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Raj Kumar Pathria

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May 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/13/99
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khwaateen-o-hazraat:

pichhle do-chaar dinon mein Ali Minai Sahib aur Jamil Sahib ne is baare
mein apni apni raaye ka izhaar kiya hai ke hamen aek doosre ko kaise
khitaab karna chaahiye. Sahib/Sahiba keh kar ya faqat 'pehle naamon' ke
iste'maal se? in dono tareeqon ke kuchh faa'ide bhi hain aur kuchh
nuqsaan bhi. aek tareeqa zaraa 'formal' sa hai, magar mukhlisaana
guft-o-shuneed ka haamil zaroor hai. doosra tareeqa 'informal' hai, jise
dostaana bhi kahaa ja sakta hai, magar us mein aek-doosre ki waza'daari
aur aek-doosre ke lihaaz ki kam gunjaa'ish hai. in sab baaton ko
madd-e-nazar rakhte huye main ne to aaj tak yihi munaasib samjha hai ke
har post mein doosron ke liye Sahib/Sahiba ke alqaab ka iste'maal kiya
jaaye. yahaan tak ke main ne Nita ji ko bhi kabhi Nita naheen kahaa
[haalaanke kayee log unhen sirf Nita kehte hain kiyoonke unhen 'Nita
Sahiba' kuchh theek naheen lagta].

haaliya baihs parhne ke ba'ad main ne socha ke kiyoon na main bhi is
mu'aamile mein apni raaye pesh kar daaloon. to, huzoor, meri raaye to
yihi hai ke 'formal' alqaab ki rivaayat ko bar-qaraar rakhkha jaaye.
meri yeh raaye aur bhi mohkam ho gayee jab main ne kuchh posts
"cricketer ki du'aa" ke taiht parheen. in posts mein, be-takallufi
kaheen kaheen be-hoodagi ki had tak ja pahunchi hai. mere khayaal mein,
agar hamaare yeh dost aek doosre ko Sahib ya Sahiba keh kar khitaab
karte aur apni tehreer ko wuhi rang dete jo in alqaab ke saath jachta
hai to ghaaliban woh auroton/larhkiyon/mastooraat ko 'chhokariyaan' na
kehte.

khair-andesh, Raj Kumar


A Cassam

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May 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/13/99
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Very well said!!!!

nawat...@my-dejanews.com

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May 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/14/99
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Dear ALUPers,

Referring to each other as saahab/saahibaa does impart a certain
restraining influence on the language that one uses when disagreeing
with someone else's point of view. Besides it goes well with the
language and the topic of our discussions. However, I wish to add a few
lines to what Rajkumar saahab has already expressed. Please bear in
mind that this is my personal opinion and you may or may not agree,
that is your prerogative.

First, there is the question of age. I have met Rajkumar saahab
personally but out of respect for his age, I doubt that I can ever call
him by his first name. No offense Rajkumar saahab :-) When one doesn't
know the age of the person one is referring to, it is always good to
use the more formal method of addressing.

Having said that, I think I can take the liberty of addressing people
who are my age, and whom I have met personally, by their first name -
unless they express their wish to be called as saahab/saahibaa. I am
sure Sana would agree. :-) Kashif?

As for myself, I don't dislike being called Nita saahiba. I would
prefer to be called just Nita :-)

pukaaro mujhe naam lekar pukaaro
mujhe tum se apanii Khabar mil rahii hai

:-)

Nita
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Khursheed Ahmed

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May 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/16/99
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On Fri, 14 May 1999 nawat...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> As for myself, I don't dislike being called Nita saahiba. I would
> prefer to be called just Nita :-)
>
> pukaaro mujhe naam lekar pukaaro
> mujhe tum se apanii Khabar mil rahii hai

Wah, wah, Nita - kis khoobsoorti se aap ne is pecheeda maslay ka hal
nikaala hai. Hamaari ALUP ki mehfil waaq'aee ek bohat mohazzib mehfil hai
jis maiN log ek doosray ka lihaaz rakhte haiN aur ba-adab, ba-mulaaheza ek
doosray ko khitaab kartay haiN. Yehi Urdu tehzeeb ki khusoosiyat hai jis
ko hum log watan se itni door reh ker tarastay haiN.

Khursheed

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