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Naseer

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Oct 10, 2019, 7:47:07 AM10/10/19
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Dear friends,

This thread has been continued from the thread "Past and Present Participants of ALUP" whose link is given below.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.language.urdu.poetry/ogW2laicQGM%5B26-50%5D

This Newsgroup was set by Syed Zafar Kazmi SaaHib on 05/05/1994. I hope he still has a peep into the group now and again and feels proud that it was he who has brought pleasure to so many people's lives.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/rec.music.indian.misc/dupobJAv758/AvLCxpjsILoJ

Fri, 6 May 94 11:37:18 GMT+5:00

In the post above Syed Zafar Kazmi states, “Yesterday, I finally gave up on the idea of finding time to go for an urdu poetry group in "rec.arts" hierarchy and created "alt.language.urdu.poetry".

In its early days Ali Minai, Khursheed Ahmed, UVR, Yogesh Sethi, Rajiv Chakravarti, Padmanabhan Srinagesh, Mirza Fuzuli SaaHibaan and Nita Awatramani, Naheed Rana, Abida Sultana and Ayesha SaaHibaat worked hard to keep the group's wheels turning. So they and other friends with them should not be forgotten.

Raj Kumar "Qais" SaaHib has been kind enough to update and suitably amend the "NaGhma-e-ALUP" for which I would like to pay him a special tribute on behalf of all visible and invisible ALUP participating friends. I am indebited to him to add two names that did not appear in the original NaGhmah. They are Afzal Khan SaaHib and Jamil Ahmad SaaHib, who along with UVR, Raj Kumar Qais, Irfan Abid, Sarwar Alam Raz, Zafar Syed, Vijay Kumar, Anil Kala SaaHibaan, Zoya SaaHibah and many others, have contributed to this Newsgroup actively in a very positive and constructive way for the sake of Urdu language and its poetry. If I have missed any names, it has not been diliberate and I offer my apologies in advance. I can do no better than to allow RK Qais SaaHib to introduce this song himself.

***janaab Naseer saaHib:

"naGhma-e-ALUP" ki na'ii shakl pesh-e-Khidmat hai. ise pesh karne meN achchhi-Khaassi taaKheer ho ga'ii, jis ki ka'ii vajuuhaat theeN --- ab ginvaauuN to kis kis ko?

janaab-e-man, maiN ne Afzal sahib aur Zuhra sahiba ko to pahle hi is taraane meN shaamil kar liyaa thaa. ab aap ki farmaa'ish par Jamil sahib ko --- aur Khud apni farmaa'ish par azeez-e-man Shoaib sahib ko --- bhi yeh eizaaz baKhsh diyaa hai! :)

is zimn meN, aek vazaahat laazim hai --- voh yeh k maiN ne azeez-e-man ST vaale she'r meN aek aisa qaafiya bartaa hai, jo is taraane meN mutavaqq'e nahiiN thaa. ba-har-Haal, meri jasaarat ki vajah yeh k aaN-Hazrat ki fikr-e-suKhan par Jaun Ailiya ba-daraja-atam Haavii haiN. nateejatan, in ki shaa'irii meN kuchh aisi Khaasiyat maujuud hai jis ka aa'iina-daar she'r hazaa ka duusra misr'a hai. agar kaheeN kaheeN kuchh gul-fishaani si hai to shaayad meri vajah se hai, jise maiN ne us she'r ke pahle misr'e meN bayaan kiyaa hai. I hope ST agrees with my insane observations :)

aham baat, Naseer sahib, yeh hai k maiN ne is taraane ke 23 ash'aar ko aek na'ii tarteeeb dii hai. is amal ki ko'ii Khaas binaa nahiiN --- bas yeh k aaKhirii chaar ash'aar ko aaKhir hi meN rakhnaa maqsuud thaa!

Khair-aNdesh, Raj Kumar***

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NAGHMA-E-ALUP (the 2019 version)

1.
ba-zaahir maHfil-e-she'r-o-suKhan hai
Haqeeqat meN ALUP apnaa 'vatan' hai

2.
haiN is ke paasbaaN Khursheed saaHib
KhizaaoN se mubarraa yeh chaman hai

3.
yahaaN ko’ii naheeN Aarif MuHammad
na ko'ii Raam Singh na Raam Dhan hai

4.
yahaaN ma'aduum hai 'jinsii tafaavut'
yahaaN naGhma-saraa har mard-o-zan hai!

5.
yahaaN par 'muskuraati' hai Tabassum
yaheeN par Aabida bhi Khanda-zan hai

6.
chhalakte haiN yahaaN saaGhar Sanaa ke
yaheeN par Aa’isha mast-e-suKhan hai

7.
yaheeN Zoya ki Khush-ilHaaniyaaN haiN
yaheeN Naaheed si sheereeN-dahan hai

8.
yaheeN Neeta ne ki mo'jiz-nigaarii
Khudaa rakkhe, adab se kyaa lagan hai!

9.
yaheeN Zuhra ki phailii haiN ziyaa'eN
agarche us ka ghar 'neelay gagan' hai

10.
yaheeN Sarwar ki gul-afshaaniyaaN haiN
yaheeN Jugnoo ki 'mehtaabi kiran' hai

11.
yaheeN par hai Zafar ki seHr-kaari
yaheeN Irfaan saa jaaduu-figan hai

12.
yaheeN khiltaa hai U V R ka fann
yaheeN Raajeev ko qasd-e-suKhan hai

13.
yaheeN par hai Anil Kaalaa daraKhshaaN
yaheeN daryaa-e-BG mauj-zan hai

14.
yaheeN par hai “Naseer-e-jumla-ausaaf”
zabaaN-daanii meN jo ustaad-e-fan hai

15.
yaheeN Afzal ki dekhii Khush-Kharaamii
jo yak-dam suurat-e-sarv-o-saman hai

16.
yaheeN par hai Jamiil-e-nukta-aaraa
jo baHr-e-juzv-o-kul meN Ghota-zan hai

17.
yaheeN miltaa hai Balvindar sa ‘aalim
jise taHqeeq se gahrii lagan hai

18.
yaheeN par haiN Vijay saaHib ki aaraa
k jin se ruu-e-maHfil ki phaban hai

19.
yaheeN Tanveer ki gul-kaariyaaN haiN
zaraa sii jin meN kaaNToN ki chubhan hai

20.
yaheeN par haiN ‘anaadil ke taraane
yaheeN haNgaama-e-zaaGh-o-zaGhan hai

21.
yahii aihl-e-zabaaN kaa hai ‘akhaaRaa’
yahii PaNjaabiiyoN ki ‘aNjuman’ hai

22.
yaheeN Ghaalib ki nukta-saNjiyaaN haiN
yaheeN Iqbaal ka vird-e-suKhan hai

23.
yaheeN par tazkire 'fahm-o-zakaa' ke
yaheeN par Qais ka ‘deevaana-pan’ hai!

Raj Kumar 'Qais' [October 03, 2019]

................................................................................

Syed Naveed Razvi 23/05/1994
Ali Minai 05/09/1994

Khursheed Ahmed 04/01/1996
U V Ravindra 29/05/1996
Vijay S. Bajwa 28/08/1996

Yogesh Sethi 09/06/1997
Saleem. A. Khanani 04/09/1997
Nita Awatramani 07/09/1997
Philip Nikolayev 10/09/1997
Kamraan Sahib 01/10/1997
Kashif Sahib 01/11/1997
Ashok Dhareshwar 05/12/1997
Rajiv Chakravarti 16/12/1997

Padmanabhan Srinagesh 01/01/1998
Steve Almas 24/02/1998
Umang Bali 04/02/1998
Hari and Manju Khanna 05/02/1998
B &Tejjit Singh Kalsi 17/02/1998
Vinay P. Jain 01/05/1998
B Sana. Ali (14/06/1998)
Raj Kumar Pathria (Qais) 18/06/1998
Raza A. Mir 02/07/1998
Afzal A. Khan 03/07/1998
Mirza Fuzuli 05/09/1998
Jamil Ahmad 26/09/1998
Naheed Rana 21/10/1998
Shyam Bhatia 11/11/1998

Vijay Kumar 05/02/1999
A Cassam (Abida Sultana) 13/05/1999
Tabassum Hejazi 14/06/1999
Shoaib Tanvir 04/11/1999
Srinivas Ganti 08/12/1999
Vivek Sahib 17/12/1999
Amit Malhotra 21/12/1999

Ayesha Sahiba Feb 2000
Hashmat Sahib /Aslam Sahbaa Feb 2000
Anil K Sharma/ Enil Caulla / Kali Hawa / Black Wind / Marut Shyam / Anil Kala / Baad-e-Siyaah/ C. Naseem /Mukhtalif Garhwali Nov 2000
Zoya Sahiba Dec 2000

Vasmi Abidi July 2001
Irfan Abid July 2001
Syed Zafar Oct 2001
Sarwar Alam Raz Oct 2001

Sushil Sharma Aug 2002
Yashowanto N. Ghosh Sept 2002

Nagesh Sahib Sept 2004
Mohib Sahib Sept 2004
Amjad Sahib Nov 2004
Shyam Sahib Dec 2004

Prem Joshi Feb 2006
v (Ravi Sahib) Feb 2006
Naseer Qureshi March 2006
Zia Baloch April 2006
Asa’d Sahib June 2006
Mohit Mishra Aug 2006

Piyush Sahib June 2007
Asad ur Rahman Kidwai Oct 2007
BGM Sahib Nov 2007

Deedawar Sahiba (Farah) Aug 2008

Zuhra Sahiba May 2009

bekas Murray (Atif) Sept 2010

Balvinder Singh June 2013

................................................................................

I have also made a list of some of the ALUP poets with their taxallus.

U.V. Ravindra / UVR / Faazil Fazal (Khursheed)
Shoaib Tanvir (Shoaib)
Kamraan Sahib (Taalib)
Rajiv Chakravarti (NaadaaN)
Raj Kumar Pathria (Qais)
Aslam Sahbaa (Sahbaa)
Irfan Abid (Abid)
Zafar Syed (?)
Sarwar Alam Raz (Sarwar)
Anil Kala (Mukhtalif)
Amit Malhotra (Tanhaa)
Zoya Sahiba (Zoya)
bekas Murray (?)

I would request our friends to add whatever information is lacking in these two lists and correct any errors, factual or otherwise.

Naseer

Naseer

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Dec 29, 2019, 6:50:37 AM12/29/19
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On Thursday, 10 October 2019 12:47:07 UTC+1, Naseer wrote:
> Dear friends,
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> I would request our friends to add whatever information is lacking in these two lists and correct any errors, factual or otherwise.
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> Naseer

One thing that I can add and that is new to me is that Mohit Mishra SaaHib is a film maker too, as well as being a lover of Urdu poetry!

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Naseer

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I should have added PK Swami SaaHib to this list too and for this omission, I apologise.
PK Swami Jan 2002
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Naseer

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May 10, 2020, 11:45:16 AM5/10/20
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I discovered today that Yogesh Sethi SaaHib (Zaahid Dehlvi) had posted "taraana-e-aluup" in 2000. I don't know if this came before or after Raj Kumar SaaHib's "naGhma-e-ALUP".

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.language.urdu.poetry/Script%7Csort:date/alt.language.urdu.poetry/M272SVQgrTw/lnmd4Tn6CGUJ

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I have found Raj Kumar SaaHib's original "naGhma-e-ALUP" that was posted on 12/03/2000 which predates Yogesh SaaHib's "taraana-e-aluup" posted on 24/06/2000. However, Raj Kumar SaaHib's naGhma appears to be a follow up to "ALUP per aik Ghazal" by Syed Ghazi Akailvi on 06/03/2000. Both of these are are located in this thread.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.language.urdu.poetry/ALUP$20FAQ$20Khursheed$20Ahmed%7Csort:date/alt.language.urdu.poetry/K8IqqWEsAOI/9i3jOf_X9gAJ (ALUP per aik Ghazal)

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dostaan-i-giraamii,

As "ghar aayaa hamaaraa pardesii", that is to say Dinesh Shenoy SaaHib has returned to ALUP after such a long "banbaas", I would like to take this opportunity and add him to the list of "luminaries" who have made "ALUP-nagar" their home! I believe Dinesh SaaHib came to this nagrii around 1999. Perhaps he would be kind enough to make a response in this thread and then I shall make a correction, if necessary.

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.language.urdu.poetry/c/RSWxzSHPpsk (My Very First ALUP Post)

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Afzal A. Khan

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Apr 30, 2021, 12:21:42 PM4/30/21
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Mukarramee,

As you know, I cannot access old threads on my browser.

However, I think you had (previously) posted a more or
less complete list of all participants in our Newsgroup,
including a great many who no longer grace our NG.


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Is munaasibat se maiN aap ki KHidmat-e-'aali men ek
filmi gaane ka Havaala dene ki jur'at kar raha hooN.


****************

In 1968, a film was released in India. Its title was
"Saathi". It starred Vyjayanthimala and Rajendra Kumar.
Music was provided by Naestro Naushad Ali Saheb.

Arguably, it was the last movie for which Naushad had
composed the music. To be sure, there was a further
movie later on, starring Govinda, but its songs were
a sort of re-hash of his original songs that had figured
in his previous movies.


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"Saathi" had a song based on the classical raag Bhairavi :

MaiN to pyaar se tere piya maaNg sajaauNgi
Tere aNg'na yeh saari 'umariya bitaauNgi


****************

But the film had another song which wold seem quite appropriate
for our purpose --- that is, about those ALUPers who have since
bid "al'vida'" to our NG. :


Jo chala gaya, use bhool ja
Woh na sun sakega tiri sada

Yeh Hayaat to maut ki hai Dagar
Koi KHaak men, koi KHaak par

Yehi jaan le, woh koi na tha
Woh GHubaar tha, tira hum'safar

Use door le ke gayee hawa
Use bhool ja, use bhool ja


Koi iltija, koi baNdagi
Na qaza se haath chhuRa saki

Kiye aad'mi ne baRe jatan
Magar us ke kaam na aa saki

Na koi du'aa, na koi dawa
Jo chala gaya use bhool ja

Hai mujhe bhi GHam kisi yaar ka
Ke looTa nagar mire pyaar ka

Huwa dar~ba'dar maiN to is qadar
Na KHizaaN ka hooN na bahaar ka

Mujhe dekh le mujhe kya mila
Jo chala gaya use bhool ja

Use bhool ja, use bhool ja



Lyrics were penned by MajrooH Sultanpuri.



****************



Afzal





Naseer

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Apr 30, 2021, 5:42:53 PM4/30/21
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Afzal SaaHib,

ham bhuul sake haiN nah tujhe bhuul sakeN ge
tuu yaad rahe gaa hameN, haaN yaad rahe gaa

Ibn-i-Insha

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