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WHAT IS TURKEY IN URDU?

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abida123

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Dec 9, 2001, 9:58:08 PM12/9/01
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Just curious what the bird Turkey is called in Urdu??

Thanks!

Abida

Sarwar Alam Raz

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Dec 10, 2001, 10:47:21 AM12/10/01
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abida123 <abid...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<3C14265B...@shaw.ca>...

> Just curious what the bird Turkey is called in Urdu??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Abida

abida saaheba aadaab!

aap kaa sawaal jis qadar aasaan hai, us kaa jawaab usee qadar mushkil
hai. meraa Khayaal hai ke hamaaree taraf (india/pakistan meiN) turkey
kee taraH kee koi cheez naheeN hotee hai. taqreeban saaTh saal pehle
(jee 60 hee keh rahaa hooN!) meiN ne jabalpur ke aas paas ek trukey se
miltaa jultaa jaanwar (parinda is liye naheeN keh rahaa hooN ke woh
murGhee kee taraH hee bas zaraa saa uR saktaa thaa) dekhaa thaa jise
muqaamee loh :janglee murGhee: kehte the. mumkin hai ke koi aur saaheb
yaa sahebaa is per mazeed roshnee daal sakeN.

Sarwar Raz :Sarwar:

Aslam Sahbaa

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Dec 10, 2001, 1:26:50 PM12/10/01
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:janglee murGhee: kehte the. mumkin hai ke koi aur saaheb
> yaa sahebaa is per mazeed roshnee daal sakeN.
>
> Sarwar Raz :Sarwar:
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janaab-e-Sarwar Saahab,
assalaam_o_'alaikum,

ummiid hai ki mizaaj-e-giraamii ba_Khair hoNge.

aaj kaii dinoN kii Ghair_haazirii ke ba'ad aapkii mehfil meN haazir
huaa huuN. kaafii "posts" kaa jawaab mujh par vaajib hai, inshaa_Allah
ek, ek kar ke uN sab kaa jawaab duuNgaa jo kuchh waqt_talab hai.

aap jis pariNde kaa zikr kar rahe haiN use ham log Allahabad meN Hindi
meN matarjim lafz kaa iste'maal karte huye jaante haiN, ya'nii
"ban_murGHii". mere Khayaal se yeh vo pariNda nahiiN hai kyuNki
ba_nisbat "Turkey" ke yeh bahot hii muKhtasar hotii hai, ba_qadr
yak_nivaalaa!

meraa jahaaN_tak qayaas hai "Turkey" ko Hindustaanii meN
"chiinii_murGHii" yaa "chitlii_nurGhii" kahte haiN. ho saktaa hai ki
yeh kam_az_kam usii "Turkey" kii hii "zaat_beraadarii" kii ho.
wa_(A)llah 'aalam bis_sawaab.

faqat muKhlis,

Aslam "Sai'hbaa"

abida123

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Dec 10, 2001, 9:25:27 PM12/10/01
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Sarwar Sahib aur Aslam Sahib,

aap donoN ke jawaabaat ka bahut bahut shukriya. aaj kal kiyooN ke halaal Turkeys
dukaanon meiN dastiaab haiN to is parindeh ka Urdu naam maloom karne ka shauq hameiN
ho gayaa. nosh karne se pehle agar pataa ho ke Urdu meiN ise kya kehte haiN to khane
ka lut'f dobaalaa ho jaaye ga :-) LOL!!

kisi faarsi bolne wale se ham ne sunaa ke Urdu meiN Turkey ko "TurKh murGh" kehte
haiN . kisi aur ne bataaya 'pahaari murGh" .

magar aap ne jo kahaa hai ke India Pakistan meiN Turkey jaisi koi cheez hotii hi
naheeN to ham is se ikhtalaaf karne ji jurrat karte haiN . Karachi ke aek ilaaqe ke
poultry farm meiN Turkeys breed ki jaati theiN:-)

Cheers!

Abida Sultana

Zafar

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Dec 11, 2001, 12:55:05 PM12/11/01
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Abida sahiba:

I have an English-Urdu dictionary, which under the entry "Turkey"
reads:

1. feel murGh (feel = elephant)
2. murGh e fir'on: aik qism ka baRa murGh jo duniya ke har hisse meN
payaa jaataa hai; is ke sar par baal naheeN hote, lekin paroN kaa rang
surKh, zard aur kathayee hataa hai. is kaa gosht Ghaza ke taur par
khaayaa jaataa hai.

Hope it helps,

Zafar

abida123

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Dec 11, 2001, 6:15:11 PM12/11/01
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Shukriya Zafar Sahib,

It sure helped but not without raising a few more questions !!

is turkey ke bahaane aaj ye bhi pataa chalaa ke feel=elephant. So what's
wrong with haathi =elephant:-? LOL!!

Anyway what does this "fir'on" in "murGh e fir'on" refer to :-?

Cheers!

Abida

Raj Kumar

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Dec 11, 2001, 8:00:01 PM12/11/01
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z_...@yahoo.com (Zafar) wrote in message news:<f970256b.01121...@posting.google.com>...

Zafar Saahib:

Thanks for providing a definitive answer to Abida Saahiba's query. I
have reconfirmed from a highly reliable source that "feel-murGh" is
indeed the correct Persian term for the bird commonly known as
"turkey". It comes under the same category as "shutur-murGh", the
Persian term for an "ostrich"!!

The other term you have given here makes a lot of sense too ---
considering the insolence and the audaciousness of the Pharaohs. This
term, I would say, is more Arabic than Persian and makes a direct
connection with Egypt, just as the original Anglic word made with
Turkey! Now, read this:

You wouldn't believe it, but the Hindi word for turkey is "peru" ---
also pronounced as "peeru". According to my source that prefers to
remain anonymous
--- you know what kind of a world we are living in --- this term comes
from the Portuguese. The reason could be that the Portuguese and the
Spaniards presumably encountered this bird in Peru, South America,
just as the other Westerners presumably encountered it in Turkey,
Eurasia!

I wonder how Abida Saahiba feels about all this, but I can clearly see
that this thread provides her a lot more food for thought than a plate
full of
"feel-murGh" would provide for her stomach! LOL LOL LOL

In any case, thanks to you, Zafar Saahib, for providing the term that
I'll be using in my conversation from now on! Next time, when my
daughter invites me for the conventional "turkey dinner" at
Thanksgiving, I'll be telling everyone who cares to listen that I am
going to a "da'vat-e-feel murGh"!

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

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abida123

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Dec 11, 2001, 8:59:07 PM12/11/01
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Raj Kumar wrote:

> I wonder how Abida Saahiba feels about all this, but I can clearly see
> that this thread provides her a lot more food for thought than a plate
> full of "feel-murGh" would provide for her stomach! LOL LOL LOL
>

> Aadaab Raj Sahib,

How do I feel about all this? Well to tell you the truth this is more turkey knowledge than I can
"digest" right now!! LOL!!

I am sure glad I asked and ALUPers were as usual ever so generous with their help; or I would have
believed for sure turkey=bulbul or something !That's as close as I could get to an Urdu bird! LOL!.

ab bulbul ka zik'r hua to lage haathoN aap ye bhi clarify kar deejyiye if "bulbul" and "maina" are one
and the same ?

Raj Sahib aap to bahut dur ki yaani next Thanksgiving ke feel-murGh ki daawat ka soch rahe haiN. ham
to jald hi aane wali taqreebaat meiN "da'vat-e-feel murGh/murGh e fir'on/ban_murGHii/janglee murGhee"
ki fik'r mein ye maaloomaat jaan~na chaahate the .

Raj Sahib I must tell you once again I really enjoy your "halki phulki" full of humour postings :-)

Dua hai aap ka ye pleasant sense of humour hamesha barqaraar rahe :-)

Cheers!

Abida Sultana

Zafar

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Dec 12, 2001, 12:05:32 AM12/12/01
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> is turkey ke bahaane aaj ye bhi pataa chalaa ke feel=elephant. So what's
> wrong with haathi =elephant:-?

What's wrong with hathee? Well, it recieves six sets of molars, which
emerge in succession -- about ten years apart. When haathee reaches
the age of 70, the last set is also gone through extensive wear and
tear. So the poor haathee is left with small, useless, stumps instead
of teath and starves to death. :(

>
> Anyway what does this "fir'on" in "murGh e fir'on" refer to :-?

Fir'on (in English, Pharoah) was a dynasty of kings in ancient Egypt.
They are the ones who bulit those pyramids.

Hope it helps :)


Zafar

abida123

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Dec 12, 2001, 1:12:16 AM12/12/01
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Shukriya Zafar Sahib,

This turkey thread is getting really interesting for me at least!!LOL!!

All I meant was if 'feel' is another name for "haathee",,,,,,,why not call a
haathee a plain old hathee ?

And thanks for your clarification of Pharoah. But just curious why the poor
turkey has reference to the Pharoahs :-?

Cheers!

Abida Sultana

T. S. Kalsi

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Dec 12, 2001, 11:12:58 AM12/12/01
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Just one more curious detail in this very interesting discussuion:

The Arabic term for 'turkey' is 'dajaaj hindi* = Indian fowl !!!

Regards,
Tejjit Singh Kalsi

Khursheed Ahmed

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Dec 13, 2001, 12:10:18 AM12/13/01
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As long as we are talking turkey, let me add my 2 cents worth. I heard
that in Turkey, the turkey bird is called The American Bird!

My English-Urdu dictionary also describes turkey as "Feel Murguh", which
probably comes from "a very large murGha".

Abida Saheba, agar aap vegetarian hoteeN to turkey ki jaan bhi bachti
aur aap ka haazma bhi durust rehta :-))

Khursheed

Zoya

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Dec 13, 2001, 9:19:32 AM12/13/01
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>
> Raj Sahib I must tell you once again I really enjoy your "halki phulki" full of humour postings :-)
>
> Dua hai aap ka ye pleasant sense of humour hamesha barqaraar rahe :-)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Abida Sultana


Hello Abida,

I just wanted to second what you have written here.

Raj Sahib,

aap kuchh dino.N ke liye bhii Gairhaazir ho jaaye.N to Alup soonaa
soonaa saa lagne lagtaa hai. to Javed AKhtar ke alfaaz mei.N:

"aap bhii aaiiey, ham ko bhii bulaate rahiye !"

Looking forward to your posts,

___________Zoya.

Raj Kumar

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Dec 14, 2001, 6:55:44 PM12/14/01
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zoy...@my-deja.com (Zoya) wrote in message news:<7659d06c.01121...@posting.google.com>...

Abida ji aur Zoya ji:

yaad-aavari ke liye bahut bahut shukriya.

maiN, kuchh zaati majbooriyoN ke kaaran, aaj kal ALUP par ziyaada likh
naheeN paa rahaa magar aaj aap dono 'azeeziyoN' ka 'prem-poorvak
saNdesh' paRh kar mujhe haazir-e-Khidmat hona hi paRaa. aap dono ne
Khwaahish zaahir ki hai ke maiN bhi ALUP par kuchh na kuchh 'post'
karta rahooN --- to arz hai ke jab se mujhe ALUP ki paidaa'ish aur is
ke yaum-e-paidaa'ish ki soochna mili hai (thanks to azeez-e-man
Ravindra Saahib!), tabhi se soch rahaa tha ke maiN apne puraane
"naGhma-e-ALUP" ko 'up-date' kar ke ALUP ki agli saal-girah par pesh
karooN. ab, aap dono ki 'be-sabri' --- aur 'triya-haT' [:-))] --- ko
madd-e-nazar rakhte huye, maiN ne us naGHme ko abhi se 'up-date' kar
diya hai aur jald hi use yahaaN par 'post' kar dooN ga. agarche voh
naGhma sabhi ALUPers ke liye hai, magar sanad rahe ke ise 'up-date'
karne ka ilqaa (= inspiration) aap hi ki jaanib se hua hai!

achchha, to ab ijaazat deejiye --- but, if at all possible, please
stay tuned! :-))

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar

abida123

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Dec 19, 2001, 6:36:26 PM12/19/01
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Dear ALUPers,

For whatever reason I had problems accessing new messages on ALUP since Dec 12/2001.

Did anyone else have the same problem? Just wondering.

Cheers!

Abida Sultana

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Aug 17, 2013, 7:58:35 PM8/17/13
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Kitny puranay log ho yar ap.. :D Maine aj Turkey ki Urdu Translation Search ki, to mjhe ap lOgo ka thread parh k koi hasi ai, Kitni Pur musaraat aur shaista andaaz-e-guftugu ka istemaal kerty hain ap lOg Awesome! This Really worth some award! Awsome Thread, Sarwar , Abida, Raj, And all who have posted over here!

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Nov 27, 2014, 5:03:13 PM11/27/14
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Abida G, Aslam ,Raj, Zafar, Kalsi, Ahmad..

To day after thirteen yrs.I got same query in mind wanted to know it...in Urdu surprised to see so pure Urdu, wondered..Thanks allot.

Ashuftasar

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Nov 27, 2014, 11:58:52 PM11/27/14
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KHOOBSOORAT THANKS TO ALL

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Nov 29, 2014, 2:06:13 PM11/29/14
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Feel Murgh

zeesha...@gmail.com

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Nov 10, 2015, 4:51:27 AM11/10/15
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turkey parinda :P

Asad

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Nov 10, 2015, 5:54:41 AM11/10/15
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Platts ki lughat main desi lafz 'peruu' ya 'piiruu' bhi darj hai. iske elawa 'feel murgh' aur 'peel murgh' to hain hi.

http://dsalsrv02.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/getobject.pl?c.2:1:2562.platts

shayad ye bhi wahi turkey hi ho

aur aapki waja se ham bhi ek lafz seekh gaye.

Asad

mirza badil nairang

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Nov 10, 2015, 10:55:48 AM11/10/15
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Murgh e shukraana(h). Qurbani ka murgh aur bhint chaRha murgh bhi chaplain gay. Ik dictionary main Turkii bhi dekha hai. Do mulkoN Kay naam per yeh murgh ab zuban zad e 'am main ab turkey hi hai.

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Aug 7, 2016, 7:59:15 AM8/7/16
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Its Called Feel Murg ( Feel Means Elephant in persian)

as...@canadaprimemarketing.com

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Oct 10, 2016, 3:59:56 AM10/10/16
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its called "bheenj" in urdu. they used be available in karachi long time ago when more fereigners use to visit.

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Nov 24, 2016, 8:02:21 AM11/24/16
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@aslam shabaa are you fucking high😄

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@abida123 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_for_turkeys

kishoo...@hotmail.co.uk

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On Monday, December 10, 2001 at 7:58:08 AM UTC+5, abida123 wrote:
> Just curious what the bird Turkey is called in Urdu??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Abida

chiken

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mandag 10. desember 2001 03.58.08 UTC+1 skrev abida123 følgende:
> Just curious what the bird Turkey is called in Urdu??
>
> Thanks!
>
> Abida

Murghabi

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Naseer

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janaab-i-vaalaa, Turkey ne kab se paanii meN baseraa kar rakhaa hai? ham ne to ise hameshah se zamiinii maxluuq hii samjhaa hai. aabii maaHaul meN buud-o-baash karte kabhii nahiiN dekhaa!

xair-andesh,

Naseer

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Apr 28, 2020, 7:16:42 AM4/28/20
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Murghabi is duck in Farsi. Filmurgh is turkey, for obvious reasons.

Regards

AK

Afzal A. Khan

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Apr 28, 2020, 11:44:05 PM4/28/20
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There have been a few replies to this query.

AFAIK. the bird known as Turkey is native to North America.
It is a fairly large bird. And a great many hunters each year
spend a lot of money and time in trying to hunt these rather
elusive birds.

I don't think the bird is found in other countries in Europe
or in the sub-continent. So there is little point in trying
to find an Urdu equivalent for the bird's name.

"MurGHaabi", I think is a different bird. It can be deemed to
be related to "goose". I believe it is smaller in size, as
compared to a goose. The name itself suggests a "water~
bird" --- MurGH (bird) and Aab (water). In India, one
could find a great many of these birds in lakes.

There is another 'bird known as "kiwi" which is found only in
New Zealand. There is no point in trying to find Urdu
equivalent names in such cases.

Lastly, how is this query related to Urdu Poetry ?



Afzal


delta...@gmail.com

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Apr 29, 2020, 12:52:46 AM4/29/20
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Hi Afzal,

See my last post.

> Afzal

Afzal A. Khan

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Apr 29, 2020, 7:56:53 PM4/29/20
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Janglee MurGHi -- Jungle Fowl.

I have seen them in India when out for a hunt (of course, in
the days of yore). And that was many decades ago. Now there
is a complete ban of hunting.

There was a reference to "Cheeni MurGHi". These used to be
pets in some houses (again back in India). These had blue
spots on them. In English, these were known as "Guinea
Fowl".



Afzal
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