hai?????
emth...@my-deja.com
A Cassam <aca...@home.com> wrote:
> Mohziz Kwaateen-O-Hazraat,
>
> Eik nazm 'Jung aur Aman " kay baaray mein TV par sunnay ka iteffaq
huwa!
> Umeed hai aap parhna gawaara karein gay! (Shaa'ir ka koi atta patta
> nahin hai!)
>
> khoon apna ho ya paraya ho
> nasal-e-aadam ka khoon hai akhir,
> jung mashriq mein ho ya ke maghrib mein
> amn-e-aalam ka khoon hai akhir!
>
This naz'm is by Sahir Ludhianvi and he called it "Ai Shareef Insaano".
He wrote it about the Indo-Pak war and presented it at the first
anniversary of Tashkant agreement. It is included in his
collection "aao ki koi khwaab buneN".
If you liked it, you should also read his 'parcchayiaaN' and 'Khoon
phir Khoon hai".
Respectfully,
Vijay Kumar
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A Cassam
Thanks for the information on the writer of this nazm. Surprising that a
person should come on Calgary TV --read the Nazm and not mention a name
like Sahir Ji. Would really appreciate though--if by chance you have the
other 2 --"parchayian" and "khoon phir khoon hai" and the entire nazm "
aao ke koi khwaab bunein" --and can find time to post on this forum.
Yours cordially!
Abida
A Cassam
Sorry in my earlier message "Aao ke koi khwaab bunein" should have read
"aay shareef insaanon"! Wasn't expecting you to post an entire
collection !
Just wondering --no offense meant--how come we are conversing in English
in an Urdu forum????
Abida
emth...@my-deja.com
A Cassam <aca...@home.com> wrote:
> Vijay Kumar Ji,
>
> Sorry in my earlier message "Aao ke koi khwaab bunein" should have
read
> "aay shareef insaanon"! Wasn't expecting you to post an entire
> collection !
>
> Just wondering --no offense meant--how come we are conversing in
English
> in an Urdu forum????
>
> Abida
>
English script and still find it a wee bit tedious. I am working at it
nonetheless and hopefully will be able to start posting in the proper
language of this forum.
ParchhayaN is a booklet length dissertation on war and posting it in
its entirety is beyond the scope of available time and space on this
forum. But just for a little taste of it, I post below the last 3
stanzas from this naz'm:
"Yeh sar zamiin hai Gautam kii aur Naanak kii
is arz-e-pak pe vehshi na chal sakenge kabhi
hamaara Khoon amaanat hai nasal-e-nau ke liye
hmaare Khoon pe lashkar na pal sakenge kabhi
Kaho ki aaj bhi ham sab agar Khamosh rahe
to is damkte huey KhakdaN ki Khair nahiN
janooN ki dhaali hooey ai'tmy b'laaoN sey
zamiiN ki Khair nahiiN aasmaN ki Khair nahiiN
Guzashtaa jang meN ghar hii jaley magar is baar
ajab nahiiN ki yeh tanhaayiaN bhi jal jaeyN
guzashtaa jang meN pekar jaley magar is baar
ajab nahiiN ki yeh parchaayiaN bhi jal jaeyN
Tassavuraat ki parchhayiaN ubharti haiN"
I will post "Ai shariif insaano" and "Khoon phir Khoon hai" in my
subsequent postings.
Respectfully,
Vijay Kumar
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Raj Kumar Pathria
>
> Vijay Kumar Ji,
>
> Sorry in my earlier message "Aao ke koi khwaab bunein" should have read
> "aay shareef insaanon"! Wasn't expecting you to post an entire
> collection !
>
> Just wondering --no offense meant--how come we are conversing in English
> in an Urdu forum????
>
> Abida
----------------
How come, we are conversing in English at an Urdu forum?
baat yeh hai, Abida Sahiba, ke hamaare bahut se dost (perhaps, including
yourself) find it more convenient to express themselves in English
rather than in Urdu --- despite the fact that they love Urdu dearly.
khair, haqeeqat kuchh bhi ho magar aap ke sawaal ne mujhe aek nihaayat
maze-daar she'r yaad dilaa diya (jise main ne kayee jagah barhi
khush-usloobi se iste'maal kiya hai). she'r arz hai:
chataai ki jagah kiyoon maikade mein mez hai saaqi?
na main angrez hoon saaqi, na tu angrez hai saaqi!!!
Raj Kumar
Padmanabhan Srinagesh
attribute the wrong gender to inanimate objects. Hopefully, with time,
I will get better. As someone once said: "Aati hai urdu zabaan aate
aate".
Nagesh
A Cassam
I think so too -writing Urdu in English script is "mighty tedious " not
just a "wee bit tedious"!!! I have no problem conversing in English.
Thanks kindly for the 3 stanzas from the nazm "parchayian"! With the
latest developments in the sub-continent today ---this poem does set a
very sad tone---doesn't it???
I will await "just a taste" of the other 2 nazms! Only a couple of
stanzas at your own convenience---would be just fine!
Yours thankfully,
Abida
emth...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> In article <374D3DE1...@home.com>,
> A Cassam <aca...@home.com> wrote:
> > Vijay Kumar Ji,
> >
> > Sorry in my earlier message "Aao ke koi khwaab bunein" should have
> read
> > "aay shareef insaanon"! Wasn't expecting you to post an entire
> > collection !
> >
> > Just wondering --no offense meant--how come we are conversing in
> English
> > in an Urdu forum????
> >
> > Abida
> >
A Cassam
Wah !!!kiya mozoon sher Irshad farmaya aap nay!
Hum ko khud bhi bohot mushkil lagta hai--English mein sochna--aur Urdu
mein translate kar kay phir se English script mein likhna!
Ab patta chala ke hum akele nahin hein is mushkil mein!
Hum samjhay shaid is forum mein English mein baat karna mana hoga.
Shukriya aap nay wazahat kar dee!
Yours thankfully,
Abida Cassam
Raj Kumar Pathria wrote:
>
> A Cassam wrote:
> >
> > Vijay Kumar Ji,
> >
> > Sorry in my earlier message "Aao ke koi khwaab bunein" should have read
> > "aay shareef insaanon"! Wasn't expecting you to post an entire
> > collection !
> >
> > Just wondering --no offense meant--how come we are conversing in English
> > in an Urdu forum????
> >
> > Abida
>
Raj Kumar Pathria
>
> Raj Kumar Ji,
>
> Wah!!! kiya mozoon sher Irshad farmaya aap nay!
mujhe poori ummeed thi ke yeh she'r aap ko pasand aaye ga. Just for
reference, yeh she'r kisi mazaahiya shaa'ir ki aek ghazal mein se hai,
jo ghazal ke unhon ne Iqbal ki zameen mein kahi thi ......... aur Iqbal
ki apni ghazal mein aek misra' aata hai jise main 'anmol' samajhta hoon.
farmaate hain
"zaraa nam ho to yeh mitti bahut zar-khez hai saaqi".
The implications of this misra' are enormous! hamen zindagi mein hazaar
baar aise haalaat se do-chaar hona parhta hai jahaan, sab kuchh hote
huye bhi, kisi aek cheez ki kami hone se hum kuchh bhi naheen kar paate.
aise mauqe' par yeh misra' hamaari majbooriyon ka aa'eena-daar banta
hai!
baaqi, yeh jo Urdu-Angrezi ki baat hai, hamaara matlab to aek doosre ki
madad se Urdu shaa'iri ko samajhna aur us se faiz uthaana hi to hai. is
liye, jise jo bhi medium aasaan lage, woh usi medium ka iste'maal kare;
aisa karne mein koi harj naheen hai.
goya, yahaan Angrezi medium ka iste'maal mana' naheen hai.
phir bhi, agar aap himmat kar ke apne khayaalaat Urdu mein bayaan karen
to 'sone par suhaage' waali baat hogi!
khair-andesh, Raj Kumar
Raj Kumar Pathria
>
> Some of us are not fluent or proficient in Urdu or Hindi. I endlessly
> attribute the wrong gender to inanimate objects. Hopefully, with time,
> I will get better. As someone once said: "Aati hai urdu zabaan aate
> aate".
>
> Nagesh
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Nagesh Sahib:
It is quite well-established by now that one may use either Urdu or
English as one's medium of communication while posting at ALUP. That
fact of choice has never been in dispute.
Our purpose over here is to enjoy Urdu poetry together as well as to
enhance our understanding of its nuances and mysteries through mutual
help; to achieve that end,
whatever medium we employ is fine!
As regards your 'attribution of wrong gender to inanimate objects' is
concerned,
I am not unduly surprised --- though I haven't seen any signs of it in
your postings. The reason might be that you make these 'gaffes' only in
oral conversation and not in the written word. Moreover, in writing, you
generally employ English as your medium --- which robs us of any
opportunities that we could have had to enjoy these 'gaffes' ourselves.
Nevertheless, I do hope that these gender-benders are confined to
inanimate objects only! :-))
khair-andesh, Raj Kumar
Ashok
>
>This naz'm is by Sahir Ludhianvi and he called it "Ai Shareef Insaano".
>He wrote it about the Indo-Pak war and presented it at the first
>anniversary of Tashkant agreement. It is included in his
>collection "aao ki koi khwaab buneN".
>phir Khoon hai".
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Vijay Kumar
And his nazm from film 'Tajmahal':
khudaa\-e\-bartar terii zamii.n par, zamii.n kii khaatir ye ja.ng kyo.n hai
har ek fatah\-o\-zafar ke daaman pe khuun\-e\-insaa.n kaa ra.ng kyo.n hai
khudaa\-e\-bartar \threedots
zamii.n bhii terii, hai.n ham bhii tere, ye milkiyat kaa savaal kyaa hai
ye katl\-o\-Kuu.N kaa rivaaz kyo.n hai, ye rasm\-e\-ja.ng\-o\-jadaal kyaa hai
jinhe talab hai jahaan bhar kii, unhii kaa dil itanaa ta.ng kyo.n hai
khudaa\-e\-bartar \threedots
Ghariib maa.N_o.n shariif behano.n ko amn\-o\-izzat kii zi.ndagii de
jinhe ataa kii hai tuu ne taaqat, unhe hidaayat kii roshanii de
saro.n me.n kibr\-o\-Guruur kyo.n hai.n, dilo.n ke shiishe pe za.ng kyo.n hai
khudaa\-e\-bartar \threedots
Khazaa ke raste pe jaanevaalo.n ko bach ke aane kii raah denaa
dilo.n ke gulashan uja.D na jaae, muhabbato.n ko panaah denaa
jahaa.N me.n jashn\-e\-vafaa ke badale, ye jashn\-e\-tiir\-o\-tafa.ng kyo.n hai
khudaa\-e\-bartar \threedots
khudaa\-e\-bartar terii zamii.n par, zamii.n kii khaatir ye ja.ng kyo.n hai
har ek fatah\-o\-zafar ke daaman pe Khoon\-e\-insaa.n kaa ra.ng kyo.n hai
khudaa\-e\-bartar \threedots
Ashok
A Cassam
This is such a touching NAZM too! Thanks a lot for sharing this with us
all!! I just love patriotic themes!!
BTW what is "threedots" referring to at the end of each verse???
Yours cordially!
Abida Sultana
beeni...@gmail.com
farhat...@gmail.com
> Mohziz Kwaateen-O-Hazraat,
>
> Eik nazm 'Jung aur Aman " kay baaray mein TV par sunnay ka iteffaq huwa!
> Umeed hai aap parhna gawaara karein gay! (Shaa'ir ka koi atta patta
> nahin hai!)
>
> khoon apna ho ya paraya ho
> nasal-e-aadam ka khoon hai akhir,
> jung mashriq mein ho ya ke maghrib mein
> amn-e-aalam ka khoon hai akhir!
>
> jung maslon ka hal kiya deygee?
> khoon aur aag aaj bakhshay gee
> bhook aur ehteaaj kal deygee! (BTW "ehteaaj" ka matlab hai?)
>
> is liye aye "shareef insaanon"
> jung taltee rahay tau behtar hai,
> aap aur hum sabhee ke aangan mein
> shama jaltee rahay tau behtar hai!
>
> bartaree kay soobooth ki khatir
> khoon bahaana hee kiya zaroori hai???
> ghar ki taareekiian mitaanay ko
> ghar jalaana hee kiya zarooree hai?????
Saghier Jafri
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تمام سیاست دان اگر چاہیں تو ''''''''' پیس ایکٹیوسٹ '''''''' ، انجینئر ، شاعر ، صحافی سید صغیر احمد جعفری کی دنیا بھر میں امن ، مستقل امن قائم کرنے کی کوششوں کے حوالے سے پڑھیں اور ، اس خطے میں اور دیگر تمام علاقوں میں امن ، امن ، ( پیس ، پیس ) ، مستقل امن ، مستقل امن جلد از جلد قائم کرنے کے لئے ، تمام مسائل ، جھگڑوں وغیرہ کو جلد ہی یا 2017 میں حل کرکے امن ، امن ، مستقل امن ، مستقل امن
( peace , peace , peace , permanent peace , permanent peace only , permanent peace only and , no , no no to any temporary amn ki ummeed / or , no , no ,no to any temporary amn ki asha / hope y raising such kind of slogans , naa'aray / slogans only and , practically not helping in providing amn / amn / real amn / real peace / most desired peace in this important part of the world and , also most desired / required peace , peace , peace / real peace / real amn in all parts of the world.permanent peace is must and therefore , if the leaders / politicians , all the lovers of peace / permanent peace loving people of this troubled world are really / honestly interested to have excellent / permanent peace soonest after resolving all the old and new disputes / matters now , now , now '''''''''''''' during the year 2017 definitely , honestly ''''''''''''''''' then ? ? ? yes , then , if they like , please contact saghier ahmed jafri ...... ( the internationally well known peace activist eng'r . , poet , writer , journalist , organizer of international / aalmi mushaire / grand literary , cultural , programs / functions including , the promotion of urdu and other languages all over the world ( there is problem with my computer and , it is not typing in capital words ) .
who has been writing for more than thirty years on the important subject of '''''''''''''''''''''' permanent peace is most essential in this area and in other areas of the world to avoid war / wars / destruction / loss of life / property knowing the fact / reality that many countries of the world are now atomic powers / possessing atomic weapons and therefore , all the wars / troubles must be avoided by solving all the new / old disputes / matters now , now , now between pakistan , india and also solve all the disputes / matters now , now , now among all the other countries of this world which is becoming more difficult / dangerous as the time is passing fast.
the politicians etc. and all the peace loving people , uno , saarc , oic , nam , asiaan , human right organisation / human right watch org. , amnesty international etc. may make best use of my efforts in having the real / permanent peace in this important part of the world ........ pakistan , india ,,,,,,,,,, and also , in all other parts of the world.my telephone no. is : 0092 336 236 6189
قائم کرنے کی تحریکِ پاکستان کے پرانے فعال اسٹوڈنٹ کارکن ، تاریخی مسلم اسٹوڈنٹس فیڈیریشن کے پرانے فعال ممبر سید صغیر احمد جعفری کی کوششوں میں ساتھ دیں گے ؟ ؟ ؟
آگ اور خون میں نہائی ہوئی اس دنیا میں 2017 میں تمام مسائل کوحل کرنے کی میری کوششیں اگر آپ کو بھی پسند ہیں تو رابطہ قائم کریں ۔ ہم سب متحد ہوکر ایسے اچھے کام کریں ، دنیا بھر میں دکھی انسانوں کی خدمت کریں تاکہ آئندہ کسی بھی سیاست دان کی ہمت ہی نہ ہو کہ وہ لڑائی ، فساد ، '''''' وار ، ورلڈوار '''''''' تیسری عالمی جنگ کی بات کرے ۔
مجھے امید ہے کہ یو این او ، اقوام متحدہ کی ،،،،، سیکیورٹی کونسل ،،،،،،، دنیا کے تمام امن پسند سیاست دان ، دنیا کے تمام ممالک کے امن ، امن ، مستقل امن ، مستقل امن سے سید صغیر کی طرح محبت کرنے والے لوگ ، او آئی سی ، سارک ، نام ، ہیومن رائٹ واچ ، ہیومن رائٹ آرگنائیزیشن ، ہیومن رائٹس کمیشن ، ایمنیسٹی انٹرنیشنل وغیرہ ، امریکہ ، چین ، روس ، ، پاکستان ، بریطانیہ ، اانڈیا ، فرانس ، جرمنی ، اآسٹریلیا ، افغانستان ، سعودی عربیہ ، امارات ، قطر ، بحرین ، اومان ، مصر و دیگر مڈل ایسٹرن و خلیجی ممالک ، فار ایسٹرن ممالک جاپان ، انڈونیشیا ، نیوزی لینڈ ، نیپال ، بنگلہ دیش ، سری لنکا ، کوریا ، لبنان ، شام ، بھوٹان ، مالدیب ، تھائی لینڈ ، یونان ، کیوبا ، سوٹزرلینڈ ، ڈنمارک ، بیلجیئم ، ہالینڈ ، اسپین ، سویڈن وغیرہ ، وغیرہ کے لیڈرز ، سیاست دان ، ان ممالک کے تمام امن پسند لوگ ، شاعر ، ادیب ، دانشور ، صحافی ، مصنف ، وزیر ، سفیر ، مشیر ، تمام ادبی ، ثقافتی ، سماجی ، فلاحی ، سیاسی ، بزنس ، غیر سیاسی اداروں کے سربراہ ، تمام پروفیشنلز میری اس اہم ،،،،،،،،، پریکٹیکل تحریر ،،،،،،،،، کو پڑھ کرمجھ سے رابطہ قائم کریں گے کیونکہ ، پہلے ہی بہت دیر ہوچکی ہے اور دنیا بھر میں امن ، امن ، مستقل امن ، مستقل امن صرف میرے جیسے برسوں سے امن ، مستقل کے قیام میں امن قائم کرنے کی کوششوں میں مصروف لوگ ہی لا سکتے ہیں ۔
صرف سیاسی گفتگو ، پریس کانفرنسوں ، ۔۔۔۔۔ امن ، پیس سیمینارز ۔۔۔۔ سے امن ، مستقل امن حاسل کرنا آسان نہیں ہے ، اس لئے اگر آپ سب چاہیں تو رابطہ کریں تاکہ ، ہم سب آج ہی سے متحد ہوکر اس اہم خطے اور دنیا بھر میں جلد از جلد امن ، امن ، مستقل امن ، مستقل امن قائم کرنے میں کامیابی حاسل کر کے دکھائیں ۔ جی ہاں ، یہ سب کچھ ممکن ہے ۔
سید صغیر احمد جعفری ۔
saghier ahmed jafri .
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http://alt.language.urdu.poetry.narkive.com/sHnkqjR7/permanent-peace-now-now-now-says-peace-activist-saghier , ,, .. ... .. .. .. ... ..
https://www.google.com.pk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=internationally%20know%20peace%20activist%20%2C%20poet%20%2C%20journalist%20saghier%20ahmed%20jafri%27s%20efforts%20for%20world%20peace. , . .
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https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/urdu-pk/OLyRjYjyH0 ,
http://www.urdumanzil.com/adab_nama/index.html .